From scc at lplouisiana.org Mon Jan 28 16:32:46 2013 From: scc at lplouisiana.org (Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:32:46 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] New mailing list Message-ID: I thought I had sent out a "welcome message" to everyone when the list was setup. But just in case you did not get it, the Board of Directors now has a mailing list to use for our internal communication. This will save us the hassle of having to type each person's name or address in for every email. Simply send an email to scc at lplouisiana.org and everyone on the Board will get the message. Send your replies there and everyone will get that as well. (usually a simple "reply" button will do the job, but if you see a "reply-list" button, use that one) Note, non-members cannot add themselves, and will not be added by me. They also cannot post, or read any of our communications. (unless someone forwards it to them) If you want to include the Executive Director in a discussion, you'll have to add her address separately, though I remind everyone, any directions or requests for her to take action should always go through the chair per our contract with her. If anyone has any questions about using this system, please let me know. But it really is as simple as sending a message to one email address, the list address, rather than 9 or 10 different individual addresses. Replying is also just as easy and will always include everyone on the list. Unless you have reason to do so otherwise, all Board communications should go through this list to make sure everyone is on the same page with all issues. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: chairman.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 304 bytes Desc: not available URL: From scc at lplouisiana.org Mon Jan 28 16:38:32 2013 From: scc at lplouisiana.org (Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:38:32 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Ad Proof and Cost In-Reply-To: <5106FA7D.3010603@lplouisiana.org> References: <4e3e36f4-83f2-49d6-86b3-97033edae5a1@exch-clacc-01.timespicayune.com> <5106FA7D.3010603@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: Wow. They don't have a free community calendar we can post in? Usually most newspapers allow posting of community events each week, and they even have an online system for submitting the posting. I think as well, the online calendars stay up all the time. She probably can't reduce the cost if it is in legal notices. But I can't see why we can't post it in the community calendar. I don't think we can start spending those kinds of funds on this purpose at this time, especially if we aren't required to by law. In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 1/28/13 4:23 PM, Wendy Adams wrote: > Hi Susan, > > Thank you. I have submitted your proof and cost to the board. It seems I > was mistaken that this was our legal obligation. > > The Democrats and Republicans are required by state law to put notification > 30 days prior in the local newspaper, but because of the small size of our > party (under 5% of voter population) we are not obligated by law. However, > we would like to give 30 days notice as a public service. > > Would you consider reducing the cost of the ad to that of a public service > announcement of a non-profit organization? > > Thank you, > > Wendy > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Ad Proof and Cost > Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 14:48:05 -0600 > From: Landry, Susan > Reply-To: Landry, Susan > To: > > > > Wendy, > > Attached is your ad proof and cost to publish one time January 30. > Prepayment is required. We accept Visa, MasterCard, American Express > and Discover. The deadline for payment is Tuesday, January 29 by 11:00 > a.m. > > Thanks! > > Susan Landry > Nola Media Group > Nola.com / The Times-Picayune > legals at nola.com > (504) 826-3510 > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: chairman.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 304 bytes Desc: not available URL: From scc at lplouisiana.org Tue Jan 29 12:12:10 2013 From: scc at lplouisiana.org (Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:12:10 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Online Accounts linked to LouisianaLibertarian.net email boxes Message-ID: To all, If anyone had previously set up any online accounts and used their louisianalibertarian.net email address, NOW is the time to update those accounts to reflect the switch to your lplouisiana.org mailbox. The old addresses are set to expire on February 12th. They are already not accessible, but the chairman's box serves as a "catchall" and will receive any account change requests that some automated systems will generate. I will confirm these as necessary, or forward them to you to handle. Social networking website accounts should be directed to now use and turn the passwords over to Communications Officer Keith Thompson as he is now in charge of maintaining them. This would include, but is not limited to: Facebook, Meetup, Twitter, Google+, YahooGroups (maybe now part of Google), MySpace, Upcoming, Linked In, etc. Note, if you set something up for yourself, I'm not asking you to turn that over, only if you set it up for the LPL. As well, any financial related accounts should be set up for . 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I'll get the ball rolling with this then: Motion - That the chairman is authorized to negotiate and offer a contract for fundraising with Vinson Mouser for the remainder of 2013. Please submit your votes, and or discussion as soon as possible so we can get moving on this. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: chairman.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 283 bytes Desc: not available URL: From scc at lplouisiana.org Tue Jan 29 17:00:13 2013 From: scc at lplouisiana.org (Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 17:00:13 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - Fundraiser position In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: What would a contract look like? I already do fund-raising letters and some calls myself, so what would he be doing that myself and Wendy aren't already doing? > To all, > > We had discussed at our October meeting the possibility of taking on > Vinson > Mouser(former Chairman for the new folks), or someone else, as LPL > fundraiser. > > My apologies for not including it in January's agenda. > > Considering the new contract we've offered Wendy, and the funding goals > set by > the SPC, we will need some major effort to bring money into the party. > > I suggest we take up the issue ASAP. > > I'll get the ball rolling with this then: > > Motion - > > That the chairman is authorized to negotiate and offer a contract for > fundraising with Vinson Mouser for the remainder of 2013. > > > Please submit your votes, and or discussion as soon as possible so we can > get > moving on this. > > > > -- > In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > From scc at lplouisiana.org Tue Jan 29 12:31:05 2013 From: scc at lplouisiana.org (Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:31:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - Fundraiser position In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I second the motion and you can count my vote in advance as being in favor.? --- On Tue, 1/29/13, Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors wrote: From: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - Fundraiser position To: scc at lplouisiana.org Date: Tuesday, January 29, 2013, 12:17 PM To all, We had discussed at our October meeting the possibility of taking on Vinson Mouser(former Chairman for the new folks), or someone else, as LPL fundraiser. My apologies for not including it in January's agenda. Considering the new contract we've offered Wendy, and the funding goals set by the SPC, we will need some major effort to bring money into the party. I suggest we take up the issue ASAP. I'll get the ball rolling with this then: Motion - That the chairman is authorized to negotiate and offer a contract for fundraising with Vinson Mouser for the remainder of 2013. Please submit your votes, and or discussion as soon as possible so we can get moving on this. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From media at lplouisiana.org Tue Jan 29 20:46:31 2013 From: media at lplouisiana.org (media at lplouisiana.org) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 20:46:31 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - Fundraiser position In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1132d74206cc285c49b83e58c0d9f99e@lplouisiana.org> We can certainly use help in the fundraising department. This sounds like a good idea, but since I wasn't a member during the October session and don't know the details of the contract, I'll abstain. - Keith On 2013-01-29 12:31, Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors wrote: > I second the motion and you can count my vote in advance as being in > favor. > > --- On TUE, 1/29/13, MAILING LIST FOR LPL BOARD OF DIRECTORS > __ wrote: > >> From: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors >> Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - Fundraiser >> position >> To: scc at lplouisiana.org >> Date: Tuesday, January 29, 2013, 12:17 PM >> >> To all, >> >> We had discussed at our October meeting the possibility of taking on >> Vinson Mouser(former Chairman for the new folks), or someone else, as >> LPL fundraiser. >> >> My apologies for not including it in January's agenda. >> >> Considering the new contract we've offered Wendy, and the funding >> goals set by the SPC, we will need some major effort to bring money >> into the party. >> >> I suggest we take up the issue ASAP. >> >> I'll get the ball rolling with this then: >> >> Motion - >> >> That the chairman is authorized to negotiate and offer a contract >> for fundraising with Vinson Mouser for the remainder of 2013. >> >> Please submit your votes, and or discussion as soon as possible so >> we can get moving on this. >> >> -- >> In Liberty, >> >> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >> >> -----Inline Attachment Follows----- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org [1] >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [2] > > > > Links: > ------ > [1] http://us.mc1816.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=SCC at lplouisiana.org > [2] http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org From elections at lplouisiana.org Tue Jan 29 20:55:53 2013 From: elections at lplouisiana.org (elections at lplouisiana.org) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 20:55:53 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - Fundraiser position In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: What exactly would he do? Boyd > To all, > > We had discussed at our October meeting the possibility of taking on > Vinson > Mouser(former Chairman for the new folks), or someone else, as LPL > fundraiser. > > My apologies for not including it in January's agenda. > > Considering the new contract we've offered Wendy, and the funding goals > set by > the SPC, we will need some major effort to bring money into the party. > > I suggest we take up the issue ASAP. > > I'll get the ball rolling with this then: > > Motion - > > That the chairman is authorized to negotiate and offer a contract for > fundraising with Vinson Mouser for the remainder of 2013. > > > Please submit your votes, and or discussion as soon as possible so we can > get > moving on this. > > > > -- > In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > From chairman at lplouisiana.org Tue Jan 29 21:22:07 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:22:07 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - Fundraiser position In-Reply-To: <1132d74206cc285c49b83e58c0d9f99e@lplouisiana.org> References: <1132d74206cc285c49b83e58c0d9f99e@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <510891DF.4060307@lplouisiana.org> There are no details yet. It's still open ended. Since that seems to be a popular questions, any feel free to suggest terms, but one of them will at least be revenue sharing as payment. This is pretty standard for fundraisers. I'll try to find some sample contracts to work from. In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 1/29/13 8:46 PM, media at lplouisiana.org wrote: > We can certainly use help in the fundraising department. > > This sounds like a good idea, but since I wasn't a member during the October > session and don't know the details of the contract, I'll abstain. > > - Keith > > On 2013-01-29 12:31, Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors wrote: >> I second the motion and you can count my vote in advance as being in favor. >> >> --- On TUE, 1/29/13, MAILING LIST FOR LPL BOARD OF DIRECTORS >> __ wrote: >> >>> From: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors >>> Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - Fundraiser position >>> To: scc at lplouisiana.org >>> Date: Tuesday, January 29, 2013, 12:17 PM >>> >>> To all, >>> >>> We had discussed at our October meeting the possibility of taking on >>> Vinson Mouser(former Chairman for the new folks), or someone else, as LPL >>> fundraiser. >>> >>> My apologies for not including it in January's agenda. >>> >>> Considering the new contract we've offered Wendy, and the funding goals >>> set by the SPC, we will need some major effort to bring money into the party. >>> >>> I suggest we take up the issue ASAP. >>> >>> I'll get the ball rolling with this then: >>> >>> Motion - >>> >>> That the chairman is authorized to negotiate and offer a contract for >>> fundraising with Vinson Mouser for the remainder of 2013. >>> >>> Please submit your votes, and or discussion as soon as possible so we can >>> get moving on this. >>> >>> -- >>> In Liberty, >>> >>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>> >>> -----Inline Attachment Follows----- >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SCC mailing list >>> SCC at lplouisiana.org [1] >>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [2] >> >> >> >> Links: >> ------ >> [1] http://us.mc1816.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=SCC at lplouisiana.org >> [2] http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 1/29/13 8:55 PM, elections at lplouisiana.org wrote: > What exactly would he do? > > Boyd > >> To all, >> >> We had discussed at our October meeting the possibility of taking on >> Vinson >> Mouser(former Chairman for the new folks), or someone else, as LPL >> fundraiser. >> >> My apologies for not including it in January's agenda. >> >> Considering the new contract we've offered Wendy, and the funding goals >> set by >> the SPC, we will need some major effort to bring money into the party. >> >> I suggest we take up the issue ASAP. >> >> I'll get the ball rolling with this then: >> >> Motion - >> >> That the chairman is authorized to negotiate and offer a contract for >> fundraising with Vinson Mouser for the remainder of 2013. >> >> >> Please submit your votes, and or discussion as soon as possible so we can >> get >> moving on this. >> >> >> >> -- >> In Liberty, >> >> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 1/29/13 5:00 PM, Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors wrote: > What would a contract look like? I already do fund-raising letters and > some calls myself, so what would he be doing that myself and Wendy aren't > already doing? > >> To all, >> >> We had discussed at our October meeting the possibility of taking on >> Vinson >> Mouser(former Chairman for the new folks), or someone else, as LPL >> fundraiser. >> >> My apologies for not including it in January's agenda. >> >> Considering the new contract we've offered Wendy, and the funding goals >> set by >> the SPC, we will need some major effort to bring money into the party. >> >> I suggest we take up the issue ASAP. >> >> I'll get the ball rolling with this then: >> >> Motion - >> >> That the chairman is authorized to negotiate and offer a contract for >> fundraising with Vinson Mouser for the remainder of 2013. >> >> >> Please submit your votes, and or discussion as soon as possible so we can >> get >> moving on this. >> >> >> >> -- >> In Liberty, >> >> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 1/29/13 12:31 PM, Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors wrote: > I second the motion and you can count my vote in advance as being in favor. > > --- On *Tue, 1/29/13, Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors > //* wrote: > > > From: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors > Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - Fundraiser > position > To: scc at lplouisiana.org > Date: Tuesday, January 29, 2013, 12:17 PM > > To all, > > We had discussed at our October meeting the possibility of taking on > Vinson Mouser(former Chairman for the new folks), or someone else, as > LPL fundraiser. > > My apologies for not including it in January's agenda. > > Considering the new contract we've offered Wendy, and the funding goals > set by the SPC, we will need some major effort to bring money into the > party. > > I suggest we take up the issue ASAP. > > I'll get the ball rolling with this then: > > Motion - > > That the chairman is authorized to negotiate and offer a contract for > fundraising with Vinson Mouser for the remainder of 2013. > > > Please submit your votes, and or discussion as soon as possible so we > can get moving on this. > > > > -- > In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Boyd > He would work as an independent contractor to solicit funding for the LPL. > > His compensation would be a percentage of the proceeds. > > All expenses would be his. > > > In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > On 1/29/13 8:55 PM, elections at lplouisiana.org wrote: >> What exactly would he do? >> >> Boyd >> >>> To all, >>> >>> We had discussed at our October meeting the possibility of taking on >>> Vinson >>> Mouser(former Chairman for the new folks), or someone else, as LPL >>> fundraiser. >>> >>> My apologies for not including it in January's agenda. >>> >>> Considering the new contract we've offered Wendy, and the funding goals >>> set by >>> the SPC, we will need some major effort to bring money into the party. >>> >>> I suggest we take up the issue ASAP. >>> >>> I'll get the ball rolling with this then: >>> >>> Motion - >>> >>> That the chairman is authorized to negotiate and offer a contract for >>> fundraising with Vinson Mouser for the remainder of 2013. >>> >>> >>> Please submit your votes, and or discussion as soon as possible so we >>> can >>> get >>> moving on this. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> In Liberty, >>> >>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SCC mailing list >>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > From chairman at lplouisiana.org Tue Jan 29 21:49:52 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:49:52 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - Fundraiser position In-Reply-To: References: <51089229.9070503@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <51089860.3010000@lplouisiana.org> Thank you Boyd. Vote received. In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 1/29/13 9:42 PM, elections at lplouisiana.org wrote: > Vote aya. > > Boyd > >> He would work as an independent contractor to solicit funding for the LPL. >> >> His compensation would be a percentage of the proceeds. >> >> All expenses would be his. >> >> >> In Liberty, >> >> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >> >> On 1/29/13 8:55 PM, elections at lplouisiana.org wrote: >>> What exactly would he do? >>> >>> Boyd >>> >>>> To all, >>>> >>>> We had discussed at our October meeting the possibility of taking on >>>> Vinson >>>> Mouser(former Chairman for the new folks), or someone else, as LPL >>>> fundraiser. >>>> >>>> My apologies for not including it in January's agenda. >>>> >>>> Considering the new contract we've offered Wendy, and the funding goals >>>> set by >>>> the SPC, we will need some major effort to bring money into the party. >>>> >>>> I suggest we take up the issue ASAP. >>>> >>>> I'll get the ball rolling with this then: >>>> >>>> Motion - >>>> >>>> That the chairman is authorized to negotiate and offer a contract for >>>> fundraising with Vinson Mouser for the remainder of 2013. >>>> >>>> >>>> Please submit your votes, and or discussion as soon as possible so we >>>> can >>>> get >>>> moving on this. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> In Liberty, >>>> >>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SCC mailing list >>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SCC mailing list >>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: chairman.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 283 bytes Desc: not available URL: From finance at lplouisiana.org Wed Jan 30 08:53:17 2013 From: finance at lplouisiana.org (Wes Benedict) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 08:53:17 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - Fundraiser position In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <510933DD.30303@lplouisiana.org> I'm not against the concept of hiring a fundraiser, but I'd like to know more about what you have in mind and how it would affect finances before voting on the issue. At our January Shreveport meeting, I believe we passed a budget with Revenue of $20,400 and Expenses of $18,600. (Please correct me if my numbers are wrong--whatever ends up in the Secretary's minutes are the official numbers.) I'd like to ask the Chairman how he foresees the budget being affected and if he thinks the Board of Directors would need to vote to amend the budget in order to implement a contract with Mr. Mouser. For example, if we foresee Mr. Mouser raising $10,000 and being paid 25%, or $2,500, then perhaps we would not need to amend the Revenue portion of the budget, but might need to add a Fundraising Expenses budget item of $2,500. If we hire a fundraiser, perhaps that would take some of the workload off of Mr. Ebarb, Ms. Adams, and the finance committee so they could work on other things. --Wes Benedict Finance Officer 512-659-8896 Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors wrote, On 1/29/2013 12:17 PM: > To all, > > We had discussed at our October meeting the possibility of taking on > Vinson Mouser(former Chairman for the new folks), or someone else, as > LPL fundraiser. > > My apologies for not including it in January's agenda. > > Considering the new contract we've offered Wendy, and the funding > goals set by the SPC, we will need some major effort to bring money > into the party. > > I suggest we take up the issue ASAP. > > I'll get the ball rolling with this then: > > Motion - > > That the chairman is authorized to negotiate and offer a contract for > fundraising with Vinson Mouser for the remainder of 2013. > > > Please submit your votes, and or discussion as soon as possible so we > can get moving on this. > > > > -- > In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chairman at lplouisiana.org Wed Jan 30 11:12:01 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 11:12:01 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - Fundraiser position In-Reply-To: <510933DD.30303@lplouisiana.org> References: <510933DD.30303@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <51095461.1080905@lplouisiana.org> Thank you Wes, Yes, the intention was to move the workload to a fundraiser and off of the Secretary/Treasurer and ED. Though we might set the Finance Chair as the person "in charge" of the fundraiser since that is more within their purview. We could however, do the same as with the ED and simply put both under the Chair's direction. Ms. Adams has indicated to me she is not very good with asking people for money. She's doing a heck of a job in nearly every other task we have her doing. She's great at coordinating and getting people involved, but asking for money is not her strong suite. Vinson is experienced doing so and has raised quite a bit in the past. As Chair, he kept the party financed on his own fundraising efforts without outside assistance, and as Campaign Manager for Lee Horne, raised several tens of thousands. Reed is of course the party Secretary and acting Treasurer. Neither is officially a fundraiser, and both positions have plenty of other duties. His non-LPL life is keeping him very busy right now, and I'd like to continue the trend of bringing new people on board and spreading duties around than to continue to shovel things one person's way. Just as we know and have seen that recruiting members and activists is itself a full time position, so is raising money. Thus I believe we should make a similar move and bring on a fundraiser. I don't think Wendy alone or even with the efforts of Mr. Ebarb continuing to pull in what they are pulling in, are going to get us to 20,400 in revenue. There would have to be a significant increase in the level of fundraising activity to do so. From what I've gathered in conversation with others, though I will have to verify, is that we would offer somewhere between 35% and 50% as compensation. I think 50% is standard fare, but I could be wrong. At 35%, we'd need Vinson to raise $31,385 or so in the year. He would be paid ? $10,985. I'm not sure he'd work for that amount unless he could pull off those numbers part time. He'd like a full-time position. My guess would be he would need 50%, which if we were to net $20,400, would mean he would raise $40,800 and keep half. Even then, I'm not sure if that is enough for him, but he would be in control of that by his efforts. If we went with 35%, he'd have to raise $75k-$90k to make it worth it to him to quite his day job. (which he is willing to do if the money is right) That should cover the main part of the terms. I'm still looking for example contracts for the ancillary stuff that goes along with the position. Yes, we would likely have to amend the budget at some point, though even if we were to hire him this week (I doubt it) I think we'd be okay till the April meeting. The budget after all, is just a model or target, it isn't a hard and fast "law" or "rule" we have to follow short of a vote to amend it. So if the money is coming in, then I don't think it matters if we are paying him some of it that wasn't set aside in the budget. He's raising it himself. The goal for this position is to free up other people to focus on their core tasks, especially the ED. Once someone is 'activated' by the ED then the fundraiser can go into action, hitting them up for money and soliciting monthly pledges, and special project donations. Certainly, she'll still have to try to get people to sign up as members, but she can spend more of her time on logistical stuff and leave the bulk of the money raising to Vinson. We don't really need to amend the budget, beyond adding in to both the revenue and expense side, the amount of his compensation. Since he's getting it as a percentage of whatever he raises, then revenues would increase by a corresponding amount to any incurred expenses for hiring him. Thus on a 50% model, Total revenues would now be $40,800 and we'd add $20.400 as a new Fundraising Expense item, or place it under "staff" or whatever line item that was. When I discuss this with him, I'll work on what our target goal should be and we can use that to amend the budget. In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 1/30/13 8:53 AM, Wes Benedict wrote: > I'm not against the concept of hiring a fundraiser, but I'd like to know > more about what you have in mind and how it would affect finances before > voting on the issue. > > At our January Shreveport meeting, I believe we passed a budget with Revenue > of $20,400 and Expenses of $18,600. (Please correct me if my numbers are > wrong--whatever ends up in the Secretary's minutes are the official numbers.) > > I'd like to ask the Chairman how he foresees the budget being affected and > if he thinks the Board of Directors would need to vote to amend the budget > in order to implement a contract with Mr. Mouser. > > For example, if we foresee Mr. Mouser raising $10,000 and being paid 25%, or > $2,500, then perhaps we would not need to amend the Revenue portion of the > budget, but might need to add a Fundraising Expenses budget item of $2,500. > > If we hire a fundraiser, perhaps that would take some of the workload off of > Mr. Ebarb, Ms. Adams, and the finance committee so they could work on other > things. > > --Wes Benedict > Finance Officer > 512-659-8896 > > Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors wrote, On 1/29/2013 12:17 PM: >> To all, >> >> We had discussed at our October meeting the possibility of taking on Vinson >> Mouser(former Chairman for the new folks), or someone else, as LPL fundraiser. >> >> My apologies for not including it in January's agenda. >> >> Considering the new contract we've offered Wendy, and the funding goals set >> by the SPC, we will need some major effort to bring money into the party. >> >> I suggest we take up the issue ASAP. >> >> I'll get the ball rolling with this then: >> >> Motion - >> >> That the chairman is authorized to negotiate and offer a contract for >> fundraising with Vinson Mouser for the remainder of 2013. >> >> >> Please submit your votes, and or discussion as soon as possible so we can >> get moving on this. >> >> >> >> -- >> In Liberty, >> >> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The return on this set of letters will tell me more about whether we will have the financial support from our base to continue with or without a fund-raiser. In the mean time though, I am voting nay. --Reed Ebarb, Secretary and interim Treasurer > What would a contract look like? I already do fund-raising letters and > some calls myself, so what would he be doing that myself and Wendy aren't > already doing? > >> To all, >> >> We had discussed at our October meeting the possibility of taking on >> Vinson >> Mouser(former Chairman for the new folks), or someone else, as LPL >> fundraiser. >> >> My apologies for not including it in January's agenda. >> >> Considering the new contract we've offered Wendy, and the funding goals >> set by >> the SPC, we will need some major effort to bring money into the party. >> >> I suggest we take up the issue ASAP. >> >> I'll get the ball rolling with this then: >> >> Motion - >> >> That the chairman is authorized to negotiate and offer a contract for >> fundraising with Vinson Mouser for the remainder of 2013. >> >> >> Please submit your votes, and or discussion as soon as possible so we >> can >> get >> moving on this. >> >> >> >> -- >> In Liberty, >> >> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > If you have not already done so, please consider becoming a dues member of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana by visiting louisianalibertarian.net From finance at lplouisiana.org Thu Jan 31 10:07:52 2013 From: finance at lplouisiana.org (Wes Benedict) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 10:07:52 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - Fundraiser position In-Reply-To: <51095461.1080905@lplouisiana.org> References: <510933DD.30303@lplouisiana.org> <51095461.1080905@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <510A96D8.2050709@lplouisiana.org> I am voting nay on this. I'm uneasy approving a contract without knowing what's in it on something that would have a large impact on the budget. I'd be more willing to consider voting for a contract that was already written--and more like a 25% commission. I'm comfortable if our Chairman wants to develop a proposal with Mr. Mouser and present that for a vote. I think the effort is likely to be unsuccessful. I've seen several people around the U.S. volunteer to raise funds for commissions, then not raise much because it was much harder than they imagined. However, I am glad our Chairman thought about this, took the initiative and made the proposal. It has put a bit of pressure on the finance committee and others to deliver. I spoke with Guy McLendon of Lake Charles last night. He's one of the three of us on the finance committee. I believe he feels confident he can raise a few thousand, and I can raise a few thousand, over the next three to four months. The finance committee will raise funds as volunteers with no commission. I'd like to see other board members, in addition to Mr. Ebarb, try to raise $300 or $1,000 from others. Perhaps even Mr. Mouser, as a volunteer, could raise $1,000 or $2,000 from sources he's aware of. I'm not dead set against our Chairman's proposal and will not be upset if it passes against my recommendation. However, I recommend giving the finance committee and the rest of the board a few months to pass or fail before paying someone to do this. With our Chairman's permission, I'd like to forward this email to Guy McLendon. --Wes Benedict - Finance Officer Libertarian Party of Louisiana 512-659-8896 Adrien Monteleone wrote, On 1/30/2013 11:12 AM: > Thank you Wes, > > Yes, the intention was to move the workload to a fundraiser and off of > the Secretary/Treasurer and ED. Though we might set the Finance Chair > as the person "in charge" of the fundraiser since that is more within > their purview. We could however, do the same as with the ED and > simply put both under the Chair's direction. > > Ms. Adams has indicated to me she is not very good with asking people > for money. She's doing a heck of a job in nearly every other task we > have her doing. She's great at coordinating and getting people > involved, but asking for money is not her strong suite. > > Vinson is experienced doing so and has raised quite a bit in the > past. As Chair, he kept the party financed on his own fundraising > efforts without outside assistance, and as Campaign Manager for Lee > Horne, raised several tens of thousands. > > Reed is of course the party Secretary and acting Treasurer. Neither is > officially a fundraiser, and both positions have plenty of other > duties. His non-LPL life is keeping him very busy right now, and I'd > like to continue the trend of bringing new people on board and > spreading duties around than to continue to shovel things one person's > way. Just as we know and have seen that recruiting members and > activists is itself a full time position, so is raising money. Thus I > believe we should make a similar move and bring on a fundraiser. > > I don't think Wendy alone or even with the efforts of Mr. Ebarb > continuing to pull in what they are pulling in, are going to get us to > 20,400 in revenue. There would have to be a significant increase in > the level of fundraising activity to do so. > > From what I've gathered in conversation with others, though I will > have to verify, is that we would offer somewhere between 35% and 50% > as compensation. I think 50% is standard fare, but I could be wrong. > > At 35%, we'd need Vinson to raise $31,385 or so in the year. He would > be paid ? $10,985. I'm not sure he'd work for that amount unless he > could pull off those numbers part time. > > He'd like a full-time position. My guess would be he would need 50%, > which if we were to net $20,400, would mean he would raise $40,800 and > keep half. Even then, I'm not sure if that is enough for him, but he > would be in control of that by his efforts. If we went with 35%, he'd > have to raise $75k-$90k to make it worth it to him to quite his day > job. (which he is willing to do if the money is right) > > That should cover the main part of the terms. I'm still looking for > example contracts for the ancillary stuff that goes along with the > position. > > Yes, we would likely have to amend the budget at some point, though > even if we were to hire him this week (I doubt it) I think we'd be > okay till the April meeting. > > The budget after all, is just a model or target, it isn't a hard and > fast "law" or "rule" we have to follow short of a vote to amend it. So > if the money is coming in, then I don't think it matters if we are > paying him some of it that wasn't set aside in the budget. He's > raising it himself. The goal for this position is to free up other > people to focus on their core tasks, especially the ED. Once someone > is 'activated' by the ED then the fundraiser can go into action, > hitting them up for money and soliciting monthly pledges, and special > project donations. Certainly, she'll still have to try to get people > to sign up as members, but she can spend more of her time on > logistical stuff and leave the bulk of the money raising to Vinson. > > We don't really need to amend the budget, beyond adding in to both the > revenue and expense side, the amount of his compensation. Since he's > getting it as a percentage of whatever he raises, then revenues would > increase by a corresponding amount to any incurred expenses for hiring > him. > > Thus on a 50% model, Total revenues would now be $40,800 and we'd add > $20.400 as a new Fundraising Expense item, or place it under "staff" > or whatever line item that was. When I discuss this with him, I'll > work on what our target goal should be and we can use that to amend > the budget. > > > > > In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > On 1/30/13 8:53 AM, Wes Benedict wrote: >> I'm not against the concept of hiring a fundraiser, but I'd like to >> know more about what you have in mind and how it would affect >> finances before voting on the issue. >> >> At our January Shreveport meeting, I believe we passed a budget with >> Revenue of $20,400 and Expenses of $18,600. (Please correct me if my >> numbers are wrong--whatever ends up in the Secretary's minutes are >> the official numbers.) >> >> I'd like to ask the Chairman how he foresees the budget being >> affected and if he thinks the Board of Directors would need to vote >> to amend the budget in order to implement a contract with Mr. Mouser. >> >> For example, if we foresee Mr. Mouser raising $10,000 and being paid >> 25%, or $2,500, then perhaps we would not need to amend the Revenue >> portion of the budget, but might need to add a Fundraising Expenses >> budget item of $2,500. >> >> If we hire a fundraiser, perhaps that would take some of the workload >> off of Mr. Ebarb, Ms. Adams, and the finance committee so they could >> work on other things. >> >> --Wes Benedict >> Finance Officer >> 512-659-8896 >> >> Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors wrote, On 1/29/2013 12:17 PM: >>> To all, >>> >>> We had discussed at our October meeting the possibility of taking on >>> Vinson Mouser(former Chairman for the new folks), or someone else, >>> as LPL fundraiser. >>> >>> My apologies for not including it in January's agenda. >>> >>> Considering the new contract we've offered Wendy, and the funding >>> goals set by the SPC, we will need some major effort to bring money >>> into the party. >>> >>> I suggest we take up the issue ASAP. >>> >>> I'll get the ball rolling with this then: >>> >>> Motion - >>> >>> That the chairman is authorized to negotiate and offer a contract >>> for fundraising with Vinson Mouser for the remainder of 2013. >>> >>> >>> Please submit your votes, and or discussion as soon as possible so >>> we can get moving on this. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> In Liberty, >>> >>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SCC mailing list >>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From membership at lplouisiana.org Thu Jan 31 11:14:48 2013 From: membership at lplouisiana.org (Membership LPL) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 11:14:48 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - Fundraiser position In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001c01cdffd6$7a16a100$6e43e300$@org> NAY. --------------------------- Howard Kearney Membership From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:18 PM To: scc at lplouisiana.org Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - Fundraiser position To all, We had discussed at our October meeting the possibility of taking on Vinson Mouser(former Chairman for the new folks), or someone else, as LPL fundraiser. My apologies for not including it in January's agenda. Considering the new contract we've offered Wendy, and the funding goals set by the SPC, we will need some major effort to bring money into the party. I suggest we take up the issue ASAP. I'll get the ball rolling with this then: Motion - That the chairman is authorized to negotiate and offer a contract for fundraising with Vinson Mouser for the remainder of 2013. Please submit your votes, and or discussion as soon as possible so we can get moving on this. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Paladin at LPLouisiana.org Thu Jan 31 11:54:16 2013 From: Paladin at LPLouisiana.org (T Lee Horne III) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 12:54:16 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - Fundraiser position In-Reply-To: <001c01cdffd6$7a16a100$6e43e300$@org> References: <001c01cdffd6$7a16a100$6e43e300$@org> Message-ID: <000001cdffdb$fd580fe0$f8082fa0$@org> I am in favor of the motion from the chair regarding the hiring of a fundraiser. As I appreciate the motion the fundraiser will only receive payment based on funds raised by his or her efforts and all expenses are to be paid by the fundraiser. T Lee Horne, III Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 paladin at lplouisiana.org 318-542-4445 google voice tleehorneiii skype From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of Membership LPL Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 12:15 PM To: 'Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors' Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - Fundraiser position NAY. --------------------------- Howard Kearney Membership From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:18 PM To: scc at lplouisiana.org Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - Fundraiser position To all, We had discussed at our October meeting the possibility of taking on Vinson Mouser(former Chairman for the new folks), or someone else, as LPL fundraiser. My apologies for not including it in January's agenda. Considering the new contract we've offered Wendy, and the funding goals set by the SPC, we will need some major effort to bring money into the party. I suggest we take up the issue ASAP. I'll get the ball rolling with this then: Motion - That the chairman is authorized to negotiate and offer a contract for fundraising with Vinson Mouser for the remainder of 2013. Please submit your votes, and or discussion as soon as possible so we can get moving on this. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chairman at lplouisiana.org Thu Jan 31 12:21:45 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 12:21:45 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - Fundraiser position In-Reply-To: <000001cdffdb$fd580fe0$f8082fa0$@org> References: <001c01cdffd6$7a16a100$6e43e300$@org> <000001cdffdb$fd580fe0$f8082fa0$@org> Message-ID: <510AB639.3060009@lplouisiana.org> Thank you Lee, Vote Received. Note, you received a bounce on this message because you originally posted the reply from a forwarded mailbox which wasn't a list member. (one of the hazards of forwarding mail) I sent the message through, and I added your Yahoo address to the accepted non-members list for future postings. In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 1/31/13 11:54 AM, T Lee Horne III wrote: > > I am in favor of the motion from the chair regarding the hiring of a > fundraiser. > > As I appreciate the motion the fundraiser will only receive payment based on > funds raised by his or her efforts and all expenses are to be paid by the > fundraiser. > > *T Lee Horne, III* > > Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA > > President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 > > Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 > > Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 > > paladin at lplouisiana.org > > 318-542-4445 google voice > > tleehorneiii skype > > *From:*scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] *On > Behalf Of *Membership LPL > *Sent:* Thursday, January 31, 2013 12:15 PM > *To:* 'Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors' > *Subject:* Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - Fundraiser > position > > NAY. > > --------------------------- > > Howard Kearney > > Membership > > *From:*scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org > [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] *On Behalf Of *Mailing list for LPL > Board of Directors > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:18 PM > *To:* scc at lplouisiana.org > *Subject:* [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - Fundraiser position > > To all, > > We had discussed at our October meeting the possibility of taking on Vinson > Mouser(former Chairman for the new folks), or someone else, as LPL fundraiser. > > My apologies for not including it in January's agenda. > > Considering the new contract we've offered Wendy, and the funding goals set > by the SPC, we will need some major effort to bring money into the party. > > I suggest we take up the issue ASAP. > > I'll get the ball rolling with this then: > > Motion - > > That the chairman is authorized to negotiate and offer a contract for > fundraising with Vinson Mouser for the remainder of 2013. > > > Please submit your votes, and or discussion as soon as possible so we can > get moving on this. > > > > -- > In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 1/31/13 11:14 AM, Membership LPL wrote: > > NAY. > > --------------------------- > > Howard Kearney > > Membership > > *From:*scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] *On > Behalf Of *Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:18 PM > *To:* scc at lplouisiana.org > *Subject:* [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - Fundraiser position > > To all, > > We had discussed at our October meeting the possibility of taking on Vinson > Mouser(former Chairman for the new folks), or someone else, as LPL fundraiser. > > My apologies for not including it in January's agenda. > > Considering the new contract we've offered Wendy, and the funding goals set > by the SPC, we will need some major effort to bring money into the party. > > I suggest we take up the issue ASAP. > > I'll get the ball rolling with this then: > > Motion - > > That the chairman is authorized to negotiate and offer a contract for > fundraising with Vinson Mouser for the remainder of 2013. > > > Please submit your votes, and or discussion as soon as possible so we can > get moving on this. > > > > > -- > In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: chairman.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 283 bytes Desc: not available URL: From chairman at lplouisiana.org Thu Jan 31 12:40:43 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 12:40:43 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - Fundraiser position In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <510ABAAB.5060108@lplouisiana.org> Thank you Reed, Vote received. I will however take the liberty to address your concerns: I understand fully the desire to meet Vinson before approving a contract with him. It is for this reason, I wanted to handle this at the January meeting and have him attend. I had no intention of pushing this to be signed and completed before the April meeting, nor was I expecting the Board to approve a contract that doesn't exist yet. I was asking for support and approval to negotiate and offer the contract, but the Board would still have to approve it. We conducted a similar process with Wendy. Perhaps my choice of using the language "and offer" should be amended out to make it clear that no signatures would be applied until the Board approves the terms. If you submitted such as a motion to amend, I'm sure that amendment would pass and we could then consider the amended proposal. The question of why paying someone to raise funds I thought I had already addressed, but the simple fact, other than his previous ability and experience, is that he could do so full time. None of us have that availability. Thus the potential to raise more funds is available. We could ask the same questions for each task the Executive Director does. Why pay her to do them, when we can do them for free? The simple answer is not even all of us put together can consistently manage the time to complete the tasks she is performing working full time on them. To be sure, Wendy is not comfortable asking for money. She has made that clear. But she is doing it anyway as you mentioned. But, I think it a much more positive and productive situation to employ the principle of "division of labor," as it is called in economic circles, where she carries out the tasks she is best doing, and someone else carries out the tasks they are better suited to - namely fundraising. She is already employing this with organizing the parishes in a different task ? the organizers she has found, for the most part, but not all, are unwilling to make phone calls to get anyone to attend the caucuses. They seem to be willing to do any other leg work, but not that crucial part. So she has decided to handle that on her own, becuase she is good at it and knows it has to be done for the event to be a success. Everyone has their strengths and their roles. If we can find someone who is capable and willing to perform a function we need, that she is not experienced in or very good doing, and it would save us the burden of having to do so, and that would allow us to focus on our other responsibilities instead of having to perform it ourselves, then I see no reason not to attempt to do so. In conclusion, I am open to the above amendment if you wish to propose it, and I certainly agree with waiting till the April meeting to formally approve the contract and offer it to Mr. Mouser, after everyone has had a chance to meet him as we did with Wendy. This will give us some time to conduct a proper negotiation, and to take account of our own efforts and abilities as volunteer part time fundraisers. In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 1/31/13 12:52 AM, Reed Ebarb wrote: > I am voting nay on this. I simply know to little at this point to give a > full vote of confidence. I haven't met him and I don't feel comfortable > giving anyone a contract unless the Board has had a chance to sit down and > meet this person, as well as negotiate a contract. If I can still send out > fund-raising letters, why pay him 35% of the return on them for doing what > I can do for free? As far as Wendy not wanting to ask for money, she may > just have to get over that. At our current rate, $20,400 isn't that far > off what I think we can do. The return on this set of letters will tell me > more about whether we will have the financial support from our base to > continue with or without a fund-raiser. > > In the mean time though, I am voting nay. > > --Reed Ebarb, Secretary and interim Treasurer > > >> What would a contract look like? I already do fund-raising letters and >> some calls myself, so what would he be doing that myself and Wendy aren't >> already doing? >> >>> To all, >>> >>> We had discussed at our October meeting the possibility of taking on >>> Vinson >>> Mouser(former Chairman for the new folks), or someone else, as LPL >>> fundraiser. >>> >>> My apologies for not including it in January's agenda. >>> >>> Considering the new contract we've offered Wendy, and the funding goals >>> set by >>> the SPC, we will need some major effort to bring money into the party. >>> >>> I suggest we take up the issue ASAP. >>> >>> I'll get the ball rolling with this then: >>> >>> Motion - >>> >>> That the chairman is authorized to negotiate and offer a contract for >>> fundraising with Vinson Mouser for the remainder of 2013. >>> >>> >>> Please submit your votes, and or discussion as soon as possible so we >>> can >>> get >>> moving on this. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> In Liberty, >>> >>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SCC mailing list >>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> > > If you have not already done so, please consider becoming a dues member of > the Libertarian Party of Louisiana by visiting louisianalibertarian.net > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: chairman.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 283 bytes Desc: not available URL: From chairman at lplouisiana.org Thu Jan 31 13:05:15 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 13:05:15 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - Fundraiser position In-Reply-To: <510A96D8.2050709@lplouisiana.org> References: <510933DD.30303@lplouisiana.org> <51095461.1080905@lplouisiana.org> <510A96D8.2050709@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <510AC06B.4040403@lplouisiana.org> Thank you Wes, Vote Received. As with Mr. Ebarb, I will attempt to address your concerns. Some appear to be the same, so please refer to that reply as well. I have no intention of having a signed contract in place without the Board's knowing what is in the contract. I'm not asking for approval of an unwritten document. Perhaps the amendment I suggested to Mr. Ebarb would address that concern as a clarification. As for the commission level, that of course is negotiable, but recall, it is not an expense on our part per se. We would not be paying unless the money was raised, thus there is no real impact on the budget. Both sides of the equation increase accordingly. No negative net change to our cash assets occurs. As for the likely success of the contract, all I can say is if no one was any good at it, the other parties wouldn't be raising billions. To be sure, Mr. Mouser is not a professional. But I would like to attempt to offer him the opportunity to put his skills and experience to use. And as a former chairman, who has already performed this service for the party, and is known to many members with whom we have lost contact with, I would think he would stand the best chance of success that a non-professional possibly could have. I see it like this: we can raise only so much on our own dime and time. He is a former activist, chair, and fundraiser for the party. He will either be able to raise more funds than we can, or he cannot. If he cannot, then my next consideration would be to hire a professional firm or individual with no ties to the party. There is lots of work to do in this party. Wendy is doing some, and could and would like to do more. As it is, we raised her pay, gave her some security with a year long term, and extended some compensation for personal expenses incurred on behalf of the party. She's agreed to the contract because she believes in the party and in the work she is doing. But the amount we can afford right now is woefully inadequate. (it comes to $6.25 per hour, assuming only 40 hours a week worked) If we are to be serious about advancing the party, our candidates, and making an impact in elections, we need to ramp this up much bigger than where we are now. We can't do it all at once, but I consider this a crucial step in getting there. We will need additional staff, and we will need an office. That alone will necessitate hiring a fundraiser. Being able to pay our Executive Director enough so that she doesn't have to work a second job and can focus all of her time on the LPL also necessitates hiring a fundraiser. I would like to see one in place no later than April. In conclusion, paired with the suggested amendment, and an April time frame for formalizing this contract and position, and for those who haven't, getting a chance to meet Mr. Mouser, I think that will be sufficient time to judge our own efforts with respect to Mr. Ebarb's letters, and the Finance Committee's activities. I've added Mr. McLendon to the conversation, though of course, only Board members can vote. You mentioned a 3rd member on the Finance Committee? Feel free to include them as well for their opinions on the matter. In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 1/31/13 10:07 AM, Wes Benedict wrote: > I am voting nay on this. > > I'm uneasy approving a contract without knowing what's in it on something > that would have a large impact on the budget. > I'd be more willing to consider voting for a contract that was already > written--and more like a 25% commission. > I'm comfortable if our Chairman wants to develop a proposal with Mr. Mouser > and present that for a vote. > I think the effort is likely to be unsuccessful. I've seen several people > around the U.S. volunteer to raise funds for commissions, then not raise > much because it was much harder than they imagined. > > However, I am glad our Chairman thought about this, took the initiative and > made the proposal. It has put a bit of pressure on the finance committee and > others to deliver. > > I spoke with Guy McLendon of Lake Charles last night. He's one of the three > of us on the finance committee. I believe he feels confident he can raise a > few thousand, and I can raise a few thousand, over the next three to four > months. > The finance committee will raise funds as volunteers with no commission. > > I'd like to see other board members, in addition to Mr. Ebarb, try to raise > $300 or $1,000 from others. > > Perhaps even Mr. Mouser, as a volunteer, could raise $1,000 or $2,000 from > sources he's aware of. > > I'm not dead set against our Chairman's proposal and will not be upset if it > passes against my recommendation. > > However, I recommend giving the finance committee and the rest of the board > a few months to pass or fail before paying someone to do this. > > With our Chairman's permission, I'd like to forward this email to Guy McLendon. > > --Wes Benedict - Finance Officer > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > 512-659-8896 > > > Adrien Monteleone wrote, On 1/30/2013 11:12 AM: >> Thank you Wes, >> >> Yes, the intention was to move the workload to a fundraiser and off of the >> Secretary/Treasurer and ED. Though we might set the Finance Chair as the >> person "in charge" of the fundraiser since that is more within their >> purview. We could however, do the same as with the ED and simply put both >> under the Chair's direction. >> >> Ms. Adams has indicated to me she is not very good with asking people for >> money. She's doing a heck of a job in nearly every other task we have her >> doing. She's great at coordinating and getting people involved, but asking >> for money is not her strong suite. >> >> Vinson is experienced doing so and has raised quite a bit in the past. As >> Chair, he kept the party financed on his own fundraising efforts without >> outside assistance, and as Campaign Manager for Lee Horne, raised several >> tens of thousands. >> >> Reed is of course the party Secretary and acting Treasurer. Neither is >> officially a fundraiser, and both positions have plenty of other duties. >> His non-LPL life is keeping him very busy right now, and I'd like to >> continue the trend of bringing new people on board and spreading duties >> around than to continue to shovel things one person's way. Just as we know >> and have seen that recruiting members and activists is itself a full time >> position, so is raising money. Thus I believe we should make a similar >> move and bring on a fundraiser. >> >> I don't think Wendy alone or even with the efforts of Mr. Ebarb continuing >> to pull in what they are pulling in, are going to get us to 20,400 in >> revenue. There would have to be a significant increase in the level of >> fundraising activity to do so. >> >> From what I've gathered in conversation with others, though I will have to >> verify, is that we would offer somewhere between 35% and 50% as >> compensation. I think 50% is standard fare, but I could be wrong. >> >> At 35%, we'd need Vinson to raise $31,385 or so in the year. He would be >> paid ? $10,985. I'm not sure he'd work for that amount unless he could >> pull off those numbers part time. >> >> He'd like a full-time position. My guess would be he would need 50%, which >> if we were to net $20,400, would mean he would raise $40,800 and keep >> half. Even then, I'm not sure if that is enough for him, but he would be >> in control of that by his efforts. If we went with 35%, he'd have to raise >> $75k-$90k to make it worth it to him to quite his day job. (which he is >> willing to do if the money is right) >> >> That should cover the main part of the terms. I'm still looking for >> example contracts for the ancillary stuff that goes along with the position. >> >> Yes, we would likely have to amend the budget at some point, though even if >> we were to hire him this week (I doubt it) I think we'd be okay till the >> April meeting. >> >> The budget after all, is just a model or target, it isn't a hard and fast >> "law" or "rule" we have to follow short of a vote to amend it. So if the >> money is coming in, then I don't think it matters if we are paying him some >> of it that wasn't set aside in the budget. He's raising it himself. The >> goal for this position is to free up other people to focus on their core >> tasks, especially the ED. Once someone is 'activated' by the ED then the >> fundraiser can go into action, hitting them up for money and soliciting >> monthly pledges, and special project donations. Certainly, she'll still >> have to try to get people to sign up as members, but she can spend more of >> her time on logistical stuff and leave the bulk of the money raising to Vinson. >> >> We don't really need to amend the budget, beyond adding in to both the >> revenue and expense side, the amount of his compensation. Since he's >> getting it as a percentage of whatever he raises, then revenues would >> increase by a corresponding amount to any incurred expenses for hiring him. >> >> Thus on a 50% model, Total revenues would now be $40,800 and we'd add >> $20.400 as a new Fundraising Expense item, or place it under "staff" or >> whatever line item that was. When I discuss this with him, I'll work on >> what our target goal should be and we can use that to amend the budget. >> >> >> >> >> In Liberty, >> >> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >> On 1/30/13 8:53 AM, Wes Benedict wrote: >>> I'm not against the concept of hiring a fundraiser, but I'd like to know >>> more about what you have in mind and how it would affect finances before >>> voting on the issue. >>> >>> At our January Shreveport meeting, I believe we passed a budget with >>> Revenue of $20,400 and Expenses of $18,600. (Please correct me if my >>> numbers are wrong--whatever ends up in the Secretary's minutes are the >>> official numbers.) >>> >>> I'd like to ask the Chairman how he foresees the budget being affected and >>> if he thinks the Board of Directors would need to vote to amend the budget >>> in order to implement a contract with Mr. Mouser. >>> >>> For example, if we foresee Mr. Mouser raising $10,000 and being paid 25%, >>> or $2,500, then perhaps we would not need to amend the Revenue portion of >>> the budget, but might need to add a Fundraising Expenses budget item of >>> $2,500. >>> >>> If we hire a fundraiser, perhaps that would take some of the workload off >>> of Mr. Ebarb, Ms. Adams, and the finance committee so they could work on >>> other things. >>> >>> --Wes Benedict >>> Finance Officer >>> 512-659-8896 >>> >>> Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors wrote, On 1/29/2013 12:17 PM: >>>> To all, >>>> >>>> We had discussed at our October meeting the possibility of taking on >>>> Vinson Mouser(former Chairman for the new folks), or someone else, as LPL >>>> fundraiser. >>>> >>>> My apologies for not including it in January's agenda. >>>> >>>> Considering the new contract we've offered Wendy, and the funding goals >>>> set by the SPC, we will need some major effort to bring money into the party. >>>> >>>> I suggest we take up the issue ASAP. >>>> >>>> I'll get the ball rolling with this then: >>>> >>>> Motion - >>>> >>>> That the chairman is authorized to negotiate and offer a contract for >>>> fundraising with Vinson Mouser for the remainder of 2013. >>>> >>>> >>>> Please submit your votes, and or discussion as soon as possible so we can >>>> get moving on this. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> In Liberty, >>>> >>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SCC mailing list >>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SCC mailing list >>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: chairman.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 283 bytes Desc: not available URL: From finance at lplouisiana.org Thu Jan 31 15:46:08 2013 From: finance at lplouisiana.org (Wes Benedict) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 15:46:08 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - Fundraiser position In-Reply-To: <510AC06B.4040403@lplouisiana.org> References: <510933DD.30303@lplouisiana.org> <51095461.1080905@lplouisiana.org> <510A96D8.2050709@lplouisiana.org> <510AC06B.4040403@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <510AE620.1060009@lplouisiana.org> Thank you for adding Guy to the discussion. At this point, it sounds to me like you just want to start discussing and negotiating a proposal with Mr. Mouser. I don't think you need this motion to discuss and start negotiations on a proposal with Mr. Mouser. I just think you would need a motion approved by the board to sign and enter into a contract with Mr. Mouser. Since you are talking about an April time frame, that gives plenty of time for the Finance Committee (me in particular) to put up or move out of the way. I think it would be appropriate, if the chair wanted, and no one else objected, to withdraw his motion, and continue his non-binding discussions with Mr. Mouser, with the board expecting a possible proposal to be considered at the April meeting. --Wes Benedict Adrien Monteleone wrote, On 1/31/2013 1:05 PM: > Thank you Wes, > > Vote Received. > > > As with Mr. Ebarb, I will attempt to address your concerns. Some > appear to be the same, so please refer to that reply as well. > > I have no intention of having a signed contract in place without the > Board's knowing what is in the contract. I'm not asking for approval > of an unwritten document. Perhaps the amendment I suggested to Mr. > Ebarb would address that concern as a clarification. > > As for the commission level, that of course is negotiable, but recall, > it is not an expense on our part per se. We would not be paying > unless the money was raised, thus there is no real impact on the > budget. Both sides of the equation increase accordingly. No negative > net change to our cash assets occurs. > > As for the likely success of the contract, all I can say is if no one > was any good at it, the other parties wouldn't be raising billions. To > be sure, Mr. Mouser is not a professional. But I would like to > attempt to offer him the opportunity to put his skills and experience > to use. And as a former chairman, who has already performed this > service for the party, and is known to many members with whom we have > lost contact with, I would think he would stand the best chance of > success that a non-professional possibly could have. > > I see it like this: we can raise only so much on our own dime and > time. He is a former activist, chair, and fundraiser for the party. > He will either be able to raise more funds than we can, or he cannot. > If he cannot, then my next consideration would be to hire a > professional firm or individual with no ties to the party. > > There is lots of work to do in this party. Wendy is doing some, and > could and would like to do more. As it is, we raised her pay, gave > her some security with a year long term, and extended some > compensation for personal expenses incurred on behalf of the party. > She's agreed to the contract because she believes in the party and in > the work she is doing. But the amount we can afford right now is > woefully inadequate. (it comes to $6.25 per hour, assuming only 40 > hours a week worked) > > If we are to be serious about advancing the party, our candidates, and > making an impact in elections, we need to ramp this up much bigger > than where we are now. We can't do it all at once, but I consider > this a crucial step in getting there. > > We will need additional staff, and we will need an office. That alone > will necessitate hiring a fundraiser. Being able to pay our Executive > Director enough so that she doesn't have to work a second job and can > focus all of her time on the LPL also necessitates hiring a > fundraiser. I would like to see one in place no later than April. > > In conclusion, paired with the suggested amendment, and an April time > frame for formalizing this contract and position, and for those who > haven't, getting a chance to meet Mr. Mouser, I think that will be > sufficient time to judge our own efforts with respect to Mr. Ebarb's > letters, and the Finance Committee's activities. > > I've added Mr. McLendon to the conversation, though of course, only > Board members can vote. > > You mentioned a 3rd member on the Finance Committee? Feel free to > include them as well for their opinions on the matter. > > In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > On 1/31/13 10:07 AM, Wes Benedict wrote: >> I am voting nay on this. >> >> I'm uneasy approving a contract without knowing what's in it on >> something that would have a large impact on the budget. >> I'd be more willing to consider voting for a contract that was >> already written--and more like a 25% commission. >> I'm comfortable if our Chairman wants to develop a proposal with Mr. >> Mouser and present that for a vote. >> I think the effort is likely to be unsuccessful. I've seen several >> people around the U.S. volunteer to raise funds for commissions, then >> not raise much because it was much harder than they imagined. >> >> However, I am glad our Chairman thought about this, took the >> initiative and made the proposal. It has put a bit of pressure on the >> finance committee and others to deliver. >> >> I spoke with Guy McLendon of Lake Charles last night. He's one of the >> three of us on the finance committee. I believe he feels confident he >> can raise a few thousand, and I can raise a few thousand, over the >> next three to four months. >> The finance committee will raise funds as volunteers with no commission. >> >> I'd like to see other board members, in addition to Mr. Ebarb, try to >> raise $300 or $1,000 from others. >> >> Perhaps even Mr. Mouser, as a volunteer, could raise $1,000 or $2,000 >> from sources he's aware of. >> >> I'm not dead set against our Chairman's proposal and will not be >> upset if it passes against my recommendation. >> >> However, I recommend giving the finance committee and the rest of the >> board a few months to pass or fail before paying someone to do this. >> >> With our Chairman's permission, I'd like to forward this email to Guy >> McLendon. >> >> --Wes Benedict - Finance Officer >> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >> 512-659-8896 >> >> >> Adrien Monteleone wrote, On 1/30/2013 11:12 AM: >>> Thank you Wes, >>> >>> Yes, the intention was to move the workload to a fundraiser and off >>> of the Secretary/Treasurer and ED. Though we might set the Finance >>> Chair as the person "in charge" of the fundraiser since that is more >>> within their purview. We could however, do the same as with the ED >>> and simply put both under the Chair's direction. >>> >>> Ms. Adams has indicated to me she is not very good with asking >>> people for money. She's doing a heck of a job in nearly every other >>> task we have her doing. She's great at coordinating and getting >>> people involved, but asking for money is not her strong suite. >>> >>> Vinson is experienced doing so and has raised quite a bit in the >>> past. As Chair, he kept the party financed on his own fundraising >>> efforts without outside assistance, and as Campaign Manager for Lee >>> Horne, raised several tens of thousands. >>> >>> Reed is of course the party Secretary and acting Treasurer. Neither >>> is officially a fundraiser, and both positions have plenty of other >>> duties. His non-LPL life is keeping him very busy right now, and >>> I'd like to continue the trend of bringing new people on board and >>> spreading duties around than to continue to shovel things one >>> person's way. Just as we know and have seen that recruiting members >>> and activists is itself a full time position, so is raising money. >>> Thus I believe we should make a similar move and bring on a fundraiser. >>> >>> I don't think Wendy alone or even with the efforts of Mr. Ebarb >>> continuing to pull in what they are pulling in, are going to get us >>> to 20,400 in revenue. There would have to be a significant increase >>> in the level of fundraising activity to do so. >>> >>> From what I've gathered in conversation with others, though I will >>> have to verify, is that we would offer somewhere between 35% and 50% >>> as compensation. I think 50% is standard fare, but I could be wrong. >>> >>> At 35%, we'd need Vinson to raise $31,385 or so in the year. He >>> would be paid ? $10,985. I'm not sure he'd work for that amount >>> unless he could pull off those numbers part time. >>> >>> He'd like a full-time position. My guess would be he would need >>> 50%, which if we were to net $20,400, would mean he would raise >>> $40,800 and keep half. Even then, I'm not sure if that is enough >>> for him, but he would be in control of that by his efforts. If we >>> went with 35%, he'd have to raise $75k-$90k to make it worth it to >>> him to quite his day job. (which he is willing to do if the money is >>> right) >>> >>> That should cover the main part of the terms. I'm still looking for >>> example contracts for the ancillary stuff that goes along with the >>> position. >>> >>> Yes, we would likely have to amend the budget at some point, though >>> even if we were to hire him this week (I doubt it) I think we'd be >>> okay till the April meeting. >>> >>> The budget after all, is just a model or target, it isn't a hard and >>> fast "law" or "rule" we have to follow short of a vote to amend it. >>> So if the money is coming in, then I don't think it matters if we >>> are paying him some of it that wasn't set aside in the budget. He's >>> raising it himself. The goal for this position is to free up other >>> people to focus on their core tasks, especially the ED. Once >>> someone is 'activated' by the ED then the fundraiser can go into >>> action, hitting them up for money and soliciting monthly pledges, >>> and special project donations. Certainly, she'll still have to try >>> to get people to sign up as members, but she can spend more of her >>> time on logistical stuff and leave the bulk of the money raising to >>> Vinson. >>> >>> We don't really need to amend the budget, beyond adding in to both >>> the revenue and expense side, the amount of his compensation. Since >>> he's getting it as a percentage of whatever he raises, then revenues >>> would increase by a corresponding amount to any incurred expenses >>> for hiring him. >>> >>> Thus on a 50% model, Total revenues would now be $40,800 and we'd >>> add $20.400 as a new Fundraising Expense item, or place it under >>> "staff" or whatever line item that was. When I discuss this with >>> him, I'll work on what our target goal should be and we can use that >>> to amend the budget. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> In Liberty, >>> >>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>> On 1/30/13 8:53 AM, Wes Benedict wrote: >>>> I'm not against the concept of hiring a fundraiser, but I'd like to >>>> know more about what you have in mind and how it would affect >>>> finances before voting on the issue. >>>> >>>> At our January Shreveport meeting, I believe we passed a budget >>>> with Revenue of $20,400 and Expenses of $18,600. (Please correct me >>>> if my numbers are wrong--whatever ends up in the Secretary's >>>> minutes are the official numbers.) >>>> >>>> I'd like to ask the Chairman how he foresees the budget being >>>> affected and if he thinks the Board of Directors would need to vote >>>> to amend the budget in order to implement a contract with Mr. Mouser. >>>> >>>> For example, if we foresee Mr. Mouser raising $10,000 and being >>>> paid 25%, or $2,500, then perhaps we would not need to amend the >>>> Revenue portion of the budget, but might need to add a Fundraising >>>> Expenses budget item of $2,500. >>>> >>>> If we hire a fundraiser, perhaps that would take some of the >>>> workload off of Mr. Ebarb, Ms. Adams, and the finance committee so >>>> they could work on other things. >>>> >>>> --Wes Benedict >>>> Finance Officer >>>> 512-659-8896 >>>> >>>> Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors wrote, On 1/29/2013 12:17 PM: >>>>> To all, >>>>> >>>>> We had discussed at our October meeting the possibility of taking >>>>> on Vinson Mouser(former Chairman for the new folks), or someone >>>>> else, as LPL fundraiser. >>>>> >>>>> My apologies for not including it in January's agenda. >>>>> >>>>> Considering the new contract we've offered Wendy, and the funding >>>>> goals set by the SPC, we will need some major effort to bring >>>>> money into the party. >>>>> >>>>> I suggest we take up the issue ASAP. >>>>> >>>>> I'll get the ball rolling with this then: >>>>> >>>>> Motion - >>>>> >>>>> That the chairman is authorized to negotiate and offer a contract >>>>> for fundraising with Vinson Mouser for the remainder of 2013. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Please submit your votes, and or discussion as soon as possible so >>>>> we can get moving on this. