From Paladin at LPLouisiana.org Mon Apr 1 09:06:19 2013 From: Paladin at LPLouisiana.org (T Lee Horne III) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 10:06:19 -0400 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Internal party foolishness. In-Reply-To: <5155EB15.5040202@lplouisiana.org> References: <000001ce2ad8$6d90ed00$48b2c700$@org> <515332D3.90406@lplouisiana.org> <004301ce2be9$e2caa9f0$a85ffdd0$@org> <5155EB15.5040202@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: Preamble Today, those that wish to establish global control use religion, ethnicity, sexuality, politics, income gaps and more to keep people seeing each other as the enemy when the real enemy is Big Government. If you truly wish to combat the ones trying to establish and entrench themselves as the ruling elite of the globe, all it takes is loving kindness towards your fellow human beings. Even if you do not agree with all of their opinions. Support their earthly right to have it and turn your aim towards the true enemy of the people, Big Government in all its forms. Only together can we defeat the true enemy of individual liberty, freedom and civil rights. Discussion I observe that the Chairman has seen fit to bring the entire group into this and pass on confidential communications between the two of us, part of which he has used in his publication of additional charge against the Vice Chairman and which is included in this chain of communication. I have now to bring you all up to speed on these charges and actions, in a time line going back to last year. Attached in line at the end of my reply, you will find two, one from October of last year and one from this current hearing. The email that Adrien chose to share with you all follows those in line attachments. The one from last year was circulated surreptitiously by the Chairman. I found out about it because one member who despises secret attacks and actions forwarded me a copy. I wrote a reply and out of courtesy sent it by email confidentially to the Chairman. Now seems the time to present this as evidence of the witch hunt that is being apparently supported by the current Chairman through his straw man the Secretary/Treasurer. These attached in line documents are copied and presented with as delivered with typos included. Likewise all directly quoted text is presented as written. Here is where I caution you, do not believe a phone call or personal talk with the chairman will be honored. Insist all discussions be in writing or with a witness taking notes in some way. The chairman spoke with me over the phone and in some email as well, which may be brought forward later. The Chairman assured me that the bogus list of outright lies, and petty charges amounting to character assassination were the work of one or two men. The Chairman never did name the men and the possible reason will become apparent to all of you as you read both the October 2012, the current bill of charges and the included by the Chairman formerly confidential communications I was involved with in my now futile attempt to make peace. The Chairman has taken my attempts to keep this calm and find a way out. He as poured gasoline of the fire. I will not sit by quietly and allow his agenda to go forward. The chairman assured me the October charges were dropped because he determined there was not enough support to bring the charges much less convict on those charges, yet here the charges are brought once again. It's as though I am dealing with a person who will bring up every long past and resolved transgression at any time to beat on those old long ago resolved transgressions. This is exactly the same. Good people of the State Central Committee, prejudice is insidious, it is evidenced by a pattern of behavior more than by any one single act. Often times the one or ones acting in a racially prejudice way are so ingrained into the behavior in their own culture they may not even realize that the behavior and attitude is unacceptable in the rest of society. Maybe we should consider whether we have this problem in the party or in the committees. And we must look at whether that is in any way affecting any of our actions. Once again, I leave the final determination to you. Look closely at the pattern of behavior in evidence by the petty nature of the charges, by the vague unspecific nature of many of the charges, by the double standard of behavior of those charges. Who in here has not asked question of a group as to the possibility of being reimbursed for expenses? Who in here has not thought of and brought up potential ways for a group to raise funds for the group. Look at the vagueness of the charges made with regard to the fundraising proposals and wonder to yourselves what is really going on. Remember, racists and bigots have gotten quite good at not directly using the "N" word and claiming fairness, equality of treatment and magnanimous actions, all the while subtly acting to undermine the black people who dare to aspire to leadership or any improvement in any area of life. We all must examine ourselves closely and continually to determine whether we are doing these things ourselves. In communications prior to the last communication the Chairman said that the Vice-Chairman had 21 days from the date postmarked on a Registered letter to respond to the charges. I will quote directly from his email to me dated March 23, 2013 . Furthermore, I have strong issue with the manner in which the charges were delivered. "I advised according to Robert's Rules and our By-Laws that 21 day notice of any charges and the specific counts for each has to be made to each member to call a judicial session. (which accordingly I was asked to put on the agenda) That notice should have been sent registered mail to the accused, and mailed to the remaining members. I don't know if they are in the hands of the postal service already or not." When that letter never came, perhaps because it was never sent, a letter postmarked 3-28 came, I wrote to the Chairman that the time line was violated and the hearing could not be held April 13. Now the Chairman says the email is sufficient and he can prove that the Vice-Chairman received the email. Think about this, the rule is now changed on the delivery of notice AND the Chairman can prove the Vice-Chairman received the email. So the Chairman implies he has 'Bugs' in his emails that he sends out to all of us. "Bugs" that none of us were aware of and none of us agreed to. Now we know why he insists all of us must use only the official email system. Additionally the Chairman requires one set of rules for the accused and another set of rules for the Chairman and the party. This is appears as high handed and unpleasant as much of the actions by the National Republican Committee during the Ron Paul campaign. I have all of these written communications downloaded to my personal computer because the Chairman has direct access to all of our email accounts and may at any time delete or change anything in any of our accounts as well as bar any of us from access to their email account and who knows what other unknown and unsuspected powers he holds over our communications. I suggest you, too, may want to protect yourselves by keeping your own copy of communications that pass through the official party email system. I know this is getting long but just by way of example as to what could possibly happen just from postings on Facebook, if we allow this to proceed. I have written the following, remember this could be anyone of us. These are just examples, this could never come up as this person has already resigned. This is just an example of how any malicious person could proceed. So let's decide now not to conduct the party in this way. ========================== Charge one: Breach of confidentiality, conduct unbecoming, violations of ethics. The evidence of this charge is below where Reed Ebarb and his co conspirators, Mitch Dufour and Daniel Hayes, discuss in open forum his intentional and malicious act of bringing the petty an malicious charges with the intent of "Time for heads to roll." As you can see from the time line this was IMMEDIATELY after his resignation. Reed Ebarb boasted of his intent to cause trouble in public on FB. Starting a conversation on the subject. March 19 via mobile Time for heads to roll. ? with Daniel Hayes. Like ? ? Share Mitch Dufour ???.......... March 19 at 11:05pm ? Like Reed Ebarb You'll have to call for the details on this one March 19 at 11:05pm via mobile ? March 19 =========================== Charge two: Breach of Ethics and Conduct Unbecoming an officer of the State Central Committee by attempting to solicit business for his new start up business under the guise of a self centered self promoting Resignation Letter. Such letter was also published in the open on Facebook. See below: Reed Ebarb March 19 Dear Fellow Libertarian, After serving with the Libertarian Party of Louisiana since April of 2012, I have decided it is time for me to resign. I have made the decision to start my own animal rescue in Shreveport and due to this, I can?t serve on the board of directors of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana any longer. When I was elected to the LPL board, we had only a few members, no income, and no candidates. I spent most of 2012 recruiting congressional candidates, recruiting members, and raising money. When it was all said and done, we had 2 elected Libertarians and 5 congressional candidates. We raised more money in 4 months than the party had raised in the last few years combined. It was a tough year but by the end of 2012, many were talking about the resurgence of Libertarians in Louisiana. Today, the LPL operates on a budget of more than $20,000, has a full board of directors, has grown over 50%, and is already getting inquiries from candidates wanting to run for office in 2014. We have come a very long way in only a year and I am extremely proud to leave the party much stronger and much larger than I found it. I am proud of each and every one of you for everything we have done together. The party is larger than ever and still growing. Although I must leave the board of directors, I hope to still hope to volunteer where possible. I hope to slowly pass along all of my work and lessons learned to one or more successors. I truly wish everyone the best and I can always be reached on my cell phone. I will be resigning after the April meeting to allow for a succession plan to be formed. In Liberty, Reed Ebarb Secretary, Interim Treasurer =============================== Charge three: Conduct unbecoming a SCC board member, poking fun at another person's religion as evidenced by his very public comment on Facebook in his timeline. Again as evidenced below: Reed Ebarb February 11 I am formally declaring my candidacy to be the next Pope. I look forward to ruling over my Catholic subjects. ============================== Charge four: Conduct unbecoming a SCC board member, threatening and advocating the use of violence against another human to solve a personal issue. As evidenced below on his Facebook time line, see the following: Reed Ebarb January 21 Some guy pulled up at the shelter today with 4 dogs in the car and he was holding a baseball to apparently "keep them in line". If I hadn't been at work I would have taken that baseball bat and beat that little mother fucker to within an inch of his life. See how he likes being kept in line. =============================== Charge five: Dereliction of duty, failure to mail the registered letter to the Vice-Chairman in a timely manner. Thus, if the rules earlier sent by the Chairman are to be followed, causing a Second SCC special board meeting to be called to discuss the proposed charges. And thus costing the members of the SCC great expense in time and money go attend said special meeting. As evidenced below from his letter to the Chairman and the SCC: "This is a very quick heads up to everyone that my report will be a bit delayedd, as will my responses to several emails. I have recently become involved in legal preceedings in Shreveport and I also went through a tornado yesterday at the animal shelter where I work so therefore, I imagine I will be working the next week straight. If it is urgemt. please call me. Otherwise, I will respond and finish a report ASAP." ================================ I remind you, I bring this to you to show you what could happen in the future if we allow this witch hunt to proceed. Please not also, these charges have actual substantial evidence attached, unlike the charges brought against the Vice Chairman.. I submit that if this is to proceed, since the Vice-Chairman as defendant is being prohibited from voting on these issues, the accusers, ALL of them, the Secretary/Treasurer, and the Chairman must also be prohibited from voting on these charges. Of course determining who "ALL of them" is will require a distinct and independent investigation as some choose to hide under cover of a front man. I also as representative of the Defense, must not vote on the charges. The only people fit for the "jury" are those who have been neutral up until this point and may be expected to weight this dispassionately and fairly. Much as in a court law the judge, prosecution and the defense attorney are not allowed to weigh guilt or innocence. ================================ T Lee Horne, III Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 tleehorneiii at gmail.com 318-542-4445 google voice tleehorneiii skype http://bit.ly/12zAQMS I will now copy and paste the formerly private communication I sent. Vice-Chairman Scott A. Lewis, III asked me to respond to the initial letter as his defense. I would rather not have had to bring this forward, it is quite unpleasant but I must. ATACHMENT ONE follows. =============================================== Fellow members of the State Central Committee, I have been made aware of an email being circulated by our most esteemed and honorable Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I am disappointed in you. You decided to circulate this email accusation with malice and forethought. You chose to exclude me from the discussion and attempted to set up a kangaroo court with only your baseless innuendos and accusations. I trust the rest of the state central committee will listen with an open mind to the refutation of your specious accusations. Your actions are reprehensible and unbefitting of the office. If anyone is liable for removal from office for cause, it may be you. Fellow State Central Committee Members, It is with heavy heart and great sadness that I am forced to respond to this. None of this should ever have been committed to writing, none of this should ever have come before the committee. Our Chairman has allowed himself to succumb to a fit of moral outrage. I know not from whence his groundless anger arises. I do know that his