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> In Liberty, >>>>> >>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SCC mailing list >>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SCC mailing list >>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From membership at lplouisiana.org Thu Jan 31 16:50:03 2013 From: membership at lplouisiana.org (Membership LPL) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 16:50:03 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - Fundraiser position In-Reply-To: <510AE620.1060009@lplouisiana.org> References: <510933DD.30303@lplouisiana.org> <51095461.1080905@lplouisiana.org> <510A96D8.2050709@lplouisiana.org> <510AC06B.4040403@lplouisiana.org> <510AE620.1060009@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <001501ce0005$5061db70$f1259250$@org> I am fine with that approach. --------------------------- Howard Kearney Membership From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of Wes Benedict Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 3:46 PM To: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors Cc: Guy Mclendon Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - Fundraiser position Thank you for adding Guy to the discussion. At this point, it sounds to me like you just want to start discussing and negotiating a proposal with Mr. Mouser. I don't think you need this motion to discuss and start negotiations on a proposal with Mr. Mouser. I just think you would need a motion approved by the board to sign and enter into a contract with Mr. Mouser. Since you are talking about an April time frame, that gives plenty of time for the Finance Committee (me in particular) to put up or move out of the way. I think it would be appropriate, if the chair wanted, and no one else objected, to withdraw his motion, and continue his non-binding discussions with Mr. Mouser, with the board expecting a possible proposal to be considered at the April meeting. --Wes Benedict Adrien Monteleone wrote, On 1/31/2013 1:05 PM: Thank you Wes, Vote Received. As with Mr. Ebarb, I will attempt to address your concerns. Some appear to be the same, so please refer to that reply as well. I have no intention of having a signed contract in place without the Board's knowing what is in the contract. I'm not asking for approval of an unwritten document. Perhaps the amendment I suggested to Mr. Ebarb would address that concern as a clarification. As for the commission level, that of course is negotiable, but recall, it is not an expense on our part per se. We would not be paying unless the money was raised, thus there is no real impact on the budget. Both sides of the equation increase accordingly. No negative net change to our cash assets occurs. As for the likely success of the contract, all I can say is if no one was any good at it, the other parties wouldn't be raising billions. To be sure, Mr. Mouser is not a professional. But I would like to attempt to offer him the opportunity to put his skills and experience to use. And as a former chairman, who has already performed this service for the party, and is known to many members with whom we have lost contact with, I would think he would stand the best chance of success that a non-professional possibly could have. I see it like this: we can raise only so much on our own dime and time. He is a former activist, chair, and fundraiser for the party. He will either be able to raise more funds than we can, or he cannot. If he cannot, then my next consideration would be to hire a professional firm or individual with no ties to the party. There is lots of work to do in this party. Wendy is doing some, and could and would like to do more. As it is, we raised her pay, gave her some security with a year long term, and extended some compensation for personal expenses incurred on behalf of the party. She's agreed to the contract because she believes in the party and in the work she is doing. But the amount we can afford right now is woefully inadequate. (it comes to $6.25 per hour, assuming only 40 hours a week worked) If we are to be serious about advancing the party, our candidates, and making an impact in elections, we need to ramp this up much bigger than where we are now. We can't do it all at once, but I consider this a crucial step in getting there. We will need additional staff, and we will need an office. That alone will necessitate hiring a fundraiser. Being able to pay our Executive Director enough so that she doesn't have to work a second job and can focus all of her time on the LPL also necessitates hiring a fundraiser. I would like to see one in place no later than April. In conclusion, paired with the suggested amendment, and an April time frame for formalizing this contract and position, and for those who haven't, getting a chance to meet Mr. Mouser, I think that will be sufficient time to judge our own efforts with respect to Mr. Ebarb's letters, and the Finance Committee's activities. I've added Mr. McLendon to the conversation, though of course, only Board members can vote. You mentioned a 3rd member on the Finance Committee? Feel free to include them as well for their opinions on the matter. In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 1/31/13 10:07 AM, Wes Benedict wrote: I am voting nay on this. I'm uneasy approving a contract without knowing what's in it on something that would have a large impact on the budget. I'd be more willing to consider voting for a contract that was already written--and more like a 25% commission. I'm comfortable if our Chairman wants to develop a proposal with Mr. Mouser and present that for a vote. I think the effort is likely to be unsuccessful. I've seen several people around the U.S. volunteer to raise funds for commissions, then not raise much because it was much harder than they imagined. However, I am glad our Chairman thought about this, took the initiative and made the proposal. It has put a bit of pressure on the finance committee and others to deliver. I spoke with Guy McLendon of Lake Charles last night. He's one of the three of us on the finance committee. I believe he feels confident he can raise a few thousand, and I can raise a few thousand, over the next three to four months. The finance committee will raise funds as volunteers with no commission. I'd like to see other board members, in addition to Mr. Ebarb, try to raise $300 or $1,000 from others. Perhaps even Mr. Mouser, as a volunteer, could raise $1,000 or $2,000 from sources he's aware of. I'm not dead set against our Chairman's proposal and will not be upset if it passes against my recommendation. However, I recommend giving the finance committee and the rest of the board a few months to pass or fail before paying someone to do this. With our Chairman's permission, I'd like to forward this email to Guy McLendon. --Wes Benedict - Finance Officer Libertarian Party of Louisiana 512-659-8896 Adrien Monteleone wrote, On 1/30/2013 11:12 AM: Thank you Wes, Yes, the intention was to move the workload to a fundraiser and off of the Secretary/Treasurer and ED. Though we might set the Finance Chair as the person "in charge" of the fundraiser since that is more within their purview. We could however, do the same as with the ED and simply put both under the Chair's direction. Ms. Adams has indicated to me she is not very good with asking people for money. She's doing a heck of a job in nearly every other task we have her doing. She's great at coordinating and getting people involved, but asking for money is not her strong suite. Vinson is experienced doing so and has raised quite a bit in the past. As Chair, he kept the party financed on his own fundraising efforts without outside assistance, and as Campaign Manager for Lee Horne, raised several tens of thousands. Reed is of course the party Secretary and acting Treasurer. Neither is officially a fundraiser, and both positions have plenty of other duties. His non-LPL life is keeping him very busy right now, and I'd like to continue the trend of bringing new people on board and spreading duties around than to continue to shovel things one person's way. Just as we know and have seen that recruiting members and activists is itself a full time position, so is raising money. Thus I believe we should make a similar move and bring on a fundraiser. I don't think Wendy alone or even with the efforts of Mr. Ebarb continuing to pull in what they are pulling in, are going to get us to 20,400 in revenue. There would have to be a significant increase in the level of fundraising activity to do so. >From what I've gathered in conversation with others, though I will have to verify, is that we would offer somewhere between 35% and 50% as compensation. I think 50% is standard fare, but I could be wrong. At 35%, we'd need Vinson to raise $31,385 or so in the year. He would be paid ? $10,985. I'm not sure he'd work for that amount unless he could pull off those numbers part time. He'd like a full-time position. My guess would be he would need 50%, which if we were to net $20,400, would mean he would raise $40,800 and keep half. Even then, I'm not sure if that is enough for him, but he would be in control of that by his efforts. If we went with 35%, he'd have to raise $75k-$90k to make it worth it to him to quite his day job. (which he is willing to do if the money is right) That should cover the main part of the terms. I'm still looking for example contracts for the ancillary stuff that goes along with the position. Yes, we would likely have to amend the budget at some point, though even if we were to hire him this week (I doubt it) I think we'd be okay till the April meeting. The budget after all, is just a model or target, it isn't a hard and fast "law" or "rule" we have to follow short of a vote to amend it. So if the money is coming in, then I don't think it matters if we are paying him some of it that wasn't set aside in the budget. He's raising it himself. The goal for this position is to free up other people to focus on their core tasks, especially the ED. Once someone is 'activated' by the ED then the fundraiser can go into action, hitting them up for money and soliciting monthly pledges, and special project donations. Certainly, she'll still have to try to get people to sign up as members, but she can spend more of her time on logistical stuff and leave the bulk of the money raising to Vinson. We don't really need to amend the budget, beyond adding in to both the revenue and expense side, the amount of his compensation. Since he's getting it as a percentage of whatever he raises, then revenues would increase by a corresponding amount to any incurred expenses for hiring him. Thus on a 50% model, Total revenues would now be $40,800 and we'd add $20.400 as a new Fundraising Expense item, or place it under "staff" or whatever line item that was. When I discuss this with him, I'll work on what our target goal should be and we can use that to amend the budget. In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 1/30/13 8:53 AM, Wes Benedict wrote: I'm not against the concept of hiring a fundraiser, but I'd like to know more about what you have in mind and how it would affect finances before voting on the issue. At our January Shreveport meeting, I believe we passed a budget with Revenue of $20,400 and Expenses of $18,600. (Please correct me if my numbers are wrong--whatever ends up in the Secretary's minutes are the official numbers.) I'd like to ask the Chairman how he foresees the budget being affected and if he thinks the Board of Directors would need to vote to amend the budget in order to implement a contract with Mr. Mouser. For example, if we foresee Mr. Mouser raising $10,000 and being paid 25%, or $2,500, then perhaps we would not need to amend the Revenue portion of the budget, but might need to add a Fundraising Expenses budget item of $2,500. If we hire a fundraiser, perhaps that would take some of the workload off of Mr. Ebarb, Ms. Adams, and the finance committee so they could work on other things. --Wes Benedict Finance Officer 512-659-8896 Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors wrote, On 1/29/2013 12:17 PM: To all, We had discussed at our October meeting the possibility of taking on Vinson Mouser(former Chairman for the new folks), or someone else, as LPL fundraiser. My apologies for not including it in January's agenda. Considering the new contract we've offered Wendy, and the funding goals set by the SPC, we will need some major effort to bring money into the party. I suggest we take up the issue ASAP. I'll get the ball rolling with this then: Motion - That the chairman is authorized to negotiate and offer a contract for fundraising with Vinson Mouser for the remainder of 2013. 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URL: From secretary at lplouisiana.org Thu Jan 31 16:58:01 2013 From: secretary at lplouisiana.org (Reed Ebarb) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 16:58:01 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - Fundraiser position In-Reply-To: <001501ce0005$5061db70$f1259250$@org> References: <510933DD.30303@lplouisiana.org> <51095461.1080905@lplouisiana.org> <510A96D8.2050709@lplouisiana.org> <510AC06B.4040403@lplouisiana.org> <510AE620.1060009@lplouisiana.org> <001501ce0005$5061db70$f1259250$@org> Message-ID: I like Mr. Benedict's approach. That would be much more preferable. > I am fine with that approach. > > > > > > --------------------------- > > Howard Kearney > > Membership > > > > From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On > Behalf Of Wes Benedict > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 3:46 PM > To: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors > Cc: Guy Mclendon > Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - Fundraiser > position > > > > Thank you for adding Guy to the discussion. > > At this point, it sounds to me like you just want to start discussing and > negotiating a proposal with Mr. Mouser. > I don't think you need this motion to discuss and start negotiations on a > proposal with Mr. Mouser. > I just think you would need a motion approved by the board to sign and > enter > into a contract with Mr. Mouser. > Since you are talking about an April time frame, that gives plenty of time > for the Finance Committee (me in particular) to put up or move out of the > way. > > I think it would be appropriate, if the chair wanted, and no one else > objected, to withdraw his motion, and continue his non-binding discussions > with Mr. Mouser, with the board expecting a possible proposal to be > considered at the April meeting. > > --Wes Benedict > > > Adrien Monteleone wrote, On 1/31/2013 1:05 PM: > > Thank you Wes, > > Vote Received. > > > As with Mr. Ebarb, I will attempt to address your concerns. Some appear to > be the same, so please refer to that reply as well. > > I have no intention of having a signed contract in place without the > Board's > knowing what is in the contract. I'm not asking for approval of an > unwritten document. Perhaps the amendment I suggested to Mr. Ebarb would > address that concern as a clarification. > > As for the commission level, that of course is negotiable, but recall, it > is > not an expense on our part per se. We would not be paying unless the > money > was raised, thus there is no real impact on the budget. Both sides of the > equation increase accordingly. No negative net change to our cash assets > occurs. > > As for the likely success of the contract, all I can say is if no one was > any good at it, the other parties wouldn't be raising billions. To be > sure, > Mr. Mouser is not a professional. But I would like to attempt to offer > him > the opportunity to put his skills and experience to use. And as a former > chairman, who has already performed this service for the party, and is > known > to many members with whom we have lost contact with, I would think he > would > stand the best chance of success that a non-professional possibly could > have. > > I see it like this: we can raise only so much on our own dime and time. > He > is a former activist, chair, and fundraiser for the party. He will either > be able to raise more funds than we can, or he cannot. If he cannot, then > my next consideration would be to hire a professional firm or individual > with no ties to the party. > > There is lots of work to do in this party. Wendy is doing some, and could > and would like to do more. As it is, we raised her pay, gave her some > security with a year long term, and extended some compensation for > personal > expenses incurred on behalf of the party. She's agreed to the contract > because she believes in the party and in the work she is doing. But the > amount we can afford right now is woefully inadequate. (it comes to $6.25 > per hour, assuming only 40 hours a week worked) > > If we are to be serious about advancing the party, our candidates, and > making an impact in elections, we need to ramp this up much bigger than > where we are now. We can't do it all at once, but I consider this a > crucial > step in getting there. > > We will need additional staff, and we will need an office. That alone > will > necessitate hiring a fundraiser. Being able to pay our Executive Director > enough so that she doesn't have to work a second job and can focus all of > her time on the LPL also necessitates hiring a fundraiser. I would like > to > see one in place no later than April. > > In conclusion, paired with the suggested amendment, and an April time > frame > for formalizing this contract and position, and for those who haven't, > getting a chance to meet Mr. Mouser, I think that will be sufficient time > to > judge our own efforts with respect to Mr. Ebarb's letters, and the Finance > Committee's activities. > > I've added Mr. McLendon to the conversation, though of course, only Board > members can vote. > > You mentioned a 3rd member on the Finance Committee? Feel free to include > them as well for their opinions on the matter. > > > > > In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > On 1/31/13 10:07 AM, Wes Benedict wrote: > > I am voting nay on this. > > I'm uneasy approving a contract without knowing what's in it on something > that would have a large impact on the budget. > I'd be more willing to consider voting for a contract that was already > written--and more like a 25% commission. > I'm comfortable if our Chairman wants to develop a proposal with Mr. > Mouser > and present that for a vote. > I think the effort is likely to be unsuccessful. I've seen several people > around the U.S. volunteer to raise funds for commissions, then not raise > much because it was much harder than they imagined. > > However, I am glad our Chairman thought about this, took the initiative > and > made the proposal. It has put a bit of pressure on the finance committee > and > others to deliver. > > I spoke with Guy McLendon of Lake Charles last night. He's one of the > three > of us on the finance committee. I believe he feels confident he can raise > a > few thousand, and I can raise a few thousand, over the next three to four > months. > The finance committee will raise funds as volunteers with no commission. > > I'd like to see other board members, in addition to Mr. Ebarb, try to > raise > $300 or $1,000 from others. > > Perhaps even Mr. Mouser, as a volunteer, could raise $1,000 or $2,000 from > sources he's aware of. > > I'm not dead set against our Chairman's proposal and will not be upset if > it > passes against my recommendation. > > However, I recommend giving the finance committee and the rest of the > board > a few months to pass or fail before paying someone to do this. > > With our Chairman's permission, I'd like to forward this email to Guy > McLendon. > > --Wes Benedict - Finance Officer > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > 512-659-8896 > > > Adrien Monteleone wrote, On 1/30/2013 11:12 AM: > > Thank you Wes, > > Yes, the intention was to move the workload to a fundraiser and off of the > Secretary/Treasurer and ED. Though we might set the Finance Chair as the > person "in charge" of the fundraiser since that is more within their > purview. We could however, do the same as with the ED and simply put both > under the Chair's direction. > > Ms. Adams has indicated to me she is not very good with asking people for > money. She's doing a heck of a job in nearly every other task we have her > doing. She's great at coordinating and getting people involved, but > asking > for money is not her strong suite. > > Vinson is experienced doing so and has raised quite a bit in the past. As > Chair, he kept the party financed on his own fundraising efforts without > outside assistance, and as Campaign Manager for Lee Horne, raised several > tens of thousands. > > Reed is of course the party Secretary and acting Treasurer. Neither is > officially a fundraiser, and both positions have plenty of other duties. > His non-LPL life is keeping him very busy right now, and I'd like to > continue the trend of bringing new people on board and spreading duties > around than to continue to shovel things one person's way. Just as we > know > and have seen that recruiting members and activists is itself a full time > position, so is raising money. Thus I believe we should make a similar > move > and bring on a fundraiser. > > I don't think Wendy alone or even with the efforts of Mr. Ebarb continuing > to pull in what they are pulling in, are going to get us to 20,400 in > revenue. There would have to be a significant increase in the level of > fundraising activity to do so. > > From what I've gathered in conversation with others, though I will have to > verify, is that we would offer somewhere between 35% and 50% as > compensation. I think 50% is standard fare, but I could be wrong. > > At 35%, we'd need Vinson to raise $31,385 or so in the year. He would be > paid ? $10,985. I'm not sure he'd work for that amount unless he could > pull > off those numbers part time. > > He'd like a full-time position. My guess would be he would need 50%, > which > if we were to net $20,400, would mean he would raise $40,800 and keep > half. > Even then, I'm not sure if that is enough for him, but he would be in > control of that by his efforts. If we went with 35%, he'd have to raise > $75k-$90k to make it worth it to him to quite his day job. (which he is > willing to do if the money is right) > > That should cover the main part of the terms. I'm still looking for > example > contracts for the ancillary stuff that goes along with the position. > > Yes, we would likely have to amend the budget at some point, though even > if > we were to hire him this week (I doubt it) I think we'd be okay till the > April meeting. > > The budget after all, is just a model or target, it isn't a hard and fast > "law" or "rule" we have to follow short of a vote to amend it. So if the > money is coming in, then I don't think it matters if we are paying him > some > of it that wasn't set aside in the budget. He's raising it himself. The > goal for this position is to free up other people to focus on their core > tasks, especially the ED. Once someone is 'activated' by the ED then the > fundraiser can go into action, hitting them up for money and soliciting > monthly pledges, and special project donations. Certainly, she'll still > have to try to get people to sign up as members, but she can spend more of > her time on logistical stuff and leave the bulk of the money raising to > Vinson. > > We don't really need to amend the budget, beyond adding in to both the > revenue and expense side, the amount of his compensation. Since he's > getting it as a percentage of whatever he raises, then revenues would > increase by a corresponding amount to any incurred expenses for hiring > him. > > Thus on a 50% model, Total revenues would now be $40,800 and we'd add > $20.400 as a new Fundraising Expense item, or place it under "staff" or > whatever line item that was. When I discuss this with him, I'll work on > what > our target goal should be and we can use that to amend the budget. > > > > > > > > In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > On 1/30/13 8:53 AM, Wes Benedict wrote: > > I'm not against the concept of hiring a fundraiser, but I'd like to know > more about what you have in mind and how it would affect finances before > voting on the issue. > > At our January Shreveport meeting, I believe we passed a budget with > Revenue > of $20,400 and Expenses of $18,600. (Please correct me if my numbers are > wrong--whatever ends up in the Secretary's minutes are the official > numbers.) > > I'd like to ask the Chairman how he foresees the budget being affected and > if he thinks the Board of Directors would need to vote to amend the budget > in order to implement a contract with Mr. Mouser. > > For example, if we foresee Mr. Mouser raising $10,000 and being paid 25%, > or > $2,500, then perhaps we would not need to amend the Revenue portion of the > budget, but might need to add a Fundraising Expenses budget item of > $2,500. > > If we hire a fundraiser, perhaps that would take some of the workload off > of > Mr. Ebarb, Ms. Adams, and the finance committee so they could work on > other > things. > > --Wes Benedict > Finance Officer > 512-659-8896 > > Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors wrote, On 1/29/2013 12:17 PM: > > To all, > > We had discussed at our October meeting the possibility of taking on > Vinson > Mouser(former Chairman for the new folks), or someone else, as LPL > fundraiser. > > My apologies for not including it in January's agenda. > > Considering the new contract we've offered Wendy, and the funding goals > set > by the SPC, we will need some major effort to bring money into the party. > > I suggest we take up the issue ASAP. > > I'll get the ball rolling with this then: > > Motion - > > That the chairman is authorized to negotiate and offer a contract for > fundraising with Vinson Mouser for the remainder of 2013. > > > Please submit your votes, and or discussion as soon as possible so we can > get moving on this. > > > > > > > -- > In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > If you have not already done so, please consider becoming a dues member of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana by visiting louisianalibertarian.net From chairman at lplouisiana.org Thu Jan 31 17:53:52 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 17:53:52 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - Fundraiser position In-Reply-To: <510AE620.1060009@lplouisiana.org> References: <510933DD.30303@lplouisiana.org> <51095461.1080905@lplouisiana.org> <510A96D8.2050709@lplouisiana.org> <510AC06B.4040403@lplouisiana.org> <510AE620.1060009@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <510B0410.1000503@lplouisiana.org> If there is no objection then, I withdraw my motion. Though it had the votes to pass as is, I would prefer if there were more agreement on the question. And please note, I am not doing this to push anyone to step aside from their current positions. Regardless of if we have a fundraiser or not, we still need a Finance chair. The position has many hats, as does the committee. Most important of these in this regard is oversight of party fundraising activities, which would include oversight of a hired fundraiser. I will speak with Vinson some more, and set up an interview and formal vote at the April meeting. In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 1/31/13 3:46 PM, Wes Benedict wrote: > Thank you for adding Guy to the discussion. > > At this point, it sounds to me like you just want to start discussing and > negotiating a proposal with Mr. Mouser. > I don't think you need this motion to discuss and start negotiations on a > proposal with Mr. Mouser. > I just think you would need a motion approved by the board to sign and enter > into a contract with Mr. Mouser. > Since you are talking about an April time frame, that gives plenty of time > for the Finance Committee (me in particular) to put up or move out of the way. > > I think it would be appropriate, if the chair wanted, and no one else > objected, to withdraw his motion, and continue his non-binding discussions > with Mr. Mouser, with the board expecting a possible proposal to be > considered at the April meeting. > > --Wes Benedict > > > Adrien Monteleone wrote, On 1/31/2013 1:05 PM: >> Thank you Wes, >> >> Vote Received. >> >> >> As with Mr. Ebarb, I will attempt to address your concerns. Some appear to >> be the same, so please refer to that reply as well. >> >> I have no intention of having a signed contract in place without the >> Board's knowing what is in the contract. I'm not asking for approval of an >> unwritten document. Perhaps the amendment I suggested to Mr. Ebarb would >> address that concern as a clarification. >> >> As for the commission level, that of course is negotiable, but recall, it >> is not an expense on our part per se. We would not be paying unless the >> money was raised, thus there is no real impact on the budget. Both sides >> of the equation increase accordingly. No negative net change to our cash >> assets occurs. >> >> As for the likely success of the contract, all I can say is if no one was >> any good at it, the other parties wouldn't be raising billions. To be sure, >> Mr. Mouser is not a professional. But I would like to attempt to offer him >> the opportunity to put his skills and experience to use. And as a former >> chairman, who has already performed this service for the party, and is >> known to many members with whom we have lost contact with, I would think he >> would stand the best chance of success that a non-professional possibly >> could have. >> >> I see it like this: we can raise only so much on our own dime and time. >> He is a former activist, chair, and fundraiser for the party. He will >> either be able to raise more funds than we can, or he cannot. If he >> cannot, then my next consideration would be to hire a professional firm or >> individual with no ties to the party. >> >> There is lots of work to do in this party. Wendy is doing some, and could >> and would like to do more. As it is, we raised her pay, gave her some >> security with a year long term, and extended some compensation for personal >> expenses incurred on behalf of the party. She's agreed to the contract >> because she believes in the party and in the work she is doing. But the >> amount we can afford right now is woefully inadequate. (it comes to $6.25 >> per hour, assuming only 40 hours a week worked) >> >> If we are to be serious about advancing the party, our candidates, and >> making an impact in elections, we need to ramp this up much bigger than >> where we are now. We can't do it all at once, but I consider this a >> crucial step in getting there. >> >> We will need additional staff, and we will need an office. That alone will >> necessitate hiring a fundraiser. Being able to pay our Executive Director >> enough so that she doesn't have to work a second job and can focus all of >> her time on the LPL also necessitates hiring a fundraiser. I would like to >> see one in place no later than April. >> >> In conclusion, paired with the suggested amendment, and an April time frame >> for formalizing this contract and position, and for those who haven't, >> getting a chance to meet Mr. Mouser, I think that will be sufficient time >> to judge our own efforts with respect to Mr. Ebarb's letters, and the >> Finance Committee's activities. >> >> I've added Mr. McLendon to the conversation, though of course, only Board >> members can vote. >> >> You mentioned a 3rd member on the Finance Committee? Feel free to include >> them as well for their opinions on the matter. >> >> In Liberty, >> >> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >> On 1/31/13 10:07 AM, Wes Benedict wrote: >>> I am voting nay on this. >>> >>> I'm uneasy approving a contract without knowing what's in it on something >>> that would have a large impact on the budget. >>> I'd be more willing to consider voting for a contract that was already >>> written--and more like a 25% commission. >>> I'm comfortable if our Chairman wants to develop a proposal with Mr. >>> Mouser and present that for a vote. >>> I think the effort is likely to be unsuccessful. I've seen several people >>> around the U.S. volunteer to raise funds for commissions, then not raise >>> much because it was much harder than they imagined. >>> >>> However, I am glad our Chairman thought about this, took the initiative >>> and made the proposal. It has put a bit of pressure on the finance >>> committee and others to deliver. >>> >>> I spoke with Guy McLendon of Lake Charles last night. He's one of the >>> three of us on the finance committee. I believe he feels confident he can >>> raise a few thousand, and I can raise a few thousand, over the next three >>> to four months. >>> The finance committee will raise funds as volunteers with no commission. >>> >>> I'd like to see other board members, in addition to Mr. Ebarb, try to >>> raise $300 or $1,000 from others. >>> >>> Perhaps even Mr. Mouser, as a volunteer, could raise $1,000 or $2,000 from >>> sources he's aware of. >>> >>> I'm not dead set against our Chairman's proposal and will not be upset if >>> it passes against my recommendation. >>> >>> However, I recommend giving the finance committee and the rest of the >>> board a few months to pass or fail before paying someone to do this. >>> >>> With our Chairman's permission, I'd like to forward this email to Guy >>> McLendon. >>> >>> --Wes Benedict - Finance Officer >>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>> 512-659-8896 >>> >>> >>> Adrien Monteleone wrote, On 1/30/2013 11:12 AM: >>>> Thank you Wes, >>>> >>>> Yes, the intention was to move the workload to a fundraiser and off of >>>> the Secretary/Treasurer and ED. Though we might set the Finance Chair as >>>> the person "in charge" of the fundraiser since that is more within their >>>> purview. We could however, do the same as with the ED and simply put >>>> both under the Chair's direction. >>>> >>>> Ms. Adams has indicated to me she is not very good with asking people for >>>> money. She's doing a heck of a job in nearly every other task we have >>>> her doing. She's great at coordinating and getting people involved, but >>>> asking for money is not her strong suite. >>>> >>>> Vinson is experienced doing so and has raised quite a bit in the past. >>>> As Chair, he kept the party financed on his own fundraising efforts >>>> without outside assistance, and as Campaign Manager for Lee Horne, raised >>>> several tens of thousands. >>>> >>>> Reed is of course the party Secretary and acting Treasurer. Neither is >>>> officially a fundraiser, and both positions have plenty of other duties. >>>> His non-LPL life is keeping him very busy right now, and I'd like to >>>> continue the trend of bringing new people on board and spreading duties >>>> around than to continue to shovel things one person's way. Just as we >>>> know and have seen that recruiting members and activists is itself a full >>>> time position, so is raising money. Thus I believe we should make a >>>> similar move and bring on a fundraiser. >>>> >>>> I don't think Wendy alone or even with the efforts of Mr. Ebarb >>>> continuing to pull in what they are pulling in, are going to get us to >>>> 20,400 in revenue. There would have to be a significant increase in the >>>> level of fundraising activity to do so. >>>> >>>> From what I've gathered in conversation with others, though I will have >>>> to verify, is that we would offer somewhere between 35% and 50% as >>>> compensation. I think 50% is standard fare, but I could be wrong. >>>> >>>> At 35%, we'd need Vinson to raise $31,385 or so in the year. He would be >>>> paid ? $10,985. I'm not sure he'd work for that amount unless he could >>>> pull off those numbers part time. >>>> >>>> He'd like a full-time position. My guess would be he would need 50%, >>>> which if we were to net $20,400, would mean he would raise $40,800 and >>>> keep half. Even then, I'm not sure if that is enough for him, but he >>>> would be in control of that by his efforts. If we went with 35%, he'd >>>> have to raise $75k-$90k to make it worth it to him to quite his day job. >>>> (which he is willing to do if the money is right) >>>> >>>> That should cover the main part of the terms. I'm still looking for >>>> example contracts for the ancillary stuff that goes along with the position. >>>> >>>> Yes, we would likely have to amend the budget at some point, though even >>>> if we were to hire him this week (I doubt it) I think we'd be okay till >>>> the April meeting. >>>> >>>> The budget after all, is just a model or target, it isn't a hard and fast >>>> "law" or "rule" we have to follow short of a vote to amend it. So if the >>>> money is coming in, then I don't think it matters if we are paying him >>>> some of it that wasn't set aside in the budget. He's raising it himself. >>>> The goal for this position is to free up other people to focus on their >>>> core tasks, especially the ED. Once someone is 'activated' by the ED >>>> then the fundraiser can go into action, hitting them up for money and >>>> soliciting monthly pledges, and special project donations. Certainly, >>>> she'll still have to try to get people to sign up as members, but she can >>>> spend more of her time on logistical stuff and leave the bulk of the >>>> money raising to Vinson. >>>> >>>> We don't really need to amend the budget, beyond adding in to both the >>>> revenue and expense side, the amount of his compensation. Since he's >>>> getting it as a percentage of whatever he raises, then revenues would >>>> increase by a corresponding amount to any incurred expenses for hiring him. >>>> >>>> Thus on a 50% model, Total revenues would now be $40,800 and we'd add >>>> $20.400 as a new Fundraising Expense item, or place it under "staff" or >>>> whatever line item that was. When I discuss this with him, I'll work on >>>> what our target goal should be and we can use that to amend the budget. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> In Liberty, >>>> >>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>> On 1/30/13 8:53 AM, Wes Benedict wrote: >>>>> I'm not against the concept of hiring a fundraiser, but I'd like to know >>>>> more about what you have in mind and how it would affect finances before >>>>> voting on the issue. >>>>> >>>>> At our January Shreveport meeting, I believe we passed a budget with >>>>> Revenue of $20,400 and Expenses of $18,600. (Please correct me if my >>>>> numbers are wrong--whatever ends up in the Secretary's minutes are the >>>>> official numbers.) >>>>> >>>>> I'd like to ask the Chairman how he foresees the budget being affected >>>>> and if he thinks the Board of Directors would need to vote to amend the >>>>> budget in order to implement a contract with Mr. Mouser. >>>>> >>>>> For example, if we foresee Mr. Mouser raising $10,000 and being paid >>>>> 25%, or $2,500, then perhaps we would not need to amend the Revenue >>>>> portion of the budget, but might need to add a Fundraising Expenses >>>>> budget item of $2,500. >>>>> >>>>> If we hire a fundraiser, perhaps that would take some of the workload >>>>> off of Mr. Ebarb, Ms. Adams, and the finance committee so they could >>>>> work on other things. >>>>> >>>>> --Wes Benedict >>>>> Finance Officer >>>>> 512-659-8896 >>>>> >>>>> Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors wrote, On 1/29/2013 12:17 PM: >>>>>> To all, >>>>>> >>>>>> We had discussed at our October meeting the possibility of taking on >>>>>> Vinson Mouser(former Chairman for the new folks), or someone else, as >>>>>> LPL fundraiser. >>>>>> >>>>>> My apologies for not including it in January's agenda. >>>>>> >>>>>> Considering the new contract we've offered Wendy, and the funding goals >>>>>> set by the SPC, we will need some major effort to bring money into the >>>>>> party. >>>>>> >>>>>> I suggest we take up the issue ASAP. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'll get the ball rolling with this then: >>>>>> >>>>>> Motion - >>>>>> >>>>>> That the chairman is authorized to negotiate and offer a contract for >>>>>> fundraising with Vinson Mouser for the remainder of 2013. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Please submit your votes, and or discussion as soon as possible so we >>>>>> can get moving on this. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> In Liberty, >>>>>> >>>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SCC mailing list >>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SCC mailing list >>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks for leading this effort! --------------------------- Howard Kearney Membership From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of Adrien Monteleone Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 5:54 PM To: scc at lplouisiana.org Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - Fundraiser position If there is no objection then, I withdraw my motion. Though it had the votes to pass as is, I would prefer if there were more agreement on the question. And please note, I am not doing this to push anyone to step aside from their current positions. Regardless of if we have a fundraiser or not, we still need a Finance chair. The position has many hats, as does the committee. Most important of these in this regard is oversight of party fundraising activities, which would include oversight of a hired fundraiser. I will speak with Vinson some more, and set up an interview and formal vote at the April meeting. In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 1/31/13 3:46 PM, Wes Benedict wrote: Thank you for adding Guy to the discussion. At this point, it sounds to me like you just want to start discussing and negotiating a proposal with Mr. Mouser. I don't think you need this motion to discuss and start negotiations on a proposal with Mr. Mouser. I just think you would need a motion approved by the board to sign and enter into a contract with Mr. Mouser. Since you are talking about an April time frame, that gives plenty of time for the Finance Committee (me in particular) to put up or move out of the way. I think it would be appropriate, if the chair wanted, and no one else objected, to withdraw his motion, and continue his non-binding discussions with Mr. Mouser, with the board expecting a possible proposal to be considered at the April meeting. --Wes Benedict Adrien Monteleone wrote, On 1/31/2013 1:05 PM: Thank you Wes, Vote Received. As with Mr. Ebarb, I will attempt to address your concerns. Some appear to be the same, so please refer to that reply as well. I have no intention of having a signed contract in place without the Board's knowing what is in the contract. I'm not asking for approval of an unwritten document. Perhaps the amendment I suggested to Mr. Ebarb would address that concern as a clarification. As for the commission level, that of course is negotiable, but recall, it is not an expense on our part per se. We would not be paying unless the money was raised, thus there is no real impact on the budget. Both sides of the equation increase accordingly. No negative net change to our cash assets occurs. As for the likely success of the contract, all I can say is if no one was any good at it, the other parties wouldn't be raising billions. To be sure, Mr. Mouser is not a professional. But I would like to attempt to offer him the opportunity to put his skills and experience to use. And as a former chairman, who has already performed this service for the party, and is known to many members with whom we have lost contact with, I would think he would stand the best chance of success that a non-professional possibly could have. I see it like this: we can raise only so much on our own dime and time. He is a former activist, chair, and fundraiser for the party. He will either be able to raise more funds than we can, or he cannot. If he cannot, then my next consideration would be to hire a professional firm or individual with no ties to the party. There is lots of work to do in this party. Wendy is doing some, and could and would like to do more. As it is, we raised her pay, gave her some security with a year long term, and extended some compensation for personal expenses incurred on behalf of the party. She's agreed to the contract because she believes in the party and in the work she is doing. But the amount we can afford right now is woefully inadequate. (it comes to $6.25 per hour, assuming only 40 hours a week worked) If we are to be serious about advancing the party, our candidates, and making an impact in elections, we need to ramp this up much bigger than where we are now. We can't do it all at once, but I consider this a crucial step in getting there. We will need additional staff, and we will need an office. That alone will necessitate hiring a fundraiser. Being able to pay our Executive Director enough so that she doesn't have to work a second job and can focus all of her time on the LPL also necessitates hiring a fundraiser. I would like to see one in place no later than April. In conclusion, paired with the suggested amendment, and an April time frame for formalizing this contract and position, and for those who haven't, getting a chance to meet Mr. Mouser, I think that will be sufficient time to judge our own efforts with respect to Mr. Ebarb's letters, and the Finance Committee's activities. I've added Mr. McLendon to the conversation, though of course, only Board members can vote. You mentioned a 3rd member on the Finance Committee? Feel free to include them as well for their opinions on the matter. In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 1/31/13 10:07 AM, Wes Benedict wrote: I am voting nay on this. I'm uneasy approving a contract without knowing what's in it on something that would have a large impact on the budget. I'd be more willing to consider voting for a contract that was already written--and more like a 25% commission. I'm comfortable if our Chairman wants to develop a proposal with Mr. Mouser and present that for a vote. I think the effort is likely to be unsuccessful. I've seen several people around the U.S. volunteer to raise funds for commissions, then not raise much because it was much harder than they imagined. However, I am glad our Chairman thought about this, took the initiative and made the proposal. It has put a bit of pressure on the finance committee and others to deliver. I spoke with Guy McLendon of Lake Charles last night. He's one of the three of us on the finance committee. I believe he feels confident he can raise a few thousand, and I can raise a few thousand, over the next three to four months. The finance committee will raise funds as volunteers with no commission. I'd like to see other board members, in addition to Mr. Ebarb, try to raise $300 or $1,000 from others. Perhaps even Mr. Mouser, as a volunteer, could raise $1,000 or $2,000 from sources he's aware of. I'm not dead set against our Chairman's proposal and will not be upset if it passes against my recommendation. However, I recommend giving the finance committee and the rest of the board a few months to pass or fail before paying someone to do this. With our Chairman's permission, I'd like to forward this email to Guy McLendon. --Wes Benedict - Finance Officer Libertarian Party of Louisiana 512-659-8896 Adrien Monteleone wrote, On 1/30/2013 11:12 AM: Thank you Wes, Yes, the intention was to move the workload to a fundraiser and off of the Secretary/Treasurer and ED. Though we might set the Finance Chair as the person "in charge" of the fundraiser since that is more within their purview. We could however, do the same as with the ED and simply put both under the Chair's direction. Ms. Adams has indicated to me she is not very good with asking people for money. She's doing a heck of a job in nearly every other task we have her doing. She's great at coordinating and getting people involved, but asking for money is not her strong suite. Vinson is experienced doing so and has raised quite a bit in the past. As Chair, he kept the party financed on his own fundraising efforts without outside assistance, and as Campaign Manager for Lee Horne, raised several tens of thousands. Reed is of course the party Secretary and acting Treasurer. Neither is officially a fundraiser, and both positions have plenty of other duties. His non-LPL life is keeping him very busy right now, and I'd like to continue the trend of bringing new people on board and spreading duties around than to continue to shovel things one person's way. Just as we know and have seen that recruiting members and activists is itself a full time position, so is raising money. Thus I believe we should make a similar move and bring on a fundraiser. I don't think Wendy alone or even with the efforts of Mr. Ebarb continuing to pull in what they are pulling in, are going to get us to 20,400 in revenue. There would have to be a significant increase in the level of fundraising activity to do so. >From what I've gathered in conversation with others, though I will have to verify, is that we would offer somewhere between 35% and 50% as compensation. I think 50% is standard fare, but I could be wrong. At 35%, we'd need Vinson to raise $31,385 or so in the year. He would be paid ? $10,985. I'm not sure he'd work for that amount unless he could pull off those numbers part time. He'd like a full-time position. My guess would be he would need 50%, which if we were to net $20,400, would mean he would raise $40,800 and keep half. Even then, I'm not sure if that is enough for him, but he would be in control of that by his efforts. If we went with 35%, he'd have to raise $75k-$90k to make it worth it to him to quite his day job. (which he is willing to do if the money is right) That should cover the main part of the terms. I'm still looking for example contracts for the ancillary stuff that goes along with the position. Yes, we would likely have to amend the budget at some point, though even if we were to hire him this week (I doubt it) I think we'd be okay till the April meeting. The budget after all, is just a model or target, it isn't a hard and fast "law" or "rule" we have to follow short of a vote to amend it. So if the money is coming in, then I don't think it matters if we are paying him some of it that wasn't set aside in the budget. He's raising it himself. The goal for this position is to free up other people to focus on their core tasks, especially the ED. Once someone is 'activated' by the ED then the fundraiser can go into action, hitting them up for money and soliciting monthly pledges, and special project donations. Certainly, she'll still have to try to get people to sign up as members, but she can spend more of her time on logistical stuff and leave the bulk of the money raising to Vinson. We don't really need to amend the budget, beyond adding in to both the revenue and expense side, the amount of his compensation. Since he's getting it as a percentage of whatever he raises, then revenues would increase by a corresponding amount to any incurred expenses for hiring him. Thus on a 50% model, Total revenues would now be $40,800 and we'd add $20.400 as a new Fundraising Expense item, or place it under "staff" or whatever line item that was. When I discuss this with him, I'll work on what our target goal should be and we can use that to amend the budget. In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 1/30/13 8:53 AM, Wes Benedict wrote: I'm not against the concept of hiring a fundraiser, but I'd like to know more about what you have in mind and how it would affect finances before voting on the issue. At our January Shreveport meeting, I believe we passed a budget with Revenue of $20,400 and Expenses of $18,600. (Please correct me if my numbers are wrong--whatever ends up in the Secretary's minutes are the official numbers.) I'd like to ask the Chairman how he foresees the budget being affected and if he thinks the Board of Directors would need to vote to amend the budget in order to implement a contract with Mr. Mouser. For example, if we foresee Mr. Mouser raising $10,000 and being paid 25%, or $2,500, then perhaps we would not need to amend the Revenue portion of the budget, but might need to add a Fundraising Expenses budget item of $2,500. If we hire a fundraiser, perhaps that would take some of the workload off of Mr. Ebarb, Ms. Adams, and the finance committee so they could work on other things. --Wes Benedict Finance Officer 512-659-8896 Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors wrote, On 1/29/2013 12:17 PM: To all, We had discussed at our October meeting the possibility of taking on Vinson Mouser(former Chairman for the new folks), or someone else, as LPL fundraiser. My apologies for not including it in January's agenda. Considering the new contract we've offered Wendy, and the funding goals set by the SPC, we will need some major effort to bring money into the party. I suggest we take up the issue ASAP. I'll get the ball rolling with this then: Motion - That the chairman is authorized to negotiate and offer a contract for fundraising with Vinson Mouser for the remainder of 2013. Please submit your votes, and or discussion as soon as possible so we can get moving on this. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From boydw.smith at yahoo.com Thu Jan 31 19:26:26 2013 From: boydw.smith at yahoo.com (Boyd Smith) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 17:26:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - Fundraiser position In-Reply-To: <510B0410.1000503@lplouisiana.org> References: <510933DD.30303@lplouisiana.org> <51095461.1080905@lplouisiana.org> <510A96D8.2050709@lplouisiana.org> <510AC06B.4040403@lplouisiana.org> <510AE620.1060009@lplouisiana.org> <510B0410.1000503@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <1359681986.62311.YahooMailNeo@web161904.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I am ok with that. ? bws From: Adrien Monteleone To: scc at lplouisiana.org Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - Fundraiser position If there is no objection then, I withdraw my motion. Though it had the votes to pass as is, I would prefer if there were more agreement on the question. And please note, I am not doing this to push anyone to step aside from their current positions. Regardless of if we have a fundraiser or not, we still need a Finance chair.? The position has many hats, as does the committee.? Most important of these in this regard is oversight of party fundraising activities, which would include oversight of a hired fundraiser. I will speak with Vinson some more, and set up an interview and formal vote at the April meeting. In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 1/31/13 3:46 PM, Wes Benedict wrote: Thank you for adding Guy to the discussion. > >At this point, it sounds to me like you just want to start discussing and negotiating a proposal with Mr. Mouser. >I don't think you need this motion to discuss and start negotiations on a proposal with Mr. Mouser. >I just think you would need a motion approved by the board to sign and enter into a contract with Mr. Mouser. >Since you are talking about an April time frame, that gives plenty of time for the Finance Committee (me in particular) to put up or move out of the way. > >I think it would be appropriate, if the chair wanted, and no one else objected, to withdraw his motion, and continue his non-binding discussions with Mr. Mouser, with the board expecting a possible proposal to be considered at the April meeting. > >--Wes Benedict > > >Adrien Monteleone wrote, On 1/31/2013 1:05 PM: > >Thank you Wes, >> >>Vote Received. >> >> >>As with Mr. Ebarb, I will attempt to address your concerns. Some appear to be the same, so please refer to that reply as well. >> >>I have no intention of having a signed contract in place without the Board's knowing what is in the contract.? I'm not asking for approval of an unwritten document.? Perhaps the amendment I suggested to Mr. Ebarb would address that concern as a clarification. >> >>As for the commission level, that of course is negotiable, but recall, it is not an expense on our part per se.? We would not be paying unless the money was raised, thus there is no real impact on the budget.? Both sides of the equation increase accordingly. No negative net change to our cash assets occurs. >> >>As for the likely success of the contract, all I can say is if no one was any good at it, the other parties wouldn't be raising billions. To be sure, Mr. Mouser is not a professional.? But I would like to attempt to offer him the opportunity to put his skills and experience to use. And as a former chairman, who has already performed this service for the party, and is known to many members with whom we have lost contact with, I would think he would stand the best chance of success that a non-professional possibly could have. >> >>I see it like this:? we can raise only so much on our own dime and time.? He is a former activist, chair, and fundraiser for the party.? He will either be able to raise more funds than we can, or he cannot.? If he cannot, then my next consideration would be to hire a professional firm or individual with no ties to the party. >> >>There is lots of work to do in this party.? Wendy is doing some, and could and would like to do more.? As it is, we raised her pay, gave her some security with a year long term, and extended some compensation for personal expenses incurred on behalf of the party.? She's agreed to the contract because she believes in the party and in the work she is doing.? But the amount we can afford right now is woefully inadequate.? (it comes to $6.25 per hour, assuming only 40 hours a week worked) >> >>If we are to be serious about advancing the party, our candidates, and making an impact in elections, we need to ramp this up much bigger than where we are now.? We can't do it all at once, but I consider this a crucial step in getting there. >> >>We will need additional staff, and we will need an office.? That alone will necessitate hiring a fundraiser.? Being able to pay our Executive Director enough so that she doesn't have to work a second job and can focus all of her time on the LPL also necessitates hiring a fundraiser.? I would like to see one in place no later than April. >> >>In conclusion, paired with the suggested amendment, and an April time frame for formalizing this contract and position, and for those who haven't, getting a chance to meet Mr. Mouser, I think that will be sufficient time to judge our own efforts with respect to Mr. Ebarb's letters, and the Finance Committee's activities. >> >>I've added Mr. McLendon to the conversation, though of course, only Board members can vote. >> >>You mentioned a 3rd member on the Finance Committee?? Feel free to include them as well for their opinions on the matter. >> >> >>In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 1/31/13 10:07 AM, Wes Benedict wrote: >> >>I am voting nay on this. >>> >>>I'm uneasy approving a contract without knowing what's in it on something that would have a large impact on the budget. >>>I'd be more willing to consider voting for a contract that was already written--and more like a 25% commission. >>>I'm comfortable if our Chairman wants to develop a proposal with Mr. Mouser and present that for a vote. >>>I think the effort is likely to be unsuccessful. I've seen several people around the U.S. volunteer to raise funds for commissions, then not raise much because it was much harder than they imagined. >>> >>>However, I am glad our Chairman thought about this, took the initiative and made the proposal. It has put a bit of pressure on the finance committee and others to deliver. >>> >>>I spoke with Guy McLendon of Lake Charles last night. He's one of the three of us on the finance committee. I believe he feels confident he can raise a few thousand, and I can raise a few thousand, over the next three to four months. >>>The finance committee will raise funds as volunteers with no commission. >>> >>>I'd like to see other board members, in addition to Mr. Ebarb, try to raise $300 or $1,000 from others. >>> >>>Perhaps even Mr. Mouser, as a volunteer, could raise $1,000 or $2,000 from sources he's aware of. >>> >>>I'm not dead set against our Chairman's proposal and will not be upset if it passes against my recommendation. >>> >>>However, I recommend giving the finance committee and the rest of the board a few months to pass or fail before paying someone to do this. >>> >>>With our Chairman's permission, I'd like to forward this email to Guy McLendon. >>> >>>--Wes Benedict - Finance Officer >>>Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>512-659-8896 >>> >>> >>>Adrien Monteleone wrote, On 1/30/2013 11:12 AM: >>> >>>Thank you Wes, >>>> >>>>Yes, the intention was to move the workload to a fundraiser and off of the Secretary/Treasurer and ED.? Though we might set the Finance Chair as the person "in charge" of the fundraiser since that is more within their purview.? We could however, do the same as with the ED and simply put both under the Chair's direction. >>>> >>>>Ms. Adams has indicated to me she is not very good with asking people for money.? She's doing a heck of a job in nearly every other task we have her doing.? She's great at coordinating and getting people involved, but asking for money is not her strong suite. >>>> >>>>Vinson is experienced doing so and has raised quite a bit in the past.? As Chair, he kept the party financed on his own fundraising efforts without outside assistance, and as Campaign Manager for Lee Horne, raised several tens of thousands. >>>> >>>>Reed is of course the party Secretary and acting Treasurer.? Neither is officially a fundraiser, and both positions have plenty of other duties.? His non-LPL life is keeping him very busy right now, and I'd like to continue the trend of bringing new people on board and spreading duties around than to continue to shovel things one person's way.? Just as we know and have seen that recruiting members and activists is itself a full time position, so is raising money.? Thus I believe we should make a similar move and bring on a fundraiser. >>>> >>>>I don't think Wendy alone or even with the efforts of Mr. Ebarb continuing to pull in what they are pulling in, are going to get us to 20,400 in revenue.? There would have to be a significant increase in the level of fundraising activity to do so. >>>> >>>>From what I've gathered in conversation with others, though I will have to verify, is that we would offer somewhere between 35% and 50% as compensation.? I think 50% is standard fare, but I could be wrong. >>>> >>>>At 35%, we'd need Vinson to raise $31,385 or so in the year.? He would be paid ? $10,985.? I'm not sure he'd work for that amount unless he could pull off those numbers part time. >>>> >>>>He'd like a full-time position.? My guess would be he would need 50%, which if we were to net $20,400, would mean he would raise $40,800 and keep half.? Even then, I'm not sure if that is enough for him, but he would be in control of that by his efforts.? If we went with 35%, he'd have to raise $75k-$90k to make it worth it to him to quite his day job. (which he is willing to do if the money is right) >>>> >>>>That should cover the main part of the terms.? I'm still looking for example contracts for the ancillary stuff that goes along with the position. >>>> >>>>Yes, we would likely have to amend the budget at some point, though even if we were to hire him this week (I doubt it) I think we'd be okay till the April meeting. >>>> >>>>The budget after all, is just a model or target, it isn't a hard and fast "law" or "rule" we have to follow short of a vote to amend it. So if the money is coming in, then I don't think it matters if we are paying him some of it that wasn't set aside in the budget.? He's raising it himself. The goal for this position is to free up other people to focus on their core tasks, especially the ED.? Once someone is 'activated' by the ED then the fundraiser can go into action, hitting them up for money and soliciting monthly pledges, and special project donations.? Certainly, she'll still have to try to get people to sign up as members, but she can spend more of her time on logistical stuff and leave the bulk of the money raising to Vinson. >>>> >>>>We don't really need to amend the budget, beyond adding in to both the revenue and expense side, the amount of his compensation.? Since he's getting it as a percentage of whatever he raises, then revenues would increase by a corresponding amount to any incurred expenses for hiring him. >>>> >>>>Thus on a 50% model, Total revenues would now be $40,800 and we'd add $20.400 as a new Fundraising Expense item, or place it under "staff" or whatever line item that was. When I discuss this with him, I'll work on what our target goal should be and we can use that to amend the budget. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 1/30/13 8:53 AM, Wes Benedict wrote: >>>> >>>>I'm not against the concept of hiring a fundraiser, but I'd like to know more about what you have in mind and how it would affect finances before voting on the issue. >>>>> >>>>>At our January Shreveport meeting, I believe we passed a budget with Revenue of $20,400 and Expenses of $18,600. (Please correct me if my numbers are wrong--whatever ends up in the Secretary's minutes are the official numbers.) >>>>> >>>>>I'd like to ask the Chairman how he foresees the budget being affected and if he thinks the Board of Directors would need to vote to amend the budget in order to implement a contract with Mr. Mouser. >>>>> >>>>>For example, if we foresee Mr. Mouser raising $10,000 and being paid 25%, or $2,500, then perhaps we would not need to amend the Revenue portion of the budget, but might need to add a Fundraising Expenses budget item of $2,500. >>>>> >>>>>If we hire a fundraiser, perhaps that would take some of the workload off of Mr. Ebarb, Ms. Adams, and the finance committee so they could work on other things. >>>>> >>>>>--Wes Benedict >>>>>Finance Officer >>>>>512-659-8896 >>>>> >>>>>Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors wrote, On 1/29/2013 12:17 PM: >>>>> >>>>>To all, >>>>>> >>>>>>We had discussed at our October meeting the possibility of taking on Vinson Mouser(former Chairman for the new folks), or someone else, as LPL fundraiser. >>>>>> >>>>>>My apologies for not including it in January's agenda. >>>>>> >>>>>>Considering the new contract we've offered Wendy, and the funding goals set by the SPC, we will need some major effort to bring money into the party. >>>>>> >>>>>>I suggest we take up the issue ASAP. >>>>>> >>>>>>I'll get the ball rolling with this then: >>>>>> >>>>>>Motion - >>>>>> >>>>>>That the chairman is authorized to negotiate and offer a contract for fundraising with Vinson Mouser for the remainder of 2013. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Please submit your votes, and or discussion as soon as possible so we can get moving on this. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>-- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>_______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>_______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>> >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > > >_______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Paladin at LPLouisiana.org Fri Feb 1 16:23:57 2013 From: Paladin at LPLouisiana.org (T Lee Horne III) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 17:23:57 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - Fundraiser position In-Reply-To: <1359681986.62311.YahooMailNeo@web161904.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <510933DD.30303@lplouisiana.org> <51095461.1080905@lplouisiana.org> <510A96D8.2050709@lplouisiana.org> <510AC06B.4040403@lplouisiana.org> <510AE620.1060009@lplouisiana.org> <510B0410.1000503@lplouisiana.org> <1359681986.62311.YahooMailNeo@web161904.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <004401ce00ca$d4825c70$7d871550$@org> I am in favor of finding the smoothest way forward. If the chairman finds this path, withdrawing the motion, acceptable procedure I am agreeable. If a motion is needed I so move. If a second is needed I second and vote for such motion. T Lee Horne, III Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 paladin at lplouisiana.org 318-542-4445 google voice tleehorneiii skype From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of Boyd Smith Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 8:26 PM To: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - Fundraiser position I am ok with that. bws From: Adrien Monteleone To: scc at lplouisiana.org Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - Fundraiser position If there is no objection then, I withdraw my motion. Though it had the votes to pass as is, I would prefer if there were more agreement on the question. And please note, I am not doing this to push anyone to step aside from their current positions. Regardless of if we have a fundraiser or not, we still need a Finance chair. The position has many hats, as does the committee. Most important of these in this regard is oversight of party fundraising activities, which would include oversight of a hired fundraiser. I will speak with Vinson some more, and set up an interview and formal vote at the April meeting. In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 1/31/13 3:46 PM, Wes Benedict wrote: Thank you for adding Guy to the discussion. At this point, it sounds to me like you just want to start discussing and negotiating a proposal with Mr. Mouser. I don't think you need this motion to discuss and start negotiations on a proposal with Mr. Mouser. I just think you would need a motion approved by the board to sign and enter into a contract with Mr. Mouser. Since you are talking about an April time frame, that gives plenty of time for the Finance Committee (me in particular) to put up or move out of the way. I think it would be appropriate, if the chair wanted, and no one else objected, to withdraw his motion, and continue his non-binding discussions with Mr. Mouser, with the board expecting a possible proposal to be considered at the April meeting. --Wes Benedict Adrien Monteleone wrote, On 1/31/2013 1:05 PM: Thank you Wes, Vote Received. As with Mr. Ebarb, I will attempt to address your concerns. Some appear to be the same, so please refer to that reply as well. I have no intention of having a signed contract in place without the Board's knowing what is in the contract. I'm not asking for approval of an unwritten document. Perhaps the amendment I suggested to Mr. Ebarb would address that concern as a clarification. As for the commission level, that of course is negotiable, but recall, it is not an expense on our part per se. We would not be paying unless the money was raised, thus there is no real impact on the budget. Both sides of the equation increase accordingly. No negative net change to our cash assets occurs. As for the likely success of the contract, all I can say is if no one was any good at it, the other parties wouldn't be raising billions. To be sure, Mr. Mouser is not a professional. But I would like to attempt to offer him the opportunity to put his skills and experience to use. And as a former chairman, who has already performed this service for the party, and is known to many members with whom we have lost contact with, I would think he would stand the best chance of success that a non-professional possibly could have. I see it like this: we can raise only so much on our own dime and time. He is a former activist, chair, and fundraiser for the party. He will either be able to raise more funds than we can, or he cannot. If he cannot, then my next consideration would be to hire a professional firm or individual with no ties to the party. There is lots of work to do in this party. Wendy is doing some, and could and would like to do more. As it is, we raised her pay, gave her some security with a year long term, and extended some compensation for personal expenses incurred on behalf of the party. She's agreed to the contract because she believes in the party and in the work she is doing. But the amount we can afford right now is woefully inadequate. (it comes to $6.25 per hour, assuming only 40 hours a week worked) If we are to be serious about advancing the party, our candidates, and making an impact in elections, we need to ramp this up much bigger than where we are now. We can't do it all at once, but I consider this a crucial step in getting there. We will need additional staff, and we will need an office. That alone will necessitate hiring a fundraiser. Being able to pay our Executive Director enough so that she doesn't have to work a second job and can focus all of her time on the LPL also necessitates hiring a fundraiser. I would like to see one in place no later than April. In conclusion, paired with the suggested amendment, and an April time frame for formalizing this contract and position, and for those who haven't, getting a chance to meet Mr. Mouser, I think that will be sufficient time to judge our own efforts with respect to Mr. Ebarb's letters, and the Finance Committee's activities. I've added Mr. McLendon to the conversation, though of course, only Board members can vote. You mentioned a 3rd member on the Finance Committee? Feel free to include them as well for their opinions on the matter. In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 1/31/13 10:07 AM, Wes Benedict wrote: I am voting nay on this. I'm uneasy approving a contract without knowing what's in it on something that would have a large impact on the budget. I'd be more willing to consider voting for a contract that was already written--and more like a 25% commission. I'm comfortable if our Chairman wants to develop a proposal with Mr. Mouser and present that for a vote. I think the effort is likely to be unsuccessful. I've seen several people around the U.S. volunteer to raise funds for commissions, then not raise much because it was much harder than they imagined. However, I am glad our Chairman thought about this, took the initiative and made the proposal. It has put a bit of pressure on the finance committee and others to deliver. I spoke with Guy McLendon of Lake Charles last night. He's one of the three of us on the finance committee. I believe he feels confident he can raise a few thousand, and I can raise a few thousand, over the next three to four months. The finance committee will raise funds as volunteers with no commission. I'd like to see other board members, in addition to Mr. Ebarb, try to raise $300 or $1,000 from others. Perhaps even Mr. Mouser, as a volunteer, could raise $1,000 or $2,000 from sources he's aware of. I'm not dead set against our Chairman's proposal and will not be upset if it passes against my recommendation. However, I recommend giving the finance committee and the rest of the board a few months to pass or fail before paying someone to do this. With our Chairman's permission, I'd like to forward this email to Guy McLendon. --Wes Benedict - Finance Officer Libertarian Party of Louisiana 512-659-8896 Adrien Monteleone wrote, On 1/30/2013 11:12 AM: Thank you Wes, Yes, the intention was to move the workload to a fundraiser and off of the Secretary/Treasurer and ED. Though we might set the Finance Chair as the person "in charge" of the fundraiser since that is more within their purview. We could however, do the same as with the ED and simply put both under the Chair's direction. Ms. Adams has indicated to me she is not very good with asking people for money. She's doing a heck of a job in nearly every other task we have her doing. She's great at coordinating and getting people involved, but asking for money is not her strong suite. Vinson is experienced doing so and has raised quite a bit in the past. As Chair, he kept the party financed on his own fundraising efforts without outside assistance, and as Campaign Manager for Lee Horne, raised several tens of thousands. Reed is of course the party Secretary and acting Treasurer. Neither is officially a fundraiser, and both positions have plenty of other duties. His non-LPL life is keeping him very busy right now, and I'd like to continue the trend of bringing new people on board and spreading duties around than to continue to shovel things one person's way. Just as we know and have seen that recruiting members and activists is itself a full time position, so is raising money. Thus I believe we should make a similar move and bring on a fundraiser. I don't think Wendy alone or even with the efforts of Mr. Ebarb continuing to pull in what they are pulling in, are going to get us to 20,400 in revenue. There would have to be a significant increase in the level of fundraising activity to do so. >From what I've gathered in conversation with others, though I will have to verify, is that we would offer somewhere between 35% and 50% as compensation. I think 50% is standard fare, but I could be wrong. At 35%, we'd need Vinson to raise $31,385 or so in the year. He would be paid ? $10,985. I'm not sure he'd work for that amount unless he could pull off those numbers part time. He'd like a full-time position. My guess would be he would need 50%, which if we were to net $20,400, would mean he would raise $40,800 and keep half. Even then, I'm not sure if that is enough for him, but he would be in control of that by his efforts. If we went with 35%, he'd have to raise $75k-$90k to make it worth it to him to quite his day job. (which he is willing to do if the money is right) That should cover the main part of the terms. I'm still looking for example contracts for the ancillary stuff that goes along with the position. Yes, we would likely have to amend the budget at some point, though even if we were to hire him this week (I doubt it) I think we'd be okay till the April meeting. The budget after all, is just a model or target, it isn't a hard and fast "law" or "rule" we have to follow short of a vote to amend it. So if the money is coming in, then I don't think it matters if we are paying him some of it that wasn't set aside in the budget. He's raising it himself. The goal for this position is to free up other people to focus on their core tasks, especially the ED. Once someone is 'activated' by the ED then the fundraiser can go into action, hitting them up for money and soliciting monthly pledges, and special project donations. Certainly, she'll still have to try to get people to sign up as members, but she can spend more of her time on logistical stuff and leave the bulk of the money raising to Vinson. We don't really need to amend the budget, beyond adding in to both the revenue and expense side, the amount of his compensation. Since he's getting it as a percentage of whatever he raises, then revenues would increase by a corresponding amount to any incurred expenses for hiring him. Thus on a 50% model, Total revenues would now be $40,800 and we'd add $20.400 as a new Fundraising Expense item, or place it under "staff" or whatever line item that was. When I discuss this with him, I'll work on what our target goal should be and we can use that to amend the budget. In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 1/30/13 8:53 AM, Wes Benedict wrote: I'm not against the concept of hiring a fundraiser, but I'd like to know more about what you have in mind and how it would affect finances before voting on the issue. At our January Shreveport meeting, I believe we passed a budget with Revenue of $20,400 and Expenses of $18,600. (Please correct me if my numbers are wrong--whatever ends up in the Secretary's minutes are the official numbers.) I'd like to ask the Chairman how he foresees the budget being affected and if he thinks the Board of Directors would need to vote to amend the budget in order to implement a contract with Mr. Mouser. For example, if we foresee Mr. Mouser raising $10,000 and being paid 25%, or $2,500, then perhaps we would not need to amend the Revenue portion of the budget, but might need to add a Fundraising Expenses budget item of $2,500. If we hire a fundraiser, perhaps that would take some of the workload off of Mr. Ebarb, Ms. Adams, and the finance committee so they could work on other things. --Wes Benedict Finance Officer 512-659-8896 Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors wrote, On 1/29/2013 12:17 PM: To all, We had discussed at our October meeting the possibility of taking on Vinson Mouser(former Chairman for the new folks), or someone else, as LPL fundraiser. My apologies for not including it in January's agenda. Considering the new contract we've offered Wendy, and the funding goals set by the SPC, we will need some major effort to bring money into the party. I suggest we take up the issue ASAP. I'll get the ball rolling with this then: Motion - That the chairman is authorized to negotiate and offer a contract for fundraising with Vinson Mouser for the remainder of 2013. 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So far, I have no more details than what you see here, or what may later appear on the facebook page linked below. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ My name is Joshua Fauver and I represent the Constitution Party of Louisiana. We are aiming to host an "End the Fed" rally on September 15th and wanted to see if the Libertarian Party wanted to be involved. Currently we are testing the waters and trying to see the interest in it. The cost can be taken care off as there is fund already for this event we have, but we would love for both of our parties to profit from this. WE were thinking both of us Liberty based parties could do this event, bring us both some publicity, and profit, bring in some speakers from both our party and push the message of ending the fed. P.s, If you are interested, we have created a Louisiana END The FED facebook page where will be updating all information as it does become available. 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On 2/6/2013 3:42 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > To all, > > I'm passing this invitation on for discussion. So far, I have no more > details than what you see here, or what may later appear on the > facebook page linked below. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > My name is Joshua Fauver and I represent the Constitution Party of > Louisiana. We are aiming to host an "End the Fed" rally on September > 15th and wanted to see if the Libertarian Party wanted to be involved. > Currently we are testing the waters and trying to see the interest in > it. The cost can be taken care off as there is fund already for this > event we have, but we would love for both of our parties to profit > from this. WE were thinking both of us Liberty based parties could do > this event, bring us both some publicity, and profit, bring in some > speakers from both our party and push the message of ending the fed. > > P.s, If you are interested, we have created a Louisiana END The FED > facebook page where will be updating all information as it does become > available. Here it is. > http://www.facebook.com/pages/END-The-FED-Louisiana/326448407476680?ref=hl > > Warm Regards, > > Joshua Fauver > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From media at lplouisiana.org Wed Feb 6 15:53:06 2013 From: media at lplouisiana.org (Keith Thompson) Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2013 15:53:06 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Fwd: Louisiana END The FED Rally In-Reply-To: <5112CE3F.1080507@lplouisiana.org> References: <1360186187.89335.YahooMailNeo@web160804.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <5112CE3F.1080507@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: This sounds like a good opportunity to me. It could get us some more exposure, help to promote some of our causes, and it may help form a better relationship with our fellow minority party. If they have the costs taken care of, that certainly helps out. I doubt that many if _any_ libertarians would swap to the constitution party, so I don't see any real threat there. I wonder if Dr. Block would be willing to attend? He can certainly do a good job on the topic while promoting libertarianism. - Keith On 2013-02-06 15:42, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > To all, > > I'm passing this invitation on for discussion. So far, I have no more details than what you see here, or what may later appear on the facebook page linked below. > > ------------------------- > > My name is Joshua Fauver and I represent the Constitution Party of Louisiana. We are aiming to host an "End the Fed" rally on September 15th and wanted to see if the Libertarian Party wanted to be involved. Currently we are testing the waters and trying to see the interest in it. The cost can be taken care off as there is fund already for this event we have, but we would love for both of our parties to profit from this. WE were thinking both of us Liberty based parties could do this event, bring us both some publicity, and profit, bring in some speakers from both our party and push the message of ending the fed. > > P.s, If you are interested, we have created a Louisiana END The FED facebook page where will be updating all information as it does become available. Here it is. > http://www.facebook.com/pages/END-The-FED-Louisiana/326448407476680?ref=hl [2] > > Warm Regards, > > Joshua Fauver > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] -- KEITH THOMPSON _Communications Officer_ Libertarian Party of Louisiana media at lplouisiana.org LPLouisiana.org [3] Links: ------ [1] http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [2] http://www.facebook.com/pages/END-The-FED-Louisiana/326448407476680?ref=hl [3] http://www.lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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T Lee Horne, III Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 tleehorneiii at gmail.com 318-542-4445 google voice tleehorneiii skype From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of Adrien Monteleone Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 4:42 PM To: scc at lplouisiana.org; Wendy Adams; Guy McLendon Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Fwd: Louisiana END The FED Rally To all, I'm passing this invitation on for discussion. So far, I have no more details than what you see here, or what may later appear on the facebook page linked below. _____ My name is Joshua Fauver and I represent the Constitution Party of Louisiana. We are aiming to host an "End the Fed" rally on September 15th and wanted to see if the Libertarian Party wanted to be involved. Currently we are testing the waters and trying to see the interest in it. The cost can be taken care off as there is fund already for this event we have, but we would love for both of our parties to profit from this. WE were thinking both of us Liberty based parties could do this event, bring us both some publicity, and profit, bring in some speakers from both our party and push the message of ending the fed. P.s, If you are interested, we have created a Louisiana END The FED facebook page where will be updating all information as it does become available. Here it is. http://www.facebook.com/pages/END-The-FED-Louisiana/326448407476680?ref=hl Warm Regards, Joshua Fauver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From secretary at lplouisiana.org Thu Feb 7 15:26:44 2013 From: secretary at lplouisiana.org (Reed Ebarb) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 15:26:44 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Fwd: Louisiana END The FED Rally In-Reply-To: <5112CE3F.1080507@lplouisiana.org> References: <1360186187.89335.YahooMailNeo@web160804.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <5112CE3F.1080507@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <38af4346a6bda18cdbfa4806c0a22554.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> I have heard a lot from this guy and I know his history, as well as that of his "chairman". Stay away from this. > To all, > > I'm passing this invitation on for discussion. So far, I have no more > details than what you see here, or what may later appear on the facebook > page linked below. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > My name is Joshua Fauver and I represent the Constitution Party of > Louisiana. We are aiming to host an "End the Fed" rally on September > 15th and wanted to see if the Libertarian Party wanted to be involved. > Currently we are testing the waters and trying to see the interest in > it. The cost can be taken care off as there is fund already for this > event we have, but we would love for both of our parties to profit from > this. WE were thinking both of us Liberty based parties could do this > event, bring us both some publicity, and profit, bring in some speakers > from both our party and push the message of ending the fed. > > P.s, If you are interested, we have created a Louisiana END The FED > facebook page where will be updating all information as it does become > available. Here it is. > http://www.facebook.com/pages/END-The-FED-Louisiana/326448407476680?ref=hl > > Warm Regards, > > Joshua Fauver > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > If you have not already done so, please consider becoming a dues member of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana by visiting louisianalibertarian.net From chairman at lplouisiana.org Thu Feb 7 15:33:15 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2013 15:33:15 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Fwd: Louisiana END The FED Rally In-Reply-To: <38af4346a6bda18cdbfa4806c0a22554.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> References: <1360186187.89335.YahooMailNeo@web160804.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <5112CE3F.1080507@lplouisiana.org> <38af4346a6bda18cdbfa4806c0a22554.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <51141D9B.2040804@lplouisiana.org> Out of curiosity, can you elaborate? I wasn't impressed by his initial email, or two follow-ups he sent when I requested more info. (which didn't really contain any info) But, I've not seen anything terribly negative yet. However, I've also yet to see anything promising out the the CP, which is probably why they are so small and losing members. On a side note, our platform has the restriction of dealing only with State issues and/or State jurisdiction. We thus would have no say in ending the Fed, though we could promote our own Louisiana Real Money bill. (similar to others passed recently in other States like Utah, and the one currently pending in Virginia) -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 02/07/2013 03:26 PM, Reed Ebarb wrote: > I have heard a lot from this guy and I know his history, as well as that > of his "chairman". Stay away from this. > > >> To all, >> >> I'm passing this invitation on for discussion. So far, I have no more >> details than what you see here, or what may later appear on the facebook >> page linked below. >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> My name is Joshua Fauver and I represent the Constitution Party of >> Louisiana. We are aiming to host an "End the Fed" rally on September >> 15th and wanted to see if the Libertarian Party wanted to be involved. >> Currently we are testing the waters and trying to see the interest in >> it. The cost can be taken care off as there is fund already for this >> event we have, but we would love for both of our parties to profit from >> this. WE were thinking both of us Liberty based parties could do this >> event, bring us both some publicity, and profit, bring in some speakers >> from both our party and push the message of ending the fed. >> >> P.s, If you are interested, we have created a Louisiana END The FED >> facebook page where will be updating all information as it does become >> available. Here it is. >> http://www.facebook.com/pages/END-The-FED-Louisiana/326448407476680?ref=hl >> >> Warm Regards, >> >> Joshua Fauver >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> > > If you have not already done so, please consider becoming a dues member of > the Libertarian Party of Louisiana by visiting louisianalibertarian.net > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: chairman.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 283 bytes Desc: not available URL: From chairman at lplouisiana.org Thu Feb 7 19:21:54 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2013 19:21:54 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Fwd: Louisiana END The FED Rally In-Reply-To: <1360190702.27705.YahooMailNeo@web160804.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1360190702.27705.YahooMailNeo@web160804.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <51145332.6030404@lplouisiana.org> This guy seems less likely to offer specifics than a politician. It's a wonder their party isn't more successful. I'm becoming less open to any collaboration with this group and more inclined to adhere to Mr. Ebarb's admonishment to "stay away." My guess is: 1)there are no specifics. 2)they were hoping to bring us in to do the heavy lifting. 3)they perhaps think they will benefit from our involvement more so than without us. 4)there's little in it for us. As I noted earlier, I'm not opposed outright from advocating ending the Fed. (there is just such a pronouncement on a bumper sticker on my trunk) But we might do better to stick to our platform guidelines and only take a State level position where we can. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Joshua Fauver Subject: Re: Louisiana END The FED Rally Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 14:45:02 -0800 (PST) Size: 9639 URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: chairman.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 283 bytes Desc: not available URL: From media at lplouisiana.org Thu Feb 7 20:02:14 2013 From: media at lplouisiana.org (Keith Thompson) Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2013 20:02:14 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Fwd: Louisiana END The FED Rally In-Reply-To: <51145332.6030404@lplouisiana.org> References: <1360190702.27705.YahooMailNeo@web160804.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51145332.6030404@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <990d66ad71fcb0fa947b5ef3ea43f53b@lplouisiana.org> In fairness to their lack of details, the event isn't until September, right? I didn't think that their response was so bad considering. They don't likely have all of the details worked out yet except the desire to stage a protest of the federal reserve and the hope to get some attention. I don't know what sort of intel Mr. Ebarb has on them, though. - Keith On 2013-02-07 19:21, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > This guy seems less likely to offer specifics than a politician. It's a > wonder their party isn't more successful. > > I'm becoming less open to any collaboration with this group and more inclined > to adhere to Mr. Ebarb's admonishment to "stay away." > > My guess is: > > 1)there are no specifics. > 2)they were hoping to bring us in to do the heavy lifting. > 3)they perhaps think they will benefit from our involvement more so than > without us. > 4)there's little in it for us. > > As I noted earlier, I'm not opposed outright from advocating ending the Fed. > (there is just such a pronouncement on a bumper sticker on my trunk) > > But we might do better to stick to our platform guidelines and only take a > State level position where we can. > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] -- KEITH THOMPSON _Communications Officer_ Libertarian Party of Louisiana media at lplouisiana.org LPLouisiana.org [2] Links: ------ [1] http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [2] http://www.lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From guy at mclendon.net Thu Feb 7 20:55:39 2013 From: guy at mclendon.net (Guy McLendon) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 20:55:39 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Louisiana END The FED Rally In-Reply-To: <51145332.6030404@lplouisiana.org> References: <1360190702.27705.YahooMailNeo@web160804.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51145332.6030404@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <013001ce05a7$c7ae76a0$570b63e0$@mclendon.net> ... just sharing my experience based upon several "Common Ground" events that included participation from Constitution, Green, Reform USA & LP. One particular event was intended to be cofounded equally by all 4 parties, and I fronted the money from LP. The only party to stiff me was Constitution Party; Green & Reform paid their share promptly. Also, CP had few if any attendees other than their leadership. The Reform Party appeared to very few members to attend ... like, they arguable didn't have any/many members other than their leadership. Only the LP & Greens appeared to have had large memberships, and to have made an attempt to bring out attendance from those members. All that being said ... I think that the performance of the CP leadership in that one instance can probably NOT be justly extrapolated to other individual members or leaders, so take the above comments with reservations. Guy -----Original Message----- From: Adrien Monteleone [mailto:chairman at lplouisiana.org] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 7:22 PM To: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors; Wendy A. Adams; Guy Mclendon Subject: Fwd: Louisiana END The FED Rally This guy seems less likely to offer specifics than a politician. It's a wonder their party isn't more successful. I'm becoming less open to any collaboration with this group and more inclined to adhere to Mr. Ebarb's admonishment to "stay away." My guess is: 1)there are no specifics. 2)they were hoping to bring us in to do the heavy lifting. 3)they perhaps think they will benefit from our involvement more so than without us. 4)there's little in it for us. As I noted earlier, I'm not opposed outright from advocating ending the Fed. (there is just such a pronouncement on a bumper sticker on my trunk) But we might do better to stick to our platform guidelines and only take a State level position where we can. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana From chairman at lplouisiana.org Fri Feb 8 05:02:01 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2013 05:02:01 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Fwd: Louisiana END The FED Rally In-Reply-To: <990d66ad71fcb0fa947b5ef3ea43f53b@lplouisiana.org> References: <1360190702.27705.YahooMailNeo@web160804.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51145332.6030404@lplouisiana.org> <990d66ad71fcb0fa947b5ef3ea43f53b@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <5114DB29.5030908@lplouisiana.org> I think what bothered me was he specifically said they could front the cost on their own, "if need be" and he repeated that, but for some reason, could tell me how much that would be. How do they know they could afford it if they don't even yet know what they are doing? This tells me it was a fishing expedition for someone else to do the lifting, not just financially, but planning, and execution. That's just my take on it for now. In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 2/7/13 8:02 PM, Keith Thompson wrote: > > In fairness to their lack of details, the event isn't until September, > right? I didn't think that their response was so bad considering. They > don't likely have all of the details worked out yet except the desire to > stage a protest of the federal reserve and the hope to get some attention. > > I don't know what sort of intel Mr. Ebarb has on them, though. > > - Keith > > On 2013-02-07 19:21, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > >> This guy seems less likely to offer specifics than a politician. It's a >> wonder their party isn't more successful. >> >> I'm becoming less open to any collaboration with this group and more inclined >> to adhere to Mr. Ebarb's admonishment to "stay away." >> >> My guess is: >> >> 1)there are no specifics. >> 2)they were hoping to bring us in to do the heavy lifting. >> 3)they perhaps think they will benefit from our involvement more so than >> without us. >> 4)there's little in it for us. >> >> As I noted earlier, I'm not opposed outright from advocating ending the Fed. >> (there is just such a pronouncement on a bumper sticker on my trunk) >> >> But we might do better to stick to our platform guidelines and only take a >> State level position where we can. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > -- > LPL Logo *Keith Thompson* > /Communications Officer/ > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > media at lplouisiana.org > LPLouisiana.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Additionally, while the national party advocates a position on the FED, as Adrien said, the state party is focused on state issues. T Lee Horne, III Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 tleehorneiii at gmail.com paladin at lplouisiana.org 318-542-4445 google voice tleehorneiii skype -----Original Message----- From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of Reed Ebarb Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 4:27 PM To: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors Cc: Guy McLendon; Wendy Adams Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Fwd: Louisiana END The FED Rally I have heard a lot from this guy and I know his history, as well as that of his "chairman". Stay away from this. > To all, > > I'm passing this invitation on for discussion. So far, I have no more > details than what you see here, or what may later appear on the > facebook page linked below. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > > My name is Joshua Fauver and I represent the Constitution Party of > Louisiana. We are aiming to host an "End the Fed" rally on September > 15th and wanted to see if the Libertarian Party wanted to be involved. > Currently we are testing the waters and trying to see the interest in > it. The cost can be taken care off as there is fund already for this > event we have, but we would love for both of our parties to profit > from this. WE were thinking both of us Liberty based parties could do > this event, bring us both some publicity, and profit, bring in some > speakers from both our party and push the message of ending the fed. > > P.s, If you are interested, we have created a Louisiana END The FED > facebook page where will be updating all information as it does become > available. Here it is. > http://www.facebook.com/pages/END-The-FED-Louisiana/326448407476680?re > f=hl > > Warm Regards, > > Joshua Fauver > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > If you have not already done so, please consider becoming a dues member of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana by visiting louisianalibertarian.net _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org From treasurer at lplouisiana.org Fri Feb 8 17:23:48 2013 From: treasurer at lplouisiana.org (treasurer at lplouisiana.org) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 17:23:48 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Fwd: Louisiana END The FED Rally In-Reply-To: <990d66ad71fcb0fa947b5ef3ea43f53b@lplouisiana.org> References: <1360190702.27705.YahooMailNeo@web160804.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51145332.6030404@lplouisiana.org> <990d66ad71fcb0fa947b5ef3ea43f53b@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: Sorry to take so long to email back. I had this same issue working on the Gary Johnson Campaign. This guy had a higher up position with the Virgil Goode Campaign and tried to have the GJ and VG Campaign's do a joint event. This exact problem came up. He wouldn't offer details and he most of all wanted the GJ Campaign to fund half of the event. I declined but said when the event was planned out, we would strongly reconsider. The event never even happened. All they did was talk and do a small amount of planning but it never progressed. They were asking for a commitment of money before details were even thought of. This effort, as well as the one with VG and GJ Campaigns, as well as a few other interactions I have had with the CP, they seem very unorganized and truthfully, beyond Joshua, the "Chairman", and another guy, they have no other members. They stand to gain a lot more from this event than us and also, we are a state party. We have enough on our hands just trying to educate and sway the public on State Issues. If the CP has the event, and more than 9 people show up, I would be VERY surprised. > > > In fairness to their lack of details, the event isn't until > September, right? I didn't think that their response was so bad > considering. They don't likely have all of the details worked out yet > except the desire to stage a protest of the federal reserve and the hope > to get some attention. > > I don't know what sort of intel Mr. Ebarb has > on them, though. > > - Keith > > On 2013-02-07 19:21, Adrien Monteleone > wrote: > >> This guy seems less likely to offer specifics than a > politician. It's a >> wonder their party isn't more successful. >> >> I'm > becoming less open to any collaboration with this group and more > inclined >> to adhere to Mr. Ebarb's admonishment to "stay away." >> >> > My guess is: >> >> 1)there are no specifics. >> 2)they were hoping to > bring us in to do the heavy lifting. >> 3)they perhaps think they will > benefit from our involvement more so than >> without us. >> 4)there's > little in it for us. >> >> As I noted earlier, I'm not opposed outright > from advocating ending the Fed. >> (there is just such a pronouncement > on a bumper sticker on my trunk) >> >> But we might do better to stick to > our platform guidelines and only take a >> State level position where we > can. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing > list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] > > -- > > > KEITH THOMPSON > _Communications Officer_ > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > media at lplouisiana.org > LPLouisiana.org [2] > > > > Links: > ------ > [1] > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > [2] > http://www.lplouisiana.org > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > From treasurer at lplouisiana.org Mon Feb 11 15:10:56 2013 From: treasurer at lplouisiana.org (treasurer at lplouisiana.org) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 15:10:56 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Postage Message-ID: Since I believe we will have some extra money in the bank around the beginning of March, I believe it is about time we use our "postage" account. In order to mail anything at non-profit rates, we need to get a non-profit permit via the USPS. The total price of this would be $280. With all our fund-raising efforts, now would be a good time to go ahead and obtain the permit. In order to get the best bang for our buck (note, this is all just my suggestions), I would suggest sending postcards to 1,000 registered Libertarians. If we get the latest voter registration list, lets take the last 1,000 people who registered and send them a postcard directing them to our website and encouraging them to donate, run, and volunteer for the party. Although we will get plenty of returns, at least we will have valid addresses and I am sure our website views will take a huge jump. The total cost of getting 1,000 printed and mailed at non-profit rate is $525. Does anyone oppose my idea? Should we target a different group? Should we wait longer to do this? Should we explore other options? Let me know what everyone thinks. From chairman at lplouisiana.org Mon Feb 11 15:29:59 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 15:29:59 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Postage In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <511962D7.8060105@lplouisiana.org> I have no objections and I fully support this effort. Please pass on the proposed text to all for input before sending out though. Thanks. p.s. - maybe we can filter out those who are already donating and have recently signed up as paying members. That way we are only hitting those that aren't already "current and active with valid address/contact info." When I get home, I'll check the numbers and see exactly how many in our new list would be registered since 1/1/12. Perhaps for a few more bucks we can complete the original cutoff that was discussed. If it is too much more, we can leave the rest for later. I would propose though, that to minimize "staleness" we work our way from 1/1/12 forward until we hit 1000. That way, if we have to put some off for a few months, they won't be dropping further back in the pack, than had we worked from today backwards. A hybrid/compromise of this would be to hit everyone who registered/switched since the November election, then hit the balance of 1000 working from 1/1/12 forward. That way we keep recent people from going stale, and begin the "catch-up" process from our target date. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 02/11/2013 03:10 PM, treasurer at lplouisiana.org wrote: > Since I believe we will have some extra money in the bank around the > beginning of March, I believe it is about time we use our "postage" > account. > > In order to mail anything at non-profit rates, we need to get a non-profit > permit via the USPS. The total price of this would be $280. With all our > fund-raising efforts, now would be a good time to go ahead and obtain the > permit. > > In order to get the best bang for our buck (note, this is all just my > suggestions), I would suggest sending postcards to 1,000 registered > Libertarians. If we get the latest voter registration list, lets take the > last 1,000 people who registered and send them a postcard directing them > to our website and encouraging them to donate, run, and volunteer for the > party. Although we will get plenty of returns, at least we will have valid > addresses and I am sure our website views will take a huge jump. The total > cost of getting 1,000 printed and mailed at non-profit rate is $525. > > Does anyone oppose my idea? > > Should we target a different group? > > Should we wait longer to do this? > > Should we explore other options? > > Let me know what everyone thinks. > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: chairman.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 297 bytes Desc: not available URL: From elections at lplouisiana.org Mon Feb 11 15:37:02 2013 From: elections at lplouisiana.org (elections at lplouisiana.org) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 15:37:02 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Postage In-Reply-To: <511962D7.8060105@lplouisiana.org> References: <511962D7.8060105@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <97cb161d0faa62e8fd38f428b0cbae74.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> I like it as well. bws > I have no objections and I fully support this effort. > > Please pass on the proposed text to all for input before sending out > though. > > Thanks. > > p.s. - maybe we can filter out those who are already donating and have > recently signed up as paying members. That way we are only hitting > those that aren't already "current and active with valid address/contact > info." > > When I get home, I'll check the numbers and see exactly how many in our > new list would be registered since 1/1/12. Perhaps for a few more bucks > we can complete the original cutoff that was discussed. If it is too > much more, we can leave the rest for later. I would propose though, > that to minimize "staleness" we work our way from 1/1/12 forward until > we hit 1000. That way, if we have to put some off for a few months, > they won't be dropping further back in the pack, than had we worked from > today backwards. > > A hybrid/compromise of this would be to hit everyone who > registered/switched since the November election, then hit the balance of > 1000 working from 1/1/12 forward. That way we keep recent people from > going stale, and begin the "catch-up" process from our target date. > > > -- In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > On 02/11/2013 03:10 PM, treasurer at lplouisiana.org wrote: >> Since I believe we will have some extra money in the bank around the >> beginning of March, I believe it is about time we use our "postage" >> account. >> >> In order to mail anything at non-profit rates, we need to get a >> non-profit >> permit via the USPS. The total price of this would be $280. With all our >> fund-raising efforts, now would be a good time to go ahead and obtain >> the >> permit. >> >> In order to get the best bang for our buck (note, this is all just my >> suggestions), I would suggest sending postcards to 1,000 registered >> Libertarians. If we get the latest voter registration list, lets take >> the >> last 1,000 people who registered and send them a postcard directing them >> to our website and encouraging them to donate, run, and volunteer for >> the >> party. Although we will get plenty of returns, at least we will have >> valid >> addresses and I am sure our website views will take a huge jump. The >> total >> cost of getting 1,000 printed and mailed at non-profit rate is $525. >> >> Does anyone oppose my idea? >> >> Should we target a different group? >> >> Should we wait longer to do this? >> >> Should we explore other options? >> >> Let me know what everyone thinks. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > From fgrif at bellsouth.net Mon Feb 11 15:43:58 2013 From: fgrif at bellsouth.net (Franklin Griffin) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 13:43:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Postage In-Reply-To: <97cb161d0faa62e8fd38f428b0cbae74.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <1360619038.89422.YahooMailClassic@web181602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> If we've got the spare change, I say go for it. ? FG --- On Mon, 2/11/13, elections at lplouisiana.org wrote: From: elections at lplouisiana.org Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Postage To: "Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors" Date: Monday, February 11, 2013, 3:37 PM I like it as well. bws > I have no objections and I fully support this effort. > > Please pass on the proposed text to all for input before sending out > though. > > Thanks. > > p.s. - maybe we can filter out those who are already donating and have > recently signed up as paying members.? That way we are only hitting > those that aren't already "current and active with valid address/contact > info." > > When I get home, I'll check the numbers and see exactly how many in our > new list would be registered since 1/1/12.? Perhaps for a few more bucks > we can complete the original cutoff that was discussed.? If it is too > much more, we can leave the rest for later.? I would propose though, > that to minimize "staleness" we work our way from 1/1/12 forward until > we hit 1000.? That way, if we have to put some off for a few months, > they won't be dropping further back in the pack, than had we worked from > today backwards. > > A hybrid/compromise of this would be to hit everyone who > registered/switched since the November election, then hit the balance of > 1000 working from 1/1/12 forward.? That way we keep recent people from > going stale, and begin the "catch-up" process from our target date. > > > -- In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > On 02/11/2013 03:10 PM, treasurer at lplouisiana.org wrote: >> Since I believe we will have some extra money in the bank around the >> beginning of March, I believe it is about time we use our "postage" >> account. >> >> In order to mail anything at non-profit rates, we need to get a >> non-profit >> permit via the USPS. The total price of this would be $280. With all our >> fund-raising efforts, now would be a good time to go ahead and obtain >> the >> permit. >> >> In order to get the best bang for our buck (note, this is all just my >> suggestions), I would suggest sending postcards to 1,000 registered >> Libertarians. If we get the latest voter registration list, lets take >> the >> last 1,000 people who registered and send them a postcard directing them >> to our website and encouraging them to donate, run, and volunteer for >> the >> party. Although we will get plenty of returns, at least we will have >> valid >> addresses and I am sure our website views will take a huge jump. The >> total >> cost of getting 1,000 printed and mailed at non-profit rate is $525. >> >> Does anyone oppose my idea? >> >> Should we target a different group? >> >> Should we wait longer to do this? >> >> Should we explore other options? >> >> Let me know what everyone thinks. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From finance at lplouisiana.org Mon Feb 11 15:49:17 2013 From: finance at lplouisiana.org (Wes Benedict) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 15:49:17 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Postage In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5119675D.5040107@lplouisiana.org> I'm OK with the plan. Please be aware that when you send mail with a non-profit permit, there are extra steps you must take, like sorting in a particular order, filling out forms, and delivering to a special area where the Postal Service inspects and accepts this kind of mail (while you wait a while). It's not too difficult, but not simple. If you learn this process, you'll be even more valuable to the team. --Wes Benedict treasurer at lplouisiana.org wrote, On 2/11/2013 3:10 PM: > Since I believe we will have some extra money in the bank around the > beginning of March, I believe it is about time we use our "postage" > account. > > In order to mail anything at non-profit rates, we need to get a non-profit > permit via the USPS. The total price of this would be $280. With all our > fund-raising efforts, now would be a good time to go ahead and obtain the > permit. > > In order to get the best bang for our buck (note, this is all just my > suggestions), I would suggest sending postcards to 1,000 registered > Libertarians. If we get the latest voter registration list, lets take the > last 1,000 people who registered and send them a postcard directing them > to our website and encouraging them to donate, run, and volunteer for the > party. Although we will get plenty of returns, at least we will have valid > addresses and I am sure our website views will take a huge jump. The total > cost of getting 1,000 printed and mailed at non-profit rate is $525. > > Does anyone oppose my idea? > > Should we target a different group? > > Should we wait longer to do this? > > Should we explore other options? > > Let me know what everyone thinks. > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org From chairman at lplouisiana.org Tue Feb 12 23:38:43 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 23:38:43 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Election Qualifying THIS WEEK & New Charitable Projects posted Message-ID: <511B26E3.1030906@lplouisiana.org> The following was sent to our newsletter distribution list:* Municipal Elections Qualifying THIS WEEK!* Qualifying for the April 6th Municipal elections runs from Wednesday, February 13th through Friday, February 15th. Candidates must qualify with their local Registrar of Voters office between 8 a.m. and 4 p.m. each day. Offices are posted on our "Who Is Running? " pages. They include the positions of Alderman, Councilman, Chief of Police and Mayor for several Louisiana villages, towns and cities. All told there are 103 offices up for grabs, and this will be the last opportunity to run for any office until the Spring of 2014. Anyone contemplating running for office in the next few years should strongly consider filing for local office, NOW, this week. If not for the experience of actually serving in office, then do so simply for the experience gained in campaigning and name recognition. You might get elected just by filing unopposed! (as two Louisiana Libertarians did in November 2012 ) Volunteer TODAY! See our Who's Running pages for more info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ *New Charitable Project!* The Optimist Club of Lafayette is in dire need of a new roof over their entire facility. They have not received any official estimates for the job, but preliminarily have determined themselves, that materials will run at a minimum $4,000. This will wipe out approximately HALF of their current balance of funds for their youth scholarships and events. Every dollar spent on the roof is a dollar they won't have available to put towards projects for the kids they help and serve. Find out more about this project and why the LPL is promoting and supporting it on our new Charitable Projects page. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Caucus & Planning Meetings posted The Libertarian Party of Louisiana will kickoff the new year by announcing our very first Caucus of 2013 to be held in St Tammany Parish. St. Tammany registered Libertarians will vote to fill up to 16 positions on their Parish Executive Committee. All Libertarians are invited to attend and there will be open voter registration at the event. Please see our press release featured in the Times Picayune and "Like" the article at the bottom of the page to show your support! We will be forming Parish Executive Committees across the state, working to grow our membership to 15,000 by 2014 and recruiting candidates to run for local office. Planning meetings are also scheduled for Jefferson, Lafourche, Orleans, St. Mary, and Terrebonne Parishes. See our Events Page , and our Caucus page for more details and to RSVP. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana LPLouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fgrif at bellsouth.net Wed Feb 13 05:40:30 2013 From: fgrif at bellsouth.net (Franklin Griffin) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 03:40:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Election Qualifying THIS WEEK & New Charitable Projects posted In-Reply-To: <511B26E3.1030906@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <1360755630.73707.YahooMailClassic@web181602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Correction:? 501-3c donations must be made payable to Optimist International Foundation and mailed to the local address.? Thanks big guy! ? F ? --- On Tue, 2/12/13, Adrien Monteleone wrote: From: Adrien Monteleone Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Election Qualifying THIS WEEK & New Charitable Projects posted To: "Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors" , "Wendy A. Adams" , "Guy Mclendon" Date: Tuesday, February 12, 2013, 11:38 PM The following was sent to our newsletter distribution list: Municipal Elections Qualifying THIS WEEK! Qualifying for the April 6th Municipal elections runs from Wednesday, February 13th through Friday, February 15th. Candidates must qualify with their local Registrar of Voters office between 8 a.m. and 4 p.m. each day. Offices are posted on our "Who Is Running?" pages.? They include the positions of Alderman, Councilman, Chief of Police and Mayor for several Louisiana villages, towns and cities.? All told there are 103 offices up for grabs, and this will be the last opportunity to run for any office until the Spring of 2014. Anyone contemplating running for office in the next few years should strongly consider filing for local office, NOW, this week. If not for the experience of actually serving in office, then do so simply for the experience gained in campaigning and name recognition. You might get elected just by filing unopposed! (as two Louisiana Libertarians did in November 2012) Volunteer TODAY! See our Who's Running pages for more info. New Charitable Project! The Optimist Club of Lafayette is in dire need of a new roof over their entire facility. They have not received any official estimates for the job, but preliminarily have determined themselves, that materials will run at a minimum $4,000. This will wipe out approximately HALF of their current balance of funds for their youth scholarships and events. Every dollar spent on the roof is a dollar they won't have available to put towards projects for the kids they help and serve. Find out more about this project and why the LPL is promoting and supporting it on our new Charitable Projects page. Caucus & Planning Meetings posted The Libertarian Party of Louisiana will kickoff the new year by announcing our very first Caucus of 2013 to be held in St Tammany Parish. St. Tammany registered Libertarians will vote to fill up to 16 positions on their Parish Executive Committee. All Libertarians are invited to attend and there will be open voter registration at the event. Please see our press release featured in the Times Picayune and "Like" the article at the bottom of the page to show your support! We will be forming Parish Executive Committees across the state, working to grow our membership to 15,000 by 2014 and recruiting candidates to run for local office. Planning meetings are also scheduled for Jefferson, Lafourche, Orleans, St. Mary, and Terrebonne Parishes. See our Events Page, and our Caucus page for more details and to RSVP. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana LPLouisiana.org -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chairman at lplouisiana.org Wed Feb 13 19:33:40 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 19:33:40 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Election Qualifying THIS WEEK & New Charitable Projects posted In-Reply-To: <1360755630.73707.YahooMailClassic@web181602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1360755630.73707.YahooMailClassic@web181602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <511C3EF4.7010102@lplouisiana.org> I fixed it on the website. Sorry for that and thanks for the clarification. In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 2/13/13 5:40 AM, Franklin Griffin wrote: > Correction: 501-3c donations must be made payable to Optimist International > _Foundation > _and mailed to the local address. Thanks big guy! > F > > --- On *Tue, 2/12/13, Adrien Monteleone //* wrote: > > > From: Adrien Monteleone > Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Election Qualifying THIS WEEK & New > Charitable Projects posted > To: "Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors" , > "Wendy A. Adams" , "Guy Mclendon" > > Date: Tuesday, February 12, 2013, 11:38 PM > > The following was sent to our newsletter distribution list:* > > > > > > Municipal Elections Qualifying THIS WEEK!* > > Qualifying for the April 6th Municipal elections runs from Wednesday, > February 13th through Friday, February 15th. Candidates must qualify > with their local Registrar of Voters > office between 8 a.m. > and 4 p.m. each day. > > Offices are posted on our "Who Is Running? > " pages. They > include the positions of Alderman, Councilman, Chief of Police and Mayor > for several Louisiana villages, towns and cities. All told there are > 103 offices up for grabs, and this will be the last opportunity to run > for any office until the Spring of 2014. > > Anyone contemplating running for office in the next few years should > strongly consider filing for local office, NOW, this week. If not for > the experience of actually serving in office, then do so simply for the > experience gained in campaigning and name recognition. You might get > elected just by filing unopposed! (as two Louisiana Libertarians did in > November 2012 > ) > > Volunteer TODAY! See our Who's Running > pages for more info. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *New Charitable Project!* > > The Optimist Club of Lafayette is in dire need of a new roof over their > entire facility. They have not received any official estimates for the > job, but preliminarily have determined themselves, that materials will > run at a minimum $4,000. This will wipe out approximately HALF of their > current balance of funds for their youth scholarships and events. Every > dollar spent on the roof is a dollar they won't have available to put > towards projects for the kids they help and serve. > > Find out more about this project > and why the > LPL is promoting and supporting it on our new Charitable Projects page. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Caucus & Planning Meetings posted > > The Libertarian Party of Louisiana will kickoff the new year by > announcing our very first Caucus of 2013 to be held in St Tammany > Parish. St. Tammany registered Libertarians will vote to fill up to 16 > positions on their Parish Executive Committee. All Libertarians are > invited to attend and there will be open voter registration at the event. > Please see our press release featured in the Times Picayune > and > "Like" the article at the bottom of the page to show your support! > We will be forming Parish Executive Committees across the state, working > to grow our membership to 15,000 by 2014 and recruiting candidates to > run for local office. > Planning meetings are also scheduled for Jefferson, Lafourche, Orleans, > St. Mary, and Terrebonne Parishes. > See our Events Page , and our > Caucus page for > more details and to RSVP. > > > -- > In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > LPLouisiana.org > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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An opportunity to get the brand out in front of a huge > crowd. > > *T Lee Horne, III* > > Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA > > President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 > > Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 > > Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 > > tleehorneiii at gmail.com > > 318-542-4445 google voice > > tleehorneiii skype > > Good Afternoon, > > If you're interested in getting a Vendor Booth for our Regional > Conferences > > on March 8and 9, for $150.00 for both days Please contact me at the > number below or by email. Thank You for your support. > > > > Lloyd Thompson, President > Shreveport Chapter NAACP > 1315 Milam Street > Shreveport, LA 71101 > (318) 828-1905 > email: naacp1856 at yahoo.com > or thompson1856 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: chairman.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 308 bytes Desc: not available URL: From tlhorne at yahoo.com Thu Feb 21 06:44:42 2013 From: tlhorne at yahoo.com (tlhorne at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 04:44:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Vendor Booth for NAACP Regional Conference in Shreveport March 8 and 9 Message-ID: <1839330604.62839.1361450685434.JavaMail.seven@ap9.p0.sjc.7sys.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chairman at lplouisiana.org Thu Feb 21 16:17:53 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 16:17:53 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Bayou Parishes! In-Reply-To: <5126762E.6000702@lplouisiana.org> References: <512593B6.9000203@lplouisiana.org> <5125A54C.5010808@lplouisiana.org> <5125ADC5.1060703@lplouisiana.org> <51265054.1000001@lplouisiana.org> <5126762E.6000702@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <51269D11.50707@lplouisiana.org> To all SCC members, I'm forwarding the discussion below for all of you to review for input. The issue at hand is "can St. Mary, Terrebonne, and Lafourche parishes hold their three caucuses together at one location as a single event?" For various reasons, mostly stated in my latest reply, I would say "no." If you have time, please read this over and let me know your thoughts. Otherwise, my position and "ruling" on this matter is that each caucus needs to be held separately in their respective parishes. This does not prohibit the actives from collaborating and assisting one another to make all three events a success. We will also need to consider minor modifications to our By-laws or Special Rules in order to clarify this for the future. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2/21/2013 4:05 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: Thanks for the clarification. I guessed already at everything you have here, and I am sympathetic and sensitive to it. And I've driven that area quite a bit, so I understand how close AND how far apart, those three parishes are. But I also have other considerations to balance out. As far as Lafourche and Terrebonne go, historically, they used to be a single parish. (Lafourche Interior Parish was the old name) I don't remember all the history, but in hindsight I would say dividing the parish wasn't the best move by the Legislature. And really, for the locals there, they do consider themselves more together than separate. Certainly, if Dr. Block or someone else makes a special appearance, it would be nice to not have to ask him to attend two separate events, even 15 miles apart. Of course, there's nothing prohibiting say Lafourche from holding its caucus 1st, and then Terrebonne inviting everyone to their caucus to hear Dr. Block or anyone else speak. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ St. Mary Parish is another animal entirely. (though anyone would be welcomed to attend the Terrebonne Caucus as a guest to hear a speaker) The least distance someone has to travel to get to Houma is from Amelia which is 30+ minutes away. Morgan City is 45+, and Franklin which is the parish seat is over an hour away from Houma. People from Charenton, Baldwin are even further, and if someone lives in St. Mary parish just east of Jeanerette, they'd have to drive nearly 90 minutes to get to the caucus that should be held about 20-30 minutes away in Franklin. I don't think it's right to ask people to drive 90 minutes to another parish, when the meeting is supposed to be 1/3 that distance away in their own parish. This is a disenfranchisement issue. Even if no one other than those who showed up to the planning meeting, show up to the caucus, it still is a bad practice to hold elections in a "foreign" and "far away" jurisdiction. Remember, we aren't just concerned with those people you called or met with already. We're concerned about access for the general public of each parish. Everyone is invited to attend. If they aren't registered LP, they are invited to switch so they can participate. We've already discussed using these events to drive voter registration. That becomes increasingly remote if the meeting is held in another parish. We will be advertising the caucuses publicly in each parish. We may not get any attendees from that announcement alone even with separate caucuses, but I can guarantee that the prospect of having to drive an hour or more to Houma for a St. Mary Parish meeting WILL be a deterrent for people to consider going. Even having to drive 30 minutes from Thibodeaux to Houma might be a deterrent considering the Lafourche caucus SHOULD be in Thibodeaux. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Back to their interpersonal dynamics. Once formed, the PECs and parish members are free to collaborate on any election or other projects they want. But they have to hold their individual PEC meetings within their respective parishes. (that's in the rules) Thus I see little practical purpose to holding their election in Houma. St. Mary and even Lafourche will be holding all subsequent meetings in Franklin and Thibodeaux respectively. If they want to attend each other's caucuses to assist with pulling off the event, more power to them. They can do this and still support each other. In no way do I want to trample on or discourage what they are building there. But holding a single caucus isn't the only way to work together. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There is another important consideration: We are in no-mans land legally. It's uncharted territory so to speak. State law requires us to have PECs, but the sections of law specifying how to elect them doesn't apply to us. So we're left to make up our own rules on that. However, we have yet to gain any official recognition for a PEC. (we haven't tried yet) And there doesn't seem to be any procedure for doing so since there are no public elections for us yet. I'll have to contact the SoS and Registar of Voters to find out what to do. I would be dimes to dollars that if we hold a caucus for electing a PEC for a parish, in order for the State/Parish to recognize it as the legitimate PEC, that election will have to be held in that parish. I don't want to end up with a situation where we set a precedent for doing this, and either in this case, or another, some other group holds a caucus on their own within the parish and files and claims to be the legitimate PEC. In such a case, there is no way we could back the PEC formed outside the respective parish. We might even find that merely doing it the way they plan to, will precipitate someone trying to do this just to force the issue. There are just too many problems and issues with doing it all as one, and since there are other ways to accomplish collaboration, and since having separate caucuses doesn't necessarily sacrifice that dynamic, there is no overriding reason to not do them separately. I'll investigate further on the legal issues, and I'll pass all this by the larger Board, but the safest and surest bet is this needs to be three separate events one within each respective parish. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 02/21/2013 01:31 PM, Wendy Adams wrote: > Thank you, Adrien, you too. > > They were open to either structure for the meeting: holding them one > right after another, or one in the front showroom and one in the back > training room simultaneously. > > There is no intent for an organized regional LPL structure (such as > outlined or experimented with previously/historically by LPL.) This > is their best operational approach to coming together and building and > growing. They understand that these are separate PECs. > > They want to do it together because they are operating like a > community. They are small right now but they plan to grow and evolve > to hold separate meetings. There are multiple needs for making this > work..as far as characteristics in leadership. There is a certain > amount of energy needed for success or participation will not get off > the ground. Each individual has something to contribute, and at this > time they are enjoying the support of each other. They are building > relationships and encouraging each other. They need to feel good > about what they are getting into. > > I think we have to let that evolve organically. Look at it on a map. > Houma is right there in the middle. These people share a culture. > They call themselves "bayou region" and it has nothing to do with > LPL. They share the same geographical characteristics and lifestyle. > > Many of them have worked together supporting Ron Paul for the past > eight years. They like meeting at David Mounts office. The first > meeting (21 people) was about half Ron Paul half new folks I called... > half were registered LPL. The second meeting had 21 people but a > different mix, almost all reg LPL. There is a good group dynamics. > They are all getting to know each other, building relationships, > sharing ideas and visions of what they want their community to look > like. This is an "event" they are taking part in producing... to > kickoff a long term three year commitment. They are excited that they > can make a change. We talked about Walter Block coming out and saying > a few words. > > I think with volunteers you have to give them choices and let them > have input. Otherwise they do not show up. It is important to > respect those that show up. (Not the interest of those we called who > said that they were not interested.) This might be the perfect example > of local knows best. > > > > > On 2/21/2013 10:50 AM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >> Wendy, >> >> First, I'd like to thank you for your hard work and effort to make >> these events happen. I know from experience they are not easy. >> >> I can understand the desire to want to combine the events. But doing >> so is against their purpose. >> >> Before I explain further, I have two questions: >> >> >> >> #1 - Are they intending to form a tri-parish/regional PEC? >> >> or >> >> #2 - Do they intend to hold 3 separate simultaneous meetings in the >> same room or in separate rooms in the same location, or consecutively >> one after the other in the same location? >> >> >> In short, what is the purpose and intention of holding a single >> caucus in Houma? >> >> > On Wed 20 Feb 2013 11:16:53 PM CST, Wendy Adams wrote: Adrien, No one thought this..."Also, they need 5 registered libertarians in each parish at each caucus. Someone from Terrebonne can't count for Lafourche for example, and they can't vote for people for a PEC that isn't their parish. If that's what they were planning on - that's right out. " The examples you gave are like comparing apples and oranges...Franklin and Houma? This is the Bayou Region and the three parishes are adjacent. We called every single registered LP in every parish and invited them to the planning meeting. Every adult in that room who took the time out of their schedule to attend the meeting was perfectly capable of analyzing whether or not it was appropriate. The points you brought up were addressed and discussed. Twenty of them voted unanimously to do it like this and they were excited about it. We are calling everyone back and offering a ride to anyone who needs a ride. It is a Saturday night. The planing meeting is 6 weeks and 4 days away from the night they scheduled. We told them they are their own independent organization. I pulled up the Parish Caucus Meeting Agenda on a big screen and read them this,: "These new Parish Executive Councils (PEC's) are now the primary organizational unit of the Party. We know the maxim that ALL politics are local, and it makes perfect sense to decentralize the party and facilitate party activities on the local level. The PEC's will be responsible for all party activities within their parish, including but not limited to: membership drives, educational outreach, working with local elected of?cials, community involvement, local fund raising, ?nding candidates to run for local of?ce, and assisting local and statewide election campaigns. While the State Party has created a few programs to help coordinate these activities, each parish has autonomy to conduct its business as it sees ?t. (within the limits of state law, and national/state party by-laws) You're telling me that there is no rule or lay that says they can not. Are you sure you want me to tell them you said they cant do it because you think it wouldn't be appropriate? On 2/20/2013 10:40 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: Thanks for the update. I'm very happy to see activism again in that neck of the woods. Holding a combined planning meeting is one thing. I don't particularly favor it for this very reason, but I'm not going to "outlaw it." However, the caucuses must be held separately in each parish. They don't all have to be on the same night. If they want to stagger them, and help each other out for each one, that is fine. It wouldn't be right, for example, to hold the Tangipahoa caucus in East Baton Rouge, or the New Orleans caucus in Mandeville. Yet this is similar to what they are proposing. They want to hold a caucus for three parishes in one. That means people two parishes away have to travel further. Carpooling or not, it isn't appropriate. Would they think it appropriate to hold elections for Franklin's city council in Houma? This IS an election (though not to public office) and should be conducted accordingly. It should be held if at all possible in the jurisdiction it is for. Also, they need 5 registered libertarians in each parish at each caucus. Someone from Terrebonne can't count for Lafourche for example, and they can't vote for people for a PEC that isn't their parish. If that's what they were planning on - that's right out. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On Wed 20 Feb 2013 09:25:42 PM CST, Wendy Adams wrote: Hi Adrien! The meeting went great last night! We had 21 people in attendance. They are all on board for caucus. We set the caucus for Saturday April 6th at 7:30pm in Houma. Everyone took a vote and they unanimously decided they wanted to hold all three parishes together in Houma. They like working together. I tried to talk them out of it, but we've already called all registered LPs.. we are going to call all of the actives and offer them a ride if needed. I had told them that this was their show.. so unless there anything that would prohibit them from doing it like that.. I guess thats fine huh? -Wendy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chairman at lplouisiana.org Fri Feb 22 11:56:26 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 11:56:26 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Bayou Parishes Message-ID: <5127B14A.3050206@lplouisiana.org> The situation has been resolved, but I'd still like everyone's opinion on the issue for the future if you have one. I think what settled the matter is that we aren't sure yet how holding a combined caucus would look legally to the SoS and how that would affect formal recognition of the PEC with the State. I'm also going to have to look into the procedure for getting these PEC's recognized since the State doesn't handle their elections. 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You can RSVP here: http://www.meetup.com/LPLouisiana/events/102691642/ If you haven't already, please pass this link on to anyone you think might be interested. And whomever has access to the LPL facebook page, please log in to meetup, hit the link at the top of the even for telling your facebook friends. This will bring you to the facebook login. Do that and it should prompt you from there to send an invite to anyone on the LPL's friend list. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Also, Jefferson and Orleans Parishes have set tentative dates for their caucuses, details coming soon. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Finally, still in the planning stages are Jackson, Lincoln, Tangipaho, and West Feliciana. We also have organizers appointed for Avoyelles, Bossier, Calcasieu, Ouachita, and Rapides but I have not heard anything out of those areas since the organizers were appointed. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ That's 3 down (but that all need some work) 6 to be formed over the next two months, 4 more in the works, and 5 more with potential for this year. If we can complete all of these, we will have 18 organized parishes by December. More may be possible. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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My 2 cents worth... --------------------------- Howard Kearney Membership -----Original Message----- From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of Adrien Monteleone Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 11:56 AM To: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Bayou Parishes The situation has been resolved, but I'd still like everyone's opinion on the issue for the future if you have one. I think what settled the matter is that we aren't sure yet how holding a combined caucus would look legally to the SoS and how that would affect formal recognition of the PEC with the State. I'm also going to have to look into the procedure for getting these PEC's recognized since the State doesn't handle their elections. As for the caucuses themselves, the details are being worked on right now, and I will report back to you all when they are set, as well as get them posted online. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana From chairman at lplouisiana.org Fri Feb 22 12:39:24 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 12:39:24 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Bayou Parishes In-Reply-To: <000e01ce112b$8f07ebd0$ad17c370$@org> References: <5127B14A.3050206@lplouisiana.org> <000e01ce112b$8f07ebd0$ad17c370$@org> Message-ID: <5127BB5C.8010000@lplouisiana.org> Thanks Howard, With inflation, that's more like a quarter or so today though! Unfortunately, you can no longer call anyone for that amount! In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 2/22/13 12:36 PM, Membership LPL wrote: > I like the clarity of keeping things at a Parish level. And that each Parish > residents elect their own residents within their own geographic parish. This > eliminates any potential future questions about the selection of > representatives. > > My 2 cents worth... > > > --------------------------- > Howard Kearney > Membership > > -----Original Message----- > From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On > Behalf Of Adrien Monteleone > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 11:56 AM > To: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors > Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Bayou Parishes > > The situation has been resolved, but I'd still like everyone's opinion on > the issue for the future if you have one. > > I think what settled the matter is that we aren't sure yet how holding a > combined caucus would look legally to the SoS and how that would affect > formal recognition of the PEC with the State. > > I'm also going to have to look into the procedure for getting these PEC's > recognized since the State doesn't handle their elections. > > As for the caucuses themselves, the details are being worked on right now, > and I will report back to you all when they are set, as well as get them > posted online. > > -- > In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: chairman.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 283 bytes Desc: not available URL: From finance at lplouisiana.org Fri Feb 22 13:14:03 2013 From: finance at lplouisiana.org (Wes Benedict) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 13:14:03 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Bayou Parishes In-Reply-To: <5127B14A.3050206@lplouisiana.org> References: <5127B14A.3050206@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <5127C37B.2090805@lplouisiana.org> I'm going to be fine however the committee decides to handle this, though I lean slightly towards preferring to hold the official parish organizing elections within the parish. I think it would be perfectly fine to hold preparation meetings outside of the parish. There are quite a few examples of groups holding meetings outside of their geographic districts. A few examples, LP California had it's 2011 state convention just across the border in Nevada. In Texas they have precinct conventions, and often all of the precinct conventions are at one single place in a county. However, our Chairman, in other emails, pointed out many good reasons why it's better to hold parish events within the parish if official elections will be happening. If there's no law prohibiting it, I don't think it would be illegal or invalid to hold it in an adjacent parish. Just not as clean. Things like this usually don't matter until there is a struggle for control. Plenty of Californians accused the planners of their conventions of deliberately making it hard for some others to attend so they couldn't vote. In fact, one year LP California held their convention off-shore on a cruise ship. Definitely failed the smell test. --Wes Benedict Adrien Monteleone wrote, On 2/22/2013 11:56 AM: > The situation has been resolved, but I'd still like everyone's opinion > on the issue for the future if you have one. > > I think what settled the matter is that we aren't sure yet how holding > a combined caucus would look legally to the SoS and how that would > affect formal recognition of the PEC with the State. > > I'm also going to have to look into the procedure for getting these > PEC's recognized since the State doesn't handle their elections. > > As for the caucuses themselves, the details are being worked on right > now, and I will report back to you all when they are set, as well as > get them posted online. > > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Paladin at LPLouisiana.org Fri Feb 22 21:31:39 2013 From: Paladin at LPLouisiana.org (T Lee Horne III) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 22:31:39 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Bayou Parishes In-Reply-To: <5127B14A.3050206@lplouisiana.org> References: <5127B14A.3050206@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <000001ce1176$4e0979a0$ea1c6ce0$@org> For clarity of purpose and clarity as to just who is being represented by which group, regardless of precedent and regardless if allowed by state or federal laws, I believe each must be held in the respective parish. T Lee Horne, III Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 tleehorneiii at gmail.com Paladin at lpLouisiana.org 318-542-4445 google voice tleehorneiii skype -----Original Message----- From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of Adrien Monteleone Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 12:56 PM To: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Bayou Parishes The situation has been resolved, but I'd still like everyone's opinion on the issue for the future if you have one. I think what settled the matter is that we aren't sure yet how holding a combined caucus would look legally to the SoS and how that would affect formal recognition of the PEC with the State. I'm also going to have to look into the procedure for getting these PEC's recognized since the State doesn't handle their elections. As for the caucuses themselves, the details are being worked on right now, and I will report back to you all when they are set, as well as get them posted online. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana From finance at lplouisiana.org Sun Feb 24 15:14:55 2013 From: finance at lplouisiana.org (Wes Benedict) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 15:14:55 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Monthly pledge letter and calling In-Reply-To: <5112CE3F.1080507@lplouisiana.org> References: <1360186187.89335.YahooMailNeo@web160804.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <5112CE3F.1080507@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <512A82CF.8040508@lplouisiana.org> I have a proposal that I would like feedback from the committee on before I decide to go forward or not. I'd like to personally write a short fundraising letter asking people to sign up for a monthly pledge to the LP Louisiana. The letter would primarily talk about how we have hired an executive director and that is critical for getting the LP Louisiana more organized. I would personally write and design the letter and the contribution form and print and mail them to about 150 contacts in Louisiana. I would then follow up a few days later with phone calls and would ask a couple people to help me with the phone calls. I've personally written lots of fundraising letters in the past for the LP Texas and the national LP. I got the monthly pledge up in Texas from a few hundred per month to over $4,300 per month at one point in 2008, and got the national LP from about $20,000 to $34,000 per month from 2009 to 2011. The design of the contribution form is critical to getting people to willingly sign up for a monthly pledge. Perhaps I'll design the form so it can easily be used by volunteers for other purposes as well. Since Louisiana is much smaller than Texas, I'm mainly hoping to get our monthly pledge to about $500 per month in the next couple of months, and $1,000 per month by the end of the year. I signed up for a $30 per month pledge myself yesterday here: https://secure.piryx.com/donate/3rejnkrb/Libertarian-Party-of-Louisiana/MonthlyPledge This is about all I can handle before the next state committee meeting. A reliable monthly pledge would help our state party a lot, but the effort also usually generates significant one-time donations as well. I realize Reed Ebarb has been sending fundraising letters and I think he should continue that. I just want the one I send to be spaced 3 to 4 weeks apart from the ones he sends. Your thoughts? --Wes Benedict Finance Officer 512-659-8896 From treasurer at lplouisiana.org Sun Feb 24 18:08:36 2013 From: treasurer at lplouisiana.org (treasurer at lplouisiana.org) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 18:08:36 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Monthly pledge letter and calling In-Reply-To: <512A82CF.8040508@lplouisiana.org> References: <1360186187.89335.YahooMailNeo@web160804.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <5112CE3F.1080507@lplouisiana.org> <512A82CF.8040508@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <4d4ac6652dadc132fd99db51a5fb8f7d.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> I just sent out fund-raising letters so I would wait until late March. I love this idea though. > I have a proposal that I would like feedback from the committee on > before I decide to go forward or not. > > I'd like to personally write a short fundraising letter asking people to > sign up for a monthly pledge to the LP Louisiana. The letter would > primarily talk about how we have hired an executive director and that is > critical for getting the LP Louisiana more organized. > > I would personally write and design the letter and the contribution form > and print and mail them to about 150 contacts in Louisiana. I would > then follow up a few days later with phone calls and would ask a couple > people to help me with the phone calls. > > I've personally written lots of fundraising letters in the past for the > LP Texas and the national LP. I got the monthly pledge up in Texas from > a few hundred per month to over $4,300 per month at one point in 2008, > and got the national LP from about $20,000 to $34,000 per month from > 2009 to 2011. > > The design of the contribution form is critical to getting people to > willingly sign up for a monthly pledge. Perhaps I'll design the form so > it can easily be used by volunteers for other purposes as well. > > Since Louisiana is much smaller than Texas, I'm mainly hoping to get our > monthly pledge to about $500 per month in the next couple of months, and > $1,000 per month by the end of the year. > > I signed up for a $30 per month pledge myself yesterday here: > https://secure.piryx.com/donate/3rejnkrb/Libertarian-Party-of-Louisiana/MonthlyPledge > > This is about all I can handle before the next state committee meeting. > > A reliable monthly pledge would help our state party a lot, but the > effort also usually generates significant one-time donations as well. I > realize Reed Ebarb has been sending fundraising letters and I think he > should continue that. I just want the one I send to be spaced 3 to 4 > weeks apart from the ones he sends. > > Your thoughts? > > --Wes Benedict > Finance Officer > 512-659-8896 > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > From fgrif at bellsouth.net Mon Feb 25 07:27:35 2013 From: fgrif at bellsouth.net (Franklin Griffin) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 05:27:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Monthly pledge letter and calling In-Reply-To: <4d4ac6652dadc132fd99db51a5fb8f7d.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <1361798855.84960.YahooMailClassic@web181604.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Unless someone can come up with reasons to the contrary, I have no problems with this.? In fact, I applaud the effort. ? Frank --- On Sun, 2/24/13, treasurer at lplouisiana.org wrote: From: treasurer at lplouisiana.org Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Monthly pledge letter and calling To: "Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors" Date: Sunday, February 24, 2013, 6:08 PM I just sent out fund-raising letters so I would wait until late March. I love this idea though. > I have a proposal that I would like feedback from the committee on > before I decide to go forward or not. > > I'd like to personally write a short fundraising letter asking people to > sign up for a monthly pledge to the LP Louisiana. The letter would > primarily talk about how we have hired an executive director and that is > critical for getting the LP Louisiana more organized. > > I would personally write and design the letter and the contribution form > and print and mail them to about 150 contacts in Louisiana.? I would > then follow up a few days later with phone calls and would ask a couple > people to help me with the phone calls. > > I've personally written lots of fundraising letters in the past for the > LP Texas and the national LP.? I got the monthly pledge up in Texas from > a few hundred per month to over $4,300 per month at one point in 2008, > and got the national LP from about $20,000 to $34,000 per month from > 2009 to 2011. > > The design of the contribution form is critical to getting people to > willingly sign up for a monthly pledge. Perhaps I'll design the form so > it can easily be used by volunteers for other purposes as well. > > Since Louisiana is much smaller than Texas, I'm mainly hoping to get our > monthly pledge to about $500 per month in the next couple of months, and > $1,000 per month by the end of the year. > > I signed up for a $30 per month pledge myself yesterday here: > https://secure.piryx.com/donate/3rejnkrb/Libertarian-Party-of-Louisiana/MonthlyPledge > > This is about all I can handle before the next state committee meeting. > > A reliable monthly pledge would help our state party a lot, but the > effort also usually generates significant one-time donations as well.? I > realize Reed Ebarb has been sending fundraising letters and I think he > should continue that. I just want the one I send to be spaced 3 to 4 > weeks apart from the ones he sends. > > Your thoughts? > > --Wes Benedict > Finance Officer > 512-659-8896 > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tlhorne at yahoo.com Mon Feb 25 08:19:46 2013 From: tlhorne at yahoo.com (T Lee Horne III) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 09:19:46 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Monthly pledge letter and calling In-Reply-To: <512A82CF.8040508@lplouisiana.org> References: <1360186187.89335.YahooMailNeo@web160804.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <5112CE3F.1080507@lplouisiana.org> <512A82CF.8040508@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <001101ce1363$2a960d50$7fc227f0$@com> I think this is a good move. I see Reed has recently sent a letter. I support Reed's suggestion that the letter should wait until the responses are in from Reed's solicitation. T Lee Horne, III Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 tleehorneiii at gmail.com 318-542-4445 google voice tleehorneiii skype -----Original Message----- From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of Wes Benedict Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 4:15 PM To: scc at lplouisiana.org Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Monthly pledge letter and calling I have a proposal that I would like feedback from the committee on before I decide to go forward or not. I'd like to personally write a short fundraising letter asking people to sign up for a monthly pledge to the LP Louisiana. The letter would primarily talk about how we have hired an executive director and that is critical for getting the LP Louisiana more organized. I would personally write and design the letter and the contribution form and print and mail them to about 150 contacts in Louisiana. I would then follow up a few days later with phone calls and would ask a couple people to help me with the phone calls. I've personally written lots of fundraising letters in the past for the LP Texas and the national LP. I got the monthly pledge up in Texas from a few hundred per month to over $4,300 per month at one point in 2008, and got the national LP from about $20,000 to $34,000 per month from 2009 to 2011. The design of the contribution form is critical to getting people to willingly sign up for a monthly pledge. Perhaps I'll design the form so it can easily be used by volunteers for other purposes as well. Since Louisiana is much smaller than Texas, I'm mainly hoping to get our monthly pledge to about $500 per month in the next couple of months, and $1,000 per month by the end of the year. I signed up for a $30 per month pledge myself yesterday here: https://secure.piryx.com/donate/3rejnkrb/Libertarian-Party-of-Louisiana/Mont hlyPledge This is about all I can handle before the next state committee meeting. A reliable monthly pledge would help our state party a lot, but the effort also usually generates significant one-time donations as well. I realize Reed Ebarb has been sending fundraising letters and I think he should continue that. I just want the one I send to be spaced 3 to 4 weeks apart from the ones he sends. Your thoughts? --Wes Benedict Finance Officer 512-659-8896 _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org From Paladin at LPLouisiana.org Mon Feb 25 08:22:19 2013 From: Paladin at LPLouisiana.org (T Lee Horne III) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 09:22:19 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Monthly pledge letter and calling In-Reply-To: <512A82CF.8040508@lplouisiana.org> References: <1360186187.89335.YahooMailNeo@web160804.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <5112CE3F.1080507@lplouisiana.org> <512A82CF.8040508@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <001201ce1363$8620f540$9262dfc0$@org> Wes, I think this is a good move. However, I see Reed has recently sent a letter. I support Reed's suggestion that the letter should wait until the responses are in from Reed's solicitation. T Lee Horne, III Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 tleehorneiii at gmail.com 318-542-4445 google voice tleehorneiii skype -----Original Message----- From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of Wes Benedict Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 4:15 PM To: scc at lplouisiana.org Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Monthly pledge letter and calling I have a proposal that I would like feedback from the committee on before I decide to go forward or not. I'd like to personally write a short fundraising letter asking people to sign up for a monthly pledge to the LP Louisiana. The letter would primarily talk about how we have hired an executive director and that is critical for getting the LP Louisiana more organized. I would personally write and design the letter and the contribution form and print and mail them to about 150 contacts in Louisiana. I would then follow up a few days later with phone calls and would ask a couple people to help me with the phone calls. I've personally written lots of fundraising letters in the past for the LP Texas and the national LP. I got the monthly pledge up in Texas from a few hundred per month to over $4,300 per month at one point in 2008, and got the national LP from about $20,000 to $34,000 per month from 2009 to 2011. The design of the contribution form is critical to getting people to willingly sign up for a monthly pledge. Perhaps I'll design the form so it can easily be used by volunteers for other purposes as well. Since Louisiana is much smaller than Texas, I'm mainly hoping to get our monthly pledge to about $500 per month in the next couple of months, and $1,000 per month by the end of the year. I signed up for a $30 per month pledge myself yesterday here: https://secure.piryx.com/donate/3rejnkrb/Libertarian-Party-of-Louisiana/Mont hlyPledge This is about all I can handle before the next state committee meeting. A reliable monthly pledge would help our state party a lot, but the effort also usually generates significant one-time donations as well. I realize Reed Ebarb has been sending fundraising letters and I think he should continue that. I just want the one I send to be spaced 3 to 4 weeks apart from the ones he sends. Your thoughts? --Wes Benedict Finance Officer 512-659-8896 _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org From chairman at lplouisiana.org Mon Feb 25 12:21:15 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 12:21:15 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Monthly pledge letter and calling In-Reply-To: <512A82CF.8040508@lplouisiana.org> References: <1360186187.89335.YahooMailNeo@web160804.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <5112CE3F.1080507@lplouisiana.org> <512A82CF.8040508@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <512BAB9B.5070401@lplouisiana.org> Sounds good to me Wes! Go for it. As noted, working the timing out with Reed makes sense as well. In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 2/24/13 3:14 PM, Wes Benedict wrote: > I have a proposal that I would like feedback from the committee on before I > decide to go forward or not. > > I'd like to personally write a short fundraising letter asking people to > sign up for a monthly pledge to the LP Louisiana. The letter would primarily > talk about how we have hired an executive director and that is critical for > getting the LP Louisiana more organized. > > I would personally write and design the letter and the contribution form and > print and mail them to about 150 contacts in Louisiana. I would then follow > up a few days later with phone calls and would ask a couple people to help > me with the phone calls. > > I've personally written lots of fundraising letters in the past for the LP > Texas and the national LP. I got the monthly pledge up in Texas from a few > hundred per month to over $4,300 per month at one point in 2008, and got the > national LP from about $20,000 to $34,000 per month from 2009 to 2011. > > The design of the contribution form is critical to getting people to > willingly sign up for a monthly pledge. Perhaps I'll design the form so it > can easily be used by volunteers for other purposes as well. > > Since Louisiana is much smaller than Texas, I'm mainly hoping to get our > monthly pledge to about $500 per month in the next couple of months, and > $1,000 per month by the end of the year. > > I signed up for a $30 per month pledge myself yesterday here: > https://secure.piryx.com/donate/3rejnkrb/Libertarian-Party-of-Louisiana/MonthlyPledge > > > This is about all I can handle before the next state committee meeting. > > A reliable monthly pledge would help our state party a lot, but the effort > also usually generates significant one-time donations as well. I realize > Reed Ebarb has been sending fundraising letters and I think he should > continue that. I just want the one I send to be spaced 3 to 4 weeks apart > from the ones he sends. > > Your thoughts? > > --Wes Benedict > Finance Officer > 512-659-8896 > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: chairman.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 283 bytes Desc: not available URL: From chairman at lplouisiana.org Tue Feb 26 21:29:57 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 21:29:57 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Performance Based Pay amendment to Executive Director contract Message-ID: <512D7DB5.2010203@lplouisiana.org> I'm proposing the following amendment to add a section to Wendy's contract as follows: Performance based pay $1 (one dollar)per registered voter in excess of 8,000 before 1/1/14. Payment to be made quarterly after the initial threshold has been surpassed, and upon calculation of the number of net new voters per the official list purchased from the Secretary of State's office. $5 (five dollars) per new annual dues paying member who attended a successful parish organizing caucus. Payment to be made quarterly after accurate filing of all required paperwork evidencing the caucus, as members sign up and payment is received from Piryx, that match the attendance roster. This will work to provide incentive towards three goals, increased voter registration, increase in organized parishes, and increased funding. The voter registration funding would require only a small percentage of those new voters to sign up as dues paying members to break even. (about 2-5%) The second incentive is really geared towards both organizing new parishes, and bringing in new members as a result of that effort. It would pay for itself, since she only gets a bonus if she gets new members. Thus each quarter, on or about the second pay check (to allow for calculations) we would issue her a bonus payment for the amount earned according to these two criteria. These criteria I think are fair for the effort required, and provide her the means to earn more if she works harder with no upper limit. (and it would all be "paid for" since it is tied to new memberships) In other states where petition drives are held to secure signatures for ballot access, $1-$2 is the typical incentive pay for valid signatures. However, petition signatures generally do not rely on people changing party affiliation. Since this is a much harder goal, but we do not yet know how much work is involved, I think $1 per new LP voter is a reasonable start. The above proposal would offer no upper limit, but as an example, she would qualify for $6,000 for reaching our registration goal of 14,000. This would require in a worst case scenario, 300 new members, or 5% of those 6000 voters to sign up. Considering we are now contacting new voters within a short time span of their registration to get them active, this should be achievable. Also, the proposal above would allow her to qualify for significantly more also with no upper limit and do so only by bringing new money into the treasury to pay for it. If she were to form 25 PECs with only the minimum number of members/officers and got each to sign up as an LPL member, she would qualify for an additional $750. Of course, that would be a minimum, she could earn much more if she brings in more. While I think 10,000 voters is a more likely result, 25 parishes is not out of reach. She's already a few months away from 10 and is almost ready to begin the next batch. I think giving her the room to effectively decide how much she wants to earn this year and tying that extra amount to her bringing it in to pay for it, will achieve the results we are looking for. Thus I am asking for your votes, and/or amendments/discussion/questions on the above Motion to Amend. (no second is required) -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: chairman.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 283 bytes Desc: not available URL: From membership at lplouisiana.org Wed Feb 27 07:02:05 2013 From: membership at lplouisiana.org (Membership LPL) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 07:02:05 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Performance Based Pay amendment to Executive Director contract In-Reply-To: <512D7DB5.2010203@lplouisiana.org> References: <512D7DB5.2010203@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <000001ce14ea$a4cd64f0$ee682ed0$@org> I have a discussion question(s). 1. Are there any concern that this incentive would distract from her other roles as Executive Director? 2.Are there any concern that if others who may have been helping her or doing so independently do not receive any such compensation? --------------------------- Howard Kearney Membership From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of Adrien Monteleone Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 9:30 PM To: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Performance Based Pay amendment to Executive Director contract I'm proposing the following amendment to add a section to Wendy's contract as follows: Performance based pay $1 (one dollar)per registered voter in excess of 8,000 before 1/1/14. Payment to be made quarterly after the initial threshold has been surpassed, and upon calculation of the number of net new voters per the official list purchased from the Secretary of State's office. $5 (five dollars) per new annual dues paying member who attended a successful parish organizing caucus. Payment to be made quarterly after accurate filing of all required paperwork evidencing the caucus, as members sign up and payment is received from Piryx, that match the attendance roster. This will work to provide incentive towards three goals, increased voter registration, increase in organized parishes, and increased funding. The voter registration funding would require only a small percentage of those new voters to sign up as dues paying members to break even. (about 2-5%) The second incentive is really geared towards both organizing new parishes, and bringing in new members as a result of that effort. It would pay for itself, since she only gets a bonus if she gets new members. Thus each quarter, on or about the second pay check (to allow for calculations) we would issue her a bonus payment for the amount earned according to these two criteria. These criteria I think are fair for the effort required, and provide her the means to earn more if she works harder with no upper limit. (and it would all be "paid for" since it is tied to new memberships) In other states where petition drives are held to secure signatures for ballot access, $1-$2 is the typical incentive pay for valid signatures. However, petition signatures generally do not rely on people changing party affiliation. Since this is a much harder goal, but we do not yet know how much work is involved, I think $1 per new LP voter is a reasonable start. The above proposal would offer no upper limit, but as an example, she would qualify for $6,000 for reaching our registration goal of 14,000. This would require in a worst case scenario, 300 new members, or 5% of those 6000 voters to sign up. Considering we are now contacting new voters within a short time span of their registration to get them active, this should be achievable. Also, the proposal above would allow her to qualify for significantly more also with no upper limit and do so only by bringing new money into the treasury to pay for it. If she were to form 25 PECs with only the minimum number of members/officers and got each to sign up as an LPL member, she would qualify for an additional $750. Of course, that would be a minimum, she could earn much more if she brings in more. While I think 10,000 voters is a more likely result, 25 parishes is not out of reach. She's already a few months away from 10 and is almost ready to begin the next batch. I think giving her the room to effectively decide how much she wants to earn this year and tying that extra amount to her bringing it in to pay for it, will achieve the results we are looking for. Thus I am asking for your votes, and/or amendments/discussion/questions on the above Motion to Amend. (no second is required) -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Paladin at LPLouisiana.org Wed Feb 27 09:48:48 2013 From: Paladin at LPLouisiana.org (T Lee Horne III) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 10:48:48 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Performance Based Pay amendment to Executive Director contract In-Reply-To: <512D7DB5.2010203@lplouisiana.org> References: <512D7DB5.2010203@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <001101ce1501$f38519a0$da8f4ce0$@org> I am in favor of the proposed amendments. I favor incentive based pay and since the job she is doing is increasing the membership and the net cash in the bank, paying more for more work is quite reasonable. I do not see any conflict as relates to the volunteers who work with the Executive Director. Volunteers are working at will and for free in their spare time, they have never been paid and I don't expect we will ever pay volunteers. As the party grows and there is more work, we expect will be hiring staff to work under the Executive Director. There is as I appreciate it, a bright line legally between volunteers and the Executive Director and the staff of the Executive Director. T Lee Horne, III Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 tleehorneiii at gmail.com Paladin at lplouisiana.org 318-542-4445 Google voice tleehorneiii Skype From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of Adrien Monteleone Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 10:30 PM To: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Performance Based Pay amendment to Executive Director contract I'm proposing the following amendment to add a section to Wendy's contract as follows: Performance based pay $1 (one dollar)per registered voter in excess of 8,000 before 1/1/14. Payment to be made quarterly after the initial threshold has been surpassed, and upon calculation of the number of net new voters per the official list purchased from the Secretary of State's office. $5 (five dollars) per new annual dues paying member who attended a successful parish organizing caucus. Payment to be made quarterly after accurate filing of all required paperwork evidencing the caucus, as members sign up and payment is received from Piryx, that match the attendance roster. This will work to provide incentive towards three goals, increased voter registration, increase in organized parishes, and increased funding. The voter registration funding would require only a small percentage of those new voters to sign up as dues paying members to break even. (about 2-5%) The second incentive is really geared towards both organizing new parishes, and bringing in new members as a result of that effort. It would pay for itself, since she only gets a bonus if she gets new members. Thus each quarter, on or about the second pay check (to allow for calculations) we would issue her a bonus payment for the amount earned according to these two criteria. These criteria I think are fair for the effort required, and provide her the means to earn more if she works harder with no upper limit. (and it would all be "paid for" since it is tied to new memberships) In other states where petition drives are held to secure signatures for ballot access, $1-$2 is the typical incentive pay for valid signatures. However, petition signatures generally do not rely on people changing party affiliation. Since this is a much harder goal, but we do not yet know how much work is involved, I think $1 per new LP voter is a reasonable start. The above proposal would offer no upper limit, but as an example, she would qualify for $6,000 for reaching our registration goal of 14,000. This would require in a worst case scenario, 300 new members, or 5% of those 6000 voters to sign up. Considering we are now contacting new voters within a short time span of their registration to get them active, this should be achievable. Also, the proposal above would allow her to qualify for significantly more also with no upper limit and do so only by bringing new money into the treasury to pay for it. If she were to form 25 PECs with only the minimum number of members/officers and got each to sign up as an LPL member, she would qualify for an additional $750. Of course, that would be a minimum, she could earn much more if she brings in more. While I think 10,000 voters is a more likely result, 25 parishes is not out of reach. She's already a few months away from 10 and is almost ready to begin the next batch. I think giving her the room to effectively decide how much she wants to earn this year and tying that extra amount to her bringing it in to pay for it, will achieve the results we are looking for. Thus I am asking for your votes, and/or amendments/discussion/questions on the above Motion to Amend. (no second is required) -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana This message has been processed by Firetrust Benign. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chairman at lplouisiana.org Wed Feb 27 13:05:18 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 13:05:18 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Performance Based Pay amendment to Executive Director contract In-Reply-To: <000001ce14ea$a4cd64f0$ee682ed0$@org> References: <512D7DB5.2010203@lplouisiana.org> <000001ce14ea$a4cd64f0$ee682ed0$@org> Message-ID: <512E58EE.7050608@lplouisiana.org> Howard, To your #1: I've attached a copy of her contract. Sorry I didn't send it over sooner as promised after the meeting. Everyone should have a copy for full disclosure. You will see in the Goals & Services sections, that she is already tasked with performing these duties so there should be no conflict. One may ask then, "Why provide an incentive to do what we are already paying her to do?" These incentives are to pay her for meeting specific goals set by the Strategic Planning Committee above and beyond her routine tasks of communicating with members to help facilitate our projects. When we created the contract, we envisioned she would be more of a coordinator and facilitator than someone doing the bulk of the work, for say, organizing parishes. That is the primary task of the Vice-Chairman and the Parish Organizers. She was envisioned to play a supporting role here. In practice, it seems she is playing a major role in this effortand thus is working beyond what we originally set out for her. Theincentives are also designed to provide room for her to make more money if she works harder. Currently, she could conceivable raise a considerable sum for us, and still only be paid $13k this year. She's willing to do the work to build the party because she believes in the LPand more specifically, the LPL, but she is fast approaching the point where what we are paying her will be insufficient and she'll have to find a second job and cut back on her LPL work. She enjoys what she is doing for us, and is willing to work for lessnow, so she can build us up to be able to pay her more down the road. She is presently making up the difference with savings, which are about to run out. I think the incentive based option allows for some breathing room for her, helps us accomplish our goals, and is designed not to put us in financial straits. There is also the issue I discovered while speaking to her last night that she has the perception that she is raising money for us, but not being compensated for it. I explained that at present, she is receiving the bulk of ANY funds raised by anyone. I'll draw up a P&L or something to illustrate it better for everyone, but I think she just didn't see that nearly everything we collect goes to pay her on her base contractpresently. There's no "money on the table" after it's all said and done. I think this is largely due, not so much to how things are presently structured, but that her contract is just for way too little, compared to what she needs, to meet living expenses. When one is working 50-60 hours a week and is making $250 a week doing it, they will likely get frustrated in short order. Hopefully our talk last night, and these incentive options can serve to relieve those frustrations and keep her working hard for the LPL. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To your #2: I think T. Lee addressed that as well or better than I could. (and certainly with less words) In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 2/27/13 7:02 AM, Membership LPL wrote: > > I have a discussion question(s). > > 1. Are there any concern that this incentive would distract from her other > roles as Executive Director? > > 2.Are there any concern that if others who may have been helping her or > doing so independently do not receive any such compensation? > > --------------------------- > > Howard Kearney > > Membership > > *From:*scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] *On > Behalf Of *Adrien Monteleone > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 26, 2013 9:30 PM > *To:* Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors > *Subject:* [LPL Board of Directors] Performance Based Pay amendment to > Executive Director contract > > I'm proposing the following amendment to add a section to Wendy's contract > as follows: > > Performance based pay > > $1 (one dollar)per registered voter in excess of 8,000 before 1/1/14. > Payment to be made quarterly after the initial threshold has been surpassed, > and upon calculation of the number of net new voters per the official list > purchased from the Secretary of State's office. > > $5 (five dollars) per new annual dues paying member who attended a > successful parish organizing caucus. Payment to be made quarterly after > accurate filing of all required paperwork evidencing the caucus, as members > sign up and payment is received from Piryx, that match the attendance roster. > > > This will work to provide incentive towards three goals, increased voter > registration, increase in organized parishes, and increased funding. > > The voter registration funding would require only a small percentage of > those new voters to sign up as dues paying members to break even. (about 2-5%) > > The second incentive is really geared towards both organizing new parishes, > and bringing in new members as a result of that effort. It would pay for > itself, since she only gets a bonus if she gets new members. > > Thus each quarter, on or about the second pay check (to allow for > calculations) we would issue her a bonus payment for the amount earned > according to these two criteria. > > These criteria I think are fair for the effort required, and provide her the > means to earn more if she works harder with no upper limit. (and it would > all be "paid for" since it is tied to new memberships) > > In other states where petition drives are held to secure signatures for > ballot access, $1-$2 is the typical incentive pay for valid signatures. > However, petition signatures generally do not rely on people changing party > affiliation. Since this is a much harder goal, but we do not yet know how > much work is involved, I think $1 per new LP voter is a reasonable start. > > The above proposal would offer no upper limit, but as an example, she would > qualify for $6,000 for reaching our registration goal of 14,000. This would > require in a worst case scenario, 300 new members, or 5% of those 6000 > voters to sign up. Considering we are now contacting new voters within a > short time span of their registration to get them active, this should be > achievable. > > Also, the proposal above would allow her to qualify for significantly more > also with no upper limit and do so only by bringing new money into the > treasury to pay for it. If she were to form 25 PECs with only the minimum > number of members/officers and got each to sign up as an LPL member, she > would qualify for an additional $750. Of course, that would be a minimum, > she could earn much more if she brings in more. > > While I think 10,000 voters is a more likely result, 25 parishes is not out > of reach. She's already a few months away from 10 and is almost ready to > begin the next batch. > > I think giving her the room to effectively decide how much she wants to earn > this year and tying that extra amount to her bringing it in to pay for it, > will achieve the results we are looking for. > > > Thus I am asking for your votes, and/or amendments/discussion/questions on > the above Motion to Amend. > > (no second is required) > > > -- > In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I vote Aye for the motion before us. --------------------------- Howard Kearney Membership From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of Adrien Monteleone Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 1:05 PM To: scc at lplouisiana.org Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Performance Based Pay amendment to Executive Director contract Howard, To your #1: I've attached a copy of her contract. Sorry I didn't send it over sooner as promised after the meeting. Everyone should have a copy for full disclosure. You will see in the Goals & Services sections, that she is already tasked with performing these duties so there should be no conflict. One may ask then, "Why provide an incentive to do what we are already paying her to do?" These incentives are to pay her for meeting specific goals set by the Strategic Planning Committee above and beyond her routine tasks of communicating with members to help facilitate our projects. When we created the contract, we envisioned she would be more of a coordinator and facilitator than someone doing the bulk of the work, for say, organizing parishes. That is the primary task of the Vice-Chairman and the Parish Organizers. She was envisioned to play a supporting role here. In practice, it seems she is playing a major role in this effort and thus is working beyond what we originally set out for her. The incentives are also designed to provide room for her to make more money if she works harder. Currently, she could conceivable raise a considerable sum for us, and still only be paid $13k this year. She's willing to do the work to build the party because she believes in the LP and more specifically, the LPL, but she is fast approaching the point where what we are paying her will be insufficient and she'll have to find a second job and cut back on her LPL work. She enjoys what she is doing for us, and is willing to work for less now, so she can build us up to be able to pay her more down the road. She is presently making up the difference with savings, which are about to run out. I think the incentive based option allows for some breathing room for her, helps us accomplish our goals, and is designed not to put us in financial straits. There is also the issue I discovered while speaking to her last night that she has the perception that she is raising money for us, but not being compensated for it. I explained that at present, she is receiving the bulk of ANY funds raised by anyone. I'll draw up a P&L or something to illustrate it better for everyone, but I think she just didn't see that nearly everything we collect goes to pay her on her base contract presently. There's no "money on the table" after it's all said and done. I think this is largely due, not so much to how things are presently structured, but that her contract is just for way too little, compared to what she needs, to meet living expenses. When one is working 50-60 hours a week and is making $250 a week doing it, they will likely get frustrated in short order. Hopefully our talk last night, and these incentive options can serve to relieve those frustrations and keep her working hard for the LPL. _____ To your #2: I think T. Lee addressed that as well or better than I could. (and certainly with less words) In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 2/27/13 7:02 AM, Membership LPL wrote: I have a discussion question(s). 1. Are there any concern that this incentive would distract from her other roles as Executive Director? 2.Are there any concern that if others who may have been helping her or doing so independently do not receive any such compensation? --------------------------- Howard Kearney Membership From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of Adrien Monteleone Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 9:30 PM To: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Performance Based Pay amendment to Executive Director contract I'm proposing the following amendment to add a section to Wendy's contract as follows: Performance based pay $1 (one dollar)per registered voter in excess of 8,000 before 1/1/14. Payment to be made quarterly after the initial threshold has been surpassed, and upon calculation of the number of net new voters per the official list purchased from the Secretary of State's office. $5 (five dollars) per new annual dues paying member who attended a successful parish organizing caucus. Payment to be made quarterly after accurate filing of all required paperwork evidencing the caucus, as members sign up and payment is received from Piryx, that match the attendance roster. This will work to provide incentive towards three goals, increased voter registration, increase in organized parishes, and increased funding. The voter registration funding would require only a small percentage of those new voters to sign up as dues paying members to break even. (about 2-5%) The second incentive is really geared towards both organizing new parishes, and bringing in new members as a result of that effort. It would pay for itself, since she only gets a bonus if she gets new members. Thus each quarter, on or about the second pay check (to allow for calculations) we would issue her a bonus payment for the amount earned according to these two criteria. These criteria I think are fair for the effort required, and provide her the means to earn more if she works harder with no upper limit. (and it would all be "paid for" since it is tied to new memberships) In other states where petition drives are held to secure signatures for ballot access, $1-$2 is the typical incentive pay for valid signatures. However, petition signatures generally do not rely on people changing party affiliation. Since this is a much harder goal, but we do not yet know how much work is involved, I think $1 per new LP voter is a reasonable start. The above proposal would offer no upper limit, but as an example, she would qualify for $6,000 for reaching our registration goal of 14,000. This would require in a worst case scenario, 300 new members, or 5% of those 6000 voters to sign up. Considering we are now contacting new voters within a short time span of their registration to get them active, this should be achievable. Also, the proposal above would allow her to qualify for significantly more also with no upper limit and do so only by bringing new money into the treasury to pay for it. If she were to form 25 PECs with only the minimum number of members/officers and got each to sign up as an LPL member, she would qualify for an additional $750. Of course, that would be a minimum, she could earn much more if she brings in more. While I think 10,000 voters is a more likely result, 25 parishes is not out of reach. She's already a few months away from 10 and is almost ready to begin the next batch. I think giving her the room to effectively decide how much she wants to earn this year and tying that extra amount to her bringing it in to pay for it, will achieve the results we are looking for. Thus I am asking for your votes, and/or amendments/discussion/questions on the above Motion to Amend. (no second is required) -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From elections at lplouisiana.org Thu Feb 28 09:33:09 2013 From: elections at lplouisiana.org (elections at lplouisiana.org) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 09:33:09 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Performance Based Pay amendment to Executive Director contract In-Reply-To: <512D7DB5.2010203@lplouisiana.org> References: <512D7DB5.2010203@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <18d29410acb58749d363787939a038a2.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> I vote aye. Wendy does wonderful good work and very hard work. I am sure that she will be able to meet those goals and exceed them before the date listed. I wish we had 100 more of her. Boyd Smith > I'm proposing the following amendment to add a section to Wendy's contract as follows: > > Performance based pay > > $1 (one dollar)per registered voter in excess of 8,000 before 1/1/14. > Payment > to be made quarterly after the initial threshold has been surpassed, and > upon > calculation of the number of net new voters per the official list > purchased > from the Secretary of State's office. > > $5 (five dollars) per new annual dues paying member who attended a > successful > parish organizing caucus. Payment to be made quarterly after accurate > filing > of all required paperwork evidencing the caucus, as members sign up and > payment is received from Piryx, that match the attendance roster. > > > This will work to provide incentive towards three goals, increased voter > registration, increase in organized parishes, and increased funding. > > The voter registration funding would require only a small percentage of > those > new voters to sign up as dues paying members to break even. (about 2-5%) > > The second incentive is really geared towards both organizing new > parishes, > and bringing in new members as a result of that effort. It would pay for > itself, since she only gets a bonus if she gets new members. > > Thus each quarter, on or about the second pay check (to allow for > calculations) we would issue her a bonus payment for the amount earned > according to these two criteria. > > These criteria I think are fair for the effort required, and provide her > the > means to earn more if she works harder with no upper limit. (and it would > all > be "paid for" since it is tied to new memberships) > > In other states where petition drives are held to secure signatures for > ballot > access, $1-$2 is the typical incentive pay for valid signatures. However, > petition signatures generally do not rely on people changing party > affiliation. Since this is a much harder goal, but we do not yet know how > much work is involved, I think $1 per new LP voter is a reasonable start. > > The above proposal would offer no upper limit, but as an example, she > would > qualify for $6,000 for reaching our registration goal of 14,000. This > would > require in a worst case scenario, 300 new members, or 5% of those 6000 > voters > to sign up. Considering we are now contacting new voters within a short > time > span of their registration to get them active, this should be achievable. > > Also, the proposal above would allow her to qualify for significantly more > also with no upper limit and do so only by bringing new money into the > treasury to pay for it. If she were to form 25 PECs with only the minimum > number of members/officers and got each to sign up as an LPL member, she > would > qualify for an additional $750. Of course, that would be a minimum, she > could > earn much more if she brings in more. > > While I think 10,000 voters is a more likely result, 25 parishes is not > out of > reach. She's already a few months away from 10 and is almost ready to > begin > the next batch. > > I think giving her the room to effectively decide how much she wants to > earn > this year and tying that extra amount to her bringing it in to pay for it, > will achieve the results we are looking for. > > > Thus I am asking for your votes, and/or amendments/discussion/questions on > the > above Motion to Amend. > > (no second is required) > > -- > In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > From chairman at lplouisiana.org Thu Feb 28 12:52:55 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 12:52:55 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Performance Based Pay amendment to Executive Director contract In-Reply-To: <18d29410acb58749d363787939a038a2.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> References: <512D7DB5.2010203@lplouisiana.org> <18d29410acb58749d363787939a038a2.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <512FA787.2030709@lplouisiana.org> Thanks for the votes Lee, Howard & Boyd. The current tally is: Mr. Horne - Aye Mr. Kearney - Aye Mr. Smith - Aye Not voted yet: Mr. Lewis Mr. Ebarb Mr. Benedict Mr. Thompson Mr. Griffin Mr. Monteleone (the chair will wait till last to vote per Robert's protocol) Five votes are needed for a quorum, and a majority of those are needed for passage. Thus we need one more vote, yay or nay, besides my own to proceed. Please get your votes in soon. I'd like to tell her what these new terms are and have her sign them in person at the caucus tonight. In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 2/28/13 9:33 AM, elections at lplouisiana.org wrote: > I vote aye. Wendy does wonderful good work and very hard work. I am sure > that she will be able to meet those goals and exceed them before the date > listed. I wish we had 100 more of her. > > Boyd Smith > >> I'm proposing the following amendment to add a section to Wendy's > contract as follows: >> Performance based pay >> >> $1 (one dollar)per registered voter in excess of 8,000 before 1/1/14. >> Payment >> to be made quarterly after the initial threshold has been surpassed, and >> upon >> calculation of the number of net new voters per the official list >> purchased >> from the Secretary of State's office. >> >> $5 (five dollars) per new annual dues paying member who attended a >> successful >> parish organizing caucus. Payment to be made quarterly after accurate >> filing >> of all required paperwork evidencing the caucus, as members sign up and >> payment is received from Piryx, that match the attendance roster. >> >> >> This will work to provide incentive towards three goals, increased voter >> registration, increase in organized parishes, and increased funding. >> >> The voter registration funding would require only a small percentage of >> those >> new voters to sign up as dues paying members to break even. (about 2-5%) >> >> The second incentive is really geared towards both organizing new >> parishes, >> and bringing in new members as a result of that effort. It would pay for >> itself, since she only gets a bonus if she gets new members. >> >> Thus each quarter, on or about the second pay check (to allow for >> calculations) we would issue her a bonus payment for the amount earned >> according to these two criteria. >> >> These criteria I think are fair for the effort required, and provide her >> the >> means to earn more if she works harder with no upper limit. (and it would >> all >> be "paid for" since it is tied to new memberships) >> >> In other states where petition drives are held to secure signatures for >> ballot >> access, $1-$2 is the typical incentive pay for valid signatures. However, >> petition signatures generally do not rely on people changing party >> affiliation. Since this is a much harder goal, but we do not yet know how >> much work is involved, I think $1 per new LP voter is a reasonable start. >> >> The above proposal would offer no upper limit, but as an example, she >> would >> qualify for $6,000 for reaching our registration goal of 14,000. This >> would >> require in a worst case scenario, 300 new members, or 5% of those 6000 >> voters >> to sign up. Considering we are now contacting new voters within a short >> time >> span of their registration to get them active, this should be achievable. >> >> Also, the proposal above would allow her to qualify for significantly more >> also with no upper limit and do so only by bringing new money into the >> treasury to pay for it. If she were to form 25 PECs with only the minimum >> number of members/officers and got each to sign up as an LPL member, she >> would >> qualify for an additional $750. Of course, that would be a minimum, she >> could >> earn much more if she brings in more. >> >> While I think 10,000 voters is a more likely result, 25 parishes is not >> out of >> reach. She's already a few months away from 10 and is almost ready to >> begin >> the next batch. >> >> I think giving her the room to effectively decide how much she wants to >> earn >> this year and tying that extra amount to her bringing it in to pay for it, >> will achieve the results we are looking for. >> >> >> Thus I am asking for your votes, and/or amendments/discussion/questions on >> the >> above Motion to Amend. >> >> (no second is required) >> >> -- >> In Liberty, >> >> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The current tally is: Mr. Horne - Aye Mr. Kearney - Aye Mr. Smith - Aye Not voted yet: Mr. Lewis Mr. Ebarb Mr. Benedict Mr. Thompson Mr. Griffin Mr. Monteleone (the chair will wait till last to vote per Robert's protocol) Five votes are needed for a quorum, and a majority of those are needed for passage. Thus we need one more vote, yay or nay, besides my own to proceed. Please get your votes in soon. I'd like to tell her what these new terms are and have her sign them in person at the caucus tonight. In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 2/28/13 9:33 AM, elections at lplouisiana.org wrote: > I vote aye.? Wendy does wonderful good work and very hard work.? I am sure > that she will be able to meet those goals and exceed them before the date > listed.? I wish we had 100 more of her. > > Boyd Smith > >> I'm proposing the following amendment to add a section to Wendy's > contract as follows: >> Performance based pay >> >> $1 (one dollar)per registered voter in excess of 8,000 before 1/1/14. >> Payment >> to be made quarterly after the initial threshold has been surpassed, and >> upon >> calculation of the number of net new voters per the official list >> purchased >> from the Secretary of State's office. >> >> $5 (five dollars) per new annual dues paying member who attended a >> successful >> parish organizing caucus.? Payment to be made quarterly after accurate >> filing >> of all required paperwork evidencing the caucus, as members sign up and >> payment is received from Piryx, that match the attendance roster. >> >> >> This will work to provide incentive towards three goals, increased voter >> registration, increase in organized parishes, and increased funding. >> >> The voter registration funding would require only a small percentage of >> those >> new voters to sign up as dues paying members to break even. (about 2-5%) >> >> The second incentive is really geared towards both organizing new >> parishes, >> and bringing in new members as a result of that effort. It would pay for >> itself, since she only gets a bonus if she gets new members. >> >> Thus each quarter, on or about the second pay check (to allow for >> calculations) we would issue her a bonus payment for the amount earned >> according to these two criteria. >> >> These criteria I think are fair for the effort required, and provide her >> the >> means to earn more if she works harder with no upper limit. (and it would >> all >> be "paid for" since it is tied to new memberships) >> >> In other states where petition drives are held to secure signatures for >> ballot >> access, $1-$2 is the typical incentive pay for valid signatures.? However, >> petition signatures generally do not rely on people changing party >> affiliation.? Since this is a much harder goal, but we do not yet know how >> much work is involved, I think $1 per new LP voter is a reasonable start. >> >> The above proposal would offer no upper limit, but as an example, she >> would >> qualify for $6,000 for reaching our registration goal of 14,000. This >> would >> require in a worst case scenario, 300 new members, or 5% of those 6000 >> voters >> to sign up.? Considering we are now contacting new voters within a short >> time >> span of their registration to get them active, this should be achievable. >> >> Also, the proposal above would allow her to qualify for significantly more >> also with no upper limit and do so only by bringing new money into the >> treasury to pay for it.? If she were to form 25 PECs with only the minimum >> number of members/officers and got each to sign up as an LPL member, she >> would >> qualify for an additional $750.? Of course, that would be a minimum, she >> could >> earn much more if she brings in more. >> >> While I think 10,000 voters is a more likely result, 25 parishes is not >> out of >> reach.? She's already a few months away from 10 and is almost ready to >> begin >> the next batch. >> >> I think giving her the room to effectively decide how much she wants to >> earn >> this year and tying that extra amount to her bringing it in to pay for it, >> will achieve the results we are looking for. >> >> >> Thus I am asking for your votes, and/or amendments/discussion/questions on >> the >> above Motion to Amend. >> >> (no second is required) >> >> -- >> In Liberty, >> >> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chairman at lplouisiana.org Thu Feb 28 14:58:56 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 14:58:56 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Performance Based Pay amendment to Executive Director contract In-Reply-To: <1362079783.18571.YahooMailClassic@web181604.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1362079783.18571.YahooMailClassic@web181604.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <512FC510.6040201@lplouisiana.org> Thanks Frank for your vote!! Current results are: Mr. Horne - Aye Mr. Kearney - Aye Mr. Smith - Aye Mr. Griffin - Aye Mr. Monteleone - Aye A quorum has been reached. The votes so far are 5-0 in favor - an absolute majority of the Board having voted in favor - the motion carries. Still not voting: Mr. Lewis Mr. Ebarb Mr. Benedict Mr. Thompson All those who have not yet voted are encouraged to still submit their votes for the record. Thanks to everyone, and I will let Wendy know tonight of her new incentive terms and get her signature. In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 2/28/13 1:29 PM, Franklin Griffin wrote: > AYE MATEY > > --- On *Thu, 2/28/13, Adrien Monteleone //* wrote: > > > From: Adrien Monteleone > Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Performance Based Pay amendment to > Executive Director contract > To: scc at lplouisiana.org > Date: Thursday, February 28, 2013, 12:52 PM > > Thanks for the votes Lee, Howard & Boyd. > > The current tally is: > > Mr. Horne - Aye > Mr. Kearney - Aye > Mr. Smith - Aye > > Not voted yet: > > Mr. Lewis > Mr. Ebarb > Mr. Benedict > Mr. Thompson > Mr. Griffin > Mr. Monteleone (the chair will wait till last to vote per Robert's protocol) > > > > Five votes are needed for a quorum, and a majority of those are needed for > passage. > > Thus we need one more vote, yay or nay, besides my own to proceed. > > Please get your votes in soon. > > I'd like to tell her what these new terms are and have her sign them in > person > at the caucus tonight. > > > > > > In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > On 2/28/13 9:33 AM, elections at lplouisiana.org > wrote: > > I vote aye. Wendy does wonderful good work and very hard work. I am sure > > that she will be able to meet those goals and exceed them before the date > > listed. I wish we had 100 more of her. > > > > Boyd Smith > > > >> I'm proposing the following amendment to add a section to Wendy's > > contract as follows: > >> Performance based pay > >> > >> $1 (one dollar)per registered voter in excess of 8,000 before 1/1/14. > >> Payment > >> to be made quarterly after the initial threshold has been surpassed, and > >> upon > >> calculation of the number of net new voters per the official list > >> purchased > >> from the Secretary of State's office. > >> > >> $5 (five dollars) per new annual dues paying member who attended a > >> successful > >> parish organizing caucus. Payment to be made quarterly after accurate > >> filing > >> of all required paperwork evidencing the caucus, as members sign up and > >> payment is received from Piryx, that match the attendance roster. > >> > >> > >> This will work to provide incentive towards three goals, increased voter > >> registration, increase in organized parishes, and increased funding. > >> > >> The voter registration funding would require only a small percentage of > >> those > >> new voters to sign up as dues paying members to break even. (about 2-5%) > >> > >> The second incentive is really geared towards both organizing new > >> parishes, > >> and bringing in new members as a result of that effort. It would pay for > >> itself, since she only gets a bonus if she gets new members. > >> > >> Thus each quarter, on or about the second pay check (to allow for > >> calculations) we would issue her a bonus payment for the amount earned > >> according to these two criteria. > >> > >> These criteria I think are fair for the effort required, and provide her > >> the > >> means to earn more if she works harder with no upper limit. (and it would > >> all > >> be "paid for" since it is tied to new memberships) > >> > >> In other states where petition drives are held to secure signatures for > >> ballot > >> access, $1-$2 is the typical incentive pay for valid signatures. > However, > >> petition signatures generally do not rely on people changing party > >> affiliation. Since this is a much harder goal, but we do not yet > know how > >> much work is involved, I think $1 per new LP voter is a reasonable start. > >> > >> The above proposal would offer no upper limit, but as an example, she > >> would > >> qualify for $6,000 for reaching our registration goal of 14,000. This > >> would > >> require in a worst case scenario, 300 new members, or 5% of those 6000 > >> voters > >> to sign up. Considering we are now contacting new voters within a short > >> time > >> span of their registration to get them active, this should be achievable. > >> > >> Also, the proposal above would allow her to qualify for significantly > more > >> also with no upper limit and do so only by bringing new money into the > >> treasury to pay for it. If she were to form 25 PECs with only the > minimum > >> number of members/officers and got each to sign up as an LPL member, she > >> would > >> qualify for an additional $750. Of course, that would be a minimum, she > >> could > >> earn much more if she brings in more. > >> > >> While I think 10,000 voters is a more likely result, 25 parishes is not > >> out of > >> reach. She's already a few months away from 10 and is almost ready to > >> begin > >> the next batch. > >> > >> I think giving her the room to effectively decide how much she wants to > >> earn > >> this year and tying that extra amount to her bringing it in to pay > for it, > >> will achieve the results we are looking for. > >> > >> > >> Thus I am asking for your votes, and/or > amendments/discussion/questions on > >> the > >> above Motion to Amend. > >> > >> (no second is required) > >> > >> -- > >> In Liberty, > >> > >> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > >> Libertarian Party of Louisiana > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> SCC mailing list > >> SCC at lplouisiana.org > > >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SCC mailing list > > SCC at lplouisiana.org > > > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: chairman.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 283 bytes Desc: not available URL: From finance at lplouisiana.org Thu Feb 28 15:20:52 2013 From: finance at lplouisiana.org (Wes Benedict) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 15:20:52 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Performance Based Pay amendment to Executive Director contract In-Reply-To: <512FC510.6040201@lplouisiana.org> References: <1362079783.18571.YahooMailClassic@web181604.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <512FC510.6040201@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <512FCA34.2010106@lplouisiana.org> I vote aye. --Wes Benedict Adrien Monteleone wrote, On 2/28/2013 2:58 PM: > Thanks Frank for your vote!! > > Current results are: > > Mr. Horne - Aye > Mr. Kearney - Aye > Mr. Smith - Aye > Mr. Griffin - Aye > Mr. Monteleone - Aye > > A quorum has been reached. > > The votes so far are 5-0 in favor - an absolute majority of the Board > having voted in favor - the motion carries. > > Still not voting: > > Mr. Lewis > Mr. Ebarb > Mr. Benedict > Mr. Thompson > > All those who have not yet voted are encouraged to still submit their > votes for the record. > > Thanks to everyone, and I will let Wendy know tonight of her new > incentive terms and get her signature. > > > > In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > On 2/28/13 1:29 PM, Franklin Griffin wrote: >> AYE MATEY >> >> --- On *Thu, 2/28/13, Adrien Monteleone //* >> wrote: >> >> >> From: Adrien Monteleone >> Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Performance Based Pay >> amendment to Executive Director contract >> To: scc at lplouisiana.org >> Date: Thursday, February 28, 2013, 12:52 PM >> >> Thanks for the votes Lee, Howard & Boyd. >> >> The current tally is: >> >> Mr. Horne - Aye >> Mr. Kearney - Aye >> Mr. Smith - Aye >> >> Not voted yet: >> >> Mr. Lewis >> Mr. Ebarb >> Mr. Benedict >> Mr. Thompson >> Mr. Griffin >> Mr. Monteleone (the chair will wait till last to vote per >> Robert's protocol) >> >> >> >> Five votes are needed for a quorum, and a majority of those are >> needed for >> passage. >> >> Thus we need one more vote, yay or nay, besides my own to proceed. >> >> Please get your votes in soon. >> >> I'd like to tell her what these new terms are and have her sign >> them in person >> at the caucus tonight. >> >> >> >> >> >> In Liberty, >> >> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >> >> On 2/28/13 9:33 AM, elections at lplouisiana.org >> >> wrote: >> > I vote aye. Wendy does wonderful good work and very hard >> work. I am sure >> > that she will be able to meet those goals and exceed them >> before the date >> > listed. I wish we had 100 more of her. >> > >> > Boyd Smith >> > >> >> I'm proposing the following amendment to add a section to Wendy's >> > contract as follows: >> >> Performance based pay >> >> >> >> $1 (one dollar)per registered voter in excess of 8,000 before >> 1/1/14. >> >> Payment >> >> to be made quarterly after the initial threshold has been >> surpassed, and >> >> upon >> >> calculation of the number of net new voters per the official list >> >> purchased >> >> from the Secretary of State's office. >> >> >> >> $5 (five dollars) per new annual dues paying member who attended a >> >> successful >> >> parish organizing caucus. Payment to be made quarterly after >> accurate >> >> filing >> >> of all required paperwork evidencing the caucus, as members >> sign up and >> >> payment is received from Piryx, that match the attendance roster. >> >> >> >> >> >> This will work to provide incentive towards three goals, >> increased voter >> >> registration, increase in organized parishes, and increased >> funding. >> >> >> >> The voter registration funding would require only a small >> percentage of >> >> those >> >> new voters to sign up as dues paying members to break even. >> (about 2-5%) >> >> >> >> The second incentive is really geared towards both organizing new >> >> parishes, >> >> and bringing in new members as a result of that effort. It >> would pay for >> >> itself, since she only gets a bonus if she gets new members. >> >> >> >> Thus each quarter, on or about the second pay check (to allow for >> >> calculations) we would issue her a bonus payment for the >> amount earned >> >> according to these two criteria. >> >> >> >> These criteria I think are fair for the effort required, and >> provide her >> >> the >> >> means to earn more if she works harder with no upper limit. >> (and it would >> >> all >> >> be "paid for" since it is tied to new memberships) >> >> >> >> In other states where petition drives are held to secure >> signatures for >> >> ballot >> >> access, $1-$2 is the typical incentive pay for valid >> signatures. However, >> >> petition signatures generally do not rely on people changing party >> >> affiliation. Since this is a much harder goal, but we do not >> yet know how >> >> much work is involved, I think $1 per new LP voter is a >> reasonable start. >> >> >> >> The above proposal would offer no upper limit, but as an >> example, she >> >> would >> >> qualify for $6,000 for reaching our registration goal of >> 14,000. This >> >> would >> >> require in a worst case scenario, 300 new members, or 5% of >> those 6000 >> >> voters >> >> to sign up. Considering we are now contacting new voters >> within a short >> >> time >> >> span of their registration to get them active, this should be >> achievable. >> >> >> >> Also, the proposal above would allow her to qualify for >> significantly more >> >> also with no upper limit and do so only by bringing new money >> into the >> >> treasury to pay for it. If she were to form 25 PECs with only >> the minimum >> >> number of members/officers and got each to sign up as an LPL >> member, she >> >> would >> >> qualify for an additional $750. Of course, that would be a >> minimum, she >> >> could >> >> earn much more if she brings in more. >> >> >> >> While I think 10,000 voters is a more likely result, 25 >> parishes is not >> >> out of >> >> reach. She's already a few months away from 10 and is almost >> ready to >> >> begin >> >> the next batch. >> >> >> >> I think giving her the room to effectively decide how much she >> wants to >> >> earn >> >> this year and tying that extra amount to her bringing it in to >> pay for it, >> >> will achieve the results we are looking for. >> >> >> >> >> >> Thus I am asking for your votes, and/or >> amendments/discussion/questions on >> >> the >> >> above Motion to Amend. >> >> >> >> (no second is required) >> >> >> >> -- >> >> In Liberty, >> >> >> >> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >> >> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> SCC mailing list >> >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> >> >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> >> >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > SCC mailing list >> > SCC at lplouisiana.org >> >> > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> > >> >> >> -----Inline Attachment Follows----- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chairman at lplouisiana.org Thu Feb 28 15:35:00 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 15:35:00 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Performance Based Pay amendment to Executive Director contract In-Reply-To: <512FCA34.2010106@lplouisiana.org> References: <1362079783.18571.YahooMailClassic@web181604.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <512FC510.6040201@lplouisiana.org> <512FCA34.2010106@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <512FCD84.2020803@lplouisiana.org> Thanks Wes. In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 2/28/13 3:20 PM, Wes Benedict wrote: > I vote aye. > --Wes Benedict > > > Adrien Monteleone wrote, On 2/28/2013 2:58 PM: >> Thanks Frank for your vote!! >> >> Current results are: >> >> Mr. Horne - Aye >> Mr. Kearney - Aye >> Mr. Smith - Aye >> Mr. Griffin - Aye >> Mr. Monteleone - Aye >> >> A quorum has been reached. >> >> The votes so far are 5-0 in favor - an absolute majority of the Board >> having voted in favor - the motion carries. >> >> Still not voting: >> >> Mr. Lewis >> Mr. Ebarb >> Mr. Benedict >> Mr. Thompson >> >> All those who have not yet voted are encouraged to still submit their votes >> for the record. >> >> Thanks to everyone, and I will let Wendy know tonight of her new incentive >> terms and get her signature. >> >> >> >> In Liberty, >> >> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >> On 2/28/13 1:29 PM, Franklin Griffin wrote: >>> AYE MATEY >>> >>> --- On *Thu, 2/28/13, Adrien Monteleone //* wrote: >>> >>> >>> From: Adrien Monteleone >>> Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Performance Based Pay amendment >>> to Executive Director contract >>> To: scc at lplouisiana.org >>> Date: Thursday, February 28, 2013, 12:52 PM >>> >>> Thanks for the votes Lee, Howard & Boyd. >>> >>> The current tally is: >>> >>> Mr. Horne - Aye >>> Mr. Kearney - Aye >>> Mr. Smith - Aye >>> >>> Not voted yet: >>> >>> Mr. Lewis >>> Mr. Ebarb >>> Mr. Benedict >>> Mr. Thompson >>> Mr. Griffin >>> Mr. Monteleone (the chair will wait till last to vote per Robert's >>> protocol) >>> >>> >>> >>> Five votes are needed for a quorum, and a majority of those are needed >>> for >>> passage. >>> >>> Thus we need one more vote, yay or nay, besides my own to proceed. >>> >>> Please get your votes in soon. >>> >>> I'd like to tell her what these new terms are and have her sign them >>> in person >>> at the caucus tonight. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> In Liberty, >>> >>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>> >>> On 2/28/13 9:33 AM, elections at lplouisiana.org >>> >>> wrote: >>> > I vote aye. Wendy does wonderful good work and very hard work. I >>> am sure >>> > that she will be able to meet those goals and exceed them before the >>> date >>> > listed. I wish we had 100 more of her. >>> > >>> > Boyd Smith >>> > >>> >> I'm proposing the following amendment to add a section to Wendy's >>> > contract as follows: >>> >> Performance based pay >>> >> >>> >> $1 (one dollar)per registered voter in excess of 8,000 before 1/1/14. >>> >> Payment >>> >> to be made quarterly after the initial threshold has been >>> surpassed, and >>> >> upon >>> >> calculation of the number of net new voters per the official list >>> >> purchased >>> >> from the Secretary of State's office. >>> >> >>> >> $5 (five dollars) per new annual dues paying member who attended a >>> >> successful >>> >> parish organizing caucus. Payment to be made quarterly after accurate >>> >> filing >>> >> of all required paperwork evidencing the caucus, as members sign up and >>> >> payment is received from Piryx, that match the attendance roster. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> This will work to provide incentive towards three goals, increased >>> voter >>> >> registration, increase in organized parishes, and increased funding. >>> >> >>> >> The voter registration funding would require only a small percentage of >>> >> those >>> >> new voters to sign up as dues paying members to break even. (about >>> 2-5%) >>> >> >>> >> The second incentive is really geared towards both organizing new >>> >> parishes, >>> >> and bringing in new members as a result of that effort. It would >>> pay for >>> >> itself, since she only gets a bonus if she gets new members. >>> >> >>> >> Thus each quarter, on or about the second pay check (to allow for >>> >> calculations) we would issue her a bonus payment for the amount earned >>> >> according to these two criteria. >>> >> >>> >> These criteria I think are fair for the effort required, and >>> provide her >>> >> the >>> >> means to earn more if she works harder with no upper limit. (and it >>> would >>> >> all >>> >> be "paid for" since it is tied to new memberships) >>> >> >>> >> In other states where petition drives are held to secure signatures for >>> >> ballot >>> >> access, $1-$2 is the typical incentive pay for valid signatures. >>> However, >>> >> petition signatures generally do not rely on people changing party >>> >> affiliation. Since this is a much harder goal, but we do not yet >>> know how >>> >> much work is involved, I think $1 per new LP voter is a reasonable >>> start. >>> >> >>> >> The above proposal would offer no upper limit, but as an example, she >>> >> would >>> >> qualify for $6,000 for reaching our registration goal of 14,000. This >>> >> would >>> >> require in a worst case scenario, 300 new members, or 5% of those 6000 >>> >> voters >>> >> to sign up. Considering we are now contacting new voters within a >>> short >>> >> time >>> >> span of their registration to get them active, this should be >>> achievable. >>> >> >>> >> Also, the proposal above would allow her to qualify for >>> significantly more >>> >> also with no upper limit and do so only by bringing new money into the >>> >> treasury to pay for it. If she were to form 25 PECs with only the >>> minimum >>> >> number of members/officers and got each to sign up as an LPL >>> member, she >>> >> would >>> >> qualify for an additional $750. Of course, that would be a >>> minimum, she >>> >> could >>> >> earn much more if she brings in more. >>> >> >>> >> While I think 10,000 voters is a more likely result, 25 parishes is not >>> >> out of >>> >> reach. She's already a few months away from 10 and is almost ready to >>> >> begin >>> >> the next batch. >>> >> >>> >> I think giving her the room to effectively decide how much she wants to >>> >> earn >>> >> this year and tying that extra amount to her bringing it in to pay >>> for it, >>> >> will achieve the results we are looking for. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Thus I am asking for your votes, and/or >>> amendments/discussion/questions on >>> >> the >>> >> above Motion to Amend. >>> >> >>> >> (no second is required) >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> In Liberty, >>> >> >>> >> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>> >> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> SCC mailing list >>> >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>> >>> >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>> >> >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > SCC mailing list >>> > SCC at lplouisiana.org >>> >>> > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>> > >>> >>> >>> -----Inline Attachment Follows----- >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SCC mailing list >>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>> >>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SCC mailing list >>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Item #2 (the $5/dues paying member) sounds good and I don't see any potential issues with it. Wendy is certainly a great asset to us and she's already working for very little. I'm inclined to vote Aye, but I wanted to be sure about item 1 first. - Keith On 2013-02-28 15:35, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > Thanks Wes. > > In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > On 2/28/13 3:20 PM, Wes Benedict wrote: > >> I vote aye. >> --Wes Benedict >> >> Adrien Monteleone wrote, On 2/28/2013 2:58 PM: >> >>> Thanks Frank for your vote!! >>> >>> Current results are: >>> >>> Mr. Horne - Aye >>> Mr. Kearney - Aye >>> Mr. Smith - Aye >>> Mr. Griffin - Aye >>> Mr. Monteleone - Aye >>> >>> A quorum has been reached. >>> >>> The votes so far are 5-0 in favor - an absolute majority of the Board having voted in favor - the motion carries. >>> >>> Still not voting: >>> >>> Mr. Lewis >>> Mr. Ebarb >>> Mr. Benedict >>> Mr. Thompson >>> >>> All those who have not yet voted are encouraged to still submit their votes for the record. >>> >>> Thanks to everyone, and I will let Wendy know tonight of her new incentive terms and get her signature. >>> >>> In Liberty, >>> >>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>> >>> On 2/28/13 1:29 PM, Franklin Griffin wrote: >>> >>>> AYE MATEY >>>> >>>> --- On THU, 2/28/13, ADRIEN MONTELEONE __ wrote: >>>> >>>>> From: Adrien Monteleone >>>>> Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Performance Based Pay amendment to Executive Director contract >>>>> To: scc at lplouisiana.org >>>>> Date: Thursday, February 28, 2013, 12:52 PM >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for the votes Lee, Howard & Boyd. >>>>> >>>>> The current tally is: >>>>> >>>>> Mr. Horne - Aye >>>>> Mr. Kearney - Aye >>>>> Mr. Smith - Aye >>>>> >>>>> Not voted yet: >>>>> >>>>> Mr. Lewis >>>>> Mr. Ebarb >>>>> Mr. Benedict >>>>> Mr. Thompson >>>>> Mr. Griffin >>>>> Mr. Monteleone (the chair will wait till last to vote per Robert's protocol) >>>>> >>>>> Five votes are needed for a quorum, and a majority of those are needed for >>>>> passage. >>>>> >>>>> Thus we need one more vote, yay or nay, besides my own to proceed. >>>>> >>>>> Please get your votes in soon. >>>>> >>>>> I'd like to tell her what these new terms are and have her sign them in person >>>>> at the caucus tonight. >>>>> >>>>> In Liberty, >>>>> >>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>> >>>>> On 2/28/13 9:33 AM, elections at lplouisiana.org [1] wrote: >>>>> > I vote aye. Wendy does wonderful good work and very hard work. I am sure >>>>> > that she will be able to meet those goals and exceed them before the date >>>>> > listed. I wish we had 100 more of her. >>>>> > >>>>> > Boyd Smith >>>>> > >>>>> >> I'm proposing the following amendment to add a section to Wendy's >>>>> > contract as follows: >>>>> >> Performance based pay >>>>> >> >>>>> >> $1 (one dollar)per registered voter in excess of 8,000 before 1/1/14. >>>>> >> Payment >>>>> >> to be made quarterly after the initial threshold has been surpassed, and >>>>> >> upon >>>>> >> calculation of the number of net new voters per the official list >>>>> >> purchased >>>>> >> from the Secretary of State's office. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> $5 (five dollars) per new annual dues paying member who attended a >>>>> >> successful >>>>> >> parish organizing caucus. Payment to be made quarterly after accurate >>>>> >> filing >>>>> >> of all required paperwork evidencing the caucus, as members sign up and >>>>> >> payment is received from Piryx, that match the attendance roster. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> This will work to provide incentive towards three goals, increased voter >>>>> >> registration, increase in organized parishes, and increased funding. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> The voter registration funding would require only a small percentage of >>>>> >> those >>>>> >> new voters to sign up as dues paying members to break even. (about 2-5%) >>>>> >> >>>>> >> The second incentive is really geared towards both organizing new >>>>> >> parishes, >>>>> >> and bringing in new members as a result of that effort. It would pay for >>>>> >> itself, since she only gets a bonus if she gets new members. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Thus each quarter, on or about the second pay check (to allow for >>>>> >> calculations) we would issue her a bonus payment for the amount earned >>>>> >> according to these two criteria. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> These criteria I think are fair for the effort required, and provide her >>>>> >> the >>>>> >> means to earn more if she works harder with no upper limit. (and it would >>>>> >> all >>>>> >> be "paid for" since it is tied to new memberships) >>>>> >> >>>>> >> In other states where petition drives are held to secure signatures for >>>>> >> ballot >>>>> >> access, $1-$2 is the typical incentive pay for valid signatures. However, >>>>> >> petition signatures generally do not rely on people changing party >>>>> >> affiliation. Since this is a much harder goal, but we do not yet know how >>>>> >> much work is involved, I think $1 per new LP voter is a reasonable start. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> The above proposal would offer no upper limit, but as an example, she >>>>> >> would >>>>> >> qualify for $6,000 for reaching our registration goal of 14,000. This >>>>> >> would >>>>> >> require in a worst case scenario, 300 new members, or 5% of those 6000 >>>>> >> voters >>>>> >> to sign up. Considering we are now contacting new voters within a short >>>>> >> time >>>>> >> span of their registration to get them active, this should be achievable. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Also, the proposal above would allow her to qualify for significantly more >>>>> >> also with no upper limit and do so only by bringing new money into the >>>>> >> treasury to pay for it. If she were to form 25 PECs with only the minimum >>>>> >> number of members/officers and got each to sign up as an LPL member, she >>>>> >> would >>>>> >> qualify for an additional $750. Of course, that would be a minimum, she >>>>> >> could >>>>> >> earn much more if she brings in more. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> While I think 10,000 voters is a more likely result, 25 parishes is not >>>>> >> out of >>>>> >> reach. She's already a few months away from 10 and is almost ready to >>>>> >> begin >>>>> >> the next batch. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I think giving her the room to effectively decide how much she wants to >>>>> >> earn >>>>> >> this year and tying that extra amount to her bringing it in to pay for it, >>>>> >> will achieve the results we are looking for. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Thus I am asking for your votes, and/or amendments/discussion/questions on >>>>> >> the >>>>> >> above Motion to Amend. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> (no second is required) >>>>> >> >>>>> >> -- >>>>> >> In Liberty, >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>> >> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>> >> >>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >> SCC mailing list >>>>> >> SCC at lplouisiana.org [2] >>>>> >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [3] >>>>> >> >>>>> > >>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>> > SCC mailing list >>>>> > SCC at lplouisiana.org [2] >>>>> > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [3] >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> -----Inline Attachment Follows----- >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org [2] >>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [3] >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SCC mailing list >>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [3] >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SCC mailing list >>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [3] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [3] > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [3] -- KEITH THOMPSON _Communications Officer_ Libertarian Party of Louisiana media at lplouisiana.org LPLouisiana.org [4] Links: ------ [1] http://us.mc1816.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=elections at lplouisiana.org [2] http://us.mc1816.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=SCC at lplouisiana.org [3] http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [4] http://www.lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chairman at lplouisiana.org Thu Feb 28 17:01:49 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 17:01:49 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Performance Based Pay amendment to Executive Director contract In-Reply-To: <0a9e266aebf6366672c4ea8b9145bfea@lplouisiana.org> References: <1362079783.18571.YahooMailClassic@web181604.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <512FC510.6040201@lplouisiana.org> <512FCA34.2010106@lplouisiana.org> <512FCD84.2020803@lplouisiana.org> <0a9e266aebf6366672c4ea8b9145bfea@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <512FE1DD.1050605@lplouisiana.org> The entire contract is contingent on available funds. We'll technically never be "in the hole." In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 2/28/13 3:55 PM, Keith Thompson wrote: > > Item #1 ($1/member over 8k) My only concern here is that there's not > necessarily income generated from this and we're running an ambitious budget > as is. Would this still fall under the "provided we have funds" clause of > Wendy's contract? I would assume so, but I wanted to ask for clarity. > > Item #2 (the $5/dues paying member) sounds good and I don't see any > potential issues with it. Wendy is certainly a great asset to us and she's > already working for very little. > > I'm inclined to vote Aye, but I wanted to be sure about item 1 first. > > - Keith > > On 2013-02-28 15:35, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > >> Thanks Wes. >> In Liberty, >> >> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >> On 2/28/13 3:20 PM, Wes Benedict wrote: >>> I vote aye. >>> --Wes Benedict >>> >>> >>> Adrien Monteleone wrote, On 2/28/2013 2:58 PM: >>>> Thanks Frank for your vote!! >>>> >>>> Current results are: >>>> >>>> Mr. Horne - Aye >>>> Mr. Kearney - Aye >>>> Mr. Smith - Aye >>>> Mr. Griffin - Aye >>>> Mr. Monteleone - Aye >>>> >>>> A quorum has been reached. >>>> >>>> The votes so far are 5-0 in favor - an absolute majority of the Board >>>> having voted in favor - the motion carries. >>>> >>>> Still not voting: >>>> >>>> Mr. Lewis >>>> Mr. Ebarb >>>> Mr. Benedict >>>> Mr. Thompson >>>> >>>> All those who have not yet voted are encouraged to still submit their >>>> votes for the record. >>>> >>>> Thanks to everyone, and I will let Wendy know tonight of her new >>>> incentive terms and get her signature. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> In Liberty, >>>> >>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>> On 2/28/13 1:29 PM, Franklin Griffin wrote: >>>>> AYE MATEY >>>>> >>>>> --- On *Thu, 2/28/13, Adrien Monteleone //* wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: Adrien Monteleone >>>>> Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Performance Based Pay >>>>> amendment to Executive Director contract >>>>> To: scc at lplouisiana.org >>>>> Date: Thursday, February 28, 2013, 12:52 PM >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for the votes Lee, Howard & Boyd. >>>>> >>>>> The current tally is: >>>>> >>>>> Mr. Horne - Aye >>>>> Mr. Kearney - Aye >>>>> Mr. Smith - Aye >>>>> >>>>> Not voted yet: >>>>> >>>>> Mr. Lewis >>>>> Mr. Ebarb >>>>> Mr. Benedict >>>>> Mr. Thompson >>>>> Mr. Griffin >>>>> Mr. Monteleone (the chair will wait till last to vote per Robert's >>>>> protocol) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Five votes are needed for a quorum, and a majority of those are >>>>> needed for >>>>> passage. >>>>> >>>>> Thus we need one more vote, yay or nay, besides my own to proceed. >>>>> >>>>> Please get your votes in soon. >>>>> >>>>> I'd like to tell her what these new terms are and have her sign them >>>>> in person >>>>> at the caucus tonight. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> In Liberty, >>>>> >>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>> >>>>> On 2/28/13 9:33 AM, elections at lplouisiana.org >>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> > I vote aye. Wendy does wonderful good work and very hard work. I >>>>> am sure >>>>> > that she will be able to meet those goals and exceed them before >>>>> the date >>>>> > listed. I wish we had 100 more of her. >>>>> > >>>>> > Boyd Smith >>>>> > >>>>> >> I'm proposing the following amendment to add a section to Wendy's >>>>> > contract as follows: >>>>> >> Performance based pay >>>>> >> >>>>> >> $1 (one dollar)per registered voter in excess of 8,000 before 1/1/14. >>>>> >> Payment >>>>> >> to be made quarterly after the initial threshold has been >>>>> surpassed, and >>>>> >> upon >>>>> >> calculation of the number of net new voters per the official list >>>>> >> purchased >>>>> >> from the Secretary of State's office. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> $5 (five dollars) per new annual dues paying member who attended a >>>>> >> successful >>>>> >> parish organizing caucus. Payment to be made quarterly after >>>>> accurate >>>>> >> filing >>>>> >> of all required paperwork evidencing the caucus, as members sign >>>>> up and >>>>> >> payment is received from Piryx, that match the attendance roster. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> This will work to provide incentive towards three goals, >>>>> increased voter >>>>> >> registration, increase in organized parishes, and increased funding. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> The voter registration funding would require only a small >>>>> percentage of >>>>> >> those >>>>> >> new voters to sign up as dues paying members to break even. >>>>> (about 2-5%) >>>>> >> >>>>> >> The second incentive is really geared towards both organizing new >>>>> >> parishes, >>>>> >> and bringing in new members as a result of that effort. It would >>>>> pay for >>>>> >> itself, since she only gets a bonus if she gets new members. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Thus each quarter, on or about the second pay check (to allow for >>>>> >> calculations) we would issue her a bonus payment for the amount >>>>> earned >>>>> >> according to these two criteria. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> These criteria I think are fair for the effort required, and >>>>> provide her >>>>> >> the >>>>> >> means to earn more if she works harder with no upper limit. (and >>>>> it would >>>>> >> all >>>>> >> be "paid for" since it is tied to new memberships) >>>>> >> >>>>> >> In other states where petition drives are held to secure >>>>> signatures for >>>>> >> ballot >>>>> >> access, $1-$2 is the typical incentive pay for valid signatures. >>>>> However, >>>>> >> petition signatures generally do not rely on people changing party >>>>> >> affiliation. Since this is a much harder goal, but we do not yet >>>>> know how >>>>> >> much work is involved, I think $1 per new LP voter is a >>>>> reasonable start. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> The above proposal would offer no upper limit, but as an example, she >>>>> >> would >>>>> >> qualify for $6,000 for reaching our registration goal of 14,000. This >>>>> >> would >>>>> >> require in a worst case scenario, 300 new members, or 5% of those >>>>> 6000 >>>>> >> voters >>>>> >> to sign up. Considering we are now contacting new voters within >>>>> a short >>>>> >> time >>>>> >> span of their registration to get them active, this should be >>>>> achievable. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Also, the proposal above would allow her to qualify for >>>>> significantly more >>>>> >> also with no upper limit and do so only by bringing new money >>>>> into the >>>>> >> treasury to pay for it. If she were to form 25 PECs with only >>>>> the minimum >>>>> >> number of members/officers and got each to sign up as an LPL >>>>> member, she >>>>> >> would >>>>> >> qualify for an additional $750. Of course, that would be a >>>>> minimum, she >>>>> >> could >>>>> >> earn much more if she brings in more. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> While I think 10,000 voters is a more likely result, 25 parishes >>>>> is not >>>>> >> out of >>>>> >> reach. She's already a few months away from 10 and is almost >>>>> ready to >>>>> >> begin >>>>> >> the next batch. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I think giving her the room to effectively decide how much she >>>>> wants to >>>>> >> earn >>>>> >> this year and tying that extra amount to her bringing it in to >>>>> pay for it, >>>>> >> will achieve the results we are looking for. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Thus I am asking for your votes, and/or >>>>> amendments/discussion/questions on >>>>> >> the >>>>> >> above Motion to Amend. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> (no second is required) >>>>> >> >>>>> >> -- >>>>> >> In Liberty, >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>> >> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>> >> >>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >> SCC mailing list >>>>> >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>> >>>>> >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>>>> >> >>>>> > >>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>> > SCC mailing list >>>>> > SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>> >>>>> > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Inline Attachment Follows----- >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>> >>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SCC mailing list >>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SCC mailing list >>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > -- > LPL Logo *Keith Thompson* > /Communications Officer/ > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > media at lplouisiana.org > LPLouisiana.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: chairman.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 283 bytes Desc: not available URL: From media at lplouisiana.org Thu Feb 28 17:04:06 2013 From: media at lplouisiana.org (Keith Thompson) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 17:04:06 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Performance Based Pay amendment to Executive Director contract In-Reply-To: <512FE1DD.1050605@lplouisiana.org> References: <1362079783.18571.YahooMailClassic@web181604.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <512FC510.6040201@lplouisiana.org> <512FCA34.2010106@lplouisiana.org> <512FCD84.2020803@lplouisiana.org> <0a9e266aebf6366672c4ea8b9145bfea@lplouisiana.org> <512FE1DD.1050605@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: That's what I thought, but just wanted to make sure with the amendment. I vote aye. On 2013-02-28 17:01, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > The entire contract is contingent on available funds. We'll technically never be "in the hole." > > In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > On 2/28/13 3:55 PM, Keith Thompson wrote: > >> Item #1 ($1/member over 8k) My only concern here is that there's not necessarily income generated from this and we're running an ambitious budget as is. Would this still fall under the "provided we have funds" clause of Wendy's contract? I would assume so, but I wanted to ask for clarity. >> >> Item #2 (the $5/dues paying member) sounds good and I don't see any potential issues with it. Wendy is certainly a great asset to us and she's already working for very little. >> >> I'm inclined to vote Aye, but I wanted to be sure about item 1 first. >> >> - Keith >> >> On 2013-02-28 15:35, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >> >>> Thanks Wes. >>> >>> In Liberty, >>> >>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>> >>> On 2/28/13 3:20 PM, Wes Benedict wrote: >>> >>>> I vote aye. >>>> --Wes Benedict >>>> >>>> Adrien Monteleone wrote, On 2/28/2013 2:58 PM: >>>> >>>>> Thanks Frank for your vote!! >>>>> >>>>> Current results are: >>>>> >>>>> Mr. Horne - Aye >>>>> Mr. Kearney - Aye >>>>> Mr. Smith - Aye >>>>> Mr. Griffin - Aye >>>>> Mr. Monteleone - Aye >>>>> >>>>> A quorum has been reached. >>>>> >>>>> The votes so far are 5-0 in favor - an absolute majority of the Board having voted in favor - the motion carries. >>>>> >>>>> Still not voting: >>>>> >>>>> Mr. Lewis >>>>> Mr. Ebarb >>>>> Mr. Benedict >>>>> Mr. Thompson >>>>> >>>>> All those who have not yet voted are encouraged to still submit their votes for the record. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks to everyone, and I will let Wendy know tonight of her new incentive terms and get her signature. >>>>> >>>>> In Liberty, >>>>> >>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>> >>>>> On 2/28/13 1:29 PM, Franklin Griffin wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> AYE MATEY >>>>>> >>>>>> --- On THU, 2/28/13, ADRIEN MONTELEONE __ wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Adrien Monteleone >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Performance Based Pay amendment to Executive Director contract >>>>>>> To: scc at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>> Date: Thursday, February 28, 2013, 12:52 PM >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for the votes Lee, Howard & Boyd. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The current tally is: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mr. Horne - Aye >>>>>>> Mr. Kearney - Aye >>>>>>> Mr. Smith - Aye >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Not voted yet: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mr. Lewis >>>>>>> Mr. Ebarb >>>>>>> Mr. Benedict >>>>>>> Mr. Thompson >>>>>>> Mr. Griffin >>>>>>> Mr. Monteleone (the chair will wait till last to vote per Robert's protocol) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Five votes are needed for a quorum, and a majority of those are needed for >>>>>>> passage. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thus we need one more vote, yay or nay, besides my own to proceed. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please get your votes in soon. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'd like to tell her what these new terms are and have her sign them in person >>>>>>> at the caucus tonight. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In Liberty, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2/28/13 9:33 AM, elections at lplouisiana.org [1] wrote: >>>>>>> > I vote aye. Wendy does wonderful good work and very hard work. I am sure >>>>>>> > that she will be able to meet those goals and exceed them before the date >>>>>>> > listed. I wish we had 100 more of her. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Boyd Smith >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >> I'm proposing the following amendment to add a section to Wendy's >>>>>>> > contract as follows: >>>>>>> >> Performance based pay >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> $1 (one dollar)per registered voter in excess of 8,000 before 1/1/14. >>>>>>> >> Payment >>>>>>> >> to be made quarterly after the initial threshold has been surpassed, and >>>>>>> >> upon >>>>>>> >> calculation of the number of net new voters per the official list >>>>>>> >> purchased >>>>>>> >> from the Secretary of State's office. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> $5 (five dollars) per new annual dues paying member who attended a >>>>>>> >> successful >>>>>>> >> parish organizing caucus. Payment to be made quarterly after accurate >>>>>>> >> filing >>>>>>> >> of all required paperwork evidencing the caucus, as members sign up and >>>>>>> >> payment is received from Piryx, that match the attendance roster. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> This will work to provide incentive towards three goals, increased voter >>>>>>> >> registration, increase in organized parishes, and increased funding. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> The voter registration funding would require only a small percentage of >>>>>>> >> those >>>>>>> >> new voters to sign up as dues paying members to break even. (about 2-5%) >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> The second incentive is really geared towards both organizing new >>>>>>> >> parishes, >>>>>>> >> and bringing in new members as a result of that effort. It would pay for >>>>>>> >> itself, since she only gets a bonus if she gets new members. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Thus each quarter, on or about the second pay check (to allow for >>>>>>> >> calculations) we would issue her a bonus payment for the amount earned >>>>>>> >> according to these two criteria. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> These criteria I think are fair for the effort required, and provide her >>>>>>> >> the >>>>>>> >> means to earn more if she works harder with no upper limit. (and it would >>>>>>> >> all >>>>>>> >> be "paid for" since it is tied to new memberships) >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> In other states where petition drives are held to secure signatures for >>>>>>> >> ballot >>>>>>> >> access, $1-$2 is the typical incentive pay for valid signatures. However, >>>>>>> >> petition signatures generally do not rely on people changing party >>>>>>> >> affiliation. Since this is a much harder goal, but we do not yet know how >>>>>>> >> much work is involved, I think $1 per new LP voter is a reasonable start. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> The above proposal would offer no upper limit, but as an example, she >>>>>>> >> would >>>>>>> >> qualify for $6,000 for reaching our registration goal of 14,000. This >>>>>>> >> would >>>>>>> >> require in a worst case scenario, 300 new members, or 5% of those 6000 >>>>>>> >> voters >>>>>>> >> to sign up. Considering we are now contacting new voters within a short >>>>>>> >> time >>>>>>> >> span of their registration to get them active, this should be achievable. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Also, the proposal above would allow her to qualify for significantly more >>>>>>> >> also with no upper limit and do so only by bringing new money into the >>>>>>> >> treasury to pay for it. If she were to form 25 PECs with only the minimum >>>>>>> >> number of members/officers and got each to sign up as an LPL member, she >>>>>>> >> would >>>>>>> >> qualify for an additional $750. Of course, that would be a minimum, she >>>>>>> >> could >>>>>>> >> earn much more if she brings in more. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> While I think 10,000 voters is a more likely result, 25 parishes is not >>>>>>> >> out of >>>>>>> >> reach. She's already a few months away from 10 and is almost ready to >>>>>>> >> begin >>>>>>> >> the next batch. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> I think giving her the room to effectively decide how much she wants to >>>>>>> >> earn >>>>>>> >> this year and tying that extra amount to her bringing it in to pay for it, >>>>>>> >> will achieve the results we are looking for. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Thus I am asking for your votes, and/or amendments/discussion/questions on >>>>>>> >> the >>>>>>> >> above Motion to Amend. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> (no second is required) >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> -- >>>>>>> >> In Liberty, >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>>>> >> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> >> SCC mailing list >>>>>>> >> SCC at lplouisiana.org [2] >>>>>>> >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [3] >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> > SCC mailing list >>>>>>> > SCC at lplouisiana.org [2] >>>>>>> > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [3] >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Inline Attachment Follows----- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org [2] >>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [3] >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [3] >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [3] >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SCC mailing list >>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [3] >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SCC mailing list >>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [3] >> >> -- Links: ------ [1] http://us.mc1816.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=elections at lplouisiana.org [2] http://us.mc1816.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=SCC at lplouisiana.org [3] http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(note, the full SCC calendar has been posted) Presently, you'll see one for the Board of Directors, caucuses, and conventions. Soon to be added are calendars for Supporting Committees, PECs, Elections and Special Events. You'll notice links in the Events menu for these as well. They take you to the same pages. It's just a direct link to each calendar. More updates coming later tonight... -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I've also added an "In the News" page which will be a place for links to news articles that feature the LPL - submissions welcome. And there will be a Press Release Archive added shortly. Media archives are coming next to house photos of events, video, and artwork. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: chairman.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 283 bytes Desc: not available URL: From media at lplouisiana.org Mon Mar 4 21:13:23 2013 From: media at lplouisiana.org (Keith Thompson) Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 21:13:23 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Website Updates In-Reply-To: <5133D36F.6080607@lplouisiana.org> References: <5133D36F.6080607@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <0f541d3c5c71f1eb2e81942ef8263dfc@lplouisiana.org> Thanks for making the updates. I had a meeting with a drupal developer last week (we've been trying to have it for weeks, but his schedule was hectic), so I'm hoping to use my newfound knowledge to push forward on the site. I was looking at the email addresses for the parish coordinators and they all seem to be personal addresses (yahoo, etc.). Would it be possible to make a lplouisiana address for the different parishes? That way their correspondence seems more legitimate and we would be able to retain their emails/contacts when we switch coordinators. On 2013-03-03 16:49, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > To all, > > Several updates have been completed on the LPL website. > > I've revamped the Events pages somewhat. > > Clicking the Events link, now takes you to a "Current Events" page which will > primarily be events for the coming month, but possibly some future events > two-three months in advance. > > At the bottom of this page is a link to an archive of previously posted > events. These will be updated and rotated once per month at the least. > > You will now see under the Events menu for Calendar. > > This will take you to a page listing the various types of calendars we keep. > (note, the full SCC calendar has been posted) > > Presently, you'll see one for the Board of Directors, caucuses, and conventions. > > Soon to be added are calendars for Supporting Committees, PECs, Elections and > Special Events. > > You'll notice links in the Events menu for these as well. They take you to > the same pages. It's just a direct link to each calendar. > > More updates coming later tonight... > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] -- KEITH THOMPSON _Communications Officer_ Libertarian Party of Louisiana media at lplouisiana.org LPLouisiana.org [2] Links: ------ [1] http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [2] http://www.lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chairman at lplouisiana.org Mon Mar 4 21:57:45 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 21:57:45 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Website Updates In-Reply-To: <0f541d3c5c71f1eb2e81942ef8263dfc@lplouisiana.org> References: <5133D36F.6080607@lplouisiana.org> <0f541d3c5c71f1eb2e81942ef8263dfc@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <51356D39.70606@lplouisiana.org> Already done, partly. I'll do some more tonight in prep for all the parishes about to organize. I've already created subdomains for each parish and pointed them to a folder inside /about/parishes/ I'm not sure exactly how we'll set it up, but I want each parish to be able to go straight there by using for example: orleans.lplouisiana.org They get sent to the "home page" for the "Libertarian Party of Orleans Parish" which will have sub pages, but it may just be a small portion of our larger site. I don't think we'll need separate Drupal installs for each parish as that might be quite a mess and we don't want to make people have separate logins for the state and parish sections. Ideally, we should keep it under one install for CiviCRM purposes because we need everything kept together there as well. Everything should be all in the main site and those subdomains just go to a handful of specific parish pages. Now, all of that out of the way, I've started to create a standardized system like so: office at subdomain.lplouisiana.org To start, we'll have seven emails for each parish as follows: sccrep chair secretary treasurer liaison campus membership Then according to the size of each PEC, for those not in an office, we'll have: districtN-Z atlargeN-Z According to if they elect by district or at large. We don't necessarily start N at "1" because the officers are actually either at-large or district members. A little messy, but not so bad because these won't be assigned until we know what was elected at the caucus and the PEC's first meeting. As well, each parish will have two mailing lists for communications. One for the PEC: pec at subdomain.lplouisiana.org One for member announcements: news at subdomain.lplouisiana.org But that's all after a PEC is formed. Of course, right now, I can also create: organizer at subdomain.lplouisiana.org for each parish and get them the info to use it. Take a look at the three web interfaces and tell me which one you think you like the best. Squirrel is fastest, but I think people will like using RoundCube more. Horde has the most features, but is quite 1995ish. The reason I ask is because I think we should simply set one system for auto-load so as not to confuse or confound anyone. I have noticed this is a problem for some of us that are less tech savvy already. Using one system will also cut down on any "help desk" questions we'll have to field as people learn to use the system. Ideally of course, I wish more people would use stand alone clients instead of webmail, but I know that's asking too much. The one thing I want to strongly discourage is forwarding. The two main reasons are doing so means there's no permanent record of the full conversation on our server, and second, replies don't look like they are coming from the same person the mail was sent to, and it won't look like its coming from the LPL. I'll go ahead and set up these organizer addresses right now and report back when they are done. I made up a "new user guide" for the email system with screen shots. I will remove the other two interfaces we don't choose and have that as a template to send to people as we bring them online. Don't sweat Drupal yet but feel free to keep learning about it I think I want to continue my original plan: Build out the current site to the current outline and plan Create the new content types in Drupal that will be needed to better handle the more complex views and pages. Port everything over to Drupal Try to copy the CSS styling over in a customized template so the two sites look similar. (I can't find a single Drupal template I like) Somewhere in between all that, I'll install CiviCRM so Howard can get crackin' on writing the import scripts for our various data sources. (LNC Dump, SoS voter list, Piryx donation records, etc.) It doesn't have to look pretty and the site doesn't have to be finished for him to start that work or for us to even use CiviCRM and get our feet wet on it. In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 3/4/13 9:13 PM, Keith Thompson wrote: > > Thanks for making the updates. > > I had a meeting with a drupal developer last week (we've been trying to have > it for weeks, but his schedule was hectic), so I'm hoping to use my newfound > knowledge to push forward on the site. > > I was looking at the email addresses for the parish coordinators and they > all seem to be personal addresses (yahoo, etc.). Would it be possible to > make a lplouisiana address for the different parishes? That way their > correspondence seems more legitimate and we would be able to retain their > emails/contacts when we switch coordinators. > > On 2013-03-03 16:49, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > >> To all, >> >> Several updates have been completed on the LPL website. >> >> I've revamped the Events pages somewhat. >> >> Clicking the Events link, now takes you to a "Current Events" page which will >> primarily be events for the coming month, but possibly some future events >> two-three months in advance. >> >> At the bottom of this page is a link to an archive of previously posted >> events. These will be updated and rotated once per month at the least. >> >> You will now see under the Events menu for Calendar. >> >> This will take you to a page listing the various types of calendars we keep. >> (note, the full SCC calendar has been posted) >> >> Presently, you'll see one for the Board of Directors, caucuses, and conventions. >> >> Soon to be added are calendars for Supporting Committees, PECs, Elections and >> Special Events. >> >> You'll notice links in the Events menu for these as well. They take you to >> the same pages. It's just a direct link to each calendar. >> >> More updates coming later tonight... >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > -- > LPL Logo *Keith Thompson* > /Communications Officer/ > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > media at lplouisiana.org > LPLouisiana.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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PEC's are allowed to create custom offices not listed, which I think they might do. To make things easier, I gave every mailbox the same password. (I have to type it, it isn't auto-generated unfortunately) They can change the password when they first access the mailbox. It's: *Liberty1776* case sensitive. Feel free to set Susan up with her mailbox now if you wish. She has: *organizer at rapides.lplouisiana.org *Also, please have her send over a photo for me to put on the Rapides contact page, and any other contact info she wishes people to see in addition to her email.* * In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 3/4/13 9:13 PM, Keith Thompson wrote: > > Thanks for making the updates. > > I had a meeting with a drupal developer last week (we've been trying to have > it for weeks, but his schedule was hectic), so I'm hoping to use my newfound > knowledge to push forward on the site. > > I was looking at the email addresses for the parish coordinators and they > all seem to be personal addresses (yahoo, etc.). Would it be possible to > make a lplouisiana address for the different parishes? That way their > correspondence seems more legitimate and we would be able to retain their > emails/contacts when we switch coordinators. > > On 2013-03-03 16:49, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > >> To all, >> >> Several updates have been completed on the LPL website. >> >> I've revamped the Events pages somewhat. >> >> Clicking the Events link, now takes you to a "Current Events" page which will >> primarily be events for the coming month, but possibly some future events >> two-three months in advance. >> >> At the bottom of this page is a link to an archive of previously posted >> events. These will be updated and rotated once per month at the least. >> >> You will now see under the Events menu for Calendar. >> >> This will take you to a page listing the various types of calendars we keep. >> (note, the full SCC calendar has been posted) >> >> Presently, you'll see one for the Board of Directors, caucuses, and conventions. >> >> Soon to be added are calendars for Supporting Committees, PECs, Elections and >> Special Events. >> >> You'll notice links in the Events menu for these as well. They take you to >> the same pages. It's just a direct link to each calendar. >> >> More updates coming later tonight... >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > -- > LPL Logo *Keith Thompson* > /Communications Officer/ > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > media at lplouisiana.org > LPLouisiana.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: chairman.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 283 bytes Desc: not available URL: From chairman at lplouisiana.org Mon Mar 4 23:14:36 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 23:14:36 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Website Updates In-Reply-To: <0f541d3c5c71f1eb2e81942ef8263dfc@lplouisiana.org> References: <5133D36F.6080607@lplouisiana.org> <0f541d3c5c71f1eb2e81942ef8263dfc@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <51357F3C.4050704@lplouisiana.org> Slight correction, The email list for general member news for each parish will NOT be using a subdomain. That's because the members are to be part of a "umbrella list" for the entire state, and we may create district lists in the future. Thus the news lists will be parish at lplouisiana.org Umbrella lists can't cross domains, even sub-domains. The PEC lists though WILL use the subdomains because the mailboxes do. This should be transparent to anyone except the admins of course. In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 3/4/13 9:13 PM, Keith Thompson wrote: > > Thanks for making the updates. > > I had a meeting with a drupal developer last week (we've been trying to have > it for weeks, but his schedule was hectic), so I'm hoping to use my newfound > knowledge to push forward on the site. > > I was looking at the email addresses for the parish coordinators and they > all seem to be personal addresses (yahoo, etc.). Would it be possible to > make a lplouisiana address for the different parishes? That way their > correspondence seems more legitimate and we would be able to retain their > emails/contacts when we switch coordinators. > > On 2013-03-03 16:49, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > >> To all, >> >> Several updates have been completed on the LPL website. >> >> I've revamped the Events pages somewhat. >> >> Clicking the Events link, now takes you to a "Current Events" page which will >> primarily be events for the coming month, but possibly some future events >> two-three months in advance. >> >> At the bottom of this page is a link to an archive of previously posted >> events. These will be updated and rotated once per month at the least. >> >> You will now see under the Events menu for Calendar. >> >> This will take you to a page listing the various types of calendars we keep. >> (note, the full SCC calendar has been posted) >> >> Presently, you'll see one for the Board of Directors, caucuses, and conventions. >> >> Soon to be added are calendars for Supporting Committees, PECs, Elections and >> Special Events. >> >> You'll notice links in the Events menu for these as well. They take you to >> the same pages. It's just a direct link to each calendar. >> >> More updates coming later tonight... >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > -- > LPL Logo *Keith Thompson* > /Communications Officer/ > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > media at lplouisiana.org > LPLouisiana.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: chairman.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 283 bytes Desc: not available URL: From chairman at lplouisiana.org Tue Mar 5 00:59:16 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 00:59:16 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Website Updates In-Reply-To: <0f541d3c5c71f1eb2e81942ef8263dfc@lplouisiana.org> References: <5133D36F.6080607@lplouisiana.org> <0f541d3c5c71f1eb2e81942ef8263dfc@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <513597C4.8080502@lplouisiana.org> Another correction: It seems we are presently limited to 50 mailing lists, yet we have 64 parishes. Not sure why or how to increase this yet. So individual discussion lists for each parish is out, unless perhaps using the subdomains gets us the numbers we need, but then we'll have an issue with umbrella lists, but I'm sure we can figure it out. FYI, all 8 offices for each parish now have mailboxes. Phew!! That was a lot of repetitive typing. As noted, district and atlarge boxes will be created as needed. In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 3/4/13 9:13 PM, Keith Thompson wrote: > > Thanks for making the updates. > > I had a meeting with a drupal developer last week (we've been trying to have > it for weeks, but his schedule was hectic), so I'm hoping to use my newfound > knowledge to push forward on the site. > > I was looking at the email addresses for the parish coordinators and they > all seem to be personal addresses (yahoo, etc.). Would it be possible to > make a lplouisiana address for the different parishes? That way their > correspondence seems more legitimate and we would be able to retain their > emails/contacts when we switch coordinators. > > On 2013-03-03 16:49, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > >> To all, >> >> Several updates have been completed on the LPL website. >> >> I've revamped the Events pages somewhat. >> >> Clicking the Events link, now takes you to a "Current Events" page which will >> primarily be events for the coming month, but possibly some future events >> two-three months in advance. >> >> At the bottom of this page is a link to an archive of previously posted >> events. These will be updated and rotated once per month at the least. >> >> You will now see under the Events menu for Calendar. >> >> This will take you to a page listing the various types of calendars we keep. >> (note, the full SCC calendar has been posted) >> >> Presently, you'll see one for the Board of Directors, caucuses, and conventions. >> >> Soon to be added are calendars for Supporting Committees, PECs, Elections and >> Special Events. >> >> You'll notice links in the Events menu for these as well. They take you to >> the same pages. It's just a direct link to each calendar. >> >> More updates coming later tonight... >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > -- > LPL Logo *Keith Thompson* > /Communications Officer/ > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > media at lplouisiana.org > LPLouisiana.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: chairman.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 283 bytes Desc: not available URL: From membership at lplouisiana.org Tue Mar 5 05:44:50 2013 From: membership at lplouisiana.org (Membership LPL) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 05:44:50 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Website Updates In-Reply-To: <51356D39.70606@lplouisiana.org> References: <5133D36F.6080607@lplouisiana.org> <0f541d3c5c71f1eb2e81942ef8263dfc@lplouisiana.org> <51356D39.70606@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <002401ce1996$d922fa20$8b68ee60$@org> Just wanted you to know that I've read through this and I really understand the work that this takes and really appreciate your efforts in this! It will certainly give us a professional face and make it much easier to sell the Libertarian message! Thanks so much. Oh, looking forward to working with CiviCRM. --------------------------- Howard Kearney Membership From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of Adrien Monteleone Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 9:58 PM To: scc at lplouisiana.org Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Website Updates Already done, partly. I'll do some more tonight in prep for all the parishes about to organize. I've already created subdomains for each parish and pointed them to a folder inside /about/parishes/ I'm not sure exactly how we'll set it up, but I want each parish to be able to go straight there by using for example: orleans.lplouisiana.org They get sent to the "home page" for the "Libertarian Party of Orleans Parish" which will have sub pages, but it may just be a small portion of our larger site. I don't think we'll need separate Drupal installs for each parish as that might be quite a mess and we don't want to make people have separate logins for the state and parish sections. Ideally, we should keep it under one install for CiviCRM purposes because we need everything kept together there as well. Everything should be all in the main site and those subdomains just go to a handful of specific parish pages. Now, all of that out of the way, I've started to create a standardized system like so: office at subdomain.lplouisiana.org To start, we'll have seven emails for each parish as follows: sccrep chair secretary treasurer liaison campus membership Then according to the size of each PEC, for those not in an office, we'll have: districtN-Z atlargeN-Z According to if they elect by district or at large. We don't necessarily start N at "1" because the officers are actually either at-large or district members. A little messy, but not so bad because these won't be assigned until we know what was elected at the caucus and the PEC's first meeting. As well, each parish will have two mailing lists for communications. One for the PEC: pec at subdomain.lplouisiana.org One for member announcements: news at subdomain.lplouisiana.org But that's all after a PEC is formed. Of course, right now, I can also create: organizer at subdomain.lplouisiana.org for each parish and get them the info to use it. Take a look at the three web interfaces and tell me which one you think you like the best. Squirrel is fastest, but I think people will like using RoundCube more. Horde has the most features, but is quite 1995ish. The reason I ask is because I think we should simply set one system for auto-load so as not to confuse or confound anyone. I have noticed this is a problem for some of us that are less tech savvy already. Using one system will also cut down on any "help desk" questions we'll have to field as people learn to use the system. Ideally of course, I wish more people would use stand alone clients instead of webmail, but I know that's asking too much. The one thing I want to strongly discourage is forwarding. The two main reasons are doing so means there's no permanent record of the full conversation on our server, and second, replies don't look like they are coming from the same person the mail was sent to, and it won't look like its coming from the LPL. I'll go ahead and set up these organizer addresses right now and report back when they are done. I made up a "new user guide" for the email system with screen shots. I will remove the other two interfaces we don't choose and have that as a template to send to people as we bring them online. Don't sweat Drupal yet but feel free to keep learning about it I think I want to continue my original plan: Build out the current site to the current outline and plan Create the new content types in Drupal that will be needed to better handle the more complex views and pages. Port everything over to Drupal Try to copy the CSS styling over in a customized template so the two sites look similar. (I can't find a single Drupal template I like) Somewhere in between all that, I'll install CiviCRM so Howard can get crackin' on writing the import scripts for our various data sources. (LNC Dump, SoS voter list, Piryx donation records, etc.) It doesn't have to look pretty and the site doesn't have to be finished for him to start that work or for us to even use CiviCRM and get our feet wet on it. In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 3/4/13 9:13 PM, Keith Thompson wrote: Thanks for making the updates. I had a meeting with a drupal developer last week (we've been trying to have it for weeks, but his schedule was hectic), so I'm hoping to use my newfound knowledge to push forward on the site. I was looking at the email addresses for the parish coordinators and they all seem to be personal addresses (yahoo, etc.). Would it be possible to make a lplouisiana address for the different parishes? That way their correspondence seems more legitimate and we would be able to retain their emails/contacts when we switch coordinators. On 2013-03-03 16:49, Adrien Monteleone wrote: To all, Several updates have been completed on the LPL website. I've revamped the Events pages somewhat. Clicking the Events link, now takes you to a "Current Events" page which will primarily be events for the coming month, but possibly some future events two-three months in advance. At the bottom of this page is a link to an archive of previously posted events. These will be updated and rotated once per month at the least. You will now see under the Events menu for Calendar. This will take you to a page listing the various types of calendars we keep. (note, the full SCC calendar has been posted) Presently, you'll see one for the Board of Directors, caucuses, and conventions. Soon to be added are calendars for Supporting Committees, PECs, Elections and Special Events. You'll notice links in the Events menu for these as well. They take you to the same pages. It's just a direct link to each calendar. More updates coming later tonight... _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -- Image removed by sender. LPL Logo Keith Thompson Communications Officer Libertarian Party of Louisiana media at lplouisiana.org LPLouisiana.org _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 440 bytes Desc: not available URL: From chairman at lplouisiana.org Thu Mar 7 02:44:10 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 02:44:10 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] 2Q Board of Directors Meeting Message-ID: <5138535A.8020101@lplouisiana.org> To allBoard Members, This is a reminder that we will have our 2Q meeting in New Orleans on Saturday, April 13th, 2013. The meeting will be held at: Lakeview Harbor Banquet Room 911 Harrison Ave They normally charge $100 for this room on Saturdays, but are providing it instead for the guarantee of 20 people ordering lunch off their regular menu. Considering our previous attendance and the fact that we will have likely 15 members on the Board alone with our new Parish reps, this should not be a problem. Please expect to eat lunch at the opening of the meeting. I will have a menu for everyone in a day or so. We will have wifi access and a net-connected large screen TV. (not sure yet about any remote participation possibilities) The meeting will be posted tomorrow on Meetup.com and our LPL website. Any registered Libertarian voter is invited to attend. Otherwise, this is a closed meeting. A working agenda will be posted with the meeting announcements. If you have an item you'd like to add, please submit it no later than March 30th. I can't guarantee a time slot, so it's first come first served. We only have four hours, and part of that will be interrupted early on by lunch. Officer reports are due no later than March 30th as well. I don't want to schedule time for these reports during the meeting. I will be sending a template for the reports for you to use if you wish in the next week or so. To submit your reports, simply mail them to this discussion list for all other officers to read. The agenda will be finalized no later than April 6th. If you have any questions, please let me know. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: chairman.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 283 bytes Desc: not available URL: From chairman at lplouisiana.org Thu Mar 7 02:48:00 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 02:48:00 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] New Member! Message-ID: <51385440.5030405@lplouisiana.org> Gentlemen, Please welcome our newest member, Joey Kahrs, the Saint Tammany Parish Representative to the Board. Joey stepped up to the plate and sought the position of PEC Board Rep for his parish at their recent caucus in Mandeville. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: chairman.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 283 bytes Desc: not available URL: From chairman at lplouisiana.org Thu Mar 7 02:51:58 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 02:51:58 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Vacant Position Message-ID: <5138552E.6040506@lplouisiana.org> To all Board Members, As a reminder, we are still operating with an acting Treasurer. Recall, the present Secretary, Mr. Ebarb, who is acting Treasurer, had expressed an interest in moving permanantly into the Treasurer's office. If he is still so inclined, we are in need of a Party Secretary to round out our officer positions. If not, we are then in need of a Treasurer. If you know of anyone who may be interested in either of these responsibilities, please contact me as soon as possible. I'd like to have this issue settled for the April meeting. We can vote to appoint the replacement at that time, or by email beforehand. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: chairman.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 283 bytes Desc: not available URL: From membership at lplouisiana.org Fri Mar 8 06:39:22 2013 From: membership at lplouisiana.org (Membership LPL) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 06:39:22 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] 2Q Board of Directors Meeting In-Reply-To: <5138535A.8020101@lplouisiana.org> References: <5138535A.8020101@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <001601ce1bf9$f66cdfa0$e3469ee0$@org> Adrien, Two things. 1. What time is the meeting so I can put into my calendar. (if its stated I'm sorry I just don't see it) 2. Is there something specific you'd like from the MEMBERSHIP report? --------------------------- Howard Kearney Membership -----Original Message----- From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of Adrien Monteleone Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 2:44 AM To: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] 2Q Board of Directors Meeting To allBoard Members, This is a reminder that we will have our 2Q meeting in New Orleans on Saturday, April 13th, 2013. The meeting will be held at: Lakeview Harbor Banquet Room 911 Harrison Ave They normally charge $100 for this room on Saturdays, but are providing it instead for the guarantee of 20 people ordering lunch off their regular menu. Considering our previous attendance and the fact that we will have likely 15 members on the Board alone with our new Parish reps, this should not be a problem. Please expect to eat lunch at the opening of the meeting. I will have a menu for everyone in a day or so. We will have wifi access and a net-connected large screen TV. (not sure yet about any remote participation possibilities) The meeting will be posted tomorrow on Meetup.com and our LPL website. Any registered Libertarian voter is invited to attend. Otherwise, this is a closed meeting. A working agenda will be posted with the meeting announcements. If you have an item you'd like to add, please submit it no later than March 30th. I can't guarantee a time slot, so it's first come first served. We only have four hours, and part of that will be interrupted early on by lunch. Officer reports are due no later than March 30th as well. I don't want to schedule time for these reports during the meeting. I will be sending a template for the reports for you to use if you wish in the next week or so. To submit your reports, simply mail them to this discussion list for all other officers to read. The agenda will be finalized no later than April 6th. If you have any questions, please let me know. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana From membership at lplouisiana.org Fri Mar 8 07:12:40 2013 From: membership at lplouisiana.org (Membership LPL) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 07:12:40 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Website improvement suggestion In-Reply-To: <5138552E.6040506@lplouisiana.org> References: <5138552E.6040506@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <001801ce1bfe$9d2fc600$d78f5200$@org> Folks; During the radio interview with Wendy Adams on WRNO radio the host, Denny Schafer, had a bit of a time finding the Libertarian Party Platform. On air he said he finally found it by going to 'Issues' and then he found 'Platform'. I suggest we change the website Menu from 'Issues' to 'Platform'. Change the sub-menu option 'Platform' to say 'Libertarian Party Platform'. I believe this change will help folks who are researching our party and trying to decide if they will join. Lastly, related to this, maybe we could create a sub-menu item called 'Issues' (or our Position on Certain Issues). Or maybe the top issues of the day such as: Where do we stand on Drugs? Where do we stand on Homosexuality? Etc. There are many folks that I visit with that have a problem with the populous belief that all Libertarians want anarchy. If we could use or point to our position on issue of day maybe that would help? I realize this last suggestion is a lot of work and would be fraught with problems. But it could help us when we talk to the press or someone. --------------------------- Howard Kearney Membership From chairman at lplouisiana.org Fri Mar 8 10:54:11 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 10:54:11 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] 2Q Board of Directors Meeting In-Reply-To: <001601ce1bf9$f66cdfa0$e3469ee0$@org> References: <5138535A.8020101@lplouisiana.org> <001601ce1bf9$f66cdfa0$e3469ee0$@org> Message-ID: <513A17B3.2070706@lplouisiana.org> #1 Sorry. I had it in there but I guess in the editing process it got nixed. We have the meeting room from Noon till 4pm. I'll schedule a full 3 to 3-1/2 hours of agenda, so we'll not have much time at the beginning for stragglers and people to "get settled." I'll let the restaurant know we'll want to order as soon as possible so we can get that disruption out of the way early. I'm trying to get a menu with pricing on it today from them so everyone can have an idea ahead of time what they want to order. I'll find a way to arrange the agenda so whatever is going on for the first 30-45 minutes will be compatible with table service and us eating, perhaps a presentation or two on something. We already have someone interested in addressing our group as it is that I need to work in. Call to order will be high noon and adjourn will be 4pm. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ #2 Yes. Thanks for asking. I'm working on an outline for each office to report standard information, but for now, let's work with these figures: /Each is as of date of report or latest available data.// All growth # & % should be with reference to Jan 1 (as best as possible) for all reports throughout the year./ //Monthly tracking of these numbers would be nice, but not required for this initial report./ /*Voter Registration*/ /Total registered voters # of new voters % increase # of lost voters (those that were on the Jan list that aren't on the present list) # of party switchers (those that have a registration date earlier than Jan 1 but were not on the Jan 1 list) Highlight of parishes with largest # and % of LBT voters. (I'll have this included in the SoS list) / //Data source for this would of course be the SoS voter list - If you need the last full list I bought let me know, but I think I already sent it. I'll also be buying update lists and I'll send that to you as well when //it comes in./ *LNC Membership *Total active LNC members residing in La. # & % of new LNC members # & % of LNC members that are registered voters. (with annual change # & %) % of registered voters that are LNC members (with annual change # & %) /Data source for this would be the LNC Dumps for the state. If you don't have the latest one (March) let me know and I'll forward it./ *Dues Members & Pledges *Total annual LPL members (dues paying at $25 or more per year) # & % change in annual members % of LBT voters who are annual members. Breakdown in each level of membership Perhaps a highlight of parishes with highest # and/or highest percentage of LPL dues members. Total monthly pledges in # and $ per month and % change. Breakdown is fine, but there are lots of levels - up to you. /Data source for this would be the LPL website notifications and Piryx payment confirmations. If you don't get these let me know and I'll send you everything I have and make sure you get them in the future. /I know the above is more "finance" or treasury stuff, but your committee is in charge of the db that tracks this. Those two will be using these numbers to make decisions, but I think should be reported by the Membership officer. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ That should get you started. I'll have a template for you by Monday for the rest. Actual #'s won't be final on any of this of course until the date of the report. Feel free to put as much or little data in there as you feel appropriate or in the form you feel is most easily read and understood. Charts and graphs are optional. Let me know if you have any questions. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 03/08/2013 06:39 AM, Membership LPL wrote: > Adrien, > Two things. > > 1. What time is the meeting so I can put into my calendar. (if its stated > I'm sorry I just don't see it) > > 2. Is there something specific you'd like from the MEMBERSHIP report? > > --------------------------- > Howard Kearney > Membership > > -----Original Message----- > From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On > Behalf Of Adrien Monteleone > Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 2:44 AM > To: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors > Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] 2Q Board of Directors Meeting > > To allBoard Members, > > This is a reminder that we will have our 2Q meeting in New Orleans on > Saturday, April 13th, 2013. > > The meeting will be held at: > > Lakeview Harbor Banquet Room > 911 Harrison Ave > > They normally charge $100 for this room on Saturdays, but are providing it > instead for the guarantee of 20 people ordering lunch off their regular > menu. > Considering our previous attendance and the fact that we will have likely 15 > members on the Board alone with our new Parish reps, this should not be a > problem. Please expect to eat lunch at the opening of the meeting. I will > have a menu for everyone in a day or so. > > We will have wifi access and a net-connected large screen TV. (not sure yet > about any remote participation possibilities) > > The meeting will be posted tomorrow on Meetup.com and our LPL website. > > Any registered Libertarian voter is invited to attend. Otherwise, this is a > closed meeting. > > A working agenda will be posted with the meeting announcements. > > If you have an item you'd like to add, please submit it no later than March > 30th. I can't guarantee a time slot, so it's first come first served. We > only have four hours, and part of that will be interrupted early on by > lunch. > > Officer reports are due no later than March 30th as well. > > I don't want to schedule time for these reports during the meeting. > > I will be sending a template for the reports for you to use if you wish in > the next week or so. > > To submit your reports, simply mail them to this discussion list for all > other officers to read. > > The agenda will be finalized no later than April 6th. > > If you have any questions, please let me know. > > > -- > In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: chairman.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 297 bytes Desc: not available URL: From chairman at lplouisiana.org Fri Mar 8 12:00:27 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 12:00:27 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Website improvement suggestion In-Reply-To: <001801ce1bfe$9d2fc600$d78f5200$@org> References: <5138552E.6040506@lplouisiana.org> <001801ce1bfe$9d2fc600$d78f5200$@org> Message-ID: <513A273B.3050806@lplouisiana.org> Excellent point. I was copying the menu structure used by LP.org at the time. (which begs the question, was he searching on OUR site or LP.org - many people do not know there is a state site or a state platform) The reason for the "Issues" structure is we'll have more to put there than just the platform, and the platform is a formal document that doesn't include other things that will fit under "issues." (like the Amendment guide for example) Right now, the State Platform is a just the first section - General Principles. The second section - Policy Positions has not been drawn up or adopted. Though there are some working documents on this I can share with everyone. Perhaps we can adopt these as Board policies by resolution until they are integrated into that section at a convention. (the LNC does something similar) Here's what I'll do, since most people are going to be looking for "platform" I'm going to highlight it by moving the "Are You Libertarian" section to the top. I'll also add the following links there (and in the "issues" menu): National Platform State Platform Take a look at the site now and let me know if you think this accomplishes the goal while preserving the concept of the more inclusive "issues" menu. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 03/08/2013 07:12 AM, Membership LPL wrote: > Folks; > During the radio interview with Wendy Adams on WRNO radio the host, Denny > Schafer, had a bit of a time finding the Libertarian Party Platform. On air > he said he finally found it by going to 'Issues' and then he found > 'Platform'. > > I suggest we change the website Menu from 'Issues' to 'Platform'. Change the > sub-menu option 'Platform' to say 'Libertarian Party Platform'. > > I believe this change will help folks who are researching our party and > trying to decide if they will join. > > Lastly, related to this, maybe we could create a sub-menu item called > 'Issues' (or our Position on Certain Issues). Or maybe the top issues of the > day such as: Where do we stand on Drugs? Where do we stand on Homosexuality? > Etc. There are many folks that I visit with that have a problem with the > populous belief that all Libertarians want anarchy. If we could use or point > to our position on issue of day maybe that would help? I realize this last > suggestion is a lot of work and would be fraught with problems. But it could > help us when we talk to the press or someone. > > > --------------------------- > Howard Kearney > Membership > > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: chairman.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 297 bytes Desc: not available URL: From sccrep at sainttammany.lplouisiana.org Sat Mar 9 21:55:13 2013 From: sccrep at sainttammany.lplouisiana.org (Joseph Kahrs) Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 21:55:13 -0600 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] New Member! In-Reply-To: <51385440.5030405@lplouisiana.org> References: <51385440.5030405@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: Thank you for your warm welcome. I'm excited about working with all of you in the future. On 03/07/2013 2:48 am, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > Gentlemen, > > Please welcome our newest member, Joey Kahrs, the Saint Tammany > Parish Representative to the Board. > > Joey stepped up to the plate and sought the position of PEC Board Rep > for his parish at their recent caucus in Mandeville. > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -- Joseph Kahrs - St. Tammany Parish Representative Libertarian Party of Louisiana From chairman at lplouisiana.org Mon Mar 11 11:18:08 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 11:18:08 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] 2Q Meeting Agenda Message-ID: <513E03C0.3070706@lplouisiana.org> A working agenda has been posted on our website with the meeting announcement. You can find it by going to the Board of Directors calendar under Events, and then clicking on the link for this meeting. There's been some question on the topic of officer reports and meeting time. I am allotting time for topic discussion, should we need it, to cover those areas overseen by each supporting officer. Tentatively, I've set aside 10 minutes each. I've asked for officer reports in advance, so that we all have time to read and digest the information, and then we can spend our limited meeting time in discussion and decision making. (if any) If you don't think there is anything to discuss concerning your committee and its area of responsibility at this meeting, please let me know so I can free up the time for other things if we need it. I've also blocked out time for the Organizers from the 10 parishes that are in progress to address the Board and let us know how things are going in their parish, or if they have any special concerns or issues they would like us to address. As well, the (soon to be) six Parish Representatives will have a few minutes each to introduce themselves to the Board and do the same. I still have a few other things to work in, and this is all still subject to change. The Agenda will be finalized on April 6th. Of important note is that we will need to all be prepared to order our meal as quickly as possible with the least disruption to the meeting. I'm trying to get a lunch menu with prices from the restaurant and will send it to each of you as soon as I have it. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: chairman.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 283 bytes Desc: not available URL: From chairman at lplouisiana.org Mon Mar 11 14:25:11 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 14:25:11 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Executive Director Contract Message-ID: <513E2F97.80206@lplouisiana.org> To all, I've finally, after 8 weeks, secured a signed contract from our Executive Director. The initial contract we offered, $250 a week for one year, and a $1200 expense allowance was rejected, though it was more than what we had contracted for in the 4th Quarter of 2012. I secured your votes on a motion to add two methods of incentive pay to both reward her for efforts and to provide incentive to reach Planning Committee goals. This offered the possibility of an additional $7000-$8000+ to be earned for the year. This was flatly rejected as well. In consultation with the Treasurer, we found room in the current bank balance, and taking into account the current rate of fundraising to offer $350 per week, but without incentive options. Ms. Adams countered with $350 per week and a $917 bonus per parish organized. The Treasurer spoke to her by phone and he made a final offer of $400 per week, no incentive or bonus options. She accepted, but asked if the $400 per week could me made retroactive to January 12th. (what would have been the original start date of the contract) The Treasurer advised this was not possible. Additionally, he advised that this puts a serious strain on our cash flow, and puts the term of the contract in jeopardy. Thus, I only offered this deal for 5 weeks. (till the end of this quarter, to expire Friday April 12th, the day before our next meeting) This will give us time to re-evaluate and gauge our financial position. According to the Treasurer, we should be able to meet this obligation and our usual expenses through mid April, though this will seriously deplete the bank balance unless funding continues to roll in. (it has stalled abruptly over the last few days, but that is nothing new, we've experienced fits and starts in the past) This will also impact our ability to engage in other projects, particularly, efforts to mail out to recently registered voters to get them involved. (discussed at the last meeting) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The main issue complicating the original acceptance of the contract was that we were offering a part-time contract and she wanted a full-time offer. The contract as we had been operating under, and as we had offered for 2013, was for 10-15 hours of work per week. This was to include contacting Inquiries, New Volunteers, and new registered voters to encourage greater participation, soliciting annual dues, and to provide any requested information about the party to these new people. She was also tasked with candidate recruitment, and providing support to parish organizers to help them through the process of holding a caucus and electing PEC's. The Exective Director instead deemed recruiting candidates "not possible" or "feasible" for the Spring Elections - thus we had no candidates. As well, she determined that the Parish Organizers were not doing or were not going to do, any of the tasks to organize their parishes, and so took it upon herself to do all of the work. I had advised several times this was not what we asked for and that we could not afford to pay for this level of work at this time. She assured me she understood this, but felt this was the best and only way to organize the parishes, and that she was going to do it anyway, looking forward to building the party to the point it could support her full time. When I requested the contract be signed and returned to me ASAP, she let me know that she could not agree to $250 per week as it was not sufficient to compensate her for the 50-60 hours she had to work the two previous weeks organizing various parishes. (though she had previously made clear she understood we could not afford to pay for, and that she was volunteering this extra effort for future benefit to her and the LPL) It was at this point we entered the above negotiations and came to an agreement. In this current contract, I have reworded and re-ordered the services requested in a priority fashion. I've also explicitly included responsibility for establishing PECs, but I have made it clear in a subsequent email to her that this DOES NOT include or is not meant to be interpreted as her assuming full-time duties of all of the parish organizers, that she is to provide assitance and support to guide them through the process, not do their jobs for them as she had been doing. She replied that she understood this and that any extra effort on her part would be volunteered. I have also included the expense allowance as originally offered since travel to the various parishes is not required of her or necessary to fulfill her obligations. (I am attending all caucuses except one, and I will work on finding someone to attend that one on behalf of the Board) However, I have reduced the allowance amount since some of it has been used already. Attached is the signed version of the contract if you are interested. If you have any questions or anything you'd like to discuss, please feel free... -- -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: LPL ED 1Q 2013 Contract - Signed.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 300812 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: chairman.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 308 bytes Desc: not available URL: From membership at lplouisiana.org Mon Mar 11 15:42:32 2013 From: membership at lplouisiana.org (Membership LPL) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 15:42:32 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Executive Director Contract In-Reply-To: <513E2F97.80206@lplouisiana.org> References: <513E2F97.80206@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <000501ce1e98$f5143e90$df3cbbb0$@org> This is $400 per week for 10-15 hours per week expectation. Right? --------------------------- Howard Kearney Membership From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of Adrien Monteleone Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 2:25 PM To: scc at lplouisiana.org Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Executive Director Contract To all, I've finally, after 8 weeks, secured a signed contract from our Executive Director. The initial contract we offered, $250 a week for one year, and a $1200 expense allowance was rejected, though it was more than what we had contracted for in the 4th Quarter of 2012. I secured your votes on a motion to add two methods of incentive pay to both reward her for efforts and to provide incentive to reach Planning Committee goals. This offered the possibility of an additional $7000-$8000+ to be earned for the year. This was flatly rejected as well. In consultation with the Treasurer, we found room in the current bank balance, and taking into account the current rate of fundraising to offer $350 per week, but without incentive options. Ms. Adams countered with $350 per week and a $917 bonus per parish organized. The Treasurer spoke to her by phone and he made a final offer of $400 per week, no incentive or bonus options. She accepted, but asked if the $400 per week could me made retroactive to January 12th. (what would have been the original start date of the contract) The Treasurer advised this was not possible. Additionally, he advised that this puts a serious strain on our cash flow, and puts the term of the contract in jeopardy. Thus, I only offered this deal for 5 weeks. (till the end of this quarter, to expire Friday April 12th, the day before our next meeting) This will give us time to re-evaluate and gauge our financial position. According to the Treasurer, we should be able to meet this obligation and our usual expenses through mid April, though this will seriously deplete the bank balance unless funding continues to roll in. (it has stalled abruptly over the last few days, but that is nothing new, we've experienced fits and starts in the past) This will also impact our ability to engage in other projects, particularly, efforts to mail out to recently registered voters to get them involved. (discussed at the last meeting) _____ The main issue complicating the original acceptance of the contract was that we were offering a part-time contract and she wanted a full-time offer. The contract as we had been operating under, and as we had offered for 2013, was for 10-15 hours of work per week. This was to include contacting Inquiries, New Volunteers, and new registered voters to encourage greater participation, soliciting annual dues, and to provide any requested information about the party to these new people. She was also tasked with candidate recruitment, and providing support to parish organizers to help them through the process of holding a caucus and electing PEC's. The Exective Director instead deemed recruiting candidates "not possible" or "feasible" for the Spring Elections - thus we had no candidates. As well, she determined that the Parish Organizers were not doing or were not going to do, any of the tasks to organize their parishes, and so took it upon herself to do all of the work. I had advised several times this was not what we asked for and that we could not afford to pay for this level of work at this time. She assured me she understood this, but felt this was the best and only way to organize the parishes, and that she was going to do it anyway, looking forward to building the party to the point it could support her full time. When I requested the contract be signed and returned to me ASAP, she let me know that she could not agree to $250 per week as it was not sufficient to compensate her for the 50-60 hours she had to work the two previous weeks organizing various parishes. (though she had previously made clear she understood we could not afford to pay for, and that she was volunteering this extra effort for future benefit to her and the LPL) It was at this point we entered the above negotiations and came to an agreement. In this current contract, I have reworded and re-ordered the services requested in a priority fashion. I've also explicitly included responsibility for establishing PECs, but I have made it clear in a subsequent email to her that this DOES NOT include or is not meant to be interpreted as her assuming full-time duties of all of the parish organizers, that she is to provide assitance and support to guide them through the process, not do their jobs for them as she had been doing. She replied that she understood this and that any extra effort on her part would be volunteered. I have also included the expense allowance as originally offered since travel to the various parishes is not required of her or necessary to fulfill her obligations. (I am attending all caucuses except one, and I will work on finding someone to attend that one on behalf of the Board) However, I have reduced the allowance amount since some of it has been used already. Attached is the signed version of the contract if you are interested. If you have any questions or anything you'd like to discuss, please feel free... -- -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chairman at lplouisiana.org Mon Mar 11 17:16:56 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 17:16:56 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Executive Director Contract In-Reply-To: <000501ce1e98$f5143e90$df3cbbb0$@org> References: <513E2F97.80206@lplouisiana.org> <000501ce1e98$f5143e90$df3cbbb0$@org> Message-ID: <513E57D8.6020405@lplouisiana.org> That is correct. Though since there are multiple parishes in the pipeline all at once, it would be reasonable to expect that actual work could be closer to 20 hours. Thus keeping the same basic estimate of pay/hour at near $20. Even if the time were for some reason double the original high estimate and reach 30 hours, we're looking at $13.33 per hour. If it turned out to be 40 hours, it would of course be $10 per hour and so on. Considering most of the planning has already been accomplished for the 5 parishes in the pipeline, we don't see how there would be a need for more than 1 hour of work for each one if that at all save the actual caucuses, which will hopefully be smoother and shorter than the one in Saint Tammany. I do know there are 10 more in the planning stages, but hopefully we've cleared up that this should not all be borne by the ED. And certainly, if need be, these can and should be stretched out on the calendar so as not to produce a situation where too much is required all at once that we can't pay for. A single caucus would require at the least, the meeting itself at about 2-3 hours. (where the ED's attendance is not required or expected) She has found a planning meeting or two in advance is helpful as well. That should be about 2 hours all together. (one long or two shorter meetings, also where the ED is not required or expected to attend) Add in another 4 hours total for the coordinating efforts working with the Parish Organizer, and a best estimate is that counting meeting attendance, a caucus should take about 8 hours spread out over 2 months, which averages to one hour per week per caucus. Thus this contract amount should suffice to cover an additional 5 hours per week if 5 caucuses were being planned all at the same time. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 03/11/2013 03:42 PM, Membership LPL wrote: > > This is $400 per week for 10-15 hours per week expectation. Right? > > --------------------------- > > Howard Kearney > > Membership > > *From:*scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org > [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] *On Behalf Of *Adrien Monteleone > *Sent:* Monday, March 11, 2013 2:25 PM > *To:* scc at lplouisiana.org > *Subject:* [LPL Board of Directors] Executive Director Contract > > To all, > > I've finally, after 8 weeks, secured a signed contract from our > Executive Director. > > The initial contract we offered, $250 a week for one year, and a $1200 > expense allowance was rejected, though it was more than what we had > contracted for in the 4th Quarter of 2012. > > I secured your votes on a motion to add two methods of incentive pay > to both reward her for efforts and to provide incentive to reach > Planning Committee goals. This offered the possibility of an > additional $7000-$8000+ to be earned for the year. > > This was flatly rejected as well. > > In consultation with the Treasurer, we found room in the current bank > balance, and taking into account the current rate of fundraising to > offer $350 per week, but without incentive options. > > Ms. Adams countered with $350 per week and a $917 bonus per parish > organized. > > The Treasurer spoke to her by phone and he made a final offer of $400 > per week, no incentive or bonus options. > > She accepted, but asked if the $400 per week could me made retroactive > to January 12th. (what would have been the original start date of the > contract) The Treasurer advised this was not possible. > > Additionally, he advised that this puts a serious strain on our cash > flow, and puts the term of the contract in jeopardy. Thus, I only > offered this deal for 5 weeks. (till the end of this quarter, to > expire Friday April 12th, the day before our next meeting) > > This will give us time to re-evaluate and gauge our financial > position. According to the Treasurer, we should be able to meet this > obligation and our usual expenses through mid April, though this will > seriously deplete the bank balance unless funding continues to roll > in. (it has stalled abruptly over the last few days, but that is > nothing new, we've experienced fits and starts in the past) > > This will also impact our ability to engage in other projects, > particularly, efforts to mail out to recently registered voters to get > them involved. (discussed at the last meeting) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > The main issue complicating the original acceptance of the contract > was that we were offering a part-time contract and she wanted a > full-time offer. > > The contract as we had been operating under, and as we had offered for > 2013, was for 10-15 hours of work per week. This was to include > contacting Inquiries, New Volunteers, and new registered voters to > encourage greater participation, soliciting annual dues, and to > provide any requested information about the party to these new > people. She was also tasked with candidate recruitment, and providing > support to parish organizers to help them through the process of > holding a caucus and electing PEC's. > > The Exective Director instead deemed recruiting candidates "not > possible" or "feasible" for the Spring Elections - thus we had no > candidates. > > As well, she determined that the Parish Organizers were not doing or > were not going to do, any of the tasks to organize their parishes, and > so took it upon herself to do all of the work. I had advised several > times this was not what we asked for and that we could not afford to > pay for this level of work at this time. She assured me she > understood this, but felt this was the best and only way to organize > the parishes, and that she was going to do it anyway, looking forward > to building the party to the point it could support her full time. > > When I requested the contract be signed and returned to me ASAP, she > let me know that she could not agree to $250 per week as it was not > sufficient to compensate her for the 50-60 hours she had to work the > two previous weeks organizing various parishes. (though she had > previously made clear she understood we could not afford to pay for, > and that she was volunteering this extra effort for future benefit to > her and the LPL) > > It was at this point we entered the above negotiations and came to an > agreement. > > In this current contract, I have reworded and re-ordered the services > requested in a priority fashion. I've also explicitly included > responsibility for establishing PECs, but I have made it clear in a > subsequent email to her that this DOES NOT include or is not meant to > be interpreted as her assuming full-time duties of all of the parish > organizers, that she is to provide assitance and support to guide them > through the process, not do their jobs for them as she had been doing. > She replied that she understood this and that any extra effort on her > part would be volunteered. > > I have also included the expense allowance as originally offered since > travel to the various parishes is not required of her or necessary to > fulfill her obligations. (I am attending all caucuses except one, and > I will work on finding someone to attend that one on behalf of the Board) > However, I have reduced the allowance amount since some of it has been > used already. > > Attached is the signed version of the contract if you are interested. > > If you have any questions or anything you'd like to discuss, please > feel free... > > -- > -- In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: chairman.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 297 bytes Desc: not available URL: From membership at lplouisiana.org Mon Mar 11 19:32:55 2013 From: membership at lplouisiana.org (Membership LPL) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:32:55 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Executive Director Contract In-Reply-To: <513E57D8.6020405@lplouisiana.org> References: <513E2F97.80206@lplouisiana.org> <000501ce1e98$f5143e90$df3cbbb0$@org> <513E57D8.6020405@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <000001ce1eb9$24313230$6c939690$@org> I would also add the administrative tracking side of things that have been requested she track and report on. --------------------------- Howard Kearney Membership From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of Adrien Monteleone Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 5:17 PM To: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Executive Director Contract That is correct. Though since there are multiple parishes in the pipeline all at once, it would be reasonable to expect that actual work could be closer to 20 hours. Thus keeping the same basic estimate of pay/hour at near $20. Even if the time were for some reason double the original high estimate and reach 30 hours, we're looking at $13.33 per hour. If it turned out to be 40 hours, it would of course be $10 per hour and so on. Considering most of the planning has already been accomplished for the 5 parishes in the pipeline, we don't see how there would be a need for more than 1 hour of work for each one if that at all save the actual caucuses, which will hopefully be smoother and shorter than the one in Saint Tammany. I do know there are 10 more in the planning stages, but hopefully we've cleared up that this should not all be borne by the ED. And certainly, if need be, these can and should be stretched out on the calendar so as not to produce a situation where too much is required all at once that we can't pay for. A single caucus would require at the least, the meeting itself at about 2-3 hours. (where the ED's attendance is not required or expected) She has found a planning meeting or two in advance is helpful as well. That should be about 2 hours all together. (one long or two shorter meetings, also where the ED is not required or expected to attend) Add in another 4 hours total for the coordinating efforts working with the Parish Organizer, and a best estimate is that counting meeting attendance, a caucus should take about 8 hours spread out over 2 months, which averages to one hour per week per caucus. Thus this contract amount should suffice to cover an additional 5 hours per week if 5 caucuses were being planned all at the same time. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 03/11/2013 03:42 PM, Membership LPL wrote: This is $400 per week for 10-15 hours per week expectation. Right? --------------------------- Howard Kearney Membership From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of Adrien Monteleone Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 2:25 PM To: scc at lplouisiana.org Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Executive Director Contract To all, I've finally, after 8 weeks, secured a signed contract from our Executive Director. The initial contract we offered, $250 a week for one year, and a $1200 expense allowance was rejected, though it was more than what we had contracted for in the 4th Quarter of 2012. I secured your votes on a motion to add two methods of incentive pay to both reward her for efforts and to provide incentive to reach Planning Committee goals. This offered the possibility of an additional $7000-$8000+ to be earned for the year. This was flatly rejected as well. In consultation with the Treasurer, we found room in the current bank balance, and taking into account the current rate of fundraising to offer $350 per week, but without incentive options. Ms. Adams countered with $350 per week and a $917 bonus per parish organized. The Treasurer spoke to her by phone and he made a final offer of $400 per week, no incentive or bonus options. She accepted, but asked if the $400 per week could me made retroactive to January 12th. (what would have been the original start date of the contract) The Treasurer advised this was not possible. Additionally, he advised that this puts a serious strain on our cash flow, and puts the term of the contract in jeopardy. Thus, I only offered this deal for 5 weeks. (till the end of this quarter, to expire Friday April 12th, the day before our next meeting) This will give us time to re-evaluate and gauge our financial position. According to the Treasurer, we should be able to meet this obligation and our usual expenses through mid April, though this will seriously deplete the bank balance unless funding continues to roll in. (it has stalled abruptly over the last few days, but that is nothing new, we've experienced fits and starts in the past) This will also impact our ability to engage in other projects, particularly, efforts to mail out to recently registered voters to get them involved. (discussed at the last meeting) _____ The main issue complicating the original acceptance of the contract was that we were offering a part-time contract and she wanted a full-time offer. The contract as we had been operating under, and as we had offered for 2013, was for 10-15 hours of work per week. This was to include contacting Inquiries, New Volunteers, and new registered voters to encourage greater participation, soliciting annual dues, and to provide any requested information about the party to these new people. She was also tasked with candidate recruitment, and providing support to parish organizers to help them through the process of holding a caucus and electing PEC's. The Exective Director instead deemed recruiting candidates "not possible" or "feasible" for the Spring Elections - thus we had no candidates. As well, she determined that the Parish Organizers were not doing or were not going to do, any of the tasks to organize their parishes, and so took it upon herself to do all of the work. I had advised several times this was not what we asked for and that we could not afford to pay for this level of work at this time. She assured me she understood this, but felt this was the best and only way to organize the parishes, and that she was going to do it anyway, looking forward to building the party to the point it could support her full time. When I requested the contract be signed and returned to me ASAP, she let me know that she could not agree to $250 per week as it was not sufficient to compensate her for the 50-60 hours she had to work the two previous weeks organizing various parishes. (though she had previously made clear she understood we could not afford to pay for, and that she was volunteering this extra effort for future benefit to her and the LPL) It was at this point we entered the above negotiations and came to an agreement. In this current contract, I have reworded and re-ordered the services requested in a priority fashion. I've also explicitly included responsibility for establishing PECs, but I have made it clear in a subsequent email to her that this DOES NOT include or is not meant to be interpreted as her assuming full-time duties of all of the parish organizers, that she is to provide assitance and support to guide them through the process, not do their jobs for them as she had been doing. She replied that she understood this and that any extra effort on her part would be volunteered. I have also included the expense allowance as originally offered since travel to the various parishes is not required of her or necessary to fulfill her obligations. (I am attending all caucuses except one, and I will work on finding someone to attend that one on behalf of the Board) However, I have reduced the allowance amount since some of it has been used already. Attached is the signed version of the contract if you are interested. If you have any questions or anything you'd like to discuss, please feel free... -- -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chairman at lplouisiana.org Mon Mar 11 21:38:28 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 21:38:28 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Executive Director Contract In-Reply-To: <000001ce1eb9$24313230$6c939690$@org> References: <513E2F97.80206@lplouisiana.org> <000501ce1e98$f5143e90$df3cbbb0$@org> <513E57D8.6020405@lplouisiana.org> <000001ce1eb9$24313230$6c939690$@org> Message-ID: <513E9524.9050201@lplouisiana.org> I'm sorry Howard, my memory is failing me lately and I seem to have misplaced my notes from the Jan meeting. Could you expound on this to refresh my memory? Thanks. In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 3/11/13 7:32 PM, Membership LPL wrote: > > I would also add the administrative tracking side of things that have been > requested she track and report on... > > --------------------------- > > Howard Kearney > > Membership > > *From:*scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] *On > Behalf Of *Adrien Monteleone > *Sent:* Monday, March 11, 2013 5:17 PM > *To:* Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors > *Subject:* Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Executive Director Contract > > That is correct. Though since there are multiple parishes in the pipeline > all at once, it would be reasonable to expect that actual work could be > closer to 20 hours. Thus keeping the same basic estimate of pay/hour at > near $20. Even if the time were for some reason double the original high > estimate and reach 30 hours, we're looking at $13.33 per hour. If it turned > out to be 40 hours, it would of course be $10 per hour and so on. > Considering most of the planning has already been accomplished for the 5 > parishes in the pipeline, we don't see how there would be a need for more > than 1 hour of work for each one if that at all save the actual caucuses, > which will hopefully be smoother and shorter than the one in Saint Tammany. > > I do know there are 10 more in the planning stages, but hopefully we've > cleared up that this should not all be borne by the ED. And certainly, if > need be, these can and should be stretched out on the calendar so as not to > produce a situation where too much is required all at once that we can't pay > for. > > A single caucus would require at the least, the meeting itself at about 2-3 > hours. (where the ED's attendance is not required or expected) She has > found a planning meeting or two in advance is helpful as well. That should > be about 2 hours all together. (one long or two shorter meetings, also where > the ED is not required or expected to attend) Add in another 4 hours total > for the coordinating efforts working with the Parish Organizer, and a best > estimate is that counting meeting attendance, a caucus should take about 8 > hours spread out over 2 months, which averages to one hour per week per > caucus. Thus this contract amount should suffice to cover an additional 5 > hours per week if 5 caucuses were being planned all at the same time. > > > > -- In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > On 03/11/2013 03:42 PM, Membership LPL wrote: > > This is $400 per week for 10-15 hours per week expectation. Right? > > --------------------------- > > Howard Kearney > > Membership > > *From:*scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org > [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] *On Behalf Of *Adrien Monteleone > *Sent:* Monday, March 11, 2013 2:25 PM > *To:* scc at lplouisiana.org > *Subject:* [LPL Board of Directors] Executive Director Contract > > To all, > > I've finally, after 8 weeks, secured a signed contract from our > Executive Director. > > The initial contract we offered, $250 a week for one year, and a $1200 > expense allowance was rejected, though it was more than what we had > contracted for in the 4th Quarter of 2012. > > I secured your votes on a motion to add two methods of incentive pay to > both reward her for efforts and to provide incentive to reach Planning > Committee goals. This offered the possibility of an additional > $7000-$8000+ to be earned for the year. > > This was flatly rejected as well. > > In consultation with the Treasurer, we found room in the current bank > balance, and taking into account the current rate of fundraising to > offer $350 per week, but without incentive options. > > Ms. Adams countered with $350 per week and a $917 bonus per parish > organized. > > The Treasurer spoke to her by phone and he made a final offer of $400 > per week, no incentive or bonus options. > > She accepted, but asked if the $400 per week could me made retroactive > to January 12th. (what would have been the original start date of the > contract) The Treasurer advised this was not possible. > > Additionally, he advised that this puts a serious strain on our cash > flow, and puts the term of the contract in jeopardy. Thus, I only > offered this deal for 5 weeks. (till the end of this quarter, to expire > Friday April 12th, the day before our next meeting) > > This will give us time to re-evaluate and gauge our financial position. > According to the Treasurer, we should be able to meet this obligation > and our usual expenses through mid April, though this will seriously > deplete the bank balance unless funding continues to roll in. (it has > stalled abruptly over the last few days, but that is nothing new, we've > experienced fits and starts in the past) > > This will also impact our ability to engage in other projects, > particularly, efforts to mail out to recently registered voters to get > them involved. (discussed at the last meeting) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > The main issue complicating the original acceptance of the contract was > that we were offering a part-time contract and she wanted a full-time offer. > > The contract as we had been operating under, and as we had offered for > 2013, was for 10-15 hours of work per week. This was to include > contacting Inquiries, New Volunteers, and new registered voters to > encourage greater participation, soliciting annual dues, and to provide > any requested information about the party to these new people. She was > also tasked with candidate recruitment, and providing support to parish > organizers to help them through the process of holding a caucus and > electing PEC's. > > The Exective Director instead deemed recruiting candidates "not > possible" or "feasible" for the Spring Elections - thus we had no > candidates. > > As well, she determined that the Parish Organizers were not doing or > were not going to do, any of the tasks to organize their parishes, and > so took it upon herself to do all of the work. I had advised several > times this was not what we asked for and that we could not afford to pay > for this level of work at this time. She assured me she understood > this, but felt this was the best and only way to organize the parishes, > and that she was going to do it anyway, looking forward to building the > party to the point it could support her full time. > > When I requested the contract be signed and returned to me ASAP, she let > me know that she could not agree to $250 per week as it was not > sufficient to compensate her for the 50-60 hours she had to work the two > previous weeks organizing various parishes. (though she had previously > made clear she understood we could not afford to pay for, and that she > was volunteering this extra effort for future benefit to her and the LPL) > > It was at this point we entered the above negotiations and came to an > agreement. > > In this current contract, I have reworded and re-ordered the services > requested in a priority fashion. I've also explicitly included > responsibility for establishing PECs, but I have made it clear in a > subsequent email to her that this DOES NOT include or is not meant to be > interpreted as her assuming full-time duties of all of the parish > organizers, that she is to provide assitance and support to guide them > through the process, not do their jobs for them as she had been doing. > She replied that she understood this and that any extra effort on her > part would be volunteered. > > I have also included the expense allowance as originally offered since > travel to the various parishes is not required of her or necessary to > fulfill her obligations. (I am attending all caucuses except one, and I > will work on finding someone to attend that one on behalf of the Board) > However, I have reduced the allowance amount since some of it has been > used already. > > Attached is the signed version of the contract if you are interested. > > If you have any questions or anything you'd like to discuss, please feel > free... > > > -- > > -- In Liberty, > > > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SCC mailing list > > SCC at lplouisiana.org > > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: chairman.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 283 bytes Desc: not available URL: From treasurer at lplouisiana.org Tue Mar 12 00:00:30 2013 From: treasurer at lplouisiana.org (treasurer at lplouisiana.org) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 00:00:30 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Outreach Potential Message-ID: Hello everyone. I know many of you don't hear from me often and perhaps that is best. I certainly prefer just handling the money and answering financial questions. However, I would like to very quickly make a proposal to everyone for them to think about. I have worked for several political campaigns, including the Gary Johnson Campaign, and I also currently work on Public Outreach for a non-profit in Shreveport. I have been researching and trying to find the best way to really reach out and increase our number of registered Libertarians, as well as our exposure, while keeping the process as cost effective as possible. So below is a proposal to increase registration AND exposure for everyone to look at and think about based on my experience and research. -------------------------------------------------------------------- An organization needs to reach the average person 3 different ways to make sure they really hear the message of that organization and remember the name. So, how do we reach our independent, third party, and major party voters while remaining cost effective? We need to do this on a parish by parish basis to ensure it is effective and cost effective. Below is our 3 ways: 1. Mass Mailing. We can buy a registered voters list and get the names and addresses of whatever group we want to target. If we do basic, two sided post cards, that would be a great idea. It's cost effective for the most part. 2. Door Hangers. Whatever area we hit with mailing, we also need to hit with door hangers. This is our second way of reaching people. Whatever approach the mailing takes towards reaching people, the door hangers need to take a different approach. 3. Free Media. This one is up to the PEC. This includes radio, letters to the editor, etc. In order to really pull this off, we would need a strong PEC with people in that area that are willing to work. I can only think of two Parishes right now that would be good candidates. Oddly enough, they are on different sides of the state. St. Tammany and Bossier are the only ones I know of with the manpower to pull this off. If nothing else, lets get started on making designs for door hangers and post cards. When we have the money and manpower to move forward with something like this, we have the designs ready to go. From membership at lplouisiana.org Tue Mar 12 06:03:31 2013 From: membership at lplouisiana.org (Membership LPL) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 06:03:31 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Outreach Potential In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001701ce1f11$3be39a00$b3aace00$@org> Great ideas. I find these door hangers are effective and I suggest: http://www.lp.org/blogs/staff/quiz-across-america-door-hangers-5-per-100 --------------------------- Howard Kearney Membership -----Original Message----- From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of treasurer at lplouisiana.org Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 12:01 AM To: scc at lplouisiana.org Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Outreach Potential Hello everyone. I know many of you don't hear from me often and perhaps that is best. I certainly prefer just handling the money and answering financial questions. However, I would like to very quickly make a proposal to everyone for them to think about. I have worked for several political campaigns, including the Gary Johnson Campaign, and I also currently work on Public Outreach for a non-profit in Shreveport. I have been researching and trying to find the best way to really reach out and increase our number of registered Libertarians, as well as our exposure, while keeping the process as cost effective as possible. So below is a proposal to increase registration AND exposure for everyone to look at and think about based on my experience and research. -------------------------------------------------------------------- An organization needs to reach the average person 3 different ways to make sure they really hear the message of that organization and remember the name. So, how do we reach our independent, third party, and major party voters while remaining cost effective? We need to do this on a parish by parish basis to ensure it is effective and cost effective. Below is our 3 ways: 1. Mass Mailing. We can buy a registered voters list and get the names and addresses of whatever group we want to target. If we do basic, two sided post cards, that would be a great idea. It's cost effective for the most part. 2. Door Hangers. Whatever area we hit with mailing, we also need to hit with door hangers. This is our second way of reaching people. Whatever approach the mailing takes towards reaching people, the door hangers need to take a different approach. 3. Free Media. This one is up to the PEC. This includes radio, letters to the editor, etc. In order to really pull this off, we would need a strong PEC with people in that area that are willing to work. I can only think of two Parishes right now that would be good candidates. Oddly enough, they are on different sides of the state. St. Tammany and Bossier are the only ones I know of with the manpower to pull this off. If nothing else, lets get started on making designs for door hangers and post cards. When we have the money and manpower to move forward with something like this, we have the designs ready to go. _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org From chairman at lplouisiana.org Tue Mar 12 13:15:35 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 13:15:35 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Outreach Potential In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <513F70C7.1040508@lplouisiana.org> Hell of a plan. I'm for it. I suspect in about 5-7 weeks, we'll have another 6 or so parishes strong enough to do this as well. I'll add that these three steps should occur close together but not right on top of each other. Each step needs a bit of time for people to let the idea gel in their minds. The impact is from the message being reinforced almost when they forgot about it from the previous exposure. I'm sure we can find info on that somewhere. I'd suspect with the methods laid out, a week or two in between would be just about right. This can also be done a bit methodically with the first two methods so we can gather some data to see how effective they are. The mailings and door hangars can be done a precinct (or so) at a time. This can help keep the need for manpower down as well and make it more doable for smaller parishes. Elephants (and Donkeys) are eaten one bite at a time. In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 3/12/13 12:00 AM, treasurer at lplouisiana.org wrote: > Hello everyone. I know many of you don't hear from me often and perhaps > that is best. I certainly prefer just handling the money and answering > financial questions. However, I would like to very quickly make a proposal > to everyone for them to think about. I have worked for several political > campaigns, including the Gary Johnson Campaign, and I also currently work > on Public Outreach for a non-profit in Shreveport. I have been researching > and trying to find the best way to really reach out and increase our > number of registered Libertarians, as well as our exposure, while keeping > the process as cost effective as possible. So below is a proposal to > increase registration AND exposure for everyone to look at and think about > based on my experience and research. > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > An organization needs to reach the average person 3 different ways to make > sure they really hear the message of that organization and remember the > name. So, how do we reach our independent, third party, and major party > voters while remaining cost effective? We need to do this on a parish by > parish basis to ensure it is effective and cost effective. Below is our 3 > ways: > > 1. Mass Mailing. We can buy a registered voters list and get the names and > addresses of whatever group we want to target. If we do basic, two sided > post cards, that would be a great idea. It's cost effective for the most > part. > > 2. Door Hangers. Whatever area we hit with mailing, we also need to hit > with door hangers. This is our second way of reaching people. Whatever > approach the mailing takes towards reaching people, the door hangers need > to take a different approach. > > 3. Free Media. This one is up to the PEC. This includes radio, letters to > the editor, etc. > > In order to really pull this off, we would need a strong PEC with people > in that area that are willing to work. I can only think of two Parishes > right now that would be good candidates. Oddly enough, they are on > different sides of the state. St. Tammany and Bossier are the only ones I > know of with the manpower to pull this off. > > If nothing else, lets get started on making designs for door hangers and > post cards. When we have the money and manpower to move forward with > something like this, we have the designs ready to go. > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: chairman.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 283 bytes Desc: not available URL: From chairman at lplouisiana.org Tue Mar 12 13:16:17 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 13:16:17 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Outreach Potential In-Reply-To: <001701ce1f11$3be39a00$b3aace00$@org> References: <001701ce1f11$3be39a00$b3aace00$@org> Message-ID: <513F70F1.2070503@lplouisiana.org> My thoughts exactly. Already made and already geared to the LP. In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 3/12/13 6:03 AM, Membership LPL wrote: > Great ideas. I find these door hangers are effective and I suggest: > > http://www.lp.org/blogs/staff/quiz-across-america-door-hangers-5-per-100 > > > > > --------------------------- > Howard Kearney > Membership > > -----Original Message----- > From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On > Behalf Of treasurer at lplouisiana.org > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 12:01 AM > To: scc at lplouisiana.org > Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Outreach Potential > > Hello everyone. I know many of you don't hear from me often and perhaps > that is best. I certainly prefer just handling the money and answering > financial questions. However, I would like to very quickly make a proposal > to everyone for them to think about. I have worked for several political > campaigns, including the Gary Johnson Campaign, and I also currently work > on Public Outreach for a non-profit in Shreveport. I have been researching > and trying to find the best way to really reach out and increase our > number of registered Libertarians, as well as our exposure, while keeping > the process as cost effective as possible. So below is a proposal to > increase registration AND exposure for everyone to look at and think about > based on my experience and research. > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > An organization needs to reach the average person 3 different ways to make > sure they really hear the message of that organization and remember the > name. So, how do we reach our independent, third party, and major party > voters while remaining cost effective? We need to do this on a parish by > parish basis to ensure it is effective and cost effective. Below is our 3 > ways: > > 1. Mass Mailing. We can buy a registered voters list and get the names and > addresses of whatever group we want to target. If we do basic, two sided > post cards, that would be a great idea. It's cost effective for the most > part. > > 2. Door Hangers. Whatever area we hit with mailing, we also need to hit > with door hangers. This is our second way of reaching people. Whatever > approach the mailing takes towards reaching people, the door hangers need > to take a different approach. > > 3. Free Media. This one is up to the PEC. This includes radio, letters to > the editor, etc. > > In order to really pull this off, we would need a strong PEC with people > in that area that are willing to work. I can only think of two Parishes > right now that would be good candidates. Oddly enough, they are on > different sides of the state. St. Tammany and Bossier are the only ones I > know of with the manpower to pull this off. > > If nothing else, lets get started on making designs for door hangers and > post cards. When we have the money and manpower to move forward with > something like this, we have the designs ready to go. > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: chairman.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 283 bytes Desc: not available URL: From boydw.smith at yahoo.com Tue Mar 12 13:39:52 2013 From: boydw.smith at yahoo.com (Boyd Smith) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 11:39:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Outreach Potential In-Reply-To: <513F70C7.1040508@lplouisiana.org> References: <513F70C7.1040508@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <1363113592.6723.YahooMailNeo@web161905.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> And if there is a candidate a business card or flyer can go with it. ? bws From: Adrien Monteleone To: scc at lplouisiana.org Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Outreach Potential Hell of a plan. I'm for it. I suspect in about 5-7 weeks, we'll have another 6 or so parishes strong enough to do this as well. I'll add that these three steps should occur close together but not right on top of each other. Each step needs a bit of time for people to let the idea gel in their minds. The impact is from the message being reinforced almost when they forgot about it from the previous exposure. I'm sure we can find info on that somewhere.? I'd suspect with the methods laid out, a week or two in between would be just about right. This can also be done a bit methodically with the first two methods so we can gather some data to see how effective they are.? The mailings and door hangars can be done a precinct (or so) at a time.? This can help keep the need for manpower down as well and make it more doable for smaller parishes. Elephants (and Donkeys) are eaten one bite at a time. In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 3/12/13 12:00 AM, treasurer at lplouisiana.org wrote: > Hello everyone. I know many of you don't hear from me often and perhaps > that is best. I certainly prefer just handling the money and answering > financial questions. However, I would like to very quickly make a proposal > to everyone for them to think about. I have worked for several political > campaigns, including the Gary Johnson Campaign, and I also currently work > on Public Outreach for a non-profit in Shreveport. I have been researching > and trying to find the best way to really reach out and increase our > number of registered Libertarians, as well as our exposure, while keeping > the process as cost effective as possible. So below is a proposal to > increase registration AND exposure for everyone to look at and think about > based on my experience and research. > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > An organization needs to reach the average person 3 different ways to make > sure they really hear the message of that organization and remember the > name. So, how do we reach our independent, third party, and major party > voters while remaining cost effective? We need to do this on a parish by > parish basis to ensure it is effective and cost effective. Below is our 3 > ways: > > 1. Mass Mailing. We can buy a registered voters list and get the names and > addresses of whatever group we want to target. If we do basic, two sided > post cards, that would be a great idea. It's cost effective for the most > part. > > 2. Door Hangers. Whatever area we hit with mailing, we also need to hit > with door hangers. This is our second way of reaching people. Whatever > approach the mailing takes towards reaching people, the door hangers need > to take a different approach. > > 3. Free Media. This one is up to the PEC. This includes radio, letters to > the editor, etc. > > In order to really pull this off, we would need a strong PEC with people > in that area that are willing to work. I can only think of two Parishes > right now that would be good candidates. Oddly enough, they are on > different sides of the state. St. Tammany and Bossier are the only ones I > know of with the manpower to pull this off. > > If nothing else, lets get started on making designs for door hangers and > post cards. When we have the money and manpower to move forward with > something like this, we have the designs ready to go. > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From treasurer at lplouisiana.org Tue Mar 19 20:57:19 2013 From: treasurer at lplouisiana.org (treasurer at lplouisiana.org) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 20:57:19 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Resignation Message-ID: <5e4eda4ba613074e8e167d06b7db357a.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> Dear Fellow Libertarian, After serving with the Libertarian Party of Louisiana since April of 2012, I have decided it is time for me to resign. I have made the decision to start my own animal rescue in Shreveport and due to this, I can?t serve on the board of directors of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana any longer. When I was elected to the LPL board, we had only a few members, no income, and no candidates. I spent most of 2012 recruiting congressional candidates, recruiting members, and raising money. When it was all said and done, we had 2 elected Libertarians and 5 congressional candidates. We raised more money in 4 months than the party had raised in the last few years combined. It was a tough year but by the end of 2012, many were talking about the resurgence of Libertarians in Louisiana. Today, the LPL operates on a budget of more than $20,000, has a full board of directors, has grown over 50%, and is already getting inquiries from candidates wanting to run for office in 2014. We have come a very long way in only a year and I am extremely proud to leave the party much stronger and much larger than I found it. I am proud of each and every one of you for everything we have done together. The party is larger than ever and still growing. Although I must leave the board of directors, I hope to still hope to volunteer where possible. I hope to slowly pass along all of my work and lessons learned to one or more successors. I truly wish everyone the best and I can always be reached on my cell phone. I will be resigning after the April meeting to allow for a succession plan to be formed. In Liberty, Reed Ebarb Secretary, Interim Treasurer From membership at lplouisiana.org Tue Mar 19 21:08:10 2013 From: membership at lplouisiana.org (Membership LPL) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 21:08:10 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Resignation In-Reply-To: <5e4eda4ba613074e8e167d06b7db357a.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> References: <5e4eda4ba613074e8e167d06b7db357a.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <001101ce250f$c57a5930$506f0b90$@org> That's understandable but also sad news. --------------------------- Howard Kearney Membership -----Original Message----- From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of treasurer at lplouisiana.org Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 8:57 PM To: scc at LPlouisiana.org Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Resignation Dear Fellow Libertarian, After serving with the Libertarian Party of Louisiana since April of 2012, I have decided it is time for me to resign. I have made the decision to start my own animal rescue in Shreveport and due to this, I can't serve on the board of directors of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana any longer. When I was elected to the LPL board, we had only a few members, no income, and no candidates. I spent most of 2012 recruiting congressional candidates, recruiting members, and raising money. When it was all said and done, we had 2 elected Libertarians and 5 congressional candidates. We raised more money in 4 months than the party had raised in the last few years combined. It was a tough year but by the end of 2012, many were talking about the resurgence of Libertarians in Louisiana. Today, the LPL operates on a budget of more than $20,000, has a full board of directors, has grown over 50%, and is already getting inquiries from candidates wanting to run for office in 2014. We have come a very long way in only a year and I am extremely proud to leave the party much stronger and much larger than I found it. I am proud of each and every one of you for everything we have done together. The party is larger than ever and still growing. Although I must leave the board of directors, I hope to still hope to volunteer where possible. I hope to slowly pass along all of my work and lessons learned to one or more successors. I truly wish everyone the best and I can always be reached on my cell phone. I will be resigning after the April meeting to allow for a succession plan to be formed. In Liberty, Reed Ebarb Secretary, Interim Treasurer _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org From sccrep at sainttammany.lplouisiana.org Tue Mar 19 21:26:17 2013 From: sccrep at sainttammany.lplouisiana.org (Joseph Kahrs) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 21:26:17 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Resignation Message-ID: I've never had the pleasure to meet you, but I appreciate everything you have done for the party and our nation's future. Maybe the timing is lining up well, and maybe some good will come not only for your personal future but also for whomever tries to fill your shoes here in the party. Good luck in all your endeavors, and hope to see you at April's meeting.? Da mihi libertatem, aut da mihi mortem. Sent from my Samsung smartphone on AT&T -------- Original message -------- Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Resignation From: treasurer at lplouisiana.org To: scc at LPlouisiana.org CC: Dear Fellow Libertarian, After serving with the Libertarian Party of Louisiana since April of 2012, I have decided it is time for me to resign. I have made the decision to start my own animal rescue in Shreveport and due to this, I can?t serve on the board of directors of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana any longer. When I was elected to the LPL board, we had only a few members, no income, and no candidates. I spent most of 2012 recruiting congressional candidates, recruiting members, and raising money. When it was all said and done, we had 2 elected Libertarians and 5 congressional candidates. We raised more money in 4 months than the party had raised in the last few years combined. It was a tough year but by the end of 2012, many were talking about the resurgence of Libertarians in Louisiana. Today, the LPL operates on a budget of more than $20,000, has a full board of directors, has grown over 50%, and is already getting inquiries from candidates wanting to run for office in 2014. We have come a very long way in only a year and I am extremely proud to leave the party much stronger and much larger than I found it. I am proud of each and every one of you for everything we have done together. The party is larger than ever and still growing. Although I must leave the board of directors, I hope to still hope to volunteer where possible. I hope to slowly pass along all of my work and lessons learned to one or more successors. I truly wish everyone the best and I can always be reached on my cell phone. I will be resigning after the April meeting to allow for a succession plan to be formed. In Liberty, Reed Ebarb Secretary, Interim Treasurer _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From finance at lplouisiana.org Wed Mar 20 09:38:06 2013 From: finance at lplouisiana.org (Wes Benedict) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 09:38:06 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Resignation In-Reply-To: <5e4eda4ba613074e8e167d06b7db357a.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> References: <5e4eda4ba613074e8e167d06b7db357a.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <5149C9CE.9050800@lplouisiana.org> Sorry to hear about this. The work you did recruiting candidates and raising money for the LP Louisiana in 2012 was probably as valuable as all of the work of the rest of the Louisiana Libertarians combined. Lots of us put in a lot of effort. But, to me, the most important results are the number of candidates, their votes, and any elected Libertarians. I sometimes brag to other states how an 18 year old high school graduate over the summer recruited all of our candidates in Louisiana in 2012. Perhaps I exaggerate a little--but not much. Reed Ebarb served as candidate recruiter, helped candidates raise funds for filing fees, served as secretary, treasurer, fundraising letter writer, implemented an online donation system that actually worked, and email newsletter writer for a while. We've got replacements for some of the functions, but we'll need a good treasurer. It's the most critical job if we are to raise and spend any money. I apologize but I'm not willing to serve as Treasurer. Mr. Ebarb, thanks for all of your hard work. --Wes Benedict treasurer at lplouisiana.org wrote, On 3/19/2013 8:57 PM: > Dear Fellow Libertarian, > After serving with the Libertarian Party of Louisiana since April of > 2012, I have decided it is time for me to resign. I have made the > decision to start my own animal rescue in Shreveport and due to this, I > can?t serve on the board of directors of the Libertarian Party of > Louisiana any longer. > When I was elected to the LPL board, we had only a few members, no > income, and no candidates. I spent most of 2012 recruiting congressional > candidates, recruiting members, and raising money. When it was all said > and done, we had 2 elected Libertarians and 5 congressional candidates. > We raised more money in 4 months than the party had raised in the last > few years combined. It was a tough year but by the end of 2012, many were > talking about the resurgence of Libertarians in Louisiana. > Today, the LPL operates on a budget of more than $20,000, has a full > board of directors, has grown over 50%, and is already getting inquiries > from candidates wanting to run for office in 2014. We have come a very > long way in only a year and I am extremely proud to leave the party much > stronger and much larger than I found it. I am proud of each and every > one of you for everything we have done together. The party is larger than > ever and still growing. > Although I must leave the board of directors, I hope to still hope to > volunteer where possible. I hope to slowly pass along all of my work and > lessons learned to one or more successors. I truly wish everyone the best > and I can always be reached on my cell phone. I will be resigning after > the April meeting to allow for a succession plan to be formed. > In Liberty, > Reed Ebarb > Secretary, Interim Treasurer > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org From Paladin at LPLouisiana.org Wed Mar 20 14:25:16 2013 From: Paladin at LPLouisiana.org (T Lee Horne III) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:25:16 -0400 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Resignation In-Reply-To: <5e4eda4ba613074e8e167d06b7db357a.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> References: <5e4eda4ba613074e8e167d06b7db357a.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <000901ce25a0$ab7cf010$0276d030$@org> The former Shreveport Meetup leader, Benjamin Arnold, would make a good Secretary. I'll nominate him. I inquired of Benjamin and he said he would be honored to serve. He works days so meeting would have to be nights, evenings or days when he is not working. If anyone else has more time and is willing please step up. I do not have a candidate for treasurer. Anyone? T Lee Horne, III Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 tleehorneiii at gmail.com 318-542-4445 google voice tleehorneiii skype http://bit.ly/12zAQMS From chairman at lplouisiana.org Wed Mar 20 15:22:37 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:22:37 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Resignation In-Reply-To: <000901ce25a0$ab7cf010$0276d030$@org> References: <5e4eda4ba613074e8e167d06b7db357a.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> <000901ce25a0$ab7cf010$0276d030$@org> Message-ID: <514A1A8D.5070502@lplouisiana.org> Thank you Lee for the suggestion, However, Mr. Arnold has been a bit "flaky" in the past on his commitments to us, so I'm skittish to support him. Also, the secretary position is not one that meetings are easy to schedule around. We already have a calendar. Our rules require the Secretary to be present in order to have a quorum. If he misses a meeting, no matter how many other people are there - there is no quorum to do business. This is a strict commitment that cannot be bent. Because these meetings involve travel for most people, we can't schedule night meetings. Our window is very tight - the second Saturday of each quarter, between 11am and 5pm. (noon-4pm is most likely in most cases) If he can make EVERY meeting as scheduled, I'll consider voting for him. We need to find someone who can commit to the schedule that is set out. I don't support changing that schedule, or going through the mess and expense it would take to change that rule for one transient office holder. As for Treasurer, I think Joey Kahrs has someone who's interested. In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 3/20/13 2:25 PM, T Lee Horne III wrote: > The former Shreveport Meetup leader, Benjamin Arnold, would make a good > Secretary. I'll nominate him. I inquired of Benjamin and he said he would be > honored to serve. He works days so meeting would have to be nights, evenings > or days when he is not working. > > If anyone else has more time and is willing please step up. > > I do not have a candidate for treasurer. Anyone? > > T Lee Horne, III > Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA > President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 > Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 > Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 > tleehorneiii at gmail.com > 318-542-4445 google voice > tleehorneiii skype > http://bit.ly/12zAQMS > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: chairman.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 283 bytes Desc: not available URL: From elections at lplouisiana.org Wed Mar 20 15:26:34 2013 From: elections at lplouisiana.org (elections at lplouisiana.org) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:26:34 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Resignation In-Reply-To: <000901ce25a0$ab7cf010$0276d030$@org> References: <5e4eda4ba613074e8e167d06b7db357a.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> <000901ce25a0$ab7cf010$0276d030$@org> Message-ID: We may have one. Daniel Hayes has a possible name. I think Sal Giangrosso. He has a history with the LP and has experience in Banking and finance if I recall correctly. bws > The former Shreveport Meetup leader, Benjamin Arnold, would make a good > Secretary. I'll nominate him. I inquired of Benjamin and he said he would > be > honored to serve. He works days so meeting would have to be nights, > evenings > or days when he is not working. > > If anyone else has more time and is willing please step up. > > I do not have a candidate for treasurer. Anyone? > > T Lee Horne, III > Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA > President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 > Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 > Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 > tleehorneiii at gmail.com > 318-542-4445 google voice > tleehorneiii skype > http://bit.ly/12zAQMS > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > From secretary at lplouisiana.org Wed Mar 20 21:04:55 2013 From: secretary at lplouisiana.org (Reed Ebarb) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 21:04:55 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Resignation In-Reply-To: References: <5e4eda4ba613074e8e167d06b7db357a.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> <000901ce25a0$ab7cf010$0276d030$@org> Message-ID: <0e19b935b93a110f1a6a57a8d2e59d71.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> To the Ben Arnold idea, I would vote hell no. I would second everything Adrien and add something. Ben is out for himself. He would be a huge liability and bring little to nothing to the table. > We may have one. Daniel Hayes has a possible name. I think Sal > Giangrosso. He has a history with the LP and has experience in Banking > and finance if I recall correctly. > > bws > >> The former Shreveport Meetup leader, Benjamin Arnold, would make a good >> Secretary. I'll nominate him. I inquired of Benjamin and he said he >> would >> be >> honored to serve. He works days so meeting would have to be nights, >> evenings >> or days when he is not working. >> >> If anyone else has more time and is willing please step up. >> >> I do not have a candidate for treasurer. Anyone? >> >> T Lee Horne, III >> Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA >> President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 >> Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 >> Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign >> 2003-2007 >> tleehorneiii at gmail.com >> 318-542-4445 google voice >> tleehorneiii skype >> http://bit.ly/12zAQMS >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > If you have not already done so, please consider becoming a dues member of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana by visiting louisianalibertarian.net From treasurer at lplouisiana.org Fri Mar 22 18:39:04 2013 From: treasurer at lplouisiana.org (treasurer at lplouisiana.org) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 18:39:04 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Vote for Removal Message-ID: To all State Central Committee members, The second quarter regular meeting of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana State Central Committee will be held at Lakeview Harbor, 911 Harrison Avenue, New Orleans, Louisiana at Noon on Saturday April 13th, 2013. Attendance by all Officers and Parish Representatives is required per the Party By-laws. A working agenda is posted online on the Party website and a final agenda will be issued seven days in advance of the meeting. On this final agenda you will see a section for an executive session where the Committee will consider a disciplinary motion to remove Mr. Scott A. Lewis, III from his office as Vice-Chairman of the Party for the following charges and specifications: Charge 1. Dereliction of Duty of the Office of Vice-chairman Specification 1. Not being present for the convention at which he was elected, and at which he was to serve as an officer, being already duly elected by the previous convention. Specification 2. Not being present for the first State Central Committee meeting, held in Alexandria, Louisiana, such attendance being required of his office by the By-laws, his absence preventing a quorum, causing members and officers to travel at great expense to themselves without purpose. Specification 3. Not being present for a meeting of the Strategic Planning Committee which he chairs, after calling the meeting, and inviting members from other parts of the State to attend, causing them to travel at great expense to themselves, and instead, attempting to chair a physical meeting by telephone in violation of Robert's Rules of Order. Specification 4. Failing to make any attempt to establish Parish Executive Committees for unorganized parishes as required of his office under the By-laws, leaving the work instead to be done at great personal effort and expense to the Executive Director, such work being outside the Director's contract, and causing considerable difficulties in negotiating agreeable payment terms for such contract. Specification 5. In the absence of established Parish Executive Committees, failing to take care that the duties assigned to these committees are carried out in their respective parishes, either by his own actions, or by the appointment of a parish director, organizer, or other member as the By-laws require. Charge 2. Conduct Unbecoming an Officer of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana. Specification 1. Failing to turn in his Affidavit of Acceptance form for filing as a Presidential Elector. Specification 2. Failing to turn in his Affidavit of Acceptance form, corrected version. Specification 3. Failing to communicate why said form was not turned in the first time in a timely manner. Specification 4. Failing to communicate why said form was not turned in at all the second time. Specification 5. Failing to display any concern for his tardiness in turning in these critical forms. Specification 6. Failing to display any interest in securing the forms before the legal deadline. Specification 7. Lack of concern for known deadlines affecting ballot access for the Libertarian Presidential and Vice-Presidential candidates. Specification 8. Causing the chair to go to great personal effort and expense to remedy the officer's failure to file required legal paperwork in a timely manner. Specification 9. Volunteering to be a co-director of a Presidential campaign for Louisiana, and subsequently failing to accomplish any task, attend any function, offer any assistance with any planning or coordination of events, and essentially holding the position in name only. Specification 10. Making false and baseless accusations of racism against a fellow state Central Committee member. Specification 11. Making an announcement for elective office in a public forum without advising the State Central Committee in advance, thereby raising questions among the general membership and the voting public with respect to the Libertarian Party's implied endorsement of his candidacy, and drawing their leadership into question accordingly. Specification 12. Failing to form an exploratory committee in advance of this public announcement, making the announcement without any established campaign committee, platform, or ready biography for prospective voters and media. Specification 13. Failing to provide any such platform or biographical statement upon the request of prospective voters, Officers and other party members. Specification 14. Filing for elective office in 2011 and failing to duly answer media inquiries, creating a poor impression on voters and media of the Libertarian Party, its candidates, and its leadership. Charge 3. Unethical Conduct Specification 1. Attempting to get reimbursed for the notarizing of an Affidavit of Acceptance form in 2008, such cost, incidental to being a candidate for elective office, being only legally payable by the candidate or a candidate's committee, and which cannot be paid by the Party. Specification 2. Attending a 2009 Libertarian State Leadership Alliance conference, in the Chairman's proxy, at Party expense, for the purpose of learning more about the new CiviCRM online database system, but instead, using the opportunity to pitch a dubious fundraising scheme to other state chairs in concert with a personal business partner who made the trip, also at Party expense. Specification 3. Soliciting the LPL to enter into an expensive and poorly worded contract to raise funds for the Party through a 3rd party via the selling of medical information devices, this being the same scheme pitched at the aforementioned conference, and one in which he has personal connections to the 3rd party which would profit from the contract. Specification 4. Attempting to get reimbursed for travel expenses as a condition of fulfilling duties of his office. (traveling to a and from State Central Committee meetings) Specification 5. Seeking reimbursement for travel and lodging to attend the NAACP 2012 convention as a ?liaison? to that organization and representative of the Party. Specification 6. Soliciting the Party and a Congressional candidate to use his personal business services at expense to the Party and the Candidate. Specification 7. Using a Strategic Planning Committee meeting to solicit the party again to use these same services. Specification 8. Using a Strategic Planning Committee meeting to solicit volunteers and support from party activists and officers for his campaign for elective office, rather than using the meeting to plan strategy for the Party. Specification 9. Attempting to involve the Party in an electronic communications scheme which would expose its contact list to his personal business interests. Specification 10. Has on numerous occasions, solicited interest in holding media events, concerts, festivals et cetera, which would not in any way be publicly linked to the Party, but which would be partly or entirely funded by the Party, in exchange for a share of the proceeds of such events, if any. In all of these events, personal friends and himself, were to also profit. Specification 11. Attempting to divert discussion at a State Central Committee meeting concerning online donation logistics towards using his personal contacts or himself as ?bundlers? for Party funds. Specification 12. Attempting to attend a private fundraiser for a Presidential Campaign without making a required donation and while inviting a guest who also would not make a required donation, thus each of them partaking of access to the candidate and party activists and of food and drink provided, without contribution. This notice is given by order of the By-laws of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana, Article 15 ? 2. The session proceedings will be held strictly according to Robert's Rules of Order, Newly Revised, in particular, ?61 Disciplinary Procedures, for the protection of the Party and the fairness of the accused. A committee to be appointed by the Chairman, shall investigate these charges and specifications, and present these charges along with any witnesses or evidence to the Committee for its consideration. A full briefing on the exact flow of the proceedings, and the rights and responsibilities of all involved, shall be issued along with the final agenda. Per ?61 of Robert's Rules of Order, Mr. Lewis' membership privileges (excepting those pertaining to these judicial proceedings), and thus his status as an officer of the Party, are suspended until the conclusion of the trial. Reed Ebarb, Secretary From Paladin at LPLouisiana.org Fri Mar 22 19:18:22 2013 From: Paladin at LPLouisiana.org (T Lee Horne III) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 20:18:22 -0400 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Vote for Removal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000301ce275b$f1f75af0$d5e610d0$@org> >From whom did this come? The from address is Treasure, the signature is Secretary? Is this even a legitimate email or has the system been hacked? T Lee Horne, III Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 tleehorneiii at gmail.com 318-542-4445 google voice tleehorneiii skype http://bit.ly/12zAQMS -----Original Message----- From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of treasurer at lplouisiana.org Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 7:39 PM To: scc at LPlouisiana.org Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Vote for Removal To all State Central Committee members, The second quarter regular meeting of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana State Central Committee will be held at Lakeview Harbor, 911 Harrison Avenue, New Orleans, Louisiana at Noon on Saturday April 13th, 2013. Attendance by all Officers and Parish Representatives is required per the Party By-laws. A working agenda is posted online on the Party website and a final agenda will be issued seven days in advance of the meeting. On this final agenda you will see a section for an executive session where the Committee will consider a disciplinary motion to remove Mr. Scott A. Lewis, III from his office as Vice-Chairman of the Party for the following charges and specifications: Charge 1. Dereliction of Duty of the Office of Vice-chairman Specification 1. Not being present for the convention at which he was elected, and at which he was to serve as an officer, being already duly elected by the previous convention. Specification 2. Not being present for the first State Central Committee meeting, held in Alexandria, Louisiana, such attendance being required of his office by the By-laws, his absence preventing a quorum, causing members and officers to travel at great expense to themselves without purpose. Specification 3. Not being present for a meeting of the Strategic Planning Committee which he chairs, after calling the meeting, and inviting members from other parts of the State to attend, causing them to travel at great expense to themselves, and instead, attempting to chair a physical meeting by telephone in violation of Robert's Rules of Order. Specification 4. Failing to make any attempt to establish Parish Executive Committees for unorganized parishes as required of his office under the By-laws, leaving the work instead to be done at great personal effort and expense to the Executive Director, such work being outside the Director's contract, and causing considerable difficulties in negotiating agreeable payment terms for such contract. Specification 5. In the absence of established Parish Executive Committees, failing to take care that the duties assigned to these committees are carried out in their respective parishes, either by his own actions, or by the appointment of a parish director, organizer, or other member as the By-laws require. Charge 2. Conduct Unbecoming an Officer of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana. Specification 1. Failing to turn in his Affidavit of Acceptance form for filing as a Presidential Elector. Specification 2. Failing to turn in his Affidavit of Acceptance form, corrected version. Specification 3. Failing to communicate why said form was not turned in the first time in a timely manner. Specification 4. Failing to communicate why said form was not turned in at all the second time. Specification 5. Failing to display any concern for his tardiness in turning in these critical forms. Specification 6. Failing to display any interest in securing the forms before the legal deadline. Specification 7. Lack of concern for known deadlines affecting ballot access for the Libertarian Presidential and Vice-Presidential candidates. Specification 8. Causing the chair to go to great personal effort and expense to remedy the officer's failure to file required legal paperwork in a timely manner. Specification 9. Volunteering to be a co-director of a Presidential campaign for Louisiana, and subsequently failing to accomplish any task, attend any function, offer any assistance with any planning or coordination of events, and essentially holding the position in name only. Specification 10. Making false and baseless accusations of racism against a fellow state Central Committee member. Specification 11. Making an announcement for elective office in a public forum without advising the State Central Committee in advance, thereby raising questions among the general membership and the voting public with respect to the Libertarian Party's implied endorsement of his candidacy, and drawing their leadership into question accordingly. Specification 12. Failing to form an exploratory committee in advance of this public announcement, making the announcement without any established campaign committee, platform, or ready biography for prospective voters and media. Specification 13. Failing to provide any such platform or biographical statement upon the request of prospective voters, Officers and other party members. Specification 14. Filing for elective office in 2011 and failing to duly answer media inquiries, creating a poor impression on voters and media of the Libertarian Party, its candidates, and its leadership. Charge 3. Unethical Conduct Specification 1. Attempting to get reimbursed for the notarizing of an Affidavit of Acceptance form in 2008, such cost, incidental to being a candidate for elective office, being only legally payable by the candidate or a candidate's committee, and which cannot be paid by the Party. Specification 2. Attending a 2009 Libertarian State Leadership Alliance conference, in the Chairman's proxy, at Party expense, for the purpose of learning more about the new CiviCRM online database system, but instead, using the opportunity to pitch a dubious fundraising scheme to other state chairs in concert with a personal business partner who made the trip, also at Party expense. Specification 3. Soliciting the LPL to enter into an expensive and poorly worded contract to raise funds for the Party through a 3rd party via the selling of medical information devices, this being the same scheme pitched at the aforementioned conference, and one in which he has personal connections to the 3rd party which would profit from the contract. Specification 4. Attempting to get reimbursed for travel expenses as a condition of fulfilling duties of his office. (traveling to a and from State Central Committee meetings) Specification 5. Seeking reimbursement for travel and lodging to attend the NAACP 2012 convention as a ?liaison? to that organization and representative of the Party. Specification 6. Soliciting the Party and a Congressional candidate to use his personal business services at expense to the Party and the Candidate. Specification 7. Using a Strategic Planning Committee meeting to solicit the party again to use these same services. Specification 8. Using a Strategic Planning Committee meeting to solicit volunteers and support from party activists and officers for his campaign for elective office, rather than using the meeting to plan strategy for the Party. Specification 9. Attempting to involve the Party in an electronic communications scheme which would expose its contact list to his personal business interests. Specification 10. Has on numerous occasions, solicited interest in holding media events, concerts, festivals et cetera, which would not in any way be publicly linked to the Party, but which would be partly or entirely funded by the Party, in exchange for a share of the proceeds of such events, if any. In all of these events, personal friends and himself, were to also profit. Specification 11. Attempting to divert discussion at a State Central Committee meeting concerning online donation logistics towards using his personal contacts or himself as ?bundlers? for Party funds. Specification 12. Attempting to attend a private fundraiser for a Presidential Campaign without making a required donation and while inviting a guest who also would not make a required donation, thus each of them partaking of access to the candidate and party activists and of food and drink provided, without contribution. This notice is given by order of the By-laws of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana, Article 15 ? 2. The session proceedings will be held strictly according to Robert's Rules of Order, Newly Revised, in particular, ?61 Disciplinary Procedures, for the protection of the Party and the fairness of the accused. A committee to be appointed by the Chairman, shall investigate these charges and specifications, and present these charges along with any witnesses or evidence to the Committee for its consideration. A full briefing on the exact flow of the proceedings, and the rights and responsibilities of all involved, shall be issued along with the final agenda. Per ?61 of Robert's Rules of Order, Mr. Lewis' membership privileges (excepting those pertaining to these judicial proceedings), and thus his status as an officer of the Party, are suspended until the conclusion of the trial. Reed Ebarb, Secretary _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org From media at lplouisiana.org Fri Mar 22 19:27:04 2013 From: media at lplouisiana.org (Keith Thompson) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 19:27:04 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Vote for Removal In-Reply-To: <000301ce275b$f1f75af0$d5e610d0$@org> References: <000301ce275b$f1f75af0$d5e610d0$@org> Message-ID: <5e47f895c6c83174d6f6862349648085@lplouisiana.org> Mr. Horne, Aren't our secretary and (interim) treasurer the same person? That would account for the different signatures. It certainly appears to be legitimate. - Keith On 2013-03-22 19:18, T Lee Horne III wrote: > From whom did this come? The from address is Treasure, the signature is > Secretary? Is this even a legitimate email or has the system been hacked? > > T Lee Horne, III > Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA > President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 > Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 > Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 > tleehorneiii at gmail.com > 318-542-4445 google voice > tleehorneiii skype > http://bit.ly/12zAQMS [1] > > -----Original Message----- > From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On > Behalf Of treasurer at lplouisiana.org > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 7:39 PM > To: scc at LPlouisiana.org > Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Vote for Removal > > To all State Central Committee members, > > The second quarter regular meeting of the Libertarian Party of > Louisiana State Central Committee will be held at Lakeview Harbor, 911 > Harrison Avenue, New Orleans, Louisiana at Noon on Saturday April 13th, > 2013. > Attendance by all Officers and Parish Representatives is required per the > Party By-laws. A working agenda is posted online on the Party website and a > final agenda will be issued seven days in advance of the meeting. On this > final agenda you will see a section for an executive session where the > Committee will consider a disciplinary motion to remove Mr. Scott A. > Lewis, III from his office as Vice-Chairman of the Party for the following > charges and specifications: > > Charge 1. Dereliction of Duty of the Office of Vice-chairman > Specification 1. Not being present for the convention at which he > was elected, and at which he was to serve as an officer, being already duly > elected by the previous convention. > Specification 2. Not being present for the first State Central > Committee meeting, held in Alexandria, Louisiana, such attendance being > required of his office by the By-laws, his absence preventing a quorum, > causing members and officers to travel at great expense to themselves > without purpose. > Specification 3. Not being present for a meeting of the Strategic > Planning Committee which he chairs, after calling the meeting, and inviting > members from other parts of the State to attend, causing them to travel at > great expense to themselves, and instead, attempting to chair a physical > meeting by telephone in violation of Robert's Rules of Order. > Specification 4. Failing to make any attempt to establish Parish > Executive Committees for unorganized parishes as required of his office > under the By-laws, leaving the work instead to be done at great personal > effort and expense to the Executive Director, such work being outside the > Director's contract, and causing considerable difficulties in negotiating > agreeable payment terms for such contract. > Specification 5. In the absence of established Parish Executive > Committees, failing to take care that the duties assigned to these > committees are carried out in their respective parishes, either by his own > actions, or by the appointment of a parish director, organizer, or other > member as the By-laws require. > > Charge 2. Conduct Unbecoming an Officer of the Libertarian Party of > Louisiana. > Specification 1. Failing to turn in his Affidavit of Acceptance form > for filing as a Presidential Elector. > Specification 2. Failing to turn in his Affidavit of Acceptance > form, corrected version. > Specification 3. Failing to communicate why said form was not turned > in the first time in a timely manner. > Specification 4. Failing to communicate why said form was not turned > in at all the second time. > Specification 5. Failing to display any concern for his tardiness in > turning in these critical forms. > Specification 6. Failing to display any interest in securing the > forms before the legal deadline. > Specification 7. Lack of concern for known deadlines affecting > ballot access for the Libertarian Presidential and Vice-Presidential > candidates. > Specification 8. Causing the chair to go to great personal effort > and expense to remedy the officer's failure to file required legal paperwork > in a timely manner. > Specification 9. Volunteering to be a co-director of a Presidential > campaign for Louisiana, and subsequently failing to accomplish any task, > attend any function, offer any assistance with any planning or coordination > of events, and essentially holding the position in name only. > Specification 10. Making false and baseless accusations of racism > against a fellow state Central Committee member. > Specification 11. Making an announcement for elective office in a > public forum without advising the State Central Committee in advance, > thereby raising questions among the general membership and the voting public > with respect to the Libertarian Party's implied endorsement of his > candidacy, and drawing their leadership into question accordingly. > Specification 12. Failing to form an exploratory committee in > advance of this public announcement, making the announcement without any > established campaign committee, platform, or ready biography for prospective > voters and media. > Specification 13. Failing to provide any such platform or > biographical statement upon the request of prospective voters, Officers and > other party members. > Specification 14. Filing for elective office in 2011 and failing to > duly answer media inquiries, creating a poor impression on voters and media > of the Libertarian Party, its candidates, and its leadership. > > Charge 3. Unethical Conduct > Specification 1. Attempting to get reimbursed for the notarizing of > an Affidavit of Acceptance form in 2008, such cost, incidental to being a > candidate for elective office, being only legally payable by the candidate > or a candidate's committee, and which cannot be paid by the Party. > Specification 2. Attending a 2009 Libertarian State Leadership > Alliance conference, in the Chairman's proxy, at Party expense, for the > purpose of learning more about the new CiviCRM online database system, but > instead, using the opportunity to pitch a dubious fundraising scheme to > other state chairs in concert with a personal business partner who made the > trip, also at Party expense. > Specification 3. Soliciting the LPL to enter into an expensive and > poorly worded contract to raise funds for the Party through a 3rd party via > the selling of medical information devices, this being the same scheme > pitched at the aforementioned conference, and one in which he has personal > connections to the 3rd party which would profit from the contract. > Specification 4. Attempting to get reimbursed for travel expenses as > a condition of fulfilling duties of his office. (traveling to a and from > State Central Committee meetings) > Specification 5. Seeking reimbursement for travel and lodging to > attend the NAACP 2012 convention as a "liaison" to that organization and > representative of the Party. > Specification 6. Soliciting the Party and a Congressional candidate > to use his personal business services at expense to the Party and the > Candidate. > Specification 7. Using a Strategic Planning Committee meeting to > solicit the party again to use these same services. > Specification 8. Using a Strategic Planning Committee meeting to > solicit volunteers and support from party activists and officers for his > campaign for elective office, rather than using the meeting to plan strategy > for the Party. > Specification 9. Attempting to involve the Party in an electronic > communications scheme which would expose its contact list to his personal > business interests. > Specification 10. Has on numerous occasions, solicited interest in > holding media events, concerts, festivals et cetera, which would not in any > way be publicly linked to the Party, but which would be partly or entirely > funded by the Party, in exchange for a share of the proceeds of such events, > if any. In all of these events, personal friends and himself, were to also > profit. > Specification 11. Attempting to divert discussion at a State Central > Committee meeting concerning online donation logistics towards using his > personal contacts or himself as "bundlers" for Party funds. > Specification 12. Attempting to attend a private fundraiser for a > Presidential Campaign without making a required donation and while inviting > a guest who also would not make a required donation, thus each of them > partaking of access to the candidate and party activists and of food and > drink provided, without contribution. > > This notice is given by order of the By-laws of the Libertarian > Party of Louisiana, Article 15 ? 