entire diatribe is fallacious. Below is his email as circulated and my refutation, line by line. =============================================================== This is interesting and I will address some of the points that I have direct knowledge of. A - Dereliction of Duty #1 - was not present for the convention at which he was elected, and at which he was to serve as an officer, being already duly elected by the previous convention. I, in my office as Chairman at the time, discussed with Vice Chairman Scott Lewis the coming convention and determined his time would be better spent in Baton Rouge and New Orleans than at the convention. The Vice Chairman was specifically told by me, the Chairman at the time, that he did not need to attend because his time could be put to better use in Baton Rouge and New Orleans at a large NAACP event. The current Chairman could have easily determined this by a simple phone call to me yet he chose this disruptive method to bring this up as a Central Committee item. #2 - was not present for the first SCC meeting as required of his office by the LPL By-laws, preventing a quorum, causing members and officers to travel at great expense to themselves without purpose. Both Vice Chairman Scott Lewis and I were under the distinct impression from our understanding of party rules, rules we voted on that we could attend SCC meetings electronically and we were both available to attend electronically. I communicated with Reed and asked to be called so that I could attend if needed for a quorum. I asked that Scott also be called so as to attend electronically if need for quorum. After the meeting I called and spoke with Secretary Reed Ebarb. He said the Chairman had an explanation of why Vice Chairman Scott Lewis and I had not been called so that a quorum would be present but the Secretary was not able to explain the reasons. #3 - has failed to make any attempt to constitute the Strategic Planning Committee as required of his office under the LPL By-laws, making only two calls for "information" or "agenda items" but has not held a meeting, set a date for a meeting, or had any other discussion on any matter of the committee. I cannot make first hand comments on this other than note that Vice Chairman Scott Lewis and I had many long conversations as he tried to get this Committee up and running wherein the Vice Chairman expressed his frustration at not getting requested information from the Secretary and the Chairman. Vice Chairman Scott Lewis asked for the email addresses for these subcommittee chairmen and was denied these email addresses. Vice Chairman Scott Lewis was also frustrated by being told several times by the Secretary that this was not the time to contact the members of the Strategic Planning committee. I will leave it to Scott Lewis to address this issue in more detail. #4 - has failed to make any attempt to establish PECs for unorganized parishes as required of his office under the LPL By-laws. I cannot make first hand comments on this. All I have is this, I know Vice Chairman Scott Lewis was active in several attempts to form the Baton Rouge PEC because I was present at two of those formation meeting. I will leave it to Scott Lewis to address this issue more completely and directly. #5 - has not performed any duties of unorganized parishes as required of his office under the LPL By-laws. I cannot make first hand comments on this. All I have is what Scott Lewis told me he was doing. I will leave it to Scott Lewis to address this issue directly. B - Conduct unbecoming #1 - was late turning in his Affidavit of Acceptance Elector form. Whereas the first form was void in its form because the names were not correct and thus useless, this is a specious charge. #2 - failed to turn in his Affidavit of Acceptance Elector form, corrected version. Note that the first form was turned in if later than optimal still in a full timely fashion to get the party on the ballot. Phones work two ways. #3 - failed to communicate why form was not turned in on time the first time. Whereas the first form was void in its form because the names were not correct and thus useless, this is a specious charge. #4 - failed to communicate why form was not turned in the second time. Phones work two ways. It seems the most reasonable and straight forward way of dealing with this would be a phone call or series of call to inquire and discuss resolution to the problem. There seems to be a pattern of failure to communicate with the Vice Chairman by the Chairman and the Secretary. More on this at point #8. #5 - failed to display any concern for his tardiness in turning in forms. Would you have him tear the pocket off of his shirt and wail loudly Mea Culpa? Besides, I was told by more than one person the current Chairman and the current Vice Chairman had a long and private conversation after the recent SCC meeting on this subject. As to first hand information as to the discussion, I have no direct knowledge. I was under the impression all these issues had been resolved. #6 - failed to display any interest in securing the form before the deadline. Once again, I was under the impression that the current Chairman and the current Vice Chairman had a long and private conversation on this subject, in which I was under the impression all these issues had been resolved. #7 - lack of concern for known deadlines affecting ballot access. Once again, I was under the impression that the current Chairman and the current Vice Chairman had a long and private conversation on this subject, in which I was under the impression all these issues had been resolved. #8 - causing the Chair to go to great personal effort and expense to remedy his failure to file paperwork in a timely manner. Expense the Chair could have easily avoided by the simple expedient of using the telephone, calling Vice Chairman Scott Lewis, and meeting the Vice Chairman in Baton Rouge on the way to the Office of the Secretary of State. For some reason unknown and unfathomable to me the Chair decided to instead have another person sign the form thus requiring the Chair to drive to Shreveport to meet with the Secretary. It is not the Vice Chairman's job to tell the Chairman how to run the party, when the Chairman says words to the effect that he will have someone else do the task. That is an Executive decision. The entirety of this problem, the costs, time, and inconvenience, is on the head and shoulders of the Chairman. #9 - volunteering to be co-director of a Presidential Campaign for Louisiana, and then failing to accomplish any task, attend any function, offer any assistance, help with any planning or coordination of events, and essentially holding the position in name only. I cannot make first hand comments on this. All I have is what Vice Chairman Scott Lewis told me he was doing. I will leave it to Scott Lewis to address this issue directly. What I do know is that Vice Chairman Scott Lewis has distributed a large quantity of door hangers, yard signs and bumper stickers in an around Baton Rouge. I do know that he has attended numerous events in and around Baton Rouge speaking on behalf of the Presidential Candidate and the Libertarian Congressional Candidate. He also gave signs to the Congressional Candidates from both Alexandria and New Orleans. #10 - making false and baseless accusations of racism of a fellow State Central Committee member. I cannot make first hand comments on this. What I can say is I have had a long and positive working relationship with Vice Chairman Scott Lewis. Yes there are some cultural differences that we have had to work through but both of us were and are doing it. Phone calls and direct personal visits help a great deal. As for the statement that Vice Chairman accused a fellow State Central Committee member of being racist, I was not there and having said that, I find it much out of character for Vice Chairman Scott Lewis. C - Unethical conduct #1 - attempted to get re-imbursed by the SCC for notarizing an Elector form (2008) There is nothing unethical about asking to be re-imbursed for money paid out of his pocket for the party. #2 - attended a 2009 LSLA conference, at party expense, with the purpose of learning more about new online database systems, but instead used the opportunity to pitch a dubious fundraising scheme to other state chairs. Mr. Chairman, were you there or is this hear say and gossip? I cannot make first hand comments on this. All I have is what Scott Lewis told me he was doing. I will leave it to Scott Lewis to address this issue directly. #3 - attempted to entice the LPL to enter into an expensive and poorly worded contract to raise funds through a 3rd party via the selling of medical information devices. (same scheme pitched at the LSLA) There is nothing unethical in pitching a plan or project in an attempt to raise money for the party. Vice Chairman Scott Lewis comes to us with years of experience in promoting events for various organizations including the state Democratic Party, the state Republican Party, the NAACP and other charitable and for profit organizations. When he hears the LPLA needs money he suggests things he has done in the past. It is up the Party to decide if any of the ideas are suitable for the party. #4 - attempted to get re-imbursed for travel expenses incurred while fulfilling duties of his office. (travel to and from SCC meetings) There is nothing unethical about asking to be re-imbursed for money paid. He was not extorting money, only asking if the costs could be re-imbursed. #5 - sought reimbursement for travel and lodging expenses to attend the NAACP convention as a "liaison" to that organization and representative of the LPL. There is nothing unethical about asking to be re-imbursed for money paid. He was not extorting money, only asking if the costs could be re-imbursed. #6 - attempted to get the party and an LP Congressional candidate to use his personal business services at expense to the Party and to the Candidate. There is nothing unethical in pitching a plan or project in an attempt to raise money. #7 - has on numerous occasions, solicited interest in holding media events, concerts, festivals et cetera, which would not be in any way linked to the LPL, but which would be funded by the LPL, in exchange for a share of the proceeds of such events. (if any) In all of these events, personal friends and himself, were to also profit. There is nothing unethical in pitching a plan or project in an attempt to raise money. #8 - attempted to divert discussion at an SCC meeting concerning online donation logistics, towards using his personal contacts or himself as "bundlers" for LPL funds. There is nothing unethical in pitching a plan or project in an attempt to raise money. #9 - attempting to attend a private fundraiser for a Presidential Campaign without making a required donation, and while inviting a guest who also would not make a required donation, thus each of them partaking of access to the candidate and party activists and of food and drink provided, without contribution. As a member of the State Central Committee and Vice-Chairman, I think he, the Chairman and Secretary should be entitled to free admission to such events. I do not know and I suspect his guest was a member of the press. The press is always granted free access to events and the associated food and drink. ============================================== In Conclusion: Mr. Chairman, if there is anyone derelict in his duty it is you for failure to keep in close working contact and communication with your second in command, the Vice Chairman. Mr. Chairman, if there is anyone guilty of conduct unbecoming to the office it is you for the manner in which you handled this issue. Mr. Chairman, if there is anyone guilty of unethical conduct it is you for making false charges, sending your unsubstantiated charges out to only part of the State Central Committee and for failing to even ask the person you lay charges on to respond before attempting sending out this diatribe. Fellow Central Committee Members, I call upon your good judgment to find this attempt to besmirch the name, honor and reputation of our Vice Chairman Scott Lewis, baseless and to rebuke the Chairman. I also ask the Chairman formally apologize to the Vice Chairman for this dastardly attempt to remove a good man from office. Mr. Chairman, I do not call for your resignation. You are young and inexperienced. Learn from this. I have great hope for the growth of the party under your leadership and in the future, please do not let your misdirected personal anger override your good sense and customary diplomacy. ========================== The following is the current bill of charges against the Vice Chairman as well as the responses I made as the defense spokesperson for the Vice Chairman, note again the vague nature of most of the charges and the repetition of charges already supposedly resolved. ATTACHMENT TWO Wes Benedict - Finance Officer Howard Kearney - Membership Officer Boyd Smith - Elections Officer Pursuant to the directions in the email from our Chairman, I have information of bearing on this issue. I will ask you pursuant to the directions, to not share this outside of your group and I include the current party Chairman as OUTSIDE of this investigation group. " The committee will conduct its investigation with the utmost discretion." Before we get into the charges I want you to know who Scott A. Lewis is. EDUCATION: High School- Southern Laboratory H.S. (lettered in football, basketball, track, baseball and basket ball) COLLEGE: Grambling State University Louisiana (4 years) Southern University (1). All American - College Football, DRAFTED NFL 1971 second round, to the KANSAS CITY CHIEFS. NFL Professional Athlete (Kansas City CHIEFS and Houston OILERS) WFL World Football League: Chicago Fire and Detroit Wheels. EMPLOYMENT: Self-employed Businessman, Civil Rights Activist and Community Leader. Enjoyed 20 successful years functioning as CORPORATE MEDIA INDEPENDANT LIASON FOR/WITH: Communities, FORTUNE 500 International Corporations, National Political Leaders, Community Leaders. CEO/President /Owner S. A. Lewis, III & Associates; and Stockholder of Louisiana Inner City Business Alliance, Inc. d/b/a Louisiana Inner City Business, publication Media Relations, Distribution, Marketing and Promotions. CULTURAL - ENTERTAINMENT - ARTISTIC ACCOLADES: One of the first minorities to successfully integrate California Entertainment Industry as a grip at the Burbank Studios. Member of the Press WXOK, Radio 1460 AM (1972). PROFESSIONAL FILM-THEATER AFFILIATIONS: Black Theatre and Performing Arts (Houston, Texas) FILM CREDITS: 1974 American International Pictures, "Buck Town" directed by Arthur Marks. 1975 MGM Studios, "Drum" Directed by Steve Carver. AUDIO: Voice-overs for "Cooley High". INTERNSHIP: American International pictures for screening and editing. COMMUNITY SERVICE: (Houston, Texas) Project P.U.L.L. (Professional United Leadership League) Director: Ernie Ladd. Focus: Youth building. Served on F.A.M.E. Inc., (Fraternal Athletic Marketing Enterprises, Inc.) Marketing Campaign Strategist for United Founders Insurance Company designing advertising, placement and on-site promotions. Public Relations /Press Media liaison for Record Retailers Houston, Texas Professional Entertainers Events Security Coordinator PACE Management (Houston, Texas) Professional Concert Event Coordinator /Press liaison for Professional Entertainers Event Marketing /Promotion to the Stars (Houston, Texas) Artist Development Representatives for High Profile Recording Industry Labels/Moguls Wrote and produced "Let's Set the Record Straight" and "The Evolution" television programs Artist management various artist. Wrote and produced several songs for distribution, ("Gotta Lotta Respect") Produced multiple video productions, LA Photographed a multitude of well known and not so well known people, LA Journalist/Editor/Photographer/Video News Producer Inducted into the Southern University Laboratory High School Athletic Hall of Fame Awarded the Light House award. ORGANIZATIONS AND AFFILIATIONS PAST AND PRESENT: Member of Prince Hall Masonic Grand Lodge of Louisiana SAG - Screen Actors Guild YBPC - Young Black Programmers Coalition Kiwanis Club NAACP Honorary Louisiana Senator Honorary Louisiana State Representative Who's Who in Black Music BMI - Writer & Publisher YMCA - Black Achievers LECTURE: LA Edutainment Council for Touring United Recording Entrepreneurs Baton Rouge NAACP Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Celebration Committee The Black Family Leadership Plan Louisiana Music POLITICAL RACES: Secretary of State 2003 All 4143 precincts reporting "Al" Donovan (D) 22.42% 284125 Scott Lewis (O) 5.28% 66969 W. Fox McKeithen (R) 72.30% 916235 2003 Results. Secretary of State 2007 All 3967 precincts reporting "Jay" Dardenne (R) 63.32% 757821 Scott Lewis (O) 5.41% 64723 "R." Wooley (D) 31.27% 2007 results Governor 2011 David Blanchard (N) 2.61% 26705 Leonard "Lenny" Bollingham (N) 0.51% 5242 "Ron" Ceasar (N) 0.80% 8179 Cary J. Deaton (D) 4.89% 50071 Tara Hollis (D) 17.88% 182925 "Bobby" Jindal (R) 65.80% 673239 William Robert "Bob" Lang, Jr. (N) 0.89% 9109 Scott Lewis (L) 1.22% 12528 "Niki Bird" Papazoglakis (D) 2.14% 21885 Ivo "Trey" Roberts (D) 3.25% 33280 2011 results ============================================== With that in place, let's move on to the specious allegations and character assassination attempt by parties who cower and hide behind anonymous masks to hide their treachery. Charge 1. Dereliction of Duty of the Office of Vice-chairman Specification 1. Not being present for the convention at which he was elected, and at which he was to serve as an officer, being already duly elected by the previous convention. I, T. Lee Horne, III, was the Chairman at the referenced convention. I specifically told Vice-Chairman Lewis that he should attend a large NAACP conference in New Orleans to represent the Libertarian Party rather than come to the convention. This charge is a vicious lie by a coward who remains in the bushes throwing shit. Specification 2. Not being present for the first State Central Committee meeting, held in Alexandria, Louisiana, such attendance being required of his office by the By-laws, his absence preventing a quorum, causing members and officers to travel at great expense to themselves without purpose. Neither I T. Lee Horne, III nor Vice-Chairman Lewis attended in person, we were readily available by telephone and I so notified the Secretary and the Chairman that I would be ready and available should I be needed to reach a quorum. There was no response from either saying that such was not acceptable and such attendance by telephone had been acceptable during my term as Chairman. Both Scott and I were under the distinct impression from our understanding of party rules, rules we voted on that we could attend SCC meetings electronically and we were both available to attend electronically. Specification 3. Not being present for a meeting of the Strategic Planning Committee which he chairs, after calling the meeting, and inviting members from other parts of the State to attend, causing them to travel at great expense to themselves, and instead, attempting to chair a physical meeting by telephone in violation of Robert's Rules of Order. Robert's Rules clearly state that policy of any group over ride Robert's rules. It is and always was the policy of the Vice-Chairman to hold meetings by telephone conference whenever possible to save time and travel money for all members. He was not holding a dance class where the bodies had to be present. Specification 4. Failing to make any attempt to establish Parish Executive Committees for unorganized parishes as required of his office under the By-laws, leaving the work instead to be done at great personal effort and expense to the Executive Director, such work being outside the Director's contract, and causing considerable difficulties in negotiating agreeable payment terms for such contract. This requirement is a "best efforts" requirement. The Vice-Chairman has worked in and around Baton Rouge as this is his natural base of operation and East Baton Rouge PEC is proof of this work. Additionally the Vice-Chairman has made numerous trips to Alexandria, Lafayette, Houma, Thibodaux, La Place and other cities in attempt to establish activists who would form PECs in their Parishes. Once again this is baseless character assassination attempt by someone or group who just does not like the person in the office of Vice-Chairman. Specification 5. In the absence of established Parish Executive Committees, failing to take care that the duties assigned to these committees are carried out in their respective parishes, either by his own actions, or by the appointment of a parish director, organizer, or other member as the By-laws require. Aside from this "requirement" being a best efforts requirement, how is the Vice-Chairman to do this? Slavery has been outlawed for a very long time and absent of people willing to do this work how can the Vice-Chairman make anyone do anything against their free will. Indeed why would a good Libertarian even suggest that he should do such a thing? Charges should be brought against those who would even suggest such a thing. I submit that, if the Vice-Chairman is to be removed from office for dereliction of duty, then each and every one of us is subject to the same sanction right now today. ========================================================== The following were all long ago handled and resolved by the current Chairman and Vice-Chairman and have no place in this proceeding. Charge 2. Conduct Unbecoming an Officer of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana. Specification 1. Failing to turn in his Affidavit of Acceptance form for filing as a Presidential Elector. Whereas the first form was void in its form because the names were not correct and thus useless, this is a specious charge. Specification 2. Failing to turn in his Affidavit of Acceptance form, corrected version. Note that the first form was turned in if later than optimal still in a full timely fashion to get the party on the ballot. Phones work two ways. Did anyone call the Vice-Chairman and ask or inquire of him in any way? No, no one called. Specification 3. Failing to communicate why said form was not turned in the first time in a timely manner. Whereas the first form was void in its form because the names were not correct and thus useless, this is a specious charge. Specification 4. Failing to communicate why said form was not turned in at all the second time. Phones work two ways. Did anyone call the Vice-Chairman and ask or inquire of him in any way? Once again, no one called. Specification 5. Failing to display any concern for his tardiness in turning in these critical forms. Would you have him tear the pocket off of his shirt and wail loudly Mea Culpa? I was under the impression that the current Chairman and the current Vice Chairman had a long and private conversation on this subject, resolved all these issues. Indeed, I personally spoke with the current Chairman who said the Chairman and Vice-Chairman had resolved this in a phone conversation. Specification 6. Failing to display any interest in securing the forms before the legal deadline. Once again, I was under the impression that the current Chairman and the current Vice Chairman had a long and private conversation on this subject, resolved all these issues. Indeed, I personally spoke with the current Chairman who said the Chairman and Vice-Chairman had resolved this in a phone conversation. Specification 7. Lack of concern for known deadlines affecting ballot access for the Libertarian Presidential and Vice-Presidential candidates. Once again, I was under the impression that the current Chairman and the current Vice Chairman had a long and private conversation on this subject, resolved all these issues. Indeed, I personally spoke with the current Chairman who said the Chairman and Vice-Chairman had resolved this in a phone conversation. Specification 8. Causing the chair to go to great personal effort and expense to remedy the officer's failure to file required legal paperwork in a timely manner. Expense the Chairman could have easily avoided by the simple expedient of using the telephone, calling the Vice-Chairman, and meeting the Vice-Chairman in Baton Rouge on the way to the Office of the Secretary of State. Once again, I was under the impression that the current Chairman and the current Vice Chairman had a long and private conversation on this subject, resolved all these issues. Indeed, I personally spoke with the current Chairman who said the Chairman and Vice-Chairman had resolved this in a phone conversation. If any of these are allowed to stand then none of us may ever count on issues resolved directly between us and the Chairman being over and done with but will rather come up over and over. That is just wrong unjust and unfair. I don't know about you but I would not consider working with or under the never ending threat of old resolved charges being brought up over and over. ============================================================== Specification 9. Volunteering to be a co-director of a Presidential campaign for Louisiana, and subsequently failing to accomplish any task, attend any function, offer any assistance with any planning or coordination of events, and essentially holding the position in name only. The person making this accusation needs to look in a mirror. The Vice-Chairman called repeatedly to speak with Reed Ebarb on the campaign. Reed Ebarb refused to take his calls, refused to answer any email communications and indeed Reed Ebarb prohibited the Vice-Chairman and a member of the Press James Terry, a Capital reporter for the Associated Press, from attending and covering the Presidential campaign event in Louisiana and thus denying our Presidential candidate good press coverage by a major news outlet. Reed Ebarb should face charges on this but I convinced the vice-Chairman to not push it for the good of the party. Specification 10. Making false and baseless accusations of racism against a fellow state Central Committee member. >From what I can see of Reed Ebarb's actions the shoe fits and he should wear it. I am glad he resigned and I believe Reed Ebarb to be actively working to destroy the party with this whole proceeding. Specification 11. Making an announcement for elective office in a public forum without advising the State Central Committee in advance, thereby raising questions among the general membership and the voting public with respect to the Libertarian Party's implied endorsement of his candidacy, and drawing their leadership into question accordingly. There is no party by law nor state ethics board violation here. Reed Ebarb is on a personal vendetta. Reed Ebarb by his actions proven to be a prejudice bigot. Specification 12. Failing to form an exploratory committee in advance of this public announcement, making the announcement without any established campaign committee, platform, or ready biography for prospective voters and media. There is no party by law nor state ethics board violation here. But for the record that little introduction I made at the beginning of this, well it has been available on line for YEARS over on MySpace and other location so don't even try to tell me any one made any good effort to find it. As for the platform and other issues, the Vice-Chairman came to the party members in various on line forums and asked the members what was important to them. The Vice-Chairman came to the members asking for assistance in fleshing out the specifics, he already has the general state platform and was asking for people to contribute specific issues. All he got for his trouble was a ration of shit. That is no way to treat a candidate. Reed Ebarb is on a personal vendetta. He has by his actions in this matter proven to be an unforgiving and unrepentant prejudice bigot. Specification 13. Failing to provide any such platform or biographical statement upon the request of prospective voters, Officers and other party members. This charge is just a rehash of the previous charge in another form solely in an attempt to smear the Vice Chairman. Specification 14. Filing for elective office in 2011 and failing to duly answer media inquiries, creating a poor impression on voters and media of the Libertarian Party, its candidates, and its leadership. This is another load of crap. The Vice-Chairman did answer all but ONE reporter. That reporter only gave one day for a replay saying, he would get the information from the League of Women Voters site if the Vice-Chairman did not answer this one reporter in the short dead line given. NOW, how can the Vice-Chairman have had information up at the League of Women Voters and this charge even be remotely valid? This once again is a person vendetta by bigots. ======================================================= Charge 3. Unethical Conduct Specification 1. Attempting to get reimbursed for the notarizing of an Affidavit of Acceptance form in 2008, such cost, incidental to being a candidate for elective office, being only legally payable by the candidate or a candidate's committee, and which cannot be paid by the Party. There is nothing unethical about asking to be re-paid for money paid out of his pocket for the party. Reed Ebarb was the representative for the Candidate in the state and present when the request was made. Never did Reed Ebarb clarify from whom the repayment was to come, thus causing the Vice-Chairman to be unable to be reimbursed. Where I come from this is called malicious and a setup. The man and his may as well be wearing white sheet and hood. Specification 