2. > > The session proceedings will be held strictly according to Robert's > Rules of Order, Newly Revised, in particular, ?61 Disciplinary Procedures, > for the protection of the Party and the fairness of the accused. > > A committee to be appointed by the Chairman, shall investigate these > charges and specifications, and present these charges along with any > witnesses or evidence to the Committee for its consideration. > > A full briefing on the exact flow of the proceedings, and the rights > and responsibilities of all involved, shall be issued along with the final > agenda. > > Per ?61 of Robert's Rules of Order, Mr. Lewis' membership privileges > (excepting those pertaining to these judicial proceedings), and thus his > status as an officer of the Party, are suspended until the conclusion of the > trial. > > Reed Ebarb, Secretary > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [2] > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [2] -- KEITH THOMPSON _Communications Officer_ Libertarian Party of Louisiana media at lplouisiana.org LPLouisiana.org [3] Links: ------ [1] http://bit.ly/12zAQMS [2] http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [3] http://www.lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Paladin at LPLouisiana.org Fri Mar 22 19:36:23 2013 From: Paladin at LPLouisiana.org (T Lee Horne III) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 20:36:23 -0400 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Vote for Removal In-Reply-To: <5e47f895c6c83174d6f6862349648085@lplouisiana.org> References: <000301ce275b$f1f75af0$d5e610d0$@org> <5e47f895c6c83174d6f6862349648085@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <001601ce275e$72ad6b60$58084220$@org> Keith, if this is to be done, all must be in order. The current document appears on the face to be fraudulent. The return address is treasure but the signature is secretary. The office of the treasurer is not the same as the office of secretary. T Lee Horne, III Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 tleehorneiii at gmail.com 318-542-4445 google voice tleehorneiii skype http://bit.ly/12zAQMS From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of Keith Thompson Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 8:27 PM To: scc at lplouisiana.org Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Vote for Removal Mr. Horne, Aren't our secretary and (interim) treasurer the same person? That would account for the different signatures. It certainly appears to be legitimate. - Keith On 2013-03-22 19:18, T Lee Horne III wrote: >From whom did this come? The from address is Treasure, the signature is Secretary? Is this even a legitimate email or has the system been hacked? T Lee Horne, III Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 tleehorneiii at gmail.com 318-542-4445 google voice tleehorneiii skype http://bit.ly/12zAQMS -----Original Message----- From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of treasurer at lplouisiana.org Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 7:39 PM To: scc at LPlouisiana.org Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Vote for Removal To all State Central Committee members, The second quarter regular meeting of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana State Central Committee will be held at Lakeview Harbor, 911 Harrison Avenue, New Orleans, Louisiana at Noon on Saturday April 13th, 2013. Attendance by all Officers and Parish Representatives is required per the Party By-laws. A working agenda is posted online on the Party website and a final agenda will be issued seven days in advance of the meeting. On this final agenda you will see a section for an executive session where the Committee will consider a disciplinary motion to remove Mr. Scott A. Lewis, III from his office as Vice-Chairman of the Party for the following charges and specifications: Charge 1. Dereliction of Duty of the Office of Vice-chairman Specification 1. Not being present for the convention at which he was elected, and at which he was to serve as an officer, being already duly elected by the previous convention. Specification 2. Not being present for the first State Central Committee meeting, held in Alexandria, Louisiana, such attendance being required of his office by the By-laws, his absence preventing a quorum, causing members and officers to travel at great expense to themselves without purpose. Specification 3. Not being present for a meeting of the Strategic Planning Committee which he chairs, after calling the meeting, and inviting members from other parts of the State to attend, causing them to travel at great expense to themselves, and instead, attempting to chair a physical meeting by telephone in violation of Robert's Rules of Order. Specification 4. Failing to make any attempt to establish Parish Executive Committees for unorganized parishes as required of his office under the By-laws, leaving the work instead to be done at great personal effort and expense to the Executive Director, such work being outside the Director's contract, and causing considerable difficulties in negotiating agreeable payment terms for such contract. Specification 5. In the absence of established Parish Executive Committees, failing to take care that the duties assigned to these committees are carried out in their respective parishes, either by his own actions, or by the appointment of a parish director, organizer, or other member as the By-laws require. Charge 2. Conduct Unbecoming an Officer of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana. Specification 1. Failing to turn in his Affidavit of Acceptance form for filing as a Presidential Elector. Specification 2. Failing to turn in his Affidavit of Acceptance form, corrected version. Specification 3. Failing to communicate why said form was not turned in the first time in a timely manner. Specification 4. Failing to communicate why said form was not turned in at all the second time. Specification 5. Failing to display any concern for his tardiness in turning in these critical forms. Specification 6. Failing to display any interest in securing the forms before the legal deadline. Specification 7. Lack of concern for known deadlines affecting ballot access for the Libertarian Presidential and Vice-Presidential candidates. Specification 8. Causing the chair to go to great personal effort and expense to remedy the officer's failure to file required legal paperwork in a timely manner. Specification 9. Volunteering to be a co-director of a Presidential campaign for Louisiana, and subsequently failing to accomplish any task, attend any function, offer any assistance with any planning or coordination of events, and essentially holding the position in name only. Specification 10. Making false and baseless accusations of racism against a fellow state Central Committee member. Specification 11. Making an announcement for elective office in a public forum without advising the State Central Committee in advance, thereby raising questions among the general membership and the voting public with respect to the Libertarian Party's implied endorsement of his candidacy, and drawing their leadership into question accordingly. Specification 12. Failing to form an exploratory committee in advance of this public announcement, making the announcement without any established campaign committee, platform, or ready biography for prospective voters and media. Specification 13. Failing to provide any such platform or biographical statement upon the request of prospective voters, Officers and other party members. Specification 14. Filing for elective office in 2011 and failing to duly answer media inquiries, creating a poor impression on voters and media of the Libertarian Party, its candidates, and its leadership. Charge 3. Unethical Conduct Specification 1. Attempting to get reimbursed for the notarizing of an Affidavit of Acceptance form in 2008, such cost, incidental to being a candidate for elective office, being only legally payable by the candidate or a candidate's committee, and which cannot be paid by the Party. Specification 2. Attending a 2009 Libertarian State Leadership Alliance conference, in the Chairman's proxy, at Party expense, for the purpose of learning more about the new CiviCRM online database system, but instead, using the opportunity to pitch a dubious fundraising scheme to other state chairs in concert with a personal business partner who made the trip, also at Party expense. Specification 3. Soliciting the LPL to enter into an expensive and poorly worded contract to raise funds for the Party through a 3rd party via the selling of medical information devices, this being the same scheme pitched at the aforementioned conference, and one in which he has personal connections to the 3rd party which would profit from the contract. Specification 4. Attempting to get reimbursed for travel expenses as a condition of fulfilling duties of his office. (traveling to a and from State Central Committee meetings) Specification 5. Seeking reimbursement for travel and lodging to attend the NAACP 2012 convention as a ?liaison? to that organization and representative of the Party. Specification 6. Soliciting the Party and a Congressional candidate to use his personal business services at expense to the Party and the Candidate. Specification 7. Using a Strategic Planning Committee meeting to solicit the party again to use these same services. Specification 8. Using a Strategic Planning Committee meeting to solicit volunteers and support from party activists and officers for his campaign for elective office, rather than using the meeting to plan strategy for the Party. Specification 9. Attempting to involve the Party in an electronic communications scheme which would expose its contact list to his personal business interests. Specification 10. Has on numerous occasions, solicited interest in holding media events, concerts, festivals et cetera, which would not in any way be publicly linked to the Party, but which would be partly or entirely funded by the Party, in exchange for a share of the proceeds of such events, if any. In all of these events, personal friends and himself, were to also profit. Specification 11. Attempting to divert discussion at a State Central Committee meeting concerning online donation logistics towards using his personal contacts or himself as ?bundlers? for Party funds. Specification 12. Attempting to attend a private fundraiser for a Presidential Campaign without making a required donation and while inviting a guest who also would not make a required donation, thus each of them partaking of access to the candidate and party activists and of food and drink provided, without contribution. This notice is given by order of the By-laws of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana, Article 15 ? 2. The session proceedings will be held strictly according to Robert's Rules of Order, Newly Revised, in particular, ?61 Disciplinary Procedures, for the protection of the Party and the fairness of the accused. A committee to be appointed by the Chairman, shall investigate these charges and specifications, and present these charges along with any witnesses or evidence to the Committee for its consideration. A full briefing on the exact flow of the proceedings, and the rights and responsibilities of all involved, shall be issued along with the final agenda. Per ?61 of Robert's Rules of Order, Mr. Lewis' membership privileges (excepting those pertaining to these judicial proceedings), and thus his status as an officer of the Party, are suspended until the conclusion of the trial. Reed Ebarb, Secretary _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -- LPL Logo Keith Thompson Communications Officer Libertarian Party of Louisiana media at lplouisiana.org LPLouisiana.org This message has been processed by Firetrust Benign. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From treasurer at lplouisiana.org Fri Mar 22 20:46:26 2013 From: treasurer at lplouisiana.org (treasurer at lplouisiana.org) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 20:46:26 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Vote for Removal In-Reply-To: <001601ce275e$72ad6b60$58084220$@org> References: <000301ce275b$f1f75af0$d5e610d0$@org> <5e47f895c6c83174d6f6862349648085@lplouisiana.org> <001601ce275e$72ad6b60$58084220$@org> Message-ID: I certainly am sorry for the confusion. I manage 5 email addresses, 2 for the LPL, 1 personally, and 2 for work. I will resend from my Secretary email immediatly. > Keith, if this is to be done, all must be in order. The current document > appears on the face to be fraudulent. The return address is treasure but > the signature is secretary. The office of the treasurer is not the same as > the office of secretary. > > > > T Lee Horne, III > > Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA > > President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 > > Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 > > Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 > > tleehorneiii at gmail.com > > 318-542-4445 google voice > > tleehorneiii skype > > http://bit.ly/12zAQMS > > > > From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On > Behalf Of Keith Thompson > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 8:27 PM > To: scc at lplouisiana.org > Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Vote for Removal > > > > Mr. Horne, > > Aren't our secretary and (interim) treasurer the same person? That would > account for the different signatures. > > > It certainly appears to be legitimate. > > > > - Keith > > > > On 2013-03-22 19:18, T Lee Horne III wrote: > > From whom did this come? The from address is Treasure, the signature is > Secretary? Is this even a legitimate email or has the system been hacked? > T Lee Horne, III Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA > President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 Former Chairman of > Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 Former Candidate for Governor of > Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 tleehorneiii at gmail.com > 318-542-4445 google voice tleehorneiii skype http://bit.ly/12zAQMS > -----Original Message----- From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org > [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of > treasurer at lplouisiana.org Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 7:39 PM To: > scc at LPlouisiana.org Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Vote for Removal > To all State Central Committee members, The second quarter regular > meeting of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana State Central Committee > will be held at Lakeview Harbor, 911 Harrison Avenue, New Orleans, > Louisiana at Noon on Saturday April 13th, 2013. Attendance by all > Officers and Parish Representatives is required per the Party By-laws. A > working agenda is posted online on the Party website and a final agenda > will be issued seven days in advance of the meeting. On this final > agenda you will see a section for an executive session where the > Committee will consider a disciplinary motion to remove Mr. Scott A. > Lewis, III from his office as Vice-Chairman of the Party for the following > charges and specifications: Charge 1. Dereliction of Duty of the > Office of Vice-chairman Specification 1. Not being present for > the convention at which he was elected, and at which he was to serve as > an officer, being already duly elected by the previous convention. > Specification 2. Not being present for the first State Central Committee > meeting, held in Alexandria, Louisiana, such attendance being required of > his office by the By-laws, his absence preventing a quorum, causing > members and officers to travel at great expense to themselves without > purpose. Specification 3. Not being present for a meeting of the > Strategic Planning Committee which he chairs, after calling the meeting, > and inviting members from other parts of the State to attend, causing > them to travel at great expense to themselves, and instead, attempting to > chair a physical meeting by telephone in violation of Robert's Rules of > Order. Specification 4. Failing to make any attempt to establish > Parish Executive Committees for unorganized parishes as required of his > office under the By-laws, leaving the work instead to be done at great > personal effort and expense to the Executive Director, such work being > outside the Director's contract, and causing considerable difficulties in > negotiating agreeable payment terms for such contract. > Specification 5. In the absence of established Parish Executive > Committees, failing to take care that the duties assigned to these > committees are carried out in their respective parishes, either by his own > actions, or by the appointment of a parish director, organizer, or other > member as the By-laws require. Charge 2. Conduct Unbecoming an > Officer of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana. Specification 1. > Failing to turn in his Affidavit of Acceptance form for filing as a > Presidential Elector. Specification 2. Failing to turn in his Affidavit > of Acceptance form, corrected version. Specification 3. Failing to > communicate why said form was not turned in the first time in a timely > manner. Specification 4. Failing to communicate why said form was > not turned in at all the second time. Specification 5. Failing to > display any concern for his tardiness in turning in these critical forms. > Specification 6. Failing to display any interest in securing the > forms before the legal deadline. Specification 7. Lack of concern > for known deadlines affecting ballot access for the Libertarian > Presidential and Vice-Presidential candidates. Specification 8. > Causing the chair to go to great personal effort and expense to remedy > the officer's failure to file required legal paperwork in a timely > manner. Specification 9. Volunteering to be a co-director of a > Presidential campaign for Louisiana, and subsequently failing to > accomplish any task, attend any function, offer any assistance with any > planning or coordination of events, and essentially holding the position > in name only. Specification 10. Making false and baseless accusations of > racism against a fellow state Central Committee member. > Specification 11. Making an announcement for elective office in a public > forum without advising the State Central Committee in advance, thereby > raising questions among the general membership and the voting public with > respect to the Libertarian Party's implied endorsement of his candidacy, > and drawing their leadership into question accordingly. > Specification 12. Failing to form an exploratory committee in advance of > this public announcement, making the announcement without any established > campaign committee, platform, or ready biography for prospective voters > and media. Specification 13. Failing to provide any such platform or > biographical statement upon the request of prospective voters, Officers > and other party members. Specification 14. Filing for elective > office in 2011 and failing to duly answer media inquiries, creating a > poor impression on voters and media of the Libertarian Party, its > candidates, and its leadership. Charge 3. Unethical Conduct > Specification 1. Attempting to get reimbursed for the notarizing of an > Affidavit of Acceptance form in 2008, such cost, incidental to being a > candidate for elective office, being only legally payable by the candidate > or a candidate's committee, and which cannot be paid by the Party. > Specification 2. Attending a 2009 Libertarian State Leadership Alliance > conference, in the Chairman's proxy, at Party expense, for the purpose of > learning more about the new CiviCRM online database system, but instead, > using the opportunity to pitch a dubious fundraising scheme to other > state chairs in concert with a personal business partner who made the > trip, also at Party expense. Specification 3. Soliciting the LPL to > enter into an expensive and poorly worded contract to raise funds for the > Party through a 3rd party via the selling of medical information devices, > this being the same scheme pitched at the aforementioned conference, and > one in which he has personal connections to the 3rd party which would > profit from the contract. Specification 4. Attempting to get > reimbursed for travel expenses as a condition of fulfilling duties of his > office. (traveling to a and from State Central Committee meetings) > Specification 5. Seeking reimbursement for travel and lodging to attend > the NAACP 2012 convention as a ???liaison??? to that organization and > representative of the Party. Specification 6. Soliciting the Party and a > Congressional candidate to use his personal business services at expense > to the Party and the Candidate. Specification 7. Using a Strategic > Planning Committee meeting to solicit the party again to use these same > services. Specification 8. Using a Strategic Planning Committee > meeting to solicit volunteers and support from party activists and > officers for his campaign for elective office, rather than using the > meeting to plan strategy for the Party. Specification 9. > Attempting to involve the Party in an electronic communications scheme > which would expose its contact list to his personal business interests. > Specification 10. Has on numerous occasions, solicited interest in > holding media events, concerts, festivals et cetera, which would not in > any way be publicly linked to the Party, but which would be partly or > entirely funded by the Party, in exchange for a share of the proceeds of > such events, if any. In all of these events, personal friends and > himself, were to also profit. Specification 11. Attempting to divert > discussion at a State Central Committee meeting concerning online > donation logistics towards using his personal contacts or himself as > ???bundlers??? for Party funds. Specification 12. Attempting to > attend a private fundraiser for a Presidential Campaign without making a > required donation and while inviting a guest who also would not make a > required donation, thus each of them partaking of access to the candidate > and party activists and of food and drink provided, without contribution. > This notice is given by order of the By-laws of the Libertarian > Party of Louisiana, Article 15 ?? 2. The session proceedings will > be held strictly according to Robert's Rules of Order, Newly Revised, in > particular, ??61 Disciplinary Procedures, for the protection of the Party > and the fairness of the accused. A committee to be appointed by the > Chairman, shall investigate these charges and specifications, and present > these charges along with any witnesses or evidence to the Committee for > its consideration. A full briefing on the exact flow of the > proceedings, and the rights and responsibilities of all involved, shall > be issued along with the final agenda. Per ??61 of Robert's Rules > of Order, Mr. Lewis' membership privileges (excepting those pertaining to > these judicial proceedings), and thus his status as an officer of the > Party, are suspended until the conclusion of the trial. Reed > Ebarb, Secretary _______________________________________________ SCC > mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > -- > > > LPL Logo > > Keith Thompson > Communications Officer > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > media at lplouisiana.org > LPLouisiana.org > > This message has been processed by > Firetrust Benign. > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > From secretary at lplouisiana.org Fri Mar 22 20:48:04 2013 From: secretary at lplouisiana.org (Reed Ebarb) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 20:48:04 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Vote For Removal Message-ID: <3ff88a5a21130412c255b17889fb0b47.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> To all State Central Committee members, The second quarter regular meeting of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana State Central Committee will be held at Lakeview Harbor, 911 Harrison Avenue, New Orleans, Louisiana at Noon on Saturday April 13th, 2013. Attendance by all Officers and Parish Representatives is required per the Party By-laws. A working agenda is posted online on the Party website and a final agenda will be issued seven days in advance of the meeting. On this final agenda you will see a section for an executive session where the Committee will consider a disciplinary motion to remove Mr. Scott A. Lewis, III from his office as Vice-Chairman of the Party for the following charges and specifications: Charge 1. Dereliction of Duty of the Office of Vice-chairman Specification 1. Not being present for the convention at which he was elected, and at which he was to serve as an officer, being already duly elected by the previous convention. Specification 2. Not being present for the first State Central Committee meeting, held in Alexandria, Louisiana, such attendance being required of his office by the By-laws, his absence preventing a quorum, causing members and officers to travel at great expense to themselves without purpose. Specification 3. Not being present for a meeting of the Strategic Planning Committee which he chairs, after calling the meeting, and inviting members from other parts of the State to attend, causing them to travel at great expense to themselves, and instead, attempting to chair a physical meeting by telephone in violation of Robert's Rules of Order. Specification 4. Failing to make any attempt to establish Parish Executive Committees for unorganized parishes as required of his office under the By-laws, leaving the work instead to be done at great personal effort and expense to the Executive Director, such work being outside the Director's contract, and causing considerable difficulties in negotiating agreeable payment terms for such contract. Specification 5. In the absence of established Parish Executive Committees, failing to take care that the duties assigned to these committees are carried out in their respective parishes, either by his own actions, or by the appointment of a parish director, organizer, or other member as the By-laws require. Charge 2. Conduct Unbecoming an Officer of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana. Specification 1. Failing to turn in his Affidavit of Acceptance form for filing as a Presidential Elector. Specification 2. Failing to turn in his Affidavit of Acceptance form, corrected version. Specification 3. Failing to communicate why said form was not turned in the first time in a timely manner. Specification 4. Failing to communicate why said form was not turned in at all the second time. Specification 5. Failing to display any concern for his tardiness in turning in these critical forms. Specification 6. Failing to display any interest in securing the forms before the legal deadline. Specification 7. Lack of concern for known deadlines affecting ballot access for the Libertarian Presidential and Vice-Presidential candidates. Specification 8. Causing the chair to go to great personal effort and expense to remedy the officer's failure to file required legal paperwork in a timely manner. Specification 9. Volunteering to be a co-director of a Presidential campaign for Louisiana, and subsequently failing to accomplish any task, attend any function, offer any assistance with any planning or coordination of events, and essentially holding the position in name only. Specification 10. Making false and baseless accusations of racism against a fellow state Central Committee member. Specification 11. Making an announcement for elective office in a public forum without advising the State Central Committee in advance, thereby raising questions among the general membership and the voting public with respect to the Libertarian Party's implied endorsement of his candidacy, and drawing their leadership into question accordingly. Specification 12. Failing to form an exploratory committee in advance of this public announcement, making the announcement without any established campaign committee, platform, or ready biography for prospective voters and media. Specification 13. Failing to provide any such platform or biographical statement upon the request of prospective voters, Officers and other party members. Specification 14. Filing for elective office in 2011 and failing to duly answer media inquiries, creating a poor impression on voters and media of the Libertarian Party, its candidates, and its leadership. Charge 3. Unethical Conduct Specification 1. Attempting to get reimbursed for the notarizing of an Affidavit of Acceptance form in 2008, such cost, incidental to being a candidate for elective office, being only legally payable by the candidate or a candidate's committee, and which cannot be paid by the Party. Specification 2. Attending a 2009 Libertarian State Leadership Alliance conference, in the Chairman's proxy, at Party expense, for the purpose of learning more about the new CiviCRM online database system, but instead, using the opportunity to pitch a dubious fundraising scheme to other state chairs in concert with a personal business partner who made the trip, also at Party expense. Specification 3. Soliciting the LPL to enter into an expensive and poorly worded contract to raise funds for the Party through a 3rd party via the selling of medical information devices, this being the same scheme pitched at the aforementioned conference, and one in which he has personal connections to the 3rd party which would profit from the contract. Specification 4. Attempting to get reimbursed for travel expenses as a condition of fulfilling duties of his office. (traveling to a and from State Central Committee meetings) Specification 5. Seeking reimbursement for travel and lodging to attend the NAACP 2012 convention as a ?liaison? to that organization and representative of the Party. Specification 6. Soliciting the Party and a Congressional candidate to use his personal business services at expense to the Party and the Candidate. Specification 7. Using a Strategic Planning Committee meeting to solicit the party again to use these same services. Specification 8. Using a Strategic Planning Committee meeting to solicit volunteers and support from party activists and officers for his campaign for elective office, rather than using the meeting to plan strategy for the Party. Specification 9. Attempting to involve the Party in an electronic communications scheme which would expose its contact list to his personal business interests. Specification 10. Has on numerous occasions, solicited interest in holding media events, concerts, festivals et cetera, which would not in any way be publicly linked to the Party, but which would be partly or entirely funded by the Party, in exchange for a share of the proceeds of such events, if any. In all of these events, personal friends and himself, were to also profit. Specification 11. Attempting to divert discussion at a State Central Committee meeting concerning online donation logistics towards using his personal contacts or himself as ?bundlers? for Party funds. Specification 12. Attempting to attend a private fundraiser for a Presidential Campaign without making a required donation and while inviting a guest who also would not make a required donation, thus each of them partaking of access to the candidate and party activists and of food and drink provided, without contribution. This notice is given by order of the By-laws of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana, Article 15 ? 2. The session proceedings will be held strictly according to Robert's Rules of Order, Newly Revised, in particular, ?61 Disciplinary Procedures, for the protection of the Party and the fairness of the accused. A committee to be appointed by the Chairman, shall investigate these charges and specifications, and present these charges along with any witnesses or evidence to the Committee for its consideration. A full briefing on the exact flow of the proceedings, and the rights and responsibilities of all involved, shall be issued along with the final agenda. Per ?61 of Robert's Rules of Order, Mr. Lewis' membership privileges (excepting those pertaining to these judicial proceedings), and thus his status as an officer of the Party, are suspended until the conclusion of the trial. Reed Ebarb, Secretary From chairman at lplouisiana.org Sat Mar 23 13:56:56 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 13:56:56 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Investigative Committee Message-ID: <514DFAF8.3050106@lplouisiana.org> To all Board Members, I have appointed an investigative committee to ascertain the validity of the charges leveled against Mr. Lewis. This committee consists of: Wes Benedict - Finance Officer Howard Kearney - Membership Officer Boyd Smith - Elections Officer I have sent them preliminary instructions and more will be forthcoming. The committee will conduct its investigation with the utmost discretion. They are tasked with gathering evidence, interviewing witnesses, and drafting a resolution for the Board to consider at it's judicial session. They may choose to proffer the charges and specifications as listed, or they may return less, or others, or find that no charges are warranted at all. Although the initial meeting call refers to removal, it is entirely within the discretion of this committee to recommend appropriate disciplinary measures for the charges they ultimately bring. Of course this committee's resolution and suggested measure(s) will be debateable and amendable by the Board. I stress to all Board members that this entire matter is private to this board. To protect the rights of the accused, and the Party, this issue, these charges, and the specifications are NOT to be discussed in any manner with anyone who is not a Board member. To do so would be a serious breach of privacy for the accused and may constitute libel, which would open up this Party and any involved members in such behavior to legal action. If anyone has any information related to these charges, please submit such to the investigative committee. If the committee requests an interview with you concerning these matters, please comply with their requests for any information or knowledge you may have. At all times, it is within your rights not to be identified or named as a source of information if you so choose. -- -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: chairman.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 308 bytes Desc: not available URL: From finance at lplouisiana.org Sun Mar 24 16:52:02 2013 From: finance at lplouisiana.org (Wes Benedict) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 16:52:02 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Vote For Removal In-Reply-To: <3ff88a5a21130412c255b17889fb0b47.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> References: <3ff88a5a21130412c255b17889fb0b47.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <514F7582.9010601@lplouisiana.org> I am concerned about this particular statement which I've copied below. It appears the Secretary claims the Vice-Chairman has already been suspended from office. I would like clarification. Who suspended our Vice-Chairman, and by what authority? I do not have a copy of Robert's Rules of Order. If something in Robert's Rules appears to give that authority, I would like to have those details presented (not charges or evidence, but a quotation of the text from Robert's Rules). I am not convinced our Vice-Chairman has already been suspended. > Per ?61 of Robert's Rules of Order, Mr. Lewis' membership privileges > (excepting those pertaining to these judicial proceedings), and thus his > status as an officer of the Party, are suspended until the conclusion of the > trial. If something in Robert's Rules appears to give that authority, and that is based on Article 15: Section 1 "Disciplinary Action against any Party members . . . " I will next want to get confirmation that Article 15 Section 2 "Officers and other . . ." doesn't supersede actions authorized by Article 15 Section 1. Our bylaws provide a procedure for removal of an officer from office. I'm concerned about the immediate suspension prior to a consideration of removal from office. Thanks, --Wes Benedict Reed Ebarb wrote, On 3/22/2013 8:48 PM: > To all State Central Committee members, > > The second quarter regular meeting of the Libertarian Party of > Louisiana State Central Committee will be held at Lakeview Harbor, 911 > Harrison Avenue, New Orleans, Louisiana at Noon on Saturday April 13th, > 2013. > Attendance by all Officers and Parish Representatives is required per the > Party By-laws. A working agenda is posted online on the Party website and a > final agenda will be issued seven days in advance of the meeting. On this > final agenda you will see a section for an executive session where the > Committee will consider a disciplinary motion to remove Mr. Scott A. > Lewis, III from his office as Vice-Chairman of the Party for the following > charges and specifications: > > Charge 1. Dereliction of Duty of the Office of Vice-chairman > Specification 1. Not being present for the convention at which he > was elected, and at which he was to serve as an officer, being already duly > elected by the previous convention. > Specification 2. Not being present for the first State Central > Committee meeting, held in Alexandria, Louisiana, such attendance being > required of his office by the By-laws, his absence preventing a quorum, > causing members and officers to travel at great expense to themselves > without purpose. > Specification 3. Not being present for a meeting of the Strategic > Planning Committee which he chairs, after calling the meeting, and inviting > members from other parts of the State to attend, causing them to travel at > great expense to themselves, and instead, attempting to chair a physical > meeting by telephone in violation of Robert's Rules of Order. > Specification 4. Failing to make any attempt to establish Parish > Executive Committees for unorganized parishes as required of his office > under the By-laws, leaving the work instead to be done at great personal > effort and expense to the Executive Director, such work being outside the > Director's contract, and causing considerable difficulties in negotiating > agreeable payment terms for such contract. > Specification 5. In the absence of established Parish Executive > Committees, failing to take care that the duties assigned to these > committees are carried out in their respective parishes, either by his own > actions, or by the appointment of a parish director, organizer, or other > member as the By-laws require. > > Charge 2. Conduct Unbecoming an Officer of the Libertarian Party of > Louisiana. > Specification 1. Failing to turn in his Affidavit of Acceptance form > for filing as a Presidential Elector. > Specification 2. Failing to turn in his Affidavit of Acceptance > form, corrected version. > Specification 3. Failing to communicate why said form was not turned > in the first time in a timely manner. > Specification 4. Failing to communicate why said form was not turned > in at all the second time. > Specification 5. Failing to display any concern for his tardiness in > turning in these critical forms. > Specification 6. Failing to display any interest in securing the > forms before the legal deadline. > Specification 7. Lack of concern for known deadlines affecting > ballot access for the Libertarian Presidential and Vice-Presidential > candidates. > Specification 8. Causing the chair to go to great personal effort > and expense to remedy the officer's failure to file required legal paperwork > in a timely manner. > Specification 9. Volunteering to be a co-director of a Presidential > campaign for Louisiana, and subsequently failing to accomplish any task, > attend any function, offer any assistance with any planning or coordination > of events, and essentially holding the position in name only. > Specification 10. Making false and baseless accusations of racism > against a fellow state Central Committee member. > Specification 11. Making an announcement for elective office in a > public forum without advising the State Central Committee in advance, > thereby raising questions among the general membership and the voting public > with respect to the Libertarian Party's implied endorsement of his > candidacy, and drawing their leadership into question accordingly. > Specification 12. Failing to form an exploratory committee in > advance of this public announcement, making the announcement without any > established campaign committee, platform, or ready biography for prospective > voters and media. > Specification 13. Failing to provide any such platform or > biographical statement upon the request of prospective voters, Officers and > other party members. > Specification 14. Filing for elective office in 2011 and failing to > duly answer media inquiries, creating a poor impression on voters and media > of the Libertarian Party, its candidates, and its leadership. > > Charge 3. Unethical Conduct > Specification 1. Attempting to get reimbursed for the notarizing of > an Affidavit of Acceptance form in 2008, such cost, incidental to being a > candidate for elective office, being only legally payable by the candidate > or a candidate's committee, and which cannot be paid by the Party. > Specification 2. Attending a 2009 Libertarian State Leadership > Alliance conference, in the Chairman's proxy, at Party expense, for the > purpose of learning more about the new CiviCRM online database system, but > instead, using the opportunity to pitch a dubious fundraising scheme to > other state chairs in concert with a personal business partner who made the > trip, also at Party expense. > Specification 3. Soliciting the LPL to enter into an expensive and > poorly worded contract to raise funds for the Party through a 3rd party via > the selling of medical information devices, this being the same scheme > pitched at the aforementioned conference, and one in which he has personal > connections to the 3rd party which would profit from the contract. > Specification 4. Attempting to get reimbursed for travel expenses as > a condition of fulfilling duties of his office. (traveling to a and from > State Central Committee meetings) > Specification 5. Seeking reimbursement for travel and lodging to > attend the NAACP 2012 convention as a ?liaison? to that organization and > representative of the Party. > Specification 6. Soliciting the Party and a Congressional candidate > to use his personal business services at expense to the Party and the > Candidate. > Specification 7. Using a Strategic Planning Committee meeting to > solicit the party again to use these same services. > Specification 8. Using a Strategic Planning Committee meeting to > solicit volunteers and support from party activists and officers for his > campaign for elective office, rather than using the meeting to plan strategy > for the Party. > Specification 9. Attempting to involve the Party in an electronic > communications scheme which would expose its contact list to his personal > business interests. > Specification 10. Has on numerous occasions, solicited interest in > holding media events, concerts, festivals et cetera, which would not in any > way be publicly linked to the Party, but which would be partly or entirely > funded by the Party, in exchange for a share of the proceeds of such events, > if any. In all of these events, personal friends and himself, were to also > profit. > Specification 11. Attempting to divert discussion at a State Central > Committee meeting concerning online donation logistics towards using his > personal contacts or himself as ?bundlers? for Party funds. > Specification 12. Attempting to attend a private fundraiser for a > Presidential Campaign without making a required donation and while inviting > a guest who also would not make a required donation, thus each of them > partaking of access to the candidate and party activists and of food and > drink provided, without contribution. > > This notice is given by order of the By-laws of the Libertarian > Party of Louisiana, Article 15 ? 2. > > The session proceedings will be held strictly according to Robert's > Rules of Order, Newly Revised, in particular, ?61 Disciplinary Procedures, > for the protection of the Party and the fairness of the accused. > > A committee to be appointed by the Chairman, shall investigate these > charges and specifications, and present these charges along with any > witnesses or evidence to the Committee for its consideration. > > A full briefing on the exact flow of the proceedings, and the rights > and responsibilities of all involved, shall be issued along with the final > agenda. > > Per ?61 of Robert's Rules of Order, Mr. Lewis' membership privileges > (excepting those pertaining to these judicial proceedings), and thus his > status as an officer of the Party, are suspended until the conclusion of the > trial. > > > > Reed Ebarb, Secretary > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org From chairman at lplouisiana.org Sun Mar 24 20:42:06 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 20:42:06 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Vote For Removal In-Reply-To: <514F7582.9010601@lplouisiana.org> References: <3ff88a5a21130412c255b17889fb0b47.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> <514F7582.9010601@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <514FAB6E.7070201@lplouisiana.org> In reference to the issue of suspension, this mention was made in accordance with Robert's ? 61. Specifically, Robert's "Steps in a fair disciplinary process" page 637 Line 32: "...In any event, from the time the accused has been thus notified, all of his rights as a member of the society (except as relate to the trial) are suspended pending disposition of the case." A parliamentarian would have to weigh in on all the possible reasoning for this policy, though it is the opinion of the Chair that this would protect the society from the accused, if he were in such a position, which Mr. Lewis is, from casting votes which may influence, or prevent his trial from occurring. As well, it settles the issue, which may be created by the wording of our By-laws, that in order to remove a 2/3 vote of "all members of the State Central Committee" is necessary. It would be inconsistent with the procedures under Roberts in the case of any vote, to consider that the accused, being otherwise someone who has a vote on the SCC, could by his vote to acquit himself, change the outcome of the Board's decision. Thus, Robert's declares that his rights as a member are suspended, and thus his office is suspended, pending the outcome of the case. Hence, he cannot vote in his own trial on the questions of his guilt or discipline if found guilty, and so his number is not counted in the 2/3 requirement needed to remove him. Robert's also specifies as part of the procedure that the accused is to be excused from the session while the deliberation and vote is taken, thus it would not make sense for the accused to retain the rights of membership, and thus the right to vote on these questions, if he were to be excused and excluded from the vote. It is also the opinion of the Chair, that perhaps this statement by Robert's is included as part of the protections for a society from potential additional harmful actions by a member once they have become accused. I do not know or contemplate what this might entail, but I think the caution of suspending the member and thus the office until the end of trial to be a rational and wise decision as a proactive and protective measure. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Article 15 ? 1 specifies that disciplinary procedures shall follow Robert's except in the special cases of ? 2 and ? 3. ?3 specifies officers can be removed by a Special Convention. ?2 specifies officers can be removed by a vote of the SCC. Robert's doesn't define a vote requirement for removal, but suggests that it should be 2/3. Our By-laws in ? 2 specify that it should be 2/3. Likewise, Robert's suggests that the notice of the judicial action should be given 30 days in advance. Our By-Laws in ?2 specify this requirement to be 21 days. (?2 clause 2) Finally in ?2 clause 1, Robert's suggests that in the call for such a meeting, the details of the charges should NOT be specified, but should be listed generally. Our By-laws in this clause state the opposite, that the charges must be fully stated. Thus the differences between Robert's and our By-laws where our By-laws supersede are: 2/3 vote is required, not just suggested, to remove from office. 21 day, not 30 day notice is required of the meeting where the action is to take place. The charges are to be fully stated, not generalized, in the call for the meeting. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ While the issue of suspending the accused may be debateable, I contend that to NOT suspend the accused would create the situation where the accused could vote on the question of his own guilt or innocence and the question of discipline if any, and thus possibly manage to thwart the Board from implementing disciplinary measures and preventing it from protecting itself and the Party from the accused's behavior. I can't see how this would be the intended outcome of either Robert's or our By-laws. Thus it seems the only two questions here are "does the accused affect the count of "all members of the State Central Committee?" and "does the accused get a vote on the two above mentioned questions on guilt and discipline?" It is the opinion of the Chair that the answer to both of these questions is "no." And the Chair intends to procede under the guidance of Robert's on this topic, thus the declaration of suspension of member and thus officer rights. (save what he is entitled to for trial) In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 3/24/13 4:52 PM, Wes Benedict wrote: > I am concerned about this particular statement which I've copied below. It > appears the Secretary claims the Vice-Chairman has already been suspended > from office. I would like clarification. Who suspended our Vice-Chairman, > and by what authority? I do not have a copy of Robert's Rules of Order. If > something in Robert's Rules appears to give that authority, I would like to > have those details presented (not charges or evidence, but a quotation of > the text from Robert's Rules). I am not convinced our Vice-Chairman has > already been suspended. > >> Per ?61 of Robert's Rules of Order, Mr. Lewis' membership privileges >> (excepting those pertaining to these judicial proceedings), and thus his >> status as an officer of the Party, are suspended until the conclusion of the >> trial. > > If something in Robert's Rules appears to give that authority, and that is > based on Article 15: Section 1 "Disciplinary Action against any Party > members . . . " I will next want to get confirmation that Article 15 Section > 2 "Officers and other . . ." doesn't supersede actions authorized by Article > 15 Section 1. > > Our bylaws provide a procedure for removal of an officer from office. I'm > concerned about the immediate suspension prior to a consideration of removal > from office. > > Thanks, > --Wes Benedict > > > > Reed Ebarb wrote, On 3/22/2013 8:48 PM: >> To all State Central Committee members, >> >> The second quarter regular meeting of the Libertarian Party of >> Louisiana State Central Committee will be held at Lakeview Harbor, 911 >> Harrison Avenue, New Orleans, Louisiana at Noon on Saturday April 13th, >> 2013. >> Attendance by all Officers and Parish Representatives is required per the >> Party By-laws. A working agenda is posted online on the Party website and a >> final agenda will be issued seven days in advance of the meeting. On this >> final agenda you will see a section for an executive session where the >> Committee will consider a disciplinary motion to remove Mr. Scott A. >> Lewis, III from his office as Vice-Chairman of the Party for the following >> charges and specifications: >> >> Charge 1. Dereliction of Duty of the Office of Vice-chairman >> Specification 1. Not being present for the convention at which he >> was elected, and at which he was to serve as an officer, being already duly >> elected by the previous convention. >> Specification 2. Not being present for the first State Central >> Committee meeting, held in Alexandria, Louisiana, such attendance being >> required of his office by the By-laws, his absence preventing a quorum, >> causing members and officers to travel at great expense to themselves >> without purpose. >> Specification 3. Not being present for a meeting of the Strategic >> Planning Committee which he chairs, after calling the meeting, and inviting >> members from other parts of the State to attend, causing them to travel at >> great expense to themselves, and instead, attempting to chair a physical >> meeting by telephone in violation of Robert's Rules of Order. >> Specification 4. Failing to make any attempt to establish Parish >> Executive Committees for unorganized parishes as required of his office >> under the By-laws, leaving the work instead to be done at great personal >> effort and expense to the Executive Director, such work being outside the >> Director's contract, and causing considerable difficulties in negotiating >> agreeable payment terms for such contract. >> Specification 5. In the absence of established Parish Executive >> Committees, failing to take care that the duties assigned to these >> committees are carried out in their respective parishes, either by his own >> actions, or by the appointment of a parish director, organizer, or other >> member as the By-laws require. >> >> Charge 2. Conduct Unbecoming an Officer of the Libertarian Party of >> Louisiana. >> Specification 1. Failing to turn in his Affidavit of Acceptance form >> for filing as a Presidential Elector. >> Specification 2. Failing to turn in his Affidavit of Acceptance >> form, corrected version. >> Specification 3. Failing to communicate why said form was not turned >> in the first time in a timely manner. >> Specification 4. Failing to communicate why said form was not turned >> in at all the second time. >> Specification 5. Failing to display any concern for his tardiness in >> turning in these critical forms. >> Specification 6. Failing to display any interest in securing the >> forms before the legal deadline. >> Specification 7. Lack of concern for known deadlines affecting >> ballot access for the Libertarian Presidential and Vice-Presidential >> candidates. >> Specification 8. Causing the chair to go to great personal effort >> and expense to remedy the officer's failure to file required legal paperwork >> in a timely manner. >> Specification 9. Volunteering to be a co-director of a Presidential >> campaign for Louisiana, and subsequently failing to accomplish any task, >> attend any function, offer any assistance with any planning or coordination >> of events, and essentially holding the position in name only. >> Specification 10. Making false and baseless accusations of racism >> against a fellow state Central Committee member. >> Specification 11. Making an announcement for elective office in a >> public forum without advising the State Central Committee in advance, >> thereby raising questions among the general membership and the voting public >> with respect to the Libertarian Party's implied endorsement of his >> candidacy, and drawing their leadership into question accordingly. >> Specification 12. Failing to form an exploratory committee in >> advance of this public announcement, making the announcement without any >> established campaign committee, platform, or ready biography for prospective >> voters and media. >> Specification 13. Failing to provide any such platform or >> biographical statement upon the request of prospective voters, Officers and >> other party members. >> Specification 14. Filing for elective office in 2011 and failing to >> duly answer media inquiries, creating a poor impression on voters and media >> of the Libertarian Party, its candidates, and its leadership. >> >> Charge 3. Unethical Conduct >> Specification 1. Attempting to get reimbursed for the notarizing of >> an Affidavit of Acceptance form in 2008, such cost, incidental to being a >> candidate for elective office, being only legally payable by the candidate >> or a candidate's committee, and which cannot be paid by the Party. >> Specification 2. Attending a 2009 Libertarian State Leadership >> Alliance conference, in the Chairman's proxy, at Party expense, for the >> purpose of learning more about the new CiviCRM online database system, but >> instead, using the opportunity to pitch a dubious fundraising scheme to >> other state chairs in concert with a personal business partner who made the >> trip, also at Party expense. >> Specification 3. Soliciting the LPL to enter into an expensive and >> poorly worded contract to raise funds for the Party through a 3rd party via >> the selling of medical information devices, this being the same scheme >> pitched at the aforementioned conference, and one in which he has personal >> connections to the 3rd party which would profit from the contract. >> Specification 4. Attempting to get reimbursed for travel expenses as >> a condition of fulfilling duties of his office. (traveling to a and from >> State Central Committee meetings) >> Specification 5. Seeking reimbursement for travel and lodging to >> attend the NAACP 2012 convention as a "liaison" to that organization and >> representative of the Party. >> Specification 6. Soliciting the Party and a Congressional candidate >> to use his personal business services at expense to the Party and the >> Candidate. >> Specification 7. Using a Strategic Planning Committee meeting to >> solicit the party again to use these same services. >> Specification 8. Using a Strategic Planning Committee meeting to >> solicit volunteers and support from party activists and officers for his >> campaign for elective office, rather than using the meeting to plan strategy >> for the Party. >> Specification 9. Attempting to involve the Party in an electronic >> communications scheme which would expose its contact list to his personal >> business interests. >> Specification 10. Has on numerous occasions, solicited interest in >> holding media events, concerts, festivals et cetera, which would not in any >> way be publicly linked to the Party, but which would be partly or entirely >> funded by the Party, in exchange for a share of the proceeds of such events, >> if any. In all of these events, personal friends and himself, were to also >> profit. >> Specification 11. Attempting to divert discussion at a State Central >> Committee meeting concerning online donation logistics towards using his >> personal contacts or himself as "bundlers" for Party funds. >> Specification 12. Attempting to attend a private fundraiser for a >> Presidential Campaign without making a required donation and while inviting >> a guest who also would not make a required donation, thus each of them >> partaking of access to the candidate and party activists and of food and >> drink provided, without contribution. >> >> This notice is given by order of the By-laws of the Libertarian >> Party of Louisiana, Article 15 ? 2. >> >> The session proceedings will be held strictly according to Robert's >> Rules of Order, Newly Revised, in particular, ?61 Disciplinary Procedures, >> for the protection of the Party and the fairness of the accused. >> >> A committee to be appointed by the Chairman, shall investigate these >> charges and specifications, and present these charges along with any >> witnesses or evidence to the Committee for its consideration. >> >> A full briefing on the exact flow of the proceedings, and the rights >> and responsibilities of all involved, shall be issued along with the final >> agenda. >> >> Per ?61 of Robert's Rules of Order, Mr. Lewis' membership privileges >> (excepting those pertaining to these judicial proceedings), and thus his >> status as an officer of the Party, are suspended until the conclusion of the >> trial. >> >> >> >> Reed Ebarb, Secretary >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Please get your comments in quickly so this can be a timely release. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE *Libertarian Party of Louisiana Weighs In On Tax Reform Debate* Lafayette, Louisiana (March 26, 2013)---The Libertarian Party of Louisiana (LPL) applauds the current plans for tax reform but says the proposals fall far short of a serious effort. Libertarians fully support the elimination of the barbaric and confiscatory practice of taking money earned by hard working citizens via so-called "income taxes." However, they caution that any serious tax reform must include reductions in bloated government spending. The LPL scoffs at attempts to characterize tax reform in class envy terms. "Fairness," Libertarians contend, should never be a standard by which to judge taxation. Instead, the party believes that a tax should be judged by how much it negatively impacts the ability of consumers to meet their needs with the limited resources of their paychecks and savings. A tax, notes the LPL, needs to be as light and unobtrusive as possible so it is not a burden upon business or consumers. "A tax on a wage or salary is outright theft of your legitimately acquired property and is unfit for a free society," said state chairman Adrien Monteleone. Mr. Monteleone also notes that, "the current hang-ups by detractors over 'revenue neutrality' are red herrings---a socialist and progressive ploy that is a throwback from the 1980's era efforts at national tax and spending reform. Democrats used 'neutrality' to thwart the move to reduce bloated government in a 'compromise' to get bills passed. This resulted in monstrous deficits." He continues, "Cast aside the flawed idea of revenue neutrality, and reformers can focus on raising legitimate revenue. If this is not enough money to fund the current levels of government spending, then the obvious next step is to reduce those bloated levels of spending. If serious spending reform were considered, there would be no need to even raise sales tax rates or extend the current tax base. Personal and business taxes can still be eliminated, and it might even be possible to lower sales tax rates further." "Extending the base to include services is also problematic when determining the 'final consumer' of those services as in the case of engineering, architectural, and other fees in the construction industry. Who is the final consumer, the architect, the builder, the contractor, the home owner? Is the administration suggesting taxation upon taxation upon taxation?" asks Mr. Monteleone. The LPL applauds the administration's effort to simplify sales tax filing for businesses, but they suggest that sales should be taxable at the point of sale and never at point of delivery. This would be far simpler and easier to implement and comply with. Such a move would also provide economic incentive for local jurisdictions to keep their sales tax rates as low as possible. Some of these local rates alone are as high as 5-6%. The Libertarian Party is currently the third largest political party in Louisiana and is the fastest growing party in the State, growing over 50% since this time last year. The Party is currently organizing on the parish level to begin seriously contesting local elections and will be recruiting candidates for congressional, legislative and statewide elections over the next two years. For more information on the LPL or its positions, visit LPLouisiana.org. Contact: Adrien Monteleone, chairman chairman at lplouisiana.org 337-593-8208 ### -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thomas Sowell --- On Tue, 3/26/13, Adrien Monteleone wrote: From: Adrien Monteleone Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Tax Reform PRESS RELEASE - for your approval To: "Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors" Date: Tuesday, March 26, 2013, 2:41 AM Since the Tax Reform discussion is heating up and on the agenda in a few weeks, I'd like to issue the following press release to inject the LPL into the debate. Please offer any critiques or suggestions.? Also, if you'd like to take ownership of one of the quotes, or provide your own (without adding too much to the word count) please let me know. I'd like to release this tomorrow, but I can wait till later in the week perhaps.? Please get your comments in quickly so this can be a timely release. FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Libertarian Party of Louisiana Weighs In On Tax Reform Debate Lafayette, Louisiana (March 26, 2013)?The Libertarian Party of Louisiana (LPL) applauds the current plans for tax reform but says the proposals fall far short of a serious effort. Libertarians fully support the elimination of the barbaric and confiscatory practice of taking money earned by hard working citizens via so-called ?income taxes.? However, they caution that any serious tax reform must include reductions in bloated government spending. The LPL scoffs at attempts to characterize tax reform in class envy terms. ?Fairness,? Libertarians contend, should never be a standard by which to judge taxation. Instead, the party believes that a tax should be judged by how much it negatively impacts the ability of consumers to meet their needs with the limited resources of their paychecks and savings. A tax, notes the LPL, needs to be as light and unobtrusive as possible so it is not a burden upon business or consumers. ?A tax on a wage or salary is outright theft of your legitimately acquired property and is unfit for a free society,? said state chairman Adrien Monteleone. Mr. Monteleone also notes that, ?the current hang-ups by detractors over ?revenue neutrality? are red herrings?a socialist and progressive ploy that is a throwback from the 1980?s era efforts at national tax and spending reform. Democrats used ?neutrality? to thwart the move to reduce bloated government in a ?compromise? to get bills passed. This resulted in monstrous deficits.? He continues, ?Cast aside the flawed idea of revenue neutrality, and reformers can focus on raising legitimate revenue. If this is not enough money to fund the current levels of government spending, then the obvious next step is to reduce those bloated levels of spending. If serious spending reform were considered, there would be no need to even raise sales tax rates or extend the current tax base. Personal and business taxes can still be eliminated, and it might even be possible to lower sales tax rates further.? ?Extending the base to include services is also problematic when determining the ?final consumer? of those services as in the case of engineering, architectural, and other fees in the construction industry. Who is the final consumer, the architect, the builder, the contractor, the home owner? Is the administration suggesting taxation upon taxation upon taxation?? asks Mr. Monteleone. The LPL applauds the administration?s effort to simplify sales tax filing for businesses, but they suggest that sales should be taxable at the point of sale and never at point of delivery. This would be far simpler and easier to implement and comply with. Such a move would also provide economic incentive for local jurisdictions to keep their sales tax rates as low as possible. Some of these local rates alone are as high as 5-6%. The Libertarian Party is currently the third largest political party in Louisiana and is the fastest growing party in the State, growing over 50% since this time last year. The Party is currently organizing on the parish level to begin seriously contesting local elections and will be recruiting candidates for congressional, legislative and statewide elections over the next two years. For more information on the LPL or its positions, visit LPLouisiana.org. Contact: Adrien Monteleone, chairman chairman at lplouisiana.org 337-593-8208 ### -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From elections at lplouisiana.org Tue Mar 26 07:39:13 2013 From: elections at lplouisiana.org (elections at lplouisiana.org) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 07:39:13 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Tax Reform PRESS RELEASE - for your approval In-Reply-To: <1364298856.96014.YahooMailClassic@web181603.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1364298856.96014.YahooMailClassic@web181603.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I like it. Good stuff. bws > If politicians were serious about day care for children, instead of just > sloganizing about it, nothing they could do would improve the quality of > child care more than by lifting the heavy burden of taxation that forces > so many families to have both parents working. > Thomas Sowell > > --- On Tue, 3/26/13, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > > > From: Adrien Monteleone > Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Tax Reform PRESS RELEASE - for your > approval > To: "Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors" > Date: Tuesday, March 26, 2013, 2:41 AM > > > > Since the Tax Reform discussion is heating up and on the agenda in a few > weeks, I'd like to issue the following press release to inject the LPL > into the debate. > > Please offer any critiques or suggestions.?? Also, if you'd like to take > ownership of one of the quotes, or provide your own (without adding too > much to the word count) please let me know. > > I'd like to release this tomorrow, but I can wait till later in the week > perhaps.?? Please get your comments in quickly so this can be a timely > release. > > > > FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE > > Libertarian Party of Louisiana Weighs In On Tax Reform Debate > > Lafayette, Louisiana (March 26, 2013)???The Libertarian Party of Louisiana > (LPL) applauds the current plans for tax reform but says the proposals > fall far short of a serious effort. Libertarians fully support the > elimination of the barbaric and confiscatory practice of taking money > earned by hard working citizens via so-called ???income taxes.??? However, > they caution that any serious tax reform must include reductions in > bloated government spending. > > The LPL scoffs at attempts to characterize tax reform in class envy terms. > ???Fairness,??? Libertarians contend, should never be a standard by which > to judge taxation. Instead, the party believes that a tax should be judged > by how much it negatively impacts the ability of consumers to meet their > needs with the limited resources of their paychecks and savings. A tax, > notes the LPL, needs to be as light and unobtrusive as possible so it is > not a burden upon business or consumers. ???A tax on a wage or salary is > outright theft of your legitimately acquired property and is unfit for a > free society,??? said state chairman Adrien Monteleone. > > Mr. Monteleone also notes that, ???the current hang-ups by detractors over > ???revenue neutrality??? are red herrings???a socialist and progressive > ploy that is a throwback from the 1980???s era efforts at national tax and > spending reform. Democrats used ???neutrality??? to thwart the move to > reduce bloated government in a ???compromise??? to get bills passed. This > resulted in monstrous deficits.??? He continues, ???Cast aside the flawed > idea of revenue neutrality, and reformers can focus on raising legitimate > revenue. If this is not enough money to fund the current levels of > government spending, then the obvious next step is to reduce those bloated > levels of spending. If serious spending reform were considered, there > would be no need to even raise sales tax rates or extend the current tax > base. Personal and business taxes can still be eliminated, and it might > even be possible to lower sales tax rates further.??? > > ???Extending the base to include services is also problematic when > determining the ???final consumer??? of those services as in the case of > engineering, architectural, and other fees in the construction industry. > Who is the final consumer, the architect, the builder, the contractor, the > home owner? Is the administration suggesting taxation upon taxation upon > taxation???? asks Mr. Monteleone. > > The LPL applauds the administration???s effort to simplify sales tax > filing for businesses, but they suggest that sales should be taxable at > the point of sale and never at point of delivery. This would be far > simpler and easier to implement and comply with. Such a move would also > provide economic incentive for local jurisdictions to keep their sales tax > rates as low as possible. Some of these local rates alone are as high as > 5-6%. > > The Libertarian Party is currently the third largest political party in > Louisiana and is the fastest growing party in the State, growing over 50% > since this time last year. The Party is currently organizing on the parish > level to begin seriously contesting local elections and will be recruiting > candidates for congressional, legislative and statewide elections over the > next two years. For more information on the LPL or its positions, visit > LPLouisiana.org. > > Contact: > Adrien Monteleone, chairman > chairman at lplouisiana.org > 337-593-8208 > ### > > -- > In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > From Paladin at LPLouisiana.org Tue Mar 26 08:03:14 2013 From: Paladin at LPLouisiana.org (T Lee Horne III) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 09:03:14 -0400 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Tax Reform PRESS RELEASE - for your approval In-Reply-To: <5151513F.6020609@lplouisiana.org> References: <5151513F.6020609@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <001a01ce2a22$4c058d50$e410a7f0$@org> I suggest one change, from " The LPL scoffs at attempts" to "The LPL disagrees with attempts" I am not attached to the change however I feel a significant population segment may not know what scoffs means and implies. If there is room, and you agree, you may want to point out that an income tax is effectively a sales tax collected in advance of the sale. Without an income tax almost everyone would have 30% and some would have almost 50% more spending power and there would be no need for a second income to support the home, pay for food, clothing and medical needs. Or put another way there would be no need to earn $150.00 so as to have $100.00 left to spend on goods or services. In addition the person or company producing services would not have to charge $100.00 for the item in order to have $75.00 to keep in their pocket. T Lee Horne, III Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 tleehorneiii at gmail.com 318-542-4445 google voice tleehorneiii skype http://bit.ly/12zAQMS From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of Adrien Monteleone Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 3:42 AM To: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Tax Reform PRESS RELEASE - for your approval Since the Tax Reform discussion is heating up and on the agenda in a few weeks, I'd like to issue the following press release to inject the LPL into the debate. Please offer any critiques or suggestions. Also, if you'd like to take ownership of one of the quotes, or provide your own (without adding too much to the word count) please let me know. I'd like to release this tomorrow, but I can wait till later in the week perhaps. Please get your comments in quickly so this can be a timely release. _____ FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Libertarian Party of Louisiana Weighs In On Tax Reform Debate Lafayette, Louisiana (March 26, 2013)-The Libertarian Party of Louisiana (LPL) applauds the current plans for tax reform but says the proposals fall far short of a serious effort. Libertarians fully support the elimination of the barbaric and confiscatory practice of taking money earned by hard working citizens via so-called "income taxes." However, they caution that any serious tax reform must include reductions in bloated government spending. The LPL scoffs at attempts to characterize tax reform in class envy terms. "Fairness," Libertarians contend, should never be a standard by which to judge taxation. Instead, the party believes that a tax should be judged by how much it negatively impacts the ability of consumers to meet their needs with the limited resources of their paychecks and savings. A tax, notes the LPL, needs to be as light and unobtrusive as possible so it is not a burden upon business or consumers. "A tax on a wage or salary is outright theft of your legitimately acquired property and is unfit for a free society," said state chairman Adrien Monteleone. Mr. Monteleone also notes that, "the current hang-ups by detractors over 'revenue neutrality' are red herrings-a socialist and progressive ploy that is a throwback from the 1980's era efforts at national tax and spending reform. Democrats used 'neutrality' to thwart the move to reduce bloated government in a 'compromise' to get bills passed. This resulted in monstrous deficits." He continues, "Cast aside the flawed idea of revenue neutrality, and reformers can focus on raising legitimate revenue. If this is not enough money to fund the current levels of government spending, then the obvious next step is to reduce those bloated levels of spending. If serious spending reform were considered, there would be no need to even raise sales tax rates or extend the current tax base. Personal and business taxes can still be eliminated, and it might even be possible to lower sales tax rates further." "Extending the base to include services is also problematic when determining the 'final consumer' of those services as in the case of engineering, architectural, and other fees in the construction industry. Who is the final consumer, the architect, the builder, the contractor, the home owner? Is the administration suggesting taxation upon taxation upon taxation?" asks Mr. Monteleone. The LPL applauds the administration's effort to simplify sales tax filing for businesses, but they suggest that sales should be taxable at the point of sale and never at point of delivery. This would be far simpler and easier to implement and comply with. Such a move would also provide economic incentive for local jurisdictions to keep their sales tax rates as low as possible. Some of these local rates alone are as high as 5-6%. The Libertarian Party is currently the third largest political party in Louisiana and is the fastest growing party in the State, growing over 50% since this time last year. The Party is currently organizing on the parish level to begin seriously contesting local elections and will be recruiting candidates for congressional, legislative and statewide elections over the next two years. For more information on the LPL or its positions, visit LPLouisiana.org. Contact: Adrien Monteleone, chairman chairman at lplouisiana.org 337-593-8208 ### -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana This message has been processed by Firetrust Benign. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From membership at lplouisiana.org Tue Mar 26 09:26:15 2013 From: membership at lplouisiana.org (Membership LPL) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 09:26:15 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Tax Reform PRESS RELEASE - for your approval In-Reply-To: <001a01ce2a22$4c058d50$e410a7f0$@org> References: <5151513F.6020609@lplouisiana.org> <001a01ce2a22$4c058d50$e410a7f0$@org> Message-ID: <000001ce2a2d$e0915980$a1b40c80$@org> I offer the following tweaks. I put it into MS Word so the changes will be obvious. --------------------------- Howard Kearney Membership From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of T Lee Horne III Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 8:03 AM To: 'Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors' Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Tax Reform PRESS RELEASE - for your approval I suggest one change, from " The LPL scoffs at attempts" to "The LPL disagrees with attempts" I am not attached to the change however I feel a significant population segment may not know what scoffs means and implies. If there is room, and you agree, you may want to point out that an income tax is effectively a sales tax collected in advance of the sale. Without an income tax almost everyone would have 30% and some would have almost 50% more spending power and there would be no need for a second income to support the home, pay for food, clothing and medical needs. Or put another way there would be no need to earn $150.00 so as to have $100.00 left to spend on goods or services. In addition the person or company producing services would not have to charge $100.00 for the item in order to have $75.00 to keep in their pocket. T Lee Horne, III Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 tleehorneiii at gmail.com 318-542-4445 google voice tleehorneiii skype http://bit.ly/12zAQMS From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of Adrien Monteleone Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 3:42 AM To: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Tax Reform PRESS RELEASE - for your approval Since the Tax Reform discussion is heating up and on the agenda in a few weeks, I'd like to issue the following press release to inject the LPL into the debate. Please offer any critiques or suggestions. Also, if you'd like to take ownership of one of the quotes, or provide your own (without adding too much to the word count) please let me know. I'd like to release this tomorrow, but I can wait till later in the week perhaps. Please get your comments in quickly so this can be a timely release. _____ FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Libertarian Party of Louisiana Weighs In On Tax Reform Debate Lafayette, Louisiana (March 26, 2013)-The Libertarian Party of Louisiana (LPL) applauds the current plans for tax reform but says the proposals fall far short of a serious effort. Libertarians fully support the elimination of the barbaric and confiscatory practice of taking money earned by hard working citizens via so-called "income taxes." However, they caution that any serious tax reform must include reductions in bloated government spending. The LPL scoffs at attempts to characterize tax reform in class envy terms. "Fairness," Libertarians contend, should never be a standard by which to judge taxation. Instead, the party believes that a tax should be judged by how much it negatively impacts the ability of consumers to meet their needs with the limited resources of their paychecks and savings. A tax, notes the LPL, needs to be as light and unobtrusive as possible so it is not a burden upon business or consumers. "A tax on a wage or salary is outright theft of your legitimately acquired property and is unfit for a free society," said state chairman Adrien Monteleone. Mr. Monteleone also notes that, "the current hang-ups by detractors over 'revenue neutrality' are red herrings-a socialist and progressive ploy that is a throwback from the 1980's era efforts at national tax and spending reform. Democrats used 'neutrality' to thwart the move to reduce bloated government in a 'compromise' to get bills passed. This resulted in monstrous deficits." He continues, "Cast aside the flawed idea of revenue neutrality, and reformers can focus on raising legitimate revenue. If this is not enough money to fund the current levels of government spending, then the obvious next step is to reduce those bloated levels of spending. If serious spending reform were considered, there would be no need to even raise sales tax rates or extend the current tax base. Personal and business taxes can still be eliminated, and it might even be possible to lower sales tax rates further." "Extending the base to include services is also problematic when determining the 'final consumer' of those services as in the case of engineering, architectural, and other fees in the construction industry. Who is the final consumer, the architect, the builder, the contractor, the home owner? Is the administration suggesting taxation upon taxation upon taxation?" asks Mr. Monteleone. The LPL applauds the administration's effort to simplify sales tax filing for businesses, but they suggest that sales should be taxable at the point of sale and never at point of delivery. This would be far simpler and easier to implement and comply with. Such a move would also provide economic incentive for local jurisdictions to keep their sales tax rates as low as possible. Some of these local rates alone are as high as 5-6%. The Libertarian Party is currently the third largest political party in Louisiana and is the fastest growing party in the State, growing over 50% since this time last year. The Party is currently organizing on the parish level to begin seriously contesting local elections and will be recruiting candidates for congressional, legislative and statewide elections over the next two years. For more information on the LPL or its positions, visit LPLouisiana.org. Contact: Adrien Monteleone, chairman chairman at lplouisiana.org 337-593-8208 ### -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana This message has been processed by Firetrust Benign. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks, Keith On 2013-03-26 09:26, Membership LPL wrote: > I offer the following tweaks. I put it into MS Word so the changes will be obvious. > > --------------------------- > > Howard Kearney > > Membership > > FROM: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] ON BEHALF OF T Lee Horne III > SENT: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 8:03 AM > TO: 'Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors' > SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Tax Reform PRESS RELEASE - for your approval > > I suggest one change, from " The LPL scoffs at attempts" to "The LPL disagrees with attempts" > > I am not attached to the change however I feel a significant population segment may not know what scoffs means and implies. > > If there is room, and you agree, you may want to point out that an income tax is effectively a sales tax collected in advance of the sale. Without an income tax almost everyone would have 30% and some would have almost 50% more spending power and there would be no need for a second income to support the home, pay for food, clothing and medical needs. Or put another way there would be no need to earn $150.00 so as to have $100.00 left to spend on goods or services. In addition the person or company producing services would not have to charge $100.00 for the item in order to have $75.00 to keep in their pocket. > > T LEE HORNE, III > > Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA > > President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 > > Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 > > Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 > > tleehorneiii at gmail.com > > 318-542-4445 google voice > > tleehorneiii skype > > HTTP://BIT.LY/12ZAQMS [2] > > FROM: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] ON BEHALF OF Adrien Monteleone > SENT: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 3:42 AM > TO: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors > SUBJECT: [LPL Board of Directors] Tax Reform PRESS RELEASE - for your approval > > Since the Tax Reform discussion is heating up and on the agenda in a few weeks, I'd like to issue the following press release to inject the LPL into the debate. > > Please offer any critiques or suggestions. Also, if you'd like to take ownership of one of the quotes, or provide your own (without adding too much to the word count) please let me know. > > I'd like to release this tomorrow, but I can wait till later in the week perhaps. Please get your comments in quickly so this can be a timely release. > > ------------------------- > > FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE > > LIBERTARIAN PARTY OF LOUISIANA WEIGHS IN ON TAX REFORM DEBATE > > Lafayette, Louisiana (March 26, 2013)--The Libertarian Party of Louisiana (LPL) applauds the current plans for tax reform but says the proposals fall far short of a serious effort. Libertarians fully support the elimination of the barbaric and confiscatory practice of taking money earned by hard working citizens via so-called "income taxes." However, they caution that any serious tax reform must include reductions in bloated government spending. > > The LPL scoffs at attempts to characterize tax reform in class envy terms. "Fairness," Libertarians contend, should never be a standard by which to judge taxation. Instead, the party believes that a tax should be judged by how much it negatively impacts the ability of consumers to meet their needs with the limited resources of their paychecks and savings. A tax, notes the LPL, needs to be as light and unobtrusive as possible so it is not a burden upon business or consumers. "A tax on a wage or salary is outright theft of your legitimately acquired property and is unfit for a free society," said state chairman Adrien Monteleone. > > Mr. Monteleone also notes that, "the current hang-ups by detractors over 'revenue neutrality' are red herrings--a socialist and progressive ploy that is a throwback from the 1980's era efforts at national tax and spending reform. Democrats used 'neutrality' to thwart the move to reduce bloated government in a 'compromise' to get bills passed. This resulted in monstrous deficits." He continues, "Cast aside the flawed idea of revenue neutrality, and reformers can focus on raising legitimate revenue. If this is not enough money to fund the current levels of government spending, then the obvious next step is to reduce those bloated levels of spending. If serious spending reform were considered, there would be no need to even raise sales tax rates or extend the current tax base. Personal and business taxes can still be eliminated, and it might even be possible to lower sales tax rates further." > > "Extending the base to include services is also problematic when determining the 'final consumer' of those services as in the case of engineering, architectural, and other fees in the construction industry. Who is the final consumer, the architect, the builder, the contractor, the home owner? Is the administration suggesting taxation upon taxation upon taxation?" asks Mr. Monteleone. > > The LPL applauds the administration's effort to simplify sales tax filing for businesses, but they suggest that sales should be taxable at the point of sale and never at point of delivery. This would be far simpler and easier to implement and comply with. Such a move would also provide economic incentive for local jurisdictions to keep their sales tax rates as low as possible. Some of these local rates alone are as high as 5-6%. > > The Libertarian Party is currently the third largest political party in Louisiana and is the fastest growing party in the State, growing over 50% since this time last year. The Party is currently organizing on the parish level to begin seriously contesting local elections and will be recruiting candidates for congressional, legislative and statewide elections over the next two years. For more information on the LPL or its positions, visit LPLouisiana.org. > > Contact: > Adrien Monteleone, chairman > chairman at lplouisiana.org > 337-593-8208 > ### > > -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > This message has been processed by Firetrust Benign [3]. > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] -- KEITH THOMPSON _Communications Officer_ Libertarian Party of Louisiana media at lplouisiana.org LPLouisiana.org [4] Links: ------ [1] http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [2] http://bit.ly/12zAQMS [3] http://www.firetrust.com/products/benign/ [4] http://www.lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Tax Reform PRESS RELEASE.docx Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document Size: 16322 bytes Desc: not available URL: From membership at lplouisiana.org Tue Mar 26 10:35:33 2013 From: membership at lplouisiana.org (Membership LPL) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 10:35:33 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Tax Reform PRESS RELEASE - for your approval In-Reply-To: <3f73069cad8fc8317e6f8e4db347f4b1@lplouisiana.org> References: <5151513F.6020609@lplouisiana.org> <001a01ce2a22$4c058d50$e410a7f0$@org> <000001ce2a2d$e0915980$a1b40c80$@org> <3f73069cad8fc8317e6f8e4db347f4b1@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <000c01ce2a37$8ed11cc0$ac735640$@org> Looks good to me Keith. I hesitated changing any of the quotes. I wonder would Adrien really use the word ?tantamount? in every day talking. J --------------------------- Howard Kearney Membership From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of Keith Thompson Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 9:55 AM To: scc at lplouisiana.org Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Tax Reform PRESS RELEASE - for your approval That's an excellent idea for a press release. I've made a few minor tweaks as well. If we can get this approved soon, I'll try to get a statement about it on the news here. The news director is leaving for the week shortly, so the sooner the better. Thanks, Keith On 2013-03-26 09:26, Membership LPL wrote: I offer the following tweaks. I put it into MS Word so the changes will be obvious. --------------------------- Howard Kearney Membership From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of T Lee Horne III Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 8:03 AM To: 'Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors' Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Tax Reform PRESS RELEASE - for your approval I suggest one change, from " The LPL scoffs at attempts" to "The LPL disagrees with attempts" I am not attached to the change however I feel a significant population segment may not know what scoffs means and implies. If there is room, and you agree, you may want to point out that an income tax is effectively a sales tax collected in advance of the sale. Without an income tax almost everyone would have 30% and some would have almost 50% more spending power and there would be no need for a second income to support the home, pay for food, clothing and medical needs. Or put another way there would be no need to earn $150.00 so as to have $100.00 left to spend on goods or services. In addition the person or company producing services would not have to charge $100.00 for the item in order to have $75.00 to keep in their pocket. T Lee Horne, III Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 tleehorneiii at gmail.com 318-542-4445 google voice tleehorneiii skype http://bit.ly/12zAQMS From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of Adrien Monteleone Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 3:42 AM To: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Tax Reform PRESS RELEASE - for your approval Since the Tax Reform discussion is heating up and on the agenda in a few weeks, I'd like to issue the following press release to inject the LPL into the debate. Please offer any critiques or suggestions. Also, if you'd like to take ownership of one of the quotes, or provide your own (without adding too much to the word count) please let me know. I'd like to release this tomorrow, but I can wait till later in the week perhaps. Please get your comments in quickly so this can be a timely release. _____ FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Libertarian Party of Louisiana Weighs In On Tax Reform Debate Lafayette, Louisiana (March 26, 2013)?The Libertarian Party of Louisiana (LPL) applauds the current plans for tax reform but says the proposals fall far short of a serious effort. Libertarians fully support the elimination of the barbaric and confiscatory practice of taking money earned by hard working citizens via so-called ?income taxes.? However, they caution that any serious tax reform must include reductions in bloated government spending. The LPL scoffs at attempts to characterize tax reform in class envy terms. ?Fairness,? Libertarians contend, should never be a standard by which to judge taxation. Instead, the party believes that a tax should be judged by how much it negatively impacts the ability of consumers to meet their needs with the limited resources of their paychecks and savings. A tax, notes the LPL, needs to be as light and unobtrusive as possible so it is not a burden upon business or consumers. ?A tax on a wage or salary is outright theft of your legitimately acquired property and is unfit for a free society,? said state chairman Adrien Monteleone. Mr. Monteleone also notes that, ?the current hang-ups by detractors over ?revenue neutrality? are red herrings?a socialist and progressive ploy that is a throwback from the 1980?s era efforts at national tax and spending reform. Democrats used ?neutrality? to thwart the move to reduce bloated government in a ?compromise? to get bills passed. This resulted in monstrous deficits.? He continues, ?Cast aside the flawed idea of revenue neutrality, and reformers can focus on raising legitimate revenue. If this is not enough money to fund the current levels of government spending, then the obvious next step is to reduce those bloated levels of spending. If serious spending reform were considered, there would be no need to even raise sales tax rates or extend the current tax base. Personal and business taxes can still be eliminated, and it might even be possible to lower sales tax rates further.? ?Extending the base to include services is also problematic when determining the ?final consumer? of those services as in the case of engineering, architectural, and other fees in the construction industry. Who is the final consumer, the architect, the builder, the contractor, the home owner? Is the administration suggesting taxation upon taxation upon taxation?? asks Mr. Monteleone. The LPL applauds the administration?s effort to simplify sales tax filing for businesses, but they suggest that sales should be taxable at the point of sale and never at point of delivery. This would be far simpler and easier to implement and comply with. Such a move would also provide economic incentive for local jurisdictions to keep their sales tax rates as low as possible. Some of these local rates alone are as high as 5-6%. The Libertarian Party is currently the third largest political party in Louisiana and is the fastest growing party in the State, growing over 50% since this time last year. The Party is currently organizing on the parish level to begin seriously contesting local elections and will be recruiting candidates for congressional, legislative and statewide elections over the next two years. For more information on the LPL or its positions, visit LPLouisiana.org. 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URL: From chairman at lplouisiana.org Tue Mar 26 13:56:42 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 13:56:42 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Tax Reform PRESS RELEASE - for your approval In-Reply-To: <1364298856.96014.YahooMailClassic@web181603.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1364298856.96014.YahooMailClassic@web181603.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5151EF6A.5040600@lplouisiana.org> Thanks Frank, I'll try to work that one in. In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 3/26/13 6:54 AM, Franklin Griffin wrote: > If politicians were serious about day care for children, instead of just > sloganizing about it, nothing they could do would improve the quality of > child care more than by lifting the heavy burden of taxation that forces so > many families to have both parents working. > /Thomas Sowell/ > > > --- On *Tue, 3/26/13, Adrien Monteleone //* wrote: > > > From: Adrien Monteleone > Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Tax Reform PRESS RELEASE - for your > approval > To: "Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors" > Date: Tuesday, March 26, 2013, 2:41 AM > > Since the Tax Reform discussion is heating up and on the agenda in a few > weeks, I'd like to issue the following press release to inject the LPL > into the debate. > > Please offer any critiques or suggestions. Also, if you'd like to take > ownership of one of the quotes, or provide your own (without adding too > much to the word count) please let me know. > > I'd like to release this tomorrow, but I can wait till later in the week > perhaps. Please get your comments in quickly so this can be a timely > release. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE > > *Libertarian Party of Louisiana Weighs In On Tax Reform Debate* > > Lafayette, Louisiana (March 26, 2013)?EUR"The Libertarian Party of > Louisiana (LPL) applauds the current plans for tax reform but says the > proposals fall far short of a serious effort. Libertarians fully support > the elimination of the barbaric and confiscatory practice of taking > money earned by hard working citizens via so-called ?EURoeincome > taxes.?EUR? However, they caution that any serious tax reform must > include reductions in bloated government spending. > > The LPL scoffs at attempts to characterize tax reform in class envy > terms. ?EURoeFairness,?EUR? Libertarians contend, should never be a > standard by which to judge taxation. Instead, the party believes that a > tax should be judged by how much it negatively impacts the ability of > consumers to meet their needs with the limited resources of their > paychecks and savings. A tax, notes the LPL, needs to be as light and > unobtrusive as possible so it is not a burden upon business or > consumers. ?EURoeA tax on a wage or salary is outright theft of your > legitimately acquired property and is unfit for a free society,?EUR? > said state chairman Adrien Monteleone. > > Mr. Monteleone also notes that, ?EURoethe current hang-ups by detractors > over ?EUR~revenue neutrality?EUR^(TM) are red herrings?EUR"a socialist > and progressive ploy that is a throwback from the 1980?EUR^(TM)s era > efforts at national tax and spending reform. Democrats used > ?EUR~neutrality?EUR^(TM) to thwart the move to reduce bloated government > in a ?EUR~compromise?EUR^(TM) to get bills passed. This resulted in > monstrous deficits.?EUR? He continues, ?EURoeCast aside the flawed idea > of revenue neutrality, and reformers can focus on raising legitimate > revenue. If this is not enough money to fund the current levels of > government spending, then the obvious next step is to reduce those > bloated levels of spending. If serious spending reform were considered, > there would be no need to even raise sales tax rates or extend the > current tax base. Personal and business taxes can still be eliminated, > and it might even be possible to lower sales tax rates further.?EUR? > > ?EURoeExtending the base to include services is also problematic when > determining the ?EUR~final consumer?EUR^(TM) of those services as in the > case of engineering, architectural, and other fees in the construction > industry. Who is the final consumer, the architect, the builder, the > contractor, the home owner? Is the administration suggesting taxation > upon taxation upon taxation??EUR? asks Mr. Monteleone. > > The LPL applauds the administration?EUR^(TM)s effort to simplify sales > tax filing for businesses, but they suggest that sales should be taxable > at the point of sale and never at point of delivery. This would be far > simpler and easier to implement and comply with. Such a move would also > provide economic incentive for local jurisdictions to keep their sales > tax rates as low as possible. Some of these local rates alone are as > high as 5-6%. > > The Libertarian Party is currently the third largest political party in > Louisiana and is the fastest growing party in the State, growing over > 50% since this time last year. The Party is currently organizing on the > parish level to begin seriously contesting local elections and will be > recruiting candidates for congressional, legislative and statewide > elections over the next two years. For more information on the LPL or > its positions, visit LPLouisiana.org. > > Contact: > Adrien Monteleone, chairman > chairman at lplouisiana.org > > 337-593-8208 > ### > > -- > In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 3/26/13 8:03 AM, T Lee Horne III wrote: > > I suggest one change, from "The LPL scoffs at attempts" to "The LPL > disagrees with attempts" > > I am not attached to the change however I feel a significant population > segment may not know what scoffs means and implies. > > If there is room, and you agree, you may want to point out that an income > tax is effectively a sales tax collected in advance of the sale. Without an > income tax almost everyone would have 30% and some would have almost 50% > more spending power and there would be no need for a second income to > support the home, pay for food, clothing and medical needs. Or put another > way there would be no need to earn $150.00 so as to have $100.00 left to > spend on goods or services. In addition the person or company producing > services would not have to charge $100.00 for the item in order to have > $75.00 to keep in their pocket. > > *T Lee Horne, III* > > Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA > > President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 > > Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 > > Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 > > tleehorneiii at gmail.com > > 318-542-4445 google voice > > tleehorneiii skype > > *http://bit.ly/12zAQMS* > > *From:*scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] *On > Behalf Of *Adrien Monteleone > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 26, 2013 3:42 AM > *To:* Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors > *Subject:* [LPL Board of Directors] Tax Reform PRESS RELEASE - for your approval > > Since the Tax Reform discussion is heating up and on the agenda in a few > weeks, I'd like to issue the following press release to inject the LPL into > the debate. > > Please offer any critiques or suggestions. Also, if you'd like to take > ownership of one of the quotes, or provide your own (without adding too much > to the word count) please let me know. > > I'd like to release this tomorrow, but I can wait till later in the week > perhaps. Please get your comments in quickly so this can be a timely release. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE > > *Libertarian Party of Louisiana Weighs In On Tax Reform Debate* > > Lafayette, Louisiana (March 26, 2013)---The Libertarian Party of Louisiana > (LPL) applauds the current plans for tax reform but says the proposals fall > far short of a serious effort. Libertarians fully support the elimination of > the barbaric and confiscatory practice of taking money earned by hard > working citizens via so-called "income taxes." However, they caution that > any serious tax reform must include reductions in bloated government spending. > > The LPL scoffs at attempts to characterize tax reform in class envy terms. > "Fairness," Libertarians contend, should never be a standard by which to > judge taxation. Instead, the party believes that a tax should be judged by > how much it negatively impacts the ability of consumers to meet their needs > with the limited resources of their paychecks and savings. A tax, notes the > LPL, needs to be as light and unobtrusive as possible so it is not a burden > upon business or consumers. "A tax on a wage or salary is outright theft of > your legitimately acquired property and is unfit for a free society," said > state chairman Adrien Monteleone. > > Mr. Monteleone also notes that, "the current hang-ups by detractors over > 'revenue neutrality' are red herrings---a socialist and progressive ploy > that is a throwback from the 1980's era efforts at national tax and spending > reform. Democrats used 'neutrality' to thwart the move to reduce bloated > government in a 'compromise' to get bills passed. This resulted in monstrous > deficits." He continues, "Cast aside the flawed idea of revenue neutrality, > and reformers can focus on raising legitimate revenue. If this is not enough > money to fund the current levels of government spending, then the obvious > next step is to reduce those bloated levels of spending. If serious spending > reform were considered, there would be no need to even raise sales tax rates > or extend the current tax base. Personal and business taxes can still be > eliminated, and it might even be possible to lower sales tax rates further." > > "Extending the base to include services is also problematic when determining > the 'final consumer' of those services as in the case of engineering, > architectural, and other fees in the construction industry. Who is the final > consumer, the architect, the builder, the contractor, the home owner? Is the > administration suggesting taxation upon taxation upon taxation?" asks Mr. > Monteleone. > > The LPL applauds the administration's effort to simplify sales tax filing > for businesses, but they suggest that sales should be taxable at the point > of sale and never at point of delivery. This would be far simpler and easier > to implement and comply with. Such a move would also provide economic > incentive for local jurisdictions to keep their sales tax rates as low as > possible. Some of these local rates alone are as high as 5-6%. > > The Libertarian Party is currently the third largest political party in > Louisiana and is the fastest growing party in the State, growing over 50% > since this time last year. The Party is currently organizing on the parish > level to begin seriously contesting local elections and will be recruiting > candidates for congressional, legislative and statewide elections over the > next two years. For more information on the LPL or its positions, visit > LPLouisiana.org. > > Contact: > Adrien Monteleone, chairman > chairman at lplouisiana.org > 337-593-8208 > ### > > -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > This message has been processed by Firetrust Benign > . > > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: chairman.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 283 bytes Desc: not available URL: From chairman at lplouisiana.org Tue Mar 26 14:00:10 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 14:00:10 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Tax Reform PRESS RELEASE - for your approval In-Reply-To: <000c01ce2a37$8ed11cc0$ac735640$@org> References: <5151513F.6020609@lplouisiana.org> <001a01ce2a22$4c058d50$e410a7f0$@org> <000001ce2a2d$e0915980$a1b40c80$@org> <3f73069cad8fc8317e6f8e4db347f4b1@lplouisiana.org> <000c01ce2a37$8ed11cc0$ac735640$@org> Message-ID: <5151F03A.9080606@lplouisiana.org> Hah, I 'might' use tantamount, but not likely in my speech, only writing. Thanks for the tweaks gentlemen, I'll work them in best I can and issue a revised draft later today. Keith, I think I'll have it ready tonight, so you can officially release it tomorrow. In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 3/26/13 10:35 AM, Membership LPL wrote: > > Looks good to me Keith. I hesitated changing any of the quotes. I wonder > would Adrien really use the word ?EUR~tantamount?EUR^(TM) in every day > talking. J > > --------------------------- > > Howard Kearney > > Membership > > *From:*scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] *On > Behalf Of *Keith Thompson > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 26, 2013 9:55 AM > *To:* scc at lplouisiana.org > *Subject:* Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Tax Reform PRESS RELEASE - for your > approval > > That's an excellent idea for a press release. I've made a few minor tweaks > as well. > > If we can get this approved soon, I'll try to get a statement about it on > the news here. The news director is leaving for the week shortly, so the > sooner the better. > > Thanks, > > Keith > > On 2013-03-26 09:26, Membership LPL wrote: > > I offer the following tweaks. I put it into MS Word so the changes will > be obvious. > > --------------------------- > > Howard Kearney > > Membership > > *From:*scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] > *On Behalf Of *T Lee Horne III > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 26, 2013 8:03 AM > *To:* 'Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors' > *Subject:* Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Tax Reform PRESS RELEASE - for > your approval > > I suggest one change, from "The LPL scoffs at attempts" to "The LPL > disagrees with attempts" > > I am not attached to the change however I feel a significant population > segment may not know what scoffs means and implies. > > If there is room, and you agree, you may want to point out that an > income tax is effectively a sales tax collected in advance of the sale. > Without an income tax almost everyone would have 30% and some would have > almost 50% more spending power and there would be no need for a second > income to support the home, pay for food, clothing and medical needs. Or > put another way there would be no need to earn $150.00 so as to have > $100.00 left to spend on goods or services. In addition the person or > company producing services would not have to charge $100.00 for the item > in order to have $75.00 to keep in their pocket. > > *T Lee Horne, III* > > Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA > > President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 > > Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 > > Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 > > tleehorneiii at gmail.com > > 318-542-4445 google voice > > tleehorneiii skype > > *http://bit.ly/12zAQMS* > > *From:*scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] > *On Behalf Of *Adrien Monteleone > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 26, 2013 3:42 AM > *To:* Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors > *Subject:* [LPL Board of Directors] Tax Reform PRESS RELEASE - for your > approval > > Since the Tax Reform discussion is heating up and on the agenda in a few > weeks, I'd like to issue the following press release to inject the LPL > into the debate. > > Please offer any critiques or suggestions. Also, if you'd like to take > ownership of one of the quotes, or provide your own (without adding too > much to the word count) please let me know. > > I'd like to release this tomorrow, but I can wait till later in the week > perhaps. Please get your comments in quickly so this can be a timely > release. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE > > *Libertarian Party of Louisiana Weighs In On Tax Reform Debate* > > Lafayette, Louisiana (March 26, 2013)?EUR"The Libertarian Party of > Louisiana (LPL) applauds the current plans for tax reform but says the > proposals fall far short of a serious effort. Libertarians fully support > the elimination of the barbaric and confiscatory practice of taking > money earned by hard working citizens via so-called ?EURoeincome > taxes.?EUR? However, they caution that any serious tax reform must > include reductions in bloated government spending. > > The LPL scoffs at attempts to characterize tax reform in class envy > terms. ?EURoeFairness,?EUR? Libertarians contend, should never be a > standard by which to judge taxation. Instead, the party believes that a > tax should be judged by how much it negatively impacts the ability of > consumers to meet their needs with the limited resources of their > paychecks and savings. A tax, notes the LPL, needs to be as light and > unobtrusive as possible so it is not a burden upon business or > consumers. ?EURoeA tax on a wage or salary is outright theft of your > legitimately acquired property and is unfit for a free society,?EUR? > said state chairman Adrien Monteleone. > > Mr. Monteleone also notes that, ?EURoethe current hang-ups by detractors > over ?EUR~revenue neutrality?EUR^(TM) are red herrings?EUR"a socialist > and progressive ploy that is a throwback from the 1980?EUR^(TM)s era > efforts at national tax and spending reform. Democrats used > ?EUR~neutrality?EUR^(TM) to thwart the move to reduce bloated government > in a ?EUR~compromise?EUR^(TM) to get bills passed. This resulted in > monstrous deficits.?EUR? He continues, ?EURoeCast aside the flawed idea > of revenue neutrality, and reformers can focus on raising legitimate > revenue. If this is not enough money to fund the current levels of > government spending, then the obvious next step is to reduce those > bloated levels of spending. If serious spending reform were considered, > there would be no need to even raise sales tax rates or extend the > current tax base. Personal and business taxes can still be eliminated, > and it might even be possible to lower sales tax rates further.?EUR? > > ?EURoeExtending the base to include services is also problematic when > determining the ?EUR~final consumer?EUR^(TM) of those services as in the > case of engineering, architectural, and other fees in the construction > industry. Who is the final consumer, the architect, the builder, the > contractor, the home owner? Is the administration suggesting taxation > upon taxation upon taxation??EUR? asks Mr. Monteleone. > > The LPL applauds the administration?EUR^(TM)s effort to simplify sales > tax filing for businesses, but they suggest that sales should be taxable > at the point of sale and never at point of delivery. This would be far > simpler and easier to implement and comply with. Such a move would also > provide economic incentive for local jurisdictions to keep their sales > tax rates as low as possible. Some of these local rates alone are as > high as 5-6%. > > The Libertarian Party is currently the third largest political party in > Louisiana and is the fastest growing party in the State, growing over > 50% since this time last year. The Party is currently organizing on the > parish level to begin seriously contesting local elections and will be > recruiting candidates for congressional, legislative and statewide > elections over the next two years. For more information on the LPL or > its positions, visit LPLouisiana.org. > > Contact: > Adrien Monteleone, chairman > chairman at lplouisiana.org > 337-593-8208 > ### > > -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > This message has been processed by Firetrust Benign > . > > _______________________________________________ > > SCC mailing list > > SCC at lplouisiana.org > > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > -- > > LPL Logo > > > > *Keith Thompson* > /Communications Officer/ > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > media at lplouisiana.org > LPLouisiana.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: chairman.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 283 bytes Desc: not available URL: From chairman at lplouisiana.org Wed Mar 27 16:36:32 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 16:36:32 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Tax Reform PRESS RELEASE - for your approval In-Reply-To: References: <1364298856.96014.YahooMailClassic@web181603.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <51536660.4020101@lplouisiana.org> Thanks to everyone for their input. I've incorporated some of these changes, and made a few others. If your change didn't make it in this time, I plan to do a follow up release in a couple of weeks as we get closer to the legislative session and will work them in to that one. Keith - the attached copy is ready for publication - please dissiminate it far and wide to all media outlets. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 03/26/2013 07:39 AM, elections at lplouisiana.org wrote: > I like it. Good stuff. > > bws > >> If politicians were serious about day care for children, instead of just >> sloganizing about it, nothing they could do would improve the quality of >> child care more than by lifting the heavy burden of taxation that forces >> so many families to have both parents working. >> Thomas Sowell >> >> --- On Tue, 3/26/13, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >> >> >> From: Adrien Monteleone >> Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Tax Reform PRESS RELEASE - for your >> approval >> To: "Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors" >> Date: Tuesday, March 26, 2013, 2:41 AM >> >> >> >> Since the Tax Reform discussion is heating up and on the agenda in a few >> weeks, I'd like to issue the following press release to inject the LPL >> into the debate. >> >> Please offer any critiques or suggestions.? Also, if you'd like to take >> ownership of one of the quotes, or provide your own (without adding too >> much to the word count) please let me know. >> >> I'd like to release this tomorrow, but I can wait till later in the week >> perhaps.? Please get your comments in quickly so this can be a timely >> release. >> >> >> >> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE >> >> Libertarian Party of Louisiana Weighs In On Tax Reform Debate >> >> Lafayette, Louisiana (March 26, 2013)?EUR"The Libertarian Party of Louisiana >> (LPL) applauds the current plans for tax reform but says the proposals >> fall far short of a serious effort. Libertarians fully support the >> elimination of the barbaric and confiscatory practice of taking money >> earned by hard working citizens via so-called ?EURoeincome taxes.?EUR? However, >> they caution that any serious tax reform must include reductions in >> bloated government spending. >> >> The LPL scoffs at attempts to characterize tax reform in class envy terms. >> ?EURoeFairness,?EUR? Libertarians contend, should never be a standard by which >> to judge taxation. Instead, the party believes that a tax should be judged >> by how much it negatively impacts the ability of consumers to meet their >> needs with the limited resources of their paychecks and savings. A tax, >> notes the LPL, needs to be as light and unobtrusive as possible so it is >> not a burden upon business or consumers. ?EURoeA tax on a wage or salary is >> outright theft of your legitimately acquired property and is unfit for a >> free society,?EUR? said state chairman Adrien Monteleone. >> >> Mr. Monteleone also notes that, ?EURoethe current hang-ups by detractors over >> ?EUR~revenue neutrality?EUR^(TM) are red herrings?EUR"a socialist and progressive >> ploy that is a throwback from the 1980?EUR^(TM)s era efforts at national tax and >> spending reform. Democrats used ?EUR~neutrality?EUR^(TM) to thwart the move to >> reduce bloated government in a ?EUR~compromise?EUR^(TM) to get bills passed. This >> resulted in monstrous deficits.?EUR? He continues, ?EURoeCast aside the flawed >> idea of revenue neutrality, and reformers can focus on raising legitimate >> revenue. If this is not enough money to fund the current levels of >> government spending, then the obvious next step is to reduce those bloated >> levels of spending. If serious spending reform were considered, there >> would be no need to even raise sales tax rates or extend the current tax >> base. Personal and business taxes can still be eliminated, and it might >> even be possible to lower sales tax rates further.?EUR? >> >> ?EURoeExtending the base to include services is also problematic when >> determining the ?EUR~final consumer?EUR^(TM) of those services as in the case of >> engineering, architectural, and other fees in the construction industry. >> Who is the final consumer, the architect, the builder, the contractor, the >> home owner? Is the administration suggesting taxation upon taxation upon >> taxation??EUR? asks Mr. Monteleone. >> >> The LPL applauds the administration?EUR^(TM)s effort to simplify sales tax >> filing for businesses, but they suggest that sales should be taxable at >> the point of sale and never at point of delivery. This would be far >> simpler and easier to implement and comply with. Such a move would also >> provide economic incentive for local jurisdictions to keep their sales tax >> rates as low as possible. Some of these local rates alone are as high as >> 5-6%. >> >> The Libertarian Party is currently the third largest political party in >> Louisiana and is the fastest growing party in the State, growing over 50% >> since this time last year. The Party is currently organizing on the parish >> level to begin seriously contesting local elections and will be recruiting >> candidates for congressional, legislative and statewide elections over the >> next two years. For more information on the LPL or its positions, visit >> LPLouisiana.org. >> >> Contact: >> Adrien Monteleone, chairman >> chairman at lplouisiana.org >> 337-593-8208 >> ### >> >> -- >> In Liberty, >> >> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >> >> -----Inline Attachment Follows----- >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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This communication is in compliance with your march 30th deadline. Included is a recording of our last meeting for your review. On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 4:02 PM, T Lee Horne III >wrote: > Adrien Monteleone wrote, On 3/7/2013 2:44 AM: > Officer reports are due no later than March 30th.**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *T Lee Horne, III* > > Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA**** > > President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 **** > > Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012**** > > Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 > **** > > tleehorneiii at gmail.com **** > > 318-542-4445 google voice**** > > tleehorneiii skype**** > > *http://bit.ly/12zAQMS* > > ** ** > -- Scott A. Lewis, III - "A Paladin for the People" Chairman, Scott A. Lewis, III & Associates, LLC Publisher: Lewisiana News PMA - Promotions, Marketing & Advertising Louisiana Governor 2015 225-284-7148 (225) 364-WORK (9675) -- Scott A. 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I am now including the rest of you in this discussion because this has grown beyond any attempt to handle this matter quietly and without full attention of the Board. Please scroll down and read from the bottom up for the proper order of the thread. You will see why I felt it necessary, since everyone is now personally involved, that I chose to include the entire Board. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ What case does he intend to bring in a court? There is nothing illegal about an organization attempting to remove a member or disciplining a member. Is the involvement of the NAACP mean he is alleging he can't be subject to disciplinary procedures because of his skin color? Is he alleging he can never be removed from office through the rules and the procedures in Robert's because of his skin color? No cause for relief from a court exists as of today. No action has been taken by the Board against him. Allegations are being investigated. There has not yet been a trial nor any decision been made. He has not been harmed in any way, and certainly not publicly. This information is strictly within the confines of the Board members. Is he alleging just the mere investigation is an injury to him? Is a private organization powerless to investigate allegations against one of its members? Is he alleging this powerlessness is simply due to his skin color? Recall, one of the allegations is an unsubstantiated claim of racism against a fellow Board member. By threatening legal action on such grounds, and for things which are according to our By-laws and accordingly under Robert's Rules of Order as our Parliamentary authority, within the Board's prerogative to engage in, he is in fact, making a blatant unsubstantiated claim of racism. He is outright claiming that rightful action and behavior by the Party is inherently racist, simply because of his skin color, thus falsely claiming that he is not and can never be subject to any such procedures or subject to enforcement of any rules or By-laws because of his skin color. He just added another specification to his charges. And you just provided the evidence with his quote. And this time, it isn't against just one or two members, he is now claiming the entire Board is racist just for the mere "crime" that some of them sit on the Board. Recall, other Board members have not signed on to these charges. No one, not even the Secretary has weighed in or commented on them. And no such comments would even be appropriate at this time. (as I think everyone recognizes) I made it clear that a committee was appointed to investigate the veracity of the charges. Thus it is apparent, their status as fact is not yet decided and no opinion should be offered on such until the committee issues its report. Thus he is accusing everyone, who simply received notice as he has, of being racist for their mere presence on the Board, and is threatening them with legal action on such grounds. His legal counsel would do well to reconsider, as would he, so as not to be sanctioned by any court of law for bringing a frivolous suit. There's not much harsher a rebuke a court can issue an attorney beyond declaring their suit "frivolous." Alleging a crime and demanding relief from a court, on the grounds that members of the Board are merely members of the Board is a good candidate for such a rebuke and dismissal of such a case "with prejudice." (which is a legal term meaning "don't ever bring this before this court again, as it will be dismissed outright without being considered. And this is not appeal-able and will not be reconsidered.") Not only will this cause the Investigative Committee to add this to its specification list, I doubt highly that it will engender him any votes in support of his non-guilt or encourage anyone to give deference and vote to retain him in his office. If his fate wasn't already sealed by a potentially long list of improper actions if they are verified, this one action on his part, which now the entire Board is aware of, may be sufficient to secure his removal, and likely now expulsion and life-time banishment from the party. Lawsuits are an act of government force. As Libertarians, we do not believe in initiating force to solve our disputes. In fact, we find it reprehensible. We do of course allow for self-defense, or the proper seeking of redress for previous injury or use of force by someone else upon us. Since no force has been used against Mr. Lewis, no any injury committed upon him, and since an organization has every right and power to protect itself from members it deems are harmful or destructive to its purpose, and since the Board has not even heard all of the evidence or taken any official decision on the allegations, Mr. Lewis' threat of the use of force might well constitute an initial use, and would therefore be about as un-Libertarian as one can muster without actually using direct physical violence against someone. This may well provide the justification for penalties of expulsion and life-time banishment. Mr. Lewis is making it clear by such threats that he has zero interest in the Party and no concern for its purposes, or even respect for its most basic tenet. As chairman, I will not allow this process to be turned into a round robin circus of threats. The Board has to follow the procedures in Robert's Rules and our By-Laws, and so does the accused. He will be given ample opportunity to defend himself against any charges brought against him, if the investigators bring any, the Board will then deliberate according to Robert's on the question of guilt and the appropriate disciplinary measures if he is found guilty. I will also not allow this Board to be intimidated, in any way shape or form, especially via threats of lawsuits for conducting themselves according to our established and accepted By-Laws, Rules, and Parliamentary Authority and certainly not for merely being members of the Board. Mr. Lewis VOLUNTEERED for this position and has served on this Board since April 2008, and in his current capacity since September 2008. The rules and procedures have never been secret from him. He has even voted, on the record at conventions, to adopt the present By-laws which we all now serve under. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I hereby declare that it is the opinion of the Chair that such threats and behavior on Mr. Lewis' part are entirely OUT OF ORDER and remonstrate him to not only refrain from making any such further threats or making such similar speech or comments, or taking any action upon such words and threats, but call upon his IMMEDIATE, UNCONDITIONAL, and UNEQUIVOCAL apology to ALL Board members. Since this infraction occurred outside of a meeting, but one that now the entire Board is aware of, according to the procedures as outlined in ?61 of Robert's Rules of Order, I, as Chairman of the Board, hereby instruct the Investigative Committee to add to their list of Specifications under Charge 3 - Unethical Conduct or whichever charge, or an additional charge if they see fit, the aforementioned threats of use of government force against the Board in general and a single member in particular, AND a Specification, under whatever charge, or an additional charge, as they see fit, for the unsubstantiated claims or insinuation of racism upon the entire Board or any of them, simply for being on the Board, and for actions not yet taken, said actions being within the prerogative of the Board under its right to discipline its members and protect itself from members whom it deems dangerous or destructive to itself and/or its purposes. In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 3/28/13 2:24 PM, T Lee Horne III wrote: > > Adrien, > > I spoke with Scott Lewis at length just now. He is quite angry now. He has > been talking with his friends who are, as friends will be, very much in his > corner and they are not helping me calm him down. One of his friends is a > lawyer and is suggesting pro bono legal action against Reed personally and > the party in general. I'll need at least another over night to work on > calming this down. > > It may not calm down, in which case there will be blood in fields so to > speak. Reed will have won a very pyrrhic victory. It will cost him all he > has and all he may ever get just in legal fees. This could easily turn into > an NAACP vs. Libertarian Party of Louisiana State Central Committee battle. > There are a lot more of members at the NAACP than there are at the LPLA. Can > the treasury take this risk? > > As Scott said, "They formed the mob, they brought the rope and they are > looking for a tree and I'm going to defend myself." > > *T Lee Horne, III* > > Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA > > President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 > > Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 > > Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 > > tleehorneiii at gmail.com > > 318-542-4445 google voice > > tleehorneiii skype > > *http://bit.ly/12zAQMS*** > > *From:*Adrien Monteleone [mailto:chairman at lplouisiana.org] > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 27, 2013 1:57 PM > *To:* Paladin at LPLouisiana.org > *Subject:* Re: Internal party foolishness. > > ... > > The Investigative Committee already has plans to talk to Scott once they > were informed he had received the official notice. > > (has he received it yet?) > > But certainly, they can do so now regardless. > > Charges do not have to be officially brought. They haven't even finished > investigating yet. > > This suggestion is perfectly within the framework of Robert's. > > I'll inform the Investigative Committee at once so they can contact Scott > and get this over with. > > If he resigns - and certainly if he does so to focus on the campaign, the > committee can simply drop the matter and return "no bill" as you suggest > since the issue would be a moot point. > > I wouldn't have him address the charges directly in any letter of > resignation though. They aren't public outside of the Board and never will > be. But his resignation will be official record if someone wants to read > it. Best to leave it speaking only of his campaign reasons. If he feels > compelled to say something in some fashion otherwise, perhaps the usual > artful phrases "differences of vision/opinion" or "irreconcilable > differences" would be best. > > If however, he waits too long and we have to proceed with a trial before he > offers to resign, the Board under Robert's can refuse the resignation as > affecting the trial and proceed anyway. Our By-laws state his resignation > is always effective without the need for acceptance, and this would still be > true, but the Board could proceed with the trial, still vote on guilt or > innocence, and still vote to impose other penalties or sanctions. The > sooner the resignation is offered the better. > > ... > > In Liberty,? ? ? Adrien Monteleone - Chairman? Libertarian Party of Louisiana? > > On 3/27/13 5:47 AM, T Lee Horne III wrote: > > Adrien, > > I sent the following to Scott Lewis this morning. > > Scott, > > ... > > I'm thinking it may be time to end the BS and go your own way. It's just > a matter of negotiation. To me the issue is clearing the charges with a > rebuttal and a resignation all at the same time in the same letter. That > will give you a clean exit and if the investigating tribunal will > return "No Bill" as in no charges you resign with a clean and clear > name. What say you? > > =========================== > > Adrien, do you think this can be done on the side of the party? I know > Scott wants to be able to say he resigned because he found his campaign > needed more attention and he did not feel he could effectively be > vice-chairman and run a full time campaign. I know we are bending things > a little and that is the art and science of political negotiation. > > *T Lee Horne, III* > > Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA > > President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 > > Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 > > Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 > > tleehorneiii at gmail.com > > 318-542-4445 Google voice > > tleehorneiii Skype > > *http://bit.ly/12zAQMS* > > This message has been processed by Firetrust Benign > . > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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(not sure which is the correct term as I'm sadly not versed in the differences, since I don't bother to even consider such things as important - we are Libertarians after all. But the caucus thought it something to celebrate) Two of their members are women. They consist of an entrepreneur and business owner, a community organizer and sports coach, a graduate professor in psychology and radio personality, a former U.S. Navy man who was assigned to submarine duty, a NOLA city government employee, a law student and former congressional candidate, and our own Wendy Adams. They already have plans to appoint more members and additional officers than the required 6, as well as plans to flesh out sub-committees for various duties and tasks. They intend to take NOLA by storm and I have full confidence they will do so, and in short order. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Howard, As noted, the attachment didn't come through, but I'm sure it contains all we need to know. Thanks to you as well for assembling all that data. (and as noted, I will provide some missing data on April 1st, so you can wait to resubmit till then) Scott, Thank you for the recording. This is a great idea for any future teleconferences for our records. It's a bit lengthy so I haven't had time to listen yet, but I hope to finish it by early next week. I'm still waiting on reports from: Media Committee Economic Development Committee Please provide a report of your activities, goals, and accomplishments to date for the Board's review and for party records as soon as possible. I want to spend our meeting time discussing and deciding future actions, rather than going over what has already been done. Otherwise, Everyone enjoy the Easter weekend if you celebrate it, or just enjoy the weekend anyway. I'll be with family from tonight through Sunday evening, and will likely not be checking email or be home at all to check phone messages. (so I won't be pestering anyone with any long diatribe of an email to respond to) Activity and business will pick up on Monday in advance of our April meeting. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: chairman.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 283 bytes Desc: not available URL: From chairman at lplouisiana.org Fri Mar 29 16:47:03 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 16:47:03 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Internal party foolishness. Express mail 3/28 letter came today. In-Reply-To: <000001ce2ca3$52d5ae70$f8810b50$@org> References: <000001ce2ad8$6d90ed00$48b2c700$@org> <515332D3.90406@lplouisiana.org> <004301ce2be9$e2caa9f0$a85ffdd0$@org> <5154A422.4080604@lplouisiana.org> <000001ce2ca3$52d5ae70$f8810b50$@org> Message-ID: <51560BD7.8040103@lplouisiana.org> I have inquired with the Secretary about the issue of the sending of the Registered letter and am awaiting a response. However, due notice was served and received according to our By-laws. Robert's States in part: "the secretary should immediately send the accused by registered mail a letter notifying him of the date, hour, and place of the trial, containing an exact copy of the charge(s) and specifications..." and also in part: "With reference to the appropriate date for which to set the trial, thirty days is a reasonable time to allow the accused to prepare his defense." Our By-Laws state: "ARTICLE 13: PARLIAMENTARY AUTHORITY Robert's Rules of Order shall be the parliamentary authority for all matters of procedure not specifically covered by these By-laws or Special Rules of the Party." Therefore, our By-Laws where they are specific to a matter or question or rule, supersede Robert's. Our By-laws also state in part: "ARTICLE 15: JUDICIAL MATTERS 1. Disciplinary action against any Party members shall be provided in accordance with Robert's Rules of Order *except as provided herein.* 2. Officers and other State Central Committee members may be removed for cause by a two-thirds majority vote of all members of the State Central Committee. *1. The charges against any offending officer must be fully stated in the call for any State Central Committee meeting at which any removal action is planned.** **2. This call along with the charges must be issued 21 days preceding the meeting.* ..." Thus our By-laws specifically state that this is to be in the form of a call for a meeting. Continuing, the following are the duties of the Secretary under the By-laws: Article 7: Officers, ?1(c)(3) "perform such other duties as are prescribed in these By-laws and the Special Rules of the Party and those assigned by the Chair and/or the State Central Committee; " And combined with Article 8: State Central Committee ?4 "The State Central Committee shall meet in the manner, times, and places prescribed in the Special Rules." Referring now to the Special Rules: Rule 7: State Central Committee ?1 "The State Central Committee shall meet: *a. at such times and places as may be determined by action of the Committee*, b. by call of the Chairman, *c. by call of the Secretary,* or d. by the written request of one-eighth of the actual members of the Committee." The April 13th meeting is being held per subsection (a) under approved motion by the Chair to adopt a calendar for the entire term of the SCC passed in 2012. The executive judicial session was added to the agenda of this meeting, per subsection(c) and emailed to the entire Board per the 21 day requirement. (as a "call" for a session dealing with "judicial matters") Mr. Lewis has received this email in his inbox along with everyone else as of March 22nd 8:39 pm according to our email server logs.(the version sent from the Secretary's address) The email server's logs also indicate this message has been "viewed" by Mr. Lewis. I have archived copies of both the server message log and the email itself from his inbox, as well as a document from the creators of the mail server software indicating the "viewed" or "seen" flag as they call it, which shows that the mail was in fact "read" by Mr. Lewis. (though he may not have read it entirely, the same could be true of a printed copy. Evidence of service and receipt is the issue, not his literal reading of the notice) Additionally, your emails to me, as of October 2012, and my own telephone conversation with Mr. Lewis on most of these matters specifically, attest to his knowledge of these allegations for many months. I would not counsel anyone to hide behind nuances of parliamentary procedure on the issue of "due notice" when Mr. Lewis has been aware for many months now that there are members of this board that have intended to move for removal on these grounds. The allegations are not "new" to him. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Therefore it is the opinion of the Chair that, the combination of Mr. Lewis' prior knowledge of most of these allegations, and the electronic record of his service and receipt of this notice, meets our rule for due notice of a "call" for a judicial session on disciplinary matters, and that the accused has in no way been short changed any days to prepare his defense. Furthermore the Chair rules the claim of dereliction of duty on the part of the Secretary, and the proposal of charges (since it is not an official motion) based on the above opinion, to be OUT OF ORDER. The Chair entreats the member who made them to refrain in the future from making such claims of any other member unless in the form of a motion to begin a formal investigation according to Robert's and our By-Laws as is presently being conducted in the case of the Vice-Chairman. The Chair further reminds the member, the accused, and the entire Board that this call was issued only to Board members and does not constitute an "open to everyone email." Additionally, since an investigative committee has been appointed, and the preference to bring charges or not is theirs, the matter now rests in their hands. The committee will not be dissolved otherwise, short of resignation of the accused from his office as indicated in other communications, and the accused remains suspended in his duties. Accordingly, no apology from anyone is in order as requested. Finally, the Chair rules that if the above ruling on due notice is challenged and the challenge is upheld by a proper vote of the requisite number of Board members, that this shall not invalidate the process or proceedings, but shall merely effectuate a call by the Chairman, upon the conclusion of the Investigative Committee's work, for a special State Central Committee meeting to be held for the express purpose of holding an executive session judicial hearing on these matters, with sufficient time to meet the rule requirements if those requirements have been deemed by the Board in such a challenge to have not been met. In short, a challenge will only slightly delay the inevitable hearing and cause the Board members to travel for an additional session at additional personal expense, rather than attend these matters at an already scheduled meeting of which all involved, including the accused, had notice of on March 22nd, being 22 days prior to the April 13th meeting. In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 3/29/13 12:32 PM, T Lee Horne III wrote: > > Mr. Chairman, > > I believe the time line for the consideration of the allegations must be > changed and another meeting must be called but that causes problems in that > the notification says the meeting? to consider all this is specified for > April 13. ? A letter was signed for today, postage charge was $19.95 > postmarked yesterday March 28. If I understand previous information, Mr. > Lewis has 21 days from the date a REGISTERED letter is mailed. > > Due the dereliction of duty by the secretary of the party. I think the > entire procedure must be voided as the party has failed to abide by its own > rules and time line. In addition I propose charges against the Secretary for > such dereliction of duty and for causing great cost in time and travel > expense to the members and great mental anguish to the accused as well as > members of the party who had to deal with this fiasco. > > In as much as the whole proceeds are void I insist on a formal letter > notifying everyone that the proceeding mentioned in the open to everyone > email have been withdrawn and notice that the Vice-Chairman has NOT been > suspend from his office nor his duties. I believe an apology by those > responsible for this fiasco is in order. > > *T Lee Horne, III* > > Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA > > President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 > > Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 > > Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 > > tleehorneiii at gmail.com > > 318-542-4445 google voice > > tleehorneiii skype > > *http://bit.ly/12zAQMS* > > *From:*Adrien Monteleone [mailto:chairman at lplouisiana.org] > *Sent:* Thursday, March 28, 2013 4:12 PM > *To:* Paladin at LPLouisiana.org > *Subject:* Re: Internal party foolishness. > > I'm off to NOLA for the Orleans caucus. > > I'll reply more later tonight. > > Did he get the notice yet? Reed is going to track it to find out where it is. > > -- In Liberty,? ? ? Adrien Monteleone - Chairman? Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > On 03/28/2013 02:24 PM, T Lee Horne III wrote: > > Adrien, > > I spoke with Scott Lewis at length just now. He is quite angry now. He > has been talking with his friends who are, as friends will be, very much > in his corner and they are not helping me calm him down. One of his > friends is a lawyer and is suggesting pro bono legal action against Reed > personally and the party in general. I'll need at least another over > night to work on calming this down. > > It may not calm down, in which case there will be blood in fields so to > speak. Reed will have won a very pyrrhic victory. It will cost him all > he has and all he may ever get just in legal fees. This could easily > turn into an NAACP vs. Libertarian Party of Louisiana State Central > Committee battle. There are a lot more of members at the NAACP than > there are at the LPLA. Can the treasury take this risk? > > As Scott said, "They formed the mob, they brought the rope and they are > looking for a tree and I'm going to defend myself." > > *T Lee Horne, III* > > Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA > > President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 > > Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 > > Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 > > tleehorneiii at gmail.com > > 318-542-4445 google voice > > tleehorneiii skype > > *http://bit.ly/12zAQMS* > > *From:*Adrien Monteleone [mailto:chairman at lplouisiana.org] > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 27, 2013 1:57 PM > *To:* Paladin at LPLouisiana.org > *Subject:* Re: Internal party foolishness. > > That is most excellent tune-age for nearly any occasion, but I oddly > want a glass of scotch and a smoldering fire just thinking about them. > > The Investigative Committee already has plans to talk to Scott once they > were informed he had received the official notice. > > (has he received it yet?) > > But certainly, they can do so now regardless. > > Charges do not have to be officially brought. They haven't even > finished investigating yet. > > This suggestion is perfectly within the framework of Robert's. > > I'll inform the Investigative Committee at once so they can contact > Scott and get this over with. > > If he resigns - and certainly if he does so to focus on the campaign, > the committee can simply drop the matter and return "no bill" as you > suggest since the issue would be a moot point. > > I wouldn't have him address the charges directly in any letter of > resignation though. They aren't public outside of the Board and never > will be. But his resignation will be official record if someone wants > to read it. Best to leave it speaking only of his campaign reasons. If > he feels compelled to say something in some fashion otherwise, perhaps > the usual artful phrases "differences of vision/opinion" or > "irreconcilable differences" would be best. > > If however, he waits too long and we have to proceed with a trial before > he offers to resign, the Board under Robert's can refuse the resignation > as affecting the trial and proceed anyway. Our By-laws state his > resignation is always effective without the need for acceptance, and > this would still be true, but the Board could proceed with the trial, > still vote on guilt or innocence, and still vote to impose other > penalties or sanctions. The sooner the resignation is offered the better. > > Sorry you didn't get any sleep last night either. This mess has been > taking up many hours of my time preparing everything for the judicial > session, on top regular duties. I'll be more than happy if we can drop it. > > In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > On 3/27/13 5:47 AM, T Lee Horne III wrote: > > Adrien, > > I sent the following to Scott Lewis this morning. > > Scott, > > I spent all my sleep time last night with these two songs playing in > my head: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGwCP2hX2FM > and > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAbY2cmEsS0 > > I'm thinking it may be time to end the BS and go your own way. It's > just a matter of negotiation. To me the issue is clearing the > charges with a rebuttal and a resignation all at the same time in > the same letter. That will give you a clean exit and if the > investigating tribunal will return "No Bill" as in no charges you > resign with a clean and clear name. What say you? > > =========================== > > Adrien, do you think this can be done on the side of the party? I > know Scott wants to be able to say he resigned because he found his > campaign needed more attention and he did not feel he could > effectively be vice-chairman and run a full time campaign. I know we > are bending things a little and that is the art and science of > political negotiation. > > *T Lee Horne, III* > > Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA > > President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 > > Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 > > Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign > 2003-2007 > > tleehorneiii at gmail.com > > 318-542-4445 Google voice > > tleehorneiii Skype > > *http://bit.ly/12zAQMS* > > This message has been processed by Firetrust Benign > . > > This message has been processed by Firetrust Benign > . > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: chairman.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 283 bytes Desc: not available URL: From elections at lplouisiana.org Fri Mar 29 17:25:22 2013 From: elections at lplouisiana.org (Boyd Wayne Smith) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 17:25:22 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Orleans Caucus Recap In-Reply-To: <5155EEF9.40800@lplouisiana.org> References: <5155EEF9.40800@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <0d730b47ea0948a65fdef1b6827ebe02.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> I am looking so forward to meeting the Jefferson Parish LP based upon these types of stories. I plan on having paper copies of the parish positions for those people who are representing the PECs. Out of over 2900 positions, if we can win in just 1% of those races we will have done something spectacular in politics. Many of these races will be by acclamation. Ask Mr. Randall Hayes and Mr. Michael Riffe. Boyd W. Smith Elections Officer > The caucus was fantastic. There were 30 members from Orleans present and > voting, and an additional 10 or so people from other parishes as guest and > observers. > > 12 excellent candidates vied for 7 spots and the strongest core was > chosen. > One of the 5 who was not chosen for the PEC was reserved by the Caucus and > selected as Orleans Rep to the Board. He will be a very active and strong > representative for them. > > Additionally, this PEC is quite diverse as was the group in general. Of > the > seven PEC members, one is African-American and one is Latino/Hispanic. > Their > Parish Rep is Latino/Hispanic as well. (not sure which is the correct term > as > I'm sadly not versed in the differences, since I don't bother to even > consider > such things as important - we are Libertarians after all. But the caucus > thought it something to celebrate) Two of their members are women. > > They consist of an entrepreneur and business owner, a community organizer > and > sports coach, a graduate professor in psychology and radio personality, a > former U.S. Navy man who was assigned to submarine duty, a NOLA city > government employee, a law student and former congressional candidate, and > our > own Wendy Adams. > > They already have plans to appoint more members and additional officers > than > the required 6, as well as plans to flesh out sub-committees for various > duties and tasks. They intend to take NOLA by storm and I have full > confidence they will do so, and in short order. > > -- > In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > From media at lplouisiana.org Sat Mar 30 12:05:17 2013 From: media at lplouisiana.org (Keith Thompson) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 12:05:17 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Media Report for 2nd Quarter Board Meeting Message-ID: <96a281aab6f95fc1d6c09aec2ebc62ca@lplouisiana.org> Please find attached the communications report for the upcoming Board Meeting. In Liberty, KEITH THOMPSON _Communications Officer_ Libertarian Party of Louisiana media at lplouisiana.org LPLouisiana.org [1] Links: ------ [1] http://www.lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Reed Ebarb If you have not already done so, please consider becoming a dues member of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana by visiting louisianalibertarian.net