2. Attending a 2009 Libertarian State Leadership Alliance conference, in the Chairman's proxy, at Party expense, for the purpose of learning more about the new CiviCRM online database system, but instead, using the opportunity to pitch a dubious fundraising scheme to other state chairs in concert with a personal business partner who made the trip, also at Party expense. I must ask of the anonymous accuser, were you there or is this hear say and gossip as regards the activities of the Vice-Chairman at the conference? I will grant that a business associate did go along and said business associate paid for half the fuel, used his car and paid for half of the room. The party preapproved the expense and did give the Vice-Chairman the credit card to pay for the travel. The trip actually cost the party less. Specification 3. Soliciting the LPL to enter into an expensive and poorly worded contract to raise funds for the Party through a 3rd party via the selling of medical information devices, this being the same scheme pitched at the aforementioned conference, and one in which he has personal connections to the 3rd party which would profit from the contract. There is nothing unethical, immoral or illegal in pitching a plan or project in an attempt to raise money for the party. There was no threat, no extortion, this was just a business offer. Specification 4. Attempting to get reimbursed for travel expenses as a condition of fulfilling duties of his office. (traveling to a and from State Central Committee meetings) There is nothing unethical about asking to be re-paid for money paid. He was not extorting money, only asking if the costs could be re-paid. Specification 5. Seeking reimbursement for travel and lodging to attend the NAACP 2012 convention as a ?liaison? to that organization and representative of the Party. There is nothing unethical about asking to be re-paid for money paid. He was not extorting money, only asking if the costs could be re-paid. Specification 6. Soliciting the Party and a Congressional candidate to use his personal business services at expense to the Party and the Candidate. What? Do not sign painters and people making yard signs charge for their work? The Vice-Chairman was offering his professional services at a discount to his normal prices. There is nothing unethical in pitching a plan or project in an attempt to do business with the party. There was no demand or threat, only and offer. Specification 7. Using a Strategic Planning Committee meeting to solicit the party again to use these same services. Again I ask, Do not sign painters and people making yard signs charge for their work? The Vice-Chairman was offering his professional services at a discount to his normal prices. There is nothing unethical in pitching a plan or project in an attempt to do business with the party. There was no demand or threat, only an offer. Specification 8. Using a Strategic Planning Committee meeting to solicit volunteers and support from party activists and officers for his campaign for elective office, rather than using the meeting to plan strategy for the Party. How does anyone ethically and reasonably make such ludicrous charges? This is just a rehash of Specification 12 above in the conduct unbecoming section and I will answer it the same. As for the platform and other issues, the Vice-Chairman came to the party members in various on line forums and asked the members what was important to them. The Vice-Chairman came to the members asking for assistance in fleshing out the specifics, he already has the general state platform and was asking for people to contribute specific issues. All he got for his trouble was a ration of shit. That is no way to treat a candidate. Specification 8. Using a Strategic Planning Committee meeting to solicit volunteers and support from party activists and officers for his campaign for elective office, rather than using the meeting to plan strategy for the Party. This is the same charge reworded and as such just a rehash of Specification 12 in the above section on conduct unbecoming. The answer is the same. As for the platform and other issues, the Vice-Chairman came to the party members in various on line forums and asked the members what was important to them. The Vice-Chairman came to the members asking for assistance in fleshing out the specifics, he already has the general state platform and was asking for people to contribute specific issues. All he got for his trouble was a ration of shit. That is no way to treat a candidate. Specification 9. Attempting to involve the Party in an electronic communications scheme which would expose its contact list to his personal business interests. This is so vague as to be completely unanswerable. It is just another smear by someone attempting a personal vendetta and character assassination. Specification 10. Has on numerous occasions, solicited interest in holding media events, concerts, festivals et cetera, which would not in any way be publicly linked to the Party, but which would be partly or entirely funded by the Party, in exchange for a share of the proceeds of such events, if any. In all of these events, personal friends and himself, were to also profit. This is an interesting half truth. Yes money making events have been proposed. The party is constantly and incessantly saying it needs money, has no money can't do this or that because there is no money. The Vice-Chairman has made good faith efforts to offer his services to the party for fund raising. These are legitimate business offers and the party is and has always been free to accept or decline. Specification 11. Attempting to divert discussion at a State Central Committee meeting concerning online donation logistics towards using his personal contacts or himself as ?bundlers? for Party funds. I submit that there is not enough information in this charge to make a response. Once again it appears to be the blather of a prejudice bigot intent on smearing the Vice-Chairman. In any case, there is nothing unethical in pitching a plan or project in an attempt to raise money. I submit that if the Vice-Chairman is to be removed from office for asking if expenses incurred for the party at the direction and request of the party could be repaid and for proposing money making projects then several others must also be removed and NONE will ever be brave enough to ever again suggest ways to raise money. ==================================== In summary, what you see before you gentlemen is an attempt by a party or parties mostly unknown, cowardly hiding in the shadows making unsubstantiated charges. Yes the party has a problem. The problem is with this self-righteous, mean-spirited and bigoted crew and Reed Ebarb is the current leader. As a friend of mine put it, "The have got together the mob. They have found the rope. And they are going to hang someone." Do not let yourselves be the tree these bastards use to hang a good man. Sincerely, T. Lee Horne, III for the defendant. From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of Adrien Monteleone Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 3:27 PM To: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Internal party foolishness. To all Board members, The following is my response to a communication from T. Lee Horne, who has been communicating directly with Mr. Lewis through this present judicial action. I am now including the rest of you in this discussion because this has grown beyond any attempt to handle this matter quietly and without full attention of the Board. Please scroll down and read from the bottom up for the proper order of the thread. You will see why I felt it necessary, since everyone is now personally involved, that I chose to include the entire Board. _____ What case does he intend to bring in a court? There is nothing illegal about an organization attempting to remove a member or disciplining a member. Is the involvement of the NAACP mean he is alleging he can't be subject to disciplinary procedures because of his skin color? Is he alleging he can never be removed from office through the rules and the procedures in Robert's because of his skin color? No cause for relief from a court exists as of today. No action has been taken by the Board against him. Allegations are being investigated. There has not yet been a trial nor any decision been made. He has not been harmed in any way, and certainly not publicly. This information is strictly within the confines of the Board members. Is he alleging just the mere investigation is an injury to him? Is a private organization powerless to investigate allegations against one of its members? Is he alleging this powerlessness is simply due to his skin color? Recall, one of the allegations is an unsubstantiated claim of racism against a fellow Board member. By threatening legal action on such grounds, and for things which are according to our By-laws and accordingly under Robert's Rules of Order as our Parliamentary authority, within the Board's prerogative to engage in, he is in fact, making a blatant unsubstantiated claim of racism. He is outright claiming that rightful action and behavior by the Party is inherently racist, simply because of his skin color, thus falsely claiming that he is not and can never be subject to any such procedures or subject to enforcement of any rules or By-laws because of his skin color. He just added another specification to his charges. And you just provided the evidence with his quote. And this time, it isn't against just one or two members, he is now claiming the entire Board is racist just for the mere "crime" that some of them sit on the Board. Recall, other Board members have not signed on to these charges. No one, not even the Secretary has weighed in or commented on them. And no such comments would even be appropriate at this time. (as I think everyone recognizes) I made it clear that a committee was appointed to investigate the veracity of the charges. Thus it is apparent, their status as fact is not yet decided and no opinion should be offered on such until the committee issues its report. Thus he is accusing everyone, who simply received notice as he has, of being racist for their mere presence on the Board, and is threatening them with legal action on such grounds. His legal counsel would do well to reconsider, as would he, so as not to be sanctioned by any court of law for bringing a frivolous suit. There's not much harsher a rebuke a court can issue an attorney beyond declaring their suit "frivolous." Alleging a crime and demanding relief from a court, on the grounds that members of the Board are merely members of the Board is a good candidate for such a rebuke and dismissal of such a case "with prejudice." (which is a legal term meaning "don't ever bring this before this court again, as it will be dismissed outright without being considered. And this is not appeal-able and will not be reconsidered.") Not only will this cause the Investigative Committee to add this to its specification list, I doubt highly that it will engender him any votes in support of his non-guilt or encourage anyone to give deference and vote to retain him in his office. If his fate wasn't already sealed by a potentially long list of improper actions if they are verified, this one action on his part, which now the entire Board is aware of, may be sufficient to secure his removal, and likely now expulsion and life-time banishment from the party. Lawsuits are an act of government force. As Libertarians, we do not believe in initiating force to solve our disputes. In fact, we find it reprehensible. We do of course allow for self-defense, or the proper seeking of redress for previous injury or use of force by someone else upon us. Since no force has been used against Mr. Lewis, no any injury committed upon him, and since an organization has every right and power to protect itself from members it deems are harmful or destructive to its purpose, and since the Board has not even heard all of the evidence or taken any official decision on the allegations, Mr. Lewis' threat of the use of force might well constitute an initial use, and would therefore be about as un-Libertarian as one can muster without actually using direct physical violence against someone. This may well provide the justification for penalties of expulsion and life-time banishment. Mr. Lewis is making it clear by such threats that he has zero interest in the Party and no concern for its purposes, or even respect for its most basic tenet. As chairman, I will not allow this process to be turned into a round robin circus of threats. The Board has to follow the procedures in Robert's Rules and our By-Laws, and so does the accused. He will be given ample opportunity to defend himself against any charges brought against him, if the investigators bring any, the Board will then deliberate according to Robert's on the question of guilt and the appropriate disciplinary measures if he is found guilty. I will also not allow this Board to be intimidated, in any way shape or form, especially via threats of lawsuits for conducting themselves according to our established and accepted By-Laws, Rules, and Parliamentary Authority and certainly not for merely being members of the Board. Mr. Lewis VOLUNTEERED for this position and has served on this Board since April 2008, and in his current capacity since September 2008. The rules and procedures have never been secret from him. He has even voted, on the record at conventions, to adopt the present By-laws which we all now serve under. _____ I hereby declare that it is the opinion of the Chair that such threats and behavior on Mr. Lewis' part are entirely OUT OF ORDER and remonstrate him to not only refrain from making any such further threats or making such similar speech or comments, or taking any action upon such words and threats, but call upon his IMMEDIATE, UNCONDITIONAL, and UNEQUIVOCAL apology to ALL Board members. Since this infraction occurred outside of a meeting, but one that now the entire Board is aware of, according to the procedures as outlined in ?61 of Robert's Rules of Order, I, as Chairman of the Board, hereby instruct the Investigative Committee to add to their list of Specifications under Charge 3 - Unethical Conduct or whichever charge, or an additional charge if they see fit, the aforementioned threats of use of government force against the Board in general and a single member in particular, AND a Specification, under whatever charge, or an additional charge, as they see fit, for the unsubstantiated claims or insinuation of racism upon the entire Board or any of them, simply for being on the Board, and for actions not yet taken, said actions being within the prerogative of the Board under its right to discipline its members and protect itself from members whom it deems dangerous or destructive to itself and/or its purposes. In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 3/28/13 2:24 PM, T Lee Horne III wrote: Adrien, I spoke with Scott Lewis at length just now. He is quite angry now. He has been talking with his friends who are, as friends will be, very much in his corner and they are not helping me calm him down. One of his friends is a lawyer and is suggesting pro bono legal action against Reed personally and the party in general. I'll need at least another over night to work on calming this down. It may not calm down, in which case there will be blood in fields so to speak. Reed will have won a very pyrrhic victory. It will cost him all he has and all he may ever get just in legal fees. This could easily turn into an NAACP vs. Libertarian Party of Louisiana State Central Committee battle. There are a lot more of members at the NAACP than there are at the LPLA. Can the treasury take this risk? As Scott said, "They formed the mob, they brought the rope and they are looking for a tree and I'm going to defend myself." T Lee Horne, III Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 tleehorneiii at gmail.com 318-542-4445 google voice tleehorneiii skype http://bit.ly/12zAQMS From: Adrien Monteleone [mailto:chairman at lplouisiana.org] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 1:57 PM To: Paladin at LPLouisiana.org Subject: Re: Internal party foolishness. ... The Investigative Committee already has plans to talk to Scott once they were informed he had received the official notice. (has he received it yet?) But certainly, they can do so now regardless. Charges do not have to be officially brought. They haven't even finished investigating yet. This suggestion is perfectly within the framework of Robert's. I'll inform the Investigative Committee at once so they can contact Scott and get this over with. If he resigns - and certainly if he does so to focus on the campaign, the committee can simply drop the matter and return "no bill" as you suggest since the issue would be a moot point. I wouldn't have him address the charges directly in any letter of resignation though. They aren't public outside of the Board and never will be. But his resignation will be official record if someone wants to read it. Best to leave it speaking only of his campaign reasons. If he feels compelled to say something in some fashion otherwise, perhaps the usual artful phrases "differences of vision/opinion" or "irreconcilable differences" would be best. If however, he waits too long and we have to proceed with a trial before he offers to resign, the Board under Robert's can refuse the resignation as affecting the trial and proceed anyway. Our By-laws state his resignation is always effective without the need for acceptance, and this would still be true, but the Board could proceed with the trial, still vote on guilt or innocence, and still vote to impose other penalties or sanctions. The sooner the resignation is offered the better. ... In Liberty,? ? ? Adrien Monteleone - Chairman? Libertarian Party of Louisiana? On 3/27/13 5:47 AM, T Lee Horne III wrote: Adrien, I sent the following to Scott Lewis this morning. Scott, ... I'm thinking it may be time to end the BS and go your own way. It's just a matter of negotiation. To me the issue is clearing the charges with a rebuttal and a resignation all at the same time in the same letter. That will give you a clean exit and if the investigating tribunal will return "No Bill" as in no charges you resign with a clean and clear name. What say you? =========================== Adrien, do you think this can be done on the side of the party? I know Scott wants to be able to say he resigned because he found his campaign needed more attention and he did not feel he could effectively be vice-chairman and run a full time campaign. I know we are bending things a little and that is the art and science of political negotiation. T Lee Horne, III Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 tleehorneiii at gmail.com 318-542-4445 Google voice tleehorneiii Skype http://bit.ly/12zAQMS -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Paladin at LPLouisiana.org Mon Apr 1 09:06:19 2013 From: Paladin at LPLouisiana.org (T Lee Horne III) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 10:06:19 -0400 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Resignation In-Reply-To: <0e19b935b93a110f1a6a57a8d2e59d71.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> References: <5e4eda4ba613074e8e167d06b7db357a.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> <000901ce25a0$ab7cf010$0276d030$@org> <0e19b935b93a110f1a6a57a8d2e59d71.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <001001ce2ee2$18d7de50$4a879af0$@org> In reply to the nomination of Daniel Hayes, I say no. Mr. Hayes has proven to me by his actions in discussion forums that he is nothing more than a heckler, nitpicker, trouble maker and baboon. Witness also that he is a co conspirator with Reed Ebarb in the (what appears to me to be a racist) smear campaign against the Vice Chairman. Likewise Mitch Dufour is also unfit. See the following: ------------------- March 19 via mobile Time for heads to roll. - with Daniel Hayes. Like . . Share Mitch Dufour ???.......... March 19 at 11:05pm . Like Reed Ebarb You'll have to call for the details on this one March 19 at 11:05pm via mobile . March 19 ------------------------ T Lee Horne, III Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 tleehorneiii at gmail.com 318-542-4445 google voice tleehorneiii skype http://bit.ly/12zAQMS -----Original Message----- From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of Reed Ebarb Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 10:05 PM To: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Resignation To the Ben Arnold idea, I would vote hell no. I would second everything Adrien and add something. Ben is out for himself. He would be a huge liability and bring little to nothing to the table. > We may have one. Daniel Hayes has a possible name. I think Sal > Giangrosso. He has a history with the LP and has experience in > Banking and finance if I recall correctly. > > bws > >> The former Shreveport Meetup leader, Benjamin Arnold, would make a >> good Secretary. I'll nominate him. I inquired of Benjamin and he said >> he would be honored to serve. He works days so meeting would have to >> be nights, evenings or days when he is not working. >> >> If anyone else has more time and is willing please step up. >> >> I do not have a candidate for treasurer. Anyone? >> >> T Lee Horne, III >> Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA President of Brumby >> Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 Former Chairman of Libertarian Party >> of Louisiana 2009-2012 Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran >> a 4 year campaign >> 2003-2007 >> tleehorneiii at gmail.com >> 318-542-4445 google voice >> tleehorneiii skype >> http://bit.ly/12zAQMS >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > If you have not already done so, please consider becoming a dues member of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana by visiting louisianalibertarian.net _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org ---------------------------------------------------- This message has been processed by Firetrust Benign. From boydw.smith at yahoo.com Mon Apr 1 10:34:42 2013 From: boydw.smith at yahoo.com (Boyd Smith) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 08:34:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Resignation In-Reply-To: <001001ce2ee2$18d7de50$4a879af0$@org> References: <5e4eda4ba613074e8e167d06b7db357a.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> <000901ce25a0$ab7cf010$0276d030$@org> <0e19b935b93a110f1a6a57a8d2e59d71.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> <001001ce2ee2$18d7de50$4a879af0$@org> Message-ID: <1364830482.97329.YahooMailNeo@web161905.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Sal?Giangrosso is the name.? ? bws From: T Lee Horne III To: 'Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors' Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 9:06 AM Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Resignation In reply to the nomination of Daniel Hayes, I say no. Mr. Hayes has proven to me by his actions in discussion forums that he is nothing more than a heckler, nitpicker, trouble maker and baboon. Witness also that he is a co conspirator with Reed Ebarb in the (what appears to me to be a racist) smear campaign against the Vice Chairman. Likewise Mitch Dufour is also unfit. See the following: ------------------- March 19 via mobile Time for heads to roll. - with Daniel Hayes. Like . . Share Mitch Dufour ???.......... March 19 at 11:05pm . Like Reed Ebarb You'll have to call for the details on this one March 19 at 11:05pm via mobile . March 19 ------------------------ T Lee Horne, III Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 tleehorneiii at gmail.com 318-542-4445 google voice tleehorneiii skype http://bit.ly/12zAQMS -----Original Message----- From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of Reed Ebarb Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 10:05 PM To: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Resignation To the Ben Arnold idea, I would vote hell no. I would second everything Adrien and add something. Ben is out for himself. He would be a huge liability and bring little to nothing to the table. > We may have one.? Daniel Hayes has a possible name.? I think Sal > Giangrosso.? He has a history with the LP and has experience in > Banking and finance if I recall correctly. > > bws > >> The former Shreveport Meetup leader, Benjamin Arnold, would make a >> good Secretary. I'll nominate him. I inquired of Benjamin and he said >> he would be honored to serve. He works days so meeting would have to >> be nights, evenings or days when he is not working. >> >> If anyone else has more time and is willing please step up. >> >> I do not have a candidate for treasurer. Anyone? >> >> T Lee Horne, III >> Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA President of Brumby >> Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 Former Chairman of Libertarian Party >> of Louisiana 2009-2012 Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran >> a 4 year campaign >> 2003-2007 >> tleehorneiii at gmail.com >> 318-542-4445 google voice >> tleehorneiii skype >> http://bit.ly/12zAQMS >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > If you have not already done so, please consider becoming a dues member of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana by visiting louisianalibertarian.net _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org ---------------------------------------------------- This message has been processed by Firetrust Benign. _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From membership at lplouisiana.org Mon Apr 1 11:25:43 2013 From: membership at lplouisiana.org (Membership LPL) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 11:25:43 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Resignation In-Reply-To: <1364830482.97329.YahooMailNeo@web161905.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <5e4eda4ba613074e8e167d06b7db357a.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> <000901ce25a0$ab7cf010$0276d030$@org> <0e19b935b93a110f1a6a57a8d2e59d71.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> <001001ce2ee2$18d7de50$4a879af0$@org> <1364830482.97329.YahooMailNeo@web161905.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000001ce2ef5$903969b0$b0ac3d10$@org> I've met Sal and consider him a thoughtful and organized individual of the two times I've met him. He was just elected as the Chair of St. Tammany PEC. 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URL: From chairman at lplouisiana.org Mon Apr 1 11:45:32 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 11:45:32 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Resignation In-Reply-To: <1364830482.97329.YahooMailNeo@web161905.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <5e4eda4ba613074e8e167d06b7db357a.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> <000901ce25a0$ab7cf010$0276d030$@org> <0e19b935b93a110f1a6a57a8d2e59d71.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> <001001ce2ee2$18d7de50$4a879af0$@org> <1364830482.97329.YahooMailNeo@web161905.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5159B9AC.4080902@lplouisiana.org> I spoke to Sal a few weeks ago about him serving on the Board. He has respectfully declined. He wants to be active again, but so far, is content with serving as Chair of the St. Tammany PEC. His position also introduces a problem with serving on the Board in any other capacity because as PEC chair he is the proxy or "alternate" for his Parish Rep to the Board. Thus if he were already on the Board as Secretary, and his parish rep missed a meeting, the parish would lose it's vote on the Board for that meeting. (since he can only cast one vote) I can't make heads or tails of what Lee posted about Mitch Dufor. I don't understand what that is. All I see is his name with a question mark and Reed saying to call him for more details about him. I would not support Daniel Hayes for Secretary either. It seems likely at this time, that Daniel will be vying for the Jefferson Parish Rep position at his caucus on Thursday. If he is elected, he'll already be on the Board anyway and can't serve in an executive position. I spoke to Caleb Trotter last Thursday at the Orleans caucus. (he serves on their PEC, but not as Chair or Rep) He is interested in the Treasurer position. I advised him, unless we can find someone else for Secretary either from outside, or via a re-shuffle of present members, that I may need to appoint him as Secretary instead, and as acting Treasurer, similar to what Reed is presently doing. Caleb indicated that would be fine and he would do whatever is necessary and needed in service of the LPL. I don't know what became of the suggestion by Joey Kahrs for Treasurer, I never got a name. I think he and Reed spoke about it. Perhaps between that person and Caleb, we can fill Secretary and Treasurer. Otherwise are there any of the present at-large supporting officers that would prefer to move to the Secretary position? You'd be giving up your committee chair and would be absolutely required to attend all Board meetings. With no Secretary, there is no quorum. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mr. Horne, The Chair remonstrates you a SECOND TIME about making inappropriate claims against fellow members. If you intend to make a motion to bring charges against the Secretary and acting Treasurer, then do so. Unsubstantiated accusations are OUT OF ORDER. In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 4/1/13 10:34 AM, Boyd Smith wrote: > Sal Giangrosso is the name. > bws > > *From:* T Lee Horne III > *To:* 'Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors' > *Sent:* Monday, April 1, 2013 9:06 AM > *Subject:* Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Resignation > > In reply to the nomination of Daniel Hayes, I say no. Mr. Hayes has proven > to me by his actions in discussion forums that he is nothing more than a > heckler, nitpicker, trouble maker and baboon. Witness also that he is a co > conspirator with Reed Ebarb in the (what appears to me to be a racist) smear > campaign against the Vice Chairman. Likewise Mitch Dufour is also unfit. See > the following: > ------------------- > March 19 via mobile > Time for heads to roll. - with Daniel Hayes. > Like . . Share > > Mitch Dufour ???.......... > March 19 at 11:05pm . Like > > Reed Ebarb You'll have to call for the details on this one > March 19 at 11:05pm via mobile . March 19 > ------------------------ > T Lee Horne, III > Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA > President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 > Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 > Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 > tleehorneiii at gmail.com > 318-542-4445 google voice > tleehorneiii skype > http://bit.ly/12zAQMS > > -----Original Message----- > From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org > [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org ] On > Behalf Of Reed Ebarb > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 10:05 PM > To: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors > Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Resignation > > To the Ben Arnold idea, I would vote hell no. I would second everything > Adrien and add something. Ben is out for himself. He would be a huge > liability and bring little to nothing to the table. > > > We may have one. Daniel Hayes has a possible name. I think Sal > > Giangrosso. He has a history with the LP and has experience in > > Banking and finance if I recall correctly. > > > > bws > > > >> The former Shreveport Meetup leader, Benjamin Arnold, would make a > >> good Secretary. I'll nominate him. I inquired of Benjamin and he said > >> he would be honored to serve. He works days so meeting would have to > >> be nights, evenings or days when he is not working. > >> > >> If anyone else has more time and is willing please step up. > >> > >> I do not have a candidate for treasurer. Anyone? > >> > >> T Lee Horne, III > >> Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA President of Brumby > >> Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 Former Chairman of Libertarian Party > >> of Louisiana 2009-2012 Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran > >> a 4 year campaign > >> 2003-2007 > >> tleehorneiii at gmail.com > >> 318-542-4445 google voice > >> tleehorneiii skype > >> http://bit.ly/12zAQMS > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> SCC mailing list > >> SCC at lplouisiana.org > >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SCC mailing list > > SCC at lplouisiana.org > > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > > > > If you have not already done so, please consider becoming a dues member of > the Libertarian Party of Louisiana by visiting louisianalibertarian.net > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > ---------------------------------------------------- > This message has been processed by Firetrust Benign. > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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That is reserved for Judicial Hearings in Executive Session after a motion or call for such a session, and after an Investigative Committee has returned charges and where the accused can answer directly for his/her actions. Your behavior here is in blatant violation of Robert's Rules of Order. You are now doing exactly what you erroneously claimed others were doing to Mr. Lewis. Mr. Lewis will get his "day in court." You are not affording others that right. You have decided to deride and slander members via email. You aren't presenting charges and asking for a hearing. Additionally, your use of profanity below is OUT OF ORDER. The Chair instructs you to cease and desist the use of such language. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I will not turn this email list into a witch hunt. I will not answer allegations against myself or any other member in this forum. The proper place for dealing with judicial action is in executive session in a physical meeting. I will however, since it was alleged and is a serious issue, note for the benefit of understanding for everyone, that computers keep logs or records of many activities dealing with creation, deletion and editing of files. This is a natural and very normal function of computers. Much of what computers do, would be impossible without logs. An email server keeps logs of emails that are sent, received, saved as drafts and templates, and to indicate their size, if any attachments exist, if they are read or unread, have been replied to, or have been forwarded etc. If the server didn't keep these logs, your email program could do very little of what you are used to it doing today. There are no "bugs" in any LPL emails. I cannot tell you even WHEN the Vice-Chairman read the email in question. (just as you can't tell when someone opens an envelope) But the logs do say the email was received and viewed. (like a postmark and a registered receipt) The request to use the official email addresses has already been explained but perhaps was forgotten: #1 - Professionalism. It is unprofessional for emails to and from the party to be from various "john/janedoe at hotmail.com" Official and legitimate organizations have and use their own domain name based email. It is similar to not sending business mail to your home address instead of to the place of business and to sending it to an actual official by title or by real name instead of some nickname like "420dude" or "butterflyChick" etc. #2 - Consistency. This goes hand-in-hand with #1, by using the system directly, either via webmail or stand alone client, instead of forwarding mail to a personal email address, when you issue a reply it looks like it is coming from the same person the original was sent to. Thus, when you send an email to "treasurer at lplouisiana.org" you don''t get a reply from "johnDoe65 at gmail.com." #3 - Record Keeping. The system we have is not perfect, and certainly doesn't work when someone forwards their mail anyway, especially for sent mail. But if members use it as intended, there is then an archive of communications for party records. Remember, this isn't private email. It is BUSINESS email. If you want to chat privately, call them on the phone, talk in person, or use private email. But use official LPL email for official (LPL) business communications. This is critically important with respect to some laws covering this issue. Though their status is being debated in the courts, recent laws have been passed in the last several years that require a permanent record of all internal communications in an business or other organization. Of course, the people who wrote those laws don't understand the limitations of the technology. But I'm not about to leave the LPL open to legal sanction or penalty for failing to even attempt to facilitate such record keeping. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The below conversations (which apparently include new material with commentary now) were never "private" or "confidential." They involved two members of this Board discussing Board issues. The most recent conversation was brought to the attention of the full Board because it included threats of legal action against them. They have a right to know that a fellow member is making such threats upon them. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Finally, the call for the meeting was entirely according to Robert's Rules of Order ?61. It lists the charges, and it lists the specifications as Robert's instructs. It does not list every piece or even any piece of evidence. That is not the purpose or place for such material. The Economic Development Officer would do well to get a copy of the current edition of Robert's Rules and read ?61 in particular which covers disciplinary action. The place for evidence and witness statements is in the "trial" not in any resolution or call or citation to appear. Not including such evidence before trial does not make the charges baseless or "vague." The specifications serve the purpose of addressing the issue of "vagueness" by definition, and the one's listed in the pending action are quite detailed, about as detailed as possible without constituting evidence themselves. In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 4/1/13 9:06 AM, T Lee Horne III wrote: > > Preamble > > Today, those that wish to establish global control use religion, ethnicity, > sexuality, politics, income gaps and more to keep people seeing each other > as the enemy when the real enemy is Big Government. > > If you truly wish to combat the ones trying to establish and entrench > themselves as the ruling elite of the globe, all it takes is loving kindness > towards your fellow human beings. Even if you do not agree with all of their > opinions. Support their earthly right to have it and turn your aim towards > the true enemy of the people, Big Government in all its forms. > > Only together can we defeat the true enemy of individual liberty, freedom > and civil rights. > > Discussion > > I observe that the Chairman has seen fit to bring the entire group into this > and pass on confidential communications between the two of us, part of which > he has used in his publication of additional charge against the Vice > Chairman and which is included in this chain of communication. I have now to > bring you all up to speed on these charges and actions, in a time line going > back to last year. > > Attached in line at the end of my reply, you will find two, one from October > of last year and one from this current hearing. The email that Adrien chose > to share with you all follows those in line attachments. The one from last > year was circulated surreptitiously by the Chairman. I found out about it > because one member who despises secret attacks and actions forwarded me a > copy. I wrote a reply and out of courtesy sent it by email confidentially to > the Chairman. Now seems the time to present this as evidence of the witch > hunt that is being apparently supported by the current Chairman through his > straw man the Secretary/Treasurer. These attached in line documents are > copied and presented with as delivered with typos included. Likewise all > directly quoted text is presented as written. > > Here is where I caution you, do not believe a phone call or personal talk > with the chairman will be honored. Insist all discussions be in writing or > with a witness taking notes in some way. > > The chairman spoke with me over the phone and in some email as well, which > may be brought forward later. The Chairman assured me that the bogus list of > outright lies, and petty charges amounting to character assassination were > the work of one or two men. The Chairman never did name the men and the > possible reason will become apparent to all of you as you read both the > October 2012, the current bill of charges and the included by the Chairman > formerly confidential communications I was involved with in my now futile > attempt to make peace. The Chairman has taken my attempts to keep this calm > and find a way out. He as poured gasoline of the fire. I will not sit by > quietly and allow his agenda to go forward. > > The chairman assured me the October charges were dropped because he > determined there was not enough support to bring the charges much less > convict on those charges, yet here the charges are brought once again. It's > as though I am dealing with a person who will bring up every long past and > resolved transgression at any time to beat on those old long ago resolved > transgressions. This is exactly the same. > > Good people of the State Central Committee, prejudice is insidious, it is > evidenced by a pattern of behavior more than by any one single act. Often > times the one or ones acting in a racially prejudice way are so ingrained > into the behavior in their own culture they may not even realize that the > behavior and attitude is unacceptable in the rest of society. Maybe we > should consider whether we have this problem in the party or in the > committees. And we must look at whether that is in any way affecting any of > our actions. Once again, I leave the final determination to you. Look > closely at the pattern of behavior in evidence by the petty nature of the > charges, by the vague unspecific nature of many of the charges, by the > double standard of behavior of those charges. Who in here has not asked > question of a group as to the possibility of being reimbursed for expenses? > Who in here has not thought of and brought up potential ways for a group to > raise funds for the group. Look at the vagueness of the charges made with > regard to the fundraising proposals and wonder to yourselves what is really > going on. Remember, racists and bigots have gotten quite good at not > directly using the "N" word and claiming fairness, equality of treatment and > magnanimous actions, all the while subtly acting to undermine the black > people who dare to aspire to leadership or any improvement in any area of > life. We all must examine ourselves closely and continually to determine > whether we are doing these things ourselves. > > In communications prior to the last communication the Chairman said that the > Vice-Chairman had 21 days from the date postmarked on a Registered letter to > respond to the charges. I will quote directly from his email to me dated > March 23, 2013 . Furthermore, I have strong issue with the manner in which > the charges were delivered. > > "I advised according to Robert's Rules and our By-Laws that 21 day notice of > any charges and the specific counts for each has to be made to each member > to call a judicial session. (which accordingly I was asked to put on the > agenda) That notice should have been sent registered mail to the accused, > and mailed to the remaining members. I don't know if they are in the hands > of the postal service already or not." > > When that letter never came, perhaps because it was never sent, a letter > postmarked 3-28 came, I wrote to the Chairman that the time line was > violated and the hearing could not be held April 13. Now the Chairman says > the email is sufficient and he can prove that the Vice-Chairman received the > email. Think about this, the rule is now changed on the delivery of notice > AND the Chairman can prove the Vice-Chairman received the email. So the > Chairman implies he has 'Bugs' in his emails that he sends out to all of us. > "Bugs" that none of us were aware of and none of us agreed to. Now we know > why he insists all of us must use only the official email system. > Additionally the Chairman requires one set of rules for the accused and > another set of rules for the Chairman and the party. This is appears as high > handed and unpleasant as much of the actions by the National Republican > Committee during the Ron Paul campaign. > > I have all of these written communications downloaded to my personal > computer because the Chairman has direct access to all of our email accounts > and may at any time delete or change anything in any of our accounts as well > as bar any of us from access to their email account and who knows what other > unknown and unsuspected powers he holds over our communications. I suggest > you, too, may want to protect yourselves by keeping your own copy of > communications that pass through the official party email system. > > I know this is getting long but just by way of example as to what could > possibly happen just from postings on Facebook, if we allow this to proceed. > I have written the following, remember this could be anyone of us. These are > just examples, this could never come up as this person has already resigned. > This is just an example of how any malicious person could proceed. So let's > decide now not to conduct the party in this way. > > ========================== > > Charge one: Breach of confidentiality, conduct unbecoming, violations of > ethics. The evidence of this charge is below where Reed Ebarb and his co > conspirators, Mitch Dufour and Daniel Hayes, discuss in open forum his > intentional and malicious act of bringing the petty an malicious charges > with the intent of "Time for heads to roll." As you can see from the time > line this was IMMEDIATELY after his resignation. > > Reed Ebarb boasted of his intent to cause trouble in public on FB. Starting > a conversation on the subject. > > March 19 via mobile > > Time for heads to roll. --- with Daniel Hayes. > > Like . . Share > > Mitch Dufour ???.......... > > March 19 at 11:05pm . Like > > Reed Ebarb You'll have to call for the details on this one > > March 19 at 11:05pm via mobile . March 19 > > =========================== > > Charge two: Breach of Ethics and Conduct Unbecoming an officer of the State > Central Committee by attempting to solicit business for his new start up > business under the guise of a self centered self promoting Resignation > Letter. Such letter was also published in the open on Facebook. See below: > > Reed Ebarb > > March 19 > > Dear Fellow Libertarian, > > After serving with the Libertarian Party of Louisiana since April of 2012, I > have decided it is time for me to resign. I have made the decision to start > my own animal rescue in Shreveport and due to this, I can't serve on the > board of directors of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana any longer. > > When I was elected to the LPL board, we had only a few members, no income, > and no candidates. I spent most of 2012 recruiting congressional candidates, > recruiting members, and raising money. When it was all said and done, we had > 2 elected Libertarians and 5 congressional candidates. We raised more money > in 4 months than the party had raised in the last few years combined. It was > a tough year but by the end of 2012, many were talking about the resurgence > of Libertarians in Louisiana. > > Today, the LPL operates on a budget of more than $20,000, has a full board > of directors, has grown over 50%, and is already getting inquiries from > candidates wanting to run for office in 2014. We have come a very long way > in only a year and I am extremely proud to leave the party much stronger and > much larger than I found it. I am proud of each and every one of you for > everything we have done together. The party is larger than ever and still > growing. > > Although I must leave the board of directors, I hope to still hope to > volunteer where possible. I hope to slowly pass along all of my work and > lessons learned to one or more successors. I truly wish everyone the best > and I can always be reached on my cell phone. I will be resigning after the > April meeting to allow for a succession plan to be formed. > > In Liberty, > > Reed Ebarb > > Secretary, Interim Treasurer > > =============================== > > Charge three: Conduct unbecoming a SCC board member, poking fun at another > person's religion as evidenced by his very public comment on Facebook in his > timeline. Again as evidenced below: > > Reed Ebarb > > February 11 > > I am formally declaring my candidacy to be the next Pope. I look forward to > ruling over my Catholic subjects. > > ============================== > > Charge four: Conduct unbecoming a SCC board member, threatening and > advocating the use of violence against another human to solve a personal > issue. As evidenced below on his Facebook time line, see the following: > > Reed Ebarb > > January 21 > > Some guy pulled up at the shelter today with 4 dogs in the car and he was > holding a baseball to apparently "keep them in line". If I hadn't been at > work I would have taken that baseball bat and beat that little mother fucker > to within an inch of his life. See how he likes being kept in line. > > =============================== > > Charge five: Dereliction of duty, failure to mail the registered letter to > the Vice-Chairman in a timely manner. Thus, if the rules earlier sent by the > Chairman are to be followed, causing a Second SCC special board meeting to > be called to discuss the proposed charges. And thus costing the members of > the SCC great expense in time and money go attend said special meeting. As > evidenced below from his letter to the Chairman and the SCC: > > "This is a very quick heads up to everyone that my report will be a bit > delayedd, as will my responses to several emails. I have recently become > involved in legal preceedings in Shreveport and I also went through a > tornado yesterday at the animal shelter where I work so therefore, I imagine > I will be working the next week straight. If it is urgemt. please call me. > Otherwise, I will respond and finish a report ASAP." > > ================================ > > I remind you, I bring this to you to show you what could happen in the > future if we allow this witch hunt to proceed. Please not also, these > charges have actual substantial evidence attached, unlike the charges > brought against the Vice Chairman.. > > I submit that if this is to proceed, since the Vice-Chairman as defendant is > being prohibited from voting on these issues, the accusers, ALL of them, the > Secretary/Treasurer, and the Chairman must also be prohibited from voting on > these charges. Of course determining who "ALL of them" is will require a > distinct and independent investigation as some choose to hide under cover of > a front man. I also as representative of the Defense, must not vote on the > charges. The only people fit for the "jury" are those who have been neutral > up until this point and may be expected to weight this dispassionately and > fairly. Much as in a court law the judge, prosecution and the defense > attorney are not allowed to weigh guilt or innocence. > > ================================ > > *T Lee Horne, III* > > Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA > > President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 > > Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 > > Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 > > tleehorneiii at gmail.com > > 318-542-4445 google voice > > tleehorneiii skype > > *http://bit.ly/12zAQMS* > > I will now copy and paste the formerly private communication I sent. > Vice-Chairman Scott A. Lewis, III asked me to respond to the initial letter > as his defense. I would rather not have had to bring this forward, it is > quite unpleasant but I must. > > ATACHMENT ONE follows. > > =============================================== > > Fellow members of the State Central Committee, I have been made aware of an > email being circulated by our most esteemed and honorable Chairman. > > Mr. Chairman, > > I am disappointed in you. You decided to circulate this email accusation > with malice and forethought. You chose to exclude me from the discussion and > attempted to set up a kangaroo court with only your baseless innuendos and > accusations. I trust the rest of the state central committee will listen > with an open mind to the refutation of your specious accusations. Your > actions are reprehensible and unbefitting of the office. If anyone is liable > for removal from office for cause, it may be you. > > Fellow State Central Committee Members, > > It is with heavy heart and great sadness that I am forced to respond to > this. None of this should ever have been committed to writing, none of this > should ever have come before the committee. Our Chairman has allowed himself > to succumb to a fit of moral outrage. I know not from whence his groundless > anger arises. I do know that his entire diatribe is fallacious. Below is his > email as circulated and my refutation, line by line. > > =============================================================== > > This is interesting and I will address some of the points that I have direct > knowledge of. > > *A - Dereliction of Duty** > > *#1 - was not present for the convention at which he was elected, and at > which he was to serve as an officer, being already duly elected by the > previous convention. > > I, in my office as Chairman at the time, discussed with Vice Chairman Scott > Lewis the coming convention and determined his time would be better spent in > Baton Rouge and New Orleans than at the convention. The Vice Chairman was > specifically told by me, the Chairman at the time, that he did not need to > attend because his time could be put to better use in Baton Rouge and New > Orleans at a large NAACP event. The current Chairman could have easily > determined this by a simple phone call to me yet he chose this disruptive > method to bring this up as a Central Committee item. > > > #2 - was not present for the first SCC meeting as required of his office by > the LPL By-laws, preventing a quorum, causing members and officers to travel > at great expense to themselves without purpose. > > Both Vice Chairman Scott Lewis and I were under the distinct impression from > our understanding of party rules, rules we voted on that we could attend SCC > meetings electronically and we were both available to attend electronically. > I communicated with Reed and asked to be called so that I could attend if > needed for a quorum. I asked that Scott also be called so as to attend > electronically if need for quorum. After the meeting I called and spoke with > Secretary Reed Ebarb. He said the Chairman had an explanation of why Vice > Chairman Scott Lewis and I had not been called so that a quorum would be > present but the Secretary was not able to explain the reasons. > > > #3 - has failed to make any attempt to constitute the Strategic Planning > Committee as required of his office under the LPL By-laws, making only two > calls for "information" or "agenda items" but has not held a meeting, set a > date for a meeting, or had any other discussion on any matter of the committee. > > I cannot make first hand comments on this other than note that Vice Chairman > Scott Lewis and I had many long conversations as he tried to get this > Committee up and running wherein the Vice Chairman expressed his frustration > at not getting requested information from the Secretary and the Chairman. > Vice Chairman Scott Lewis asked for the email addresses for these > subcommittee chairmen and was denied these email addresses. Vice Chairman > Scott Lewis was also frustrated by being told several times by the Secretary > that this was not the time to contact the members of the Strategic Planning > committee. I will leave it to Scott Lewis to address this issue in more detail. > > > #4 - has failed to make any attempt to establish PECs for unorganized > parishes as required of his office under the LPL By-laws. > > I cannot make first hand comments on this. All I have is this, I know Vice > Chairman Scott Lewis was active in several attempts to form the Baton Rouge > PEC because I was present at two of those formation meeting. I will leave it > to Scott Lewis to address this issue more completely and directly. > > > #5 - has not performed any duties of unorganized parishes as required of his > office under the LPL By-laws. > > I cannot make first hand comments on this. All I have is what Scott Lewis > told me he was doing. I will leave it to Scott Lewis to address this issue > directly. > > *B - Conduct unbecoming* > > #1 - was late turning in his Affidavit of Acceptance Elector form. > > Whereas the first form was void in its form because the names were not > correct and thus useless, this is a specious charge. > > > #2 - failed to turn in his Affidavit of Acceptance Elector form, corrected > version. > > Note that the first form was turned in if later than optimal still in a full > timely fashion to get the party on the ballot. > > Phones work two ways. > > > #3 - failed to communicate why form was not turned in on time the first time. > > Whereas the first form was void in its form because the names were not > correct and thus useless, this is a specious charge. > > > #4 - failed to communicate why form was not turned in the second time. > > Phones work two ways. It seems the most reasonable and straight forward way > of dealing with this would be a phone call or series of call to inquire and > discuss resolution to the problem. There seems to be a pattern of failure to > communicate with the Vice Chairman by the Chairman and the Secretary. More > on this at point #8. > > > #5 - failed to display any concern for his tardiness in turning in forms. > > Would you have him tear the pocket off of his shirt and wail loudly Mea Culpa? > > Besides, I was told by more than one person the current Chairman and the > current Vice Chairman had a long and private conversation after the recent > SCC meeting on this subject. As to first hand information as to the > discussion, I have no direct knowledge. I was under the impression all these > issues had been resolved. > > > #6 - failed to display any interest in securing the form before the deadline. > > Once again, I was under the impression that the current Chairman and the > current Vice Chairman had a long and private conversation on this subject, > in which I was under the impression all these issues had been resolved. > > > #7 - lack of concern for known deadlines affecting ballot access. > > Once again, I was under the impression that the current Chairman and the > current Vice Chairman had a long and private conversation on this subject, > in which I was under the impression all these issues had been resolved. > > > #8 - causing the Chair to go to great personal effort and expense to remedy > his failure to file paperwork in a timely manner. > > Expense the Chair could have easily avoided by the simple expedient of using > the telephone, calling Vice Chairman Scott Lewis, and meeting the Vice > Chairman in Baton Rouge on the way to the Office of the Secretary of State. > For some reason unknown and unfathomable to me the Chair decided to instead > have another person sign the form thus requiring the Chair to drive to > Shreveport to meet with the Secretary. It is not the Vice Chairman's job to > tell the Chairman how to run the party, when the Chairman says words to the > effect that he will have someone else do the task. That is an Executive > decision.*The entirety of this problem, the costs, time, and inconvenience, > is on the head and shoulders of the Chairman.* > > > #9 - volunteering to be co-director of a Presidential Campaign for > Louisiana, and then failing to accomplish any task, attend any function, > offer any assistance, help with any planning or coordination of events, and > essentially holding the position in name only. > > I cannot make first hand comments on this. All I have is what Vice Chairman > Scott Lewis told me he was doing. I will leave it to Scott Lewis to address > this issue directly. What I do know is that Vice Chairman Scott Lewis has > distributed a large quantity of door hangers, yard signs and bumper stickers > in an around Baton Rouge. I do know that he has attended numerous events in > and around Baton Rouge speaking on behalf of the Presidential Candidate and > the Libertarian Congressional Candidate. He also gave signs to the > Congressional Candidates from both Alexandria and New Orleans. > > > #10 - making false and baseless accusations of racism of a fellow State > Central Committee member. > > > I cannot make first hand comments on this. What I can say is I have had a > long and positive working relationship with Vice Chairman Scott Lewis. Yes > there are some cultural differences that we have had to work through but > both of us were and are doing it. Phone calls and direct personal visits > help a great deal. As for the statement that Vice Chairman accused a fellow > State Central Committee member of being racist, I was not there and having > said that, I find it much out of character for Vice Chairman Scott Lewis. > > *C - Unethical conduct* > > #1 - attempted to get re-imbursed by the SCC for notarizing an Elector form > (2008) > > There is nothing unethical about asking to be re-imbursed for money paid out > of his pocket for the party. > > > #2 - attended a 2009 LSLA conference, at party expense, with the purpose of > learning more about new online database systems, but instead used the > opportunity to pitch a dubious fundraising scheme to other state chairs. > > Mr. Chairman, were you there or is this hear say and gossip? I cannot make > first hand comments on this. All I have is what Scott Lewis told me he was > doing. I will leave it to Scott Lewis to address this issue directly. > > > #3 - attempted to entice the LPL to enter into an expensive and poorly > worded contract to raise funds through a 3rd party via the selling of > medical information devices. (same scheme pitched at the LSLA) > > There is nothing unethical in pitching a plan or project in an attempt to > raise money for the party. Vice Chairman Scott Lewis comes to us with years > of experience in promoting events for various organizations including the > state Democratic Party, the state Republican Party, the NAACP and other > charitable and for profit organizations. When he hears the LPLA needs money > he suggests things he has done in the past. It is up the Party to decide if > any of the ideas are suitable for the party. > > > #4 - attempted to get re-imbursed for travel expenses incurred while > fulfilling duties of his office. (travel to and from SCC meetings) > > There is nothing unethical about asking to be re-imbursed for money paid. He > was not extorting money, only asking if the costs could be re-imbursed. > > > #5 - sought reimbursement for travel and lodging expenses to attend the > NAACP convention as a "liaison" to that organization and representative of > the LPL. > > There is nothing unethical about asking to be re-imbursed for money paid. He > was not extorting money, only asking if the costs could be re-imbursed. > > > #6 - attempted to get the party and an LP Congressional candidate to use his > personal business services at expense to the Party and to the Candidate. > > There is nothing unethical in pitching a plan or project in an attempt to > raise money. > > > #7 - has on numerous occasions, solicited interest in holding media events, > concerts, festivals et cetera, which would not be in any way linked to the > LPL, but which would be funded by the LPL, in exchange for a share of the > proceeds of such events. (if any) In all of these events, personal friends > and himself, were to also profit. > > There is nothing unethical in pitching a plan or project in an attempt to > raise money. > > > #8 - attempted to divert discussion at an SCC meeting concerning online > donation logistics, towards using his personal contacts or himself as > "bundlers" for LPL funds. > > There is nothing unethical in pitching a plan or project in an attempt to > raise money. > > > #9 - attempting to attend a private fundraiser for a Presidential Campaign > without making a required donation, and while inviting a guest who also > would not make a required donation, thus each of them partaking of access to > the candidate and party activists and of food and drink provided, without > contribution. > > As a member of the State Central Committee and Vice-Chairman, I think he, > the Chairman and Secretary should be entitled to free admission to such > events. I do not know and I suspect his guest was a member of the press. The > press is always granted free access to events and the associated food and > drink. > > ============================================== > > *In Conclusion: * > > *Mr. Chairman, if there is anyone derelict in his duty it is you for failure > to keep in close working contact and communication with your second in > command, the Vice Chairman. * > > *Mr. Chairman, if there is anyone guilty of conduct unbecoming to the office > it is you for the manner in which you handled this issue. * > > *Mr. Chairman, if there is anyone guilty of unethical conduct it is you for > making false charges, sending your unsubstantiated charges out to only part > of the State Central Committee and for failing to even ask the person you > lay charges on to respond before attempting sending out this diatribe.* > > ** > > *Fellow Central Committee Members, I call upon your good judgment to find > this attempt to besmirch the name, honor and reputation of our Vice Chairman > Scott Lewis, baseless and to rebuke the Chairman. I also ask the Chairman > formally apologize to the Vice Chairman for this dastardly attempt to remove > a good man from office. Mr. Chairman, I do not call for your resignation. > You are young and inexperienced. Learn from this. I have great hope for the > growth of the party under your leadership and in the future, please do not > let your misdirected personal anger override your good sense and customary > diplomacy.* > > ========================== > > The following is the current bill of charges against the Vice Chairman as > well as the responses I made as the defense spokesperson for the Vice > Chairman, note again the vague nature of most of the charges and the > repetition of charges already supposedly resolved. > > ATTACHMENT TWO > > Wes Benedict - Finance Officer > Howard Kearney - Membership Officer > Boyd Smith - Elections Officer > > Pursuant to the directions in the email from our Chairman, I have > information of bearing on this issue. I will ask you pursuant to the > directions, to not share this outside of your group and I include the > current party Chairman as OUTSIDE of this investigation group. " The > committee will conduct its investigation with the utmost discretion." > > Before we get into the charges I want you to know who Scott A. Lewis is. > > EDUCATION: > > High School- Southern Laboratory H.S. (lettered in football, basketball, > track, baseball and basket ball) > > COLLEGE: > > Grambling State University Louisiana (4 years) > > Southern University (1). > > All American - College Football, > > DRAFTED NFL 1971 second round, to the KANSAS CITY CHIEFS. > > NFL Professional Athlete (Kansas City CHIEFS and Houston OILERS) > > WFL World Football League: Chicago Fire and Detroit Wheels. > > EMPLOYMENT: > > Self-employed Businessman, Civil Rights Activist and Community Leader. > > Enjoyed 20 successful years functioning as CORPORATE MEDIA INDEPENDANT LIASON > > FOR/WITH: > > Communities, FORTUNE 500 International Corporations, National Political > Leaders, Community Leaders. > > CEO/President /Owner S. A. Lewis, III & Associates; and Stockholder of > Louisiana Inner City Business Alliance, Inc. d/b/a Louisiana Inner City > Business, publication > > Media Relations, Distribution, Marketing and Promotions. > > CULTURAL - ENTERTAINMENT - ARTISTIC ACCOLADES: > > One of the first minorities to successfully integrate California > Entertainment Industry as a grip at the Burbank Studios. > > Member of the Press WXOK, Radio 1460 AM (1972). > > PROFESSIONAL FILM-THEATER AFFILIATIONS: > > Black Theatre and Performing Arts (Houston, Texas) > > FILM CREDITS: > > 1974 American International Pictures, "Buck Town" directed by Arthur Marks. > > 1975 MGM Studios, "Drum" Directed by Steve Carver. > > AUDIO: > > Voice-overs for "Cooley High". > > INTERNSHIP: > > American International pictures for screening and editing. > > COMMUNITY SERVICE: > > (Houston, Texas) Project P.U.L.L. (Professional United Leadership League) > Director: Ernie Ladd. Focus: Youth building. > > Served on F.A.M.E. Inc., (Fraternal Athletic Marketing Enterprises, Inc.) > > Marketing Campaign Strategist for United Founders Insurance Company > designing advertising, placement and on-site promotions. > > Public Relations /Press Media liaison for Record Retailers Houston, Texas > > Professional Entertainers Events Security Coordinator PACE Management > (Houston, Texas) > > Professional Concert Event Coordinator /Press liaison for Professional > Entertainers > > Event Marketing /Promotion to the Stars (Houston, Texas) > > Artist Development Representatives for High Profile Recording Industry > Labels/Moguls > > Wrote and produced "Let's Set the Record Straight" and "The Evolution" > television programs > > Artist management various artist. > > Wrote and produced several songs for distribution, ("Gotta Lotta Respect") > Produced multiple video productions, LA > > Photographed a multitude of well known and not so well known people, LA > > Journalist/Editor/Photographer/Video News Producer > > Inducted into the Southern University Laboratory High School Athletic Hall > of Fame Awarded the Light House award. > > ORGANIZATIONS AND AFFILIATIONS PAST AND PRESENT: > > Member of Prince Hall Masonic Grand Lodge of Louisiana > > SAG - Screen Actors Guild > > YBPC - Young Black Programmers Coalition > > Kiwanis Club > > NAACP > > Honorary Louisiana Senator > > Honorary Louisiana State Representative > > Who's Who in Black Music > > BMI - Writer & Publisher > > YMCA - Black Achievers > > LECTURE: > > LA Edutainment Council for Touring United Recording Entrepreneurs > > Baton Rouge NAACP Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Celebration Committee > > The Black Family Leadership Plan > > Louisiana Music > > POLITICAL RACES: > > Secretary of State 2003 > > All 4143 precincts reporting > > "Al" Donovan (D) 22.42% 284125 > > Scott Lewis (O) 5.28% 66969 > > W. Fox McKeithen (R) 72.30% 916235 > > 2003 Results. > > Secretary of State 2007 > > All 3967 precincts reporting > > "Jay" Dardenne (R) 63.32% 757821 > > Scott Lewis (O) 5.41% 64723 > > "R." Wooley (D) 31.27% > > 2007 results > > Governor 2011 > > David Blanchard (N) 2.61% 26705 > > Leonard "Lenny" Bollingham (N) 0.51% 5242 > > "Ron" Ceasar (N) 0.80% 8179 > > Cary J. Deaton (D) 4.89% 50071 > > Tara Hollis (D) 17.88% 182925 > > "Bobby" Jindal (R) 65.80% 673239 > > William Robert "Bob" Lang, Jr. (N) 0.89% 9109 > > Scott Lewis (L) 1.22% 12528 > > "Niki Bird" Papazoglakis (D) 2.14% 21885 > > Ivo "Trey" Roberts (D) 3.25% 33280 > > 2011 results > > ============================================== > > With that in place, let's move on to the specious allegations and character > assassination attempt by parties who cower and hide behind anonymous masks > to hide their treachery. > > Charge 1. Dereliction of Duty of the Office of Vice-chairman > > Specification 1. Not being present for the convention at which he > was elected, and at which he was to serve as an officer, being already duly > elected by the previous convention. > > I, T. Lee Horne, III, was the Chairman at the referenced convention. I > specifically told Vice-Chairman Lewis that he should attend a large NAACP > conference in New Orleans to represent the Libertarian Party rather than > come to the convention. This charge is a vicious lie by a coward who remains > in the bushes throwing shit. > > Specification 2. Not being present for the first State Central > Committee meeting, held in Alexandria, Louisiana, such attendance being > required of his office by the By-laws, his absence preventing a quorum, > causing members and officers to travel at great expense to themselves > without purpose. > > Neither I T. Lee Horne, III nor Vice-Chairman Lewis attended in person, we > were readily available by telephone and I so notified the Secretary and the > Chairman that I would be ready and available should I be needed to reach a > quorum. There was no response from either saying that such was not > acceptable and such attendance by telephone had been acceptable during my > term as Chairman. > > Both Scott and I were under the distinct impression from our understanding > of party rules, rules we voted on that we could attend SCC meetings > electronically and we were both available to attend electronically. > > Specification 3. Not being present for a meeting of the Strategic > Planning Committee which he chairs, after calling the meeting, and inviting > members from other parts of the State to attend, causing them to travel at > great expense to themselves, and instead, attempting to chair a physical > meeting by telephone in violation of Robert's Rules of Order. > > Robert's Rules clearly state that policy of any group over ride Robert's > rules. It is and always was the policy of the Vice-Chairman to hold meetings > by telephone conference whenever possible to save time and travel money for > all members. He was not holding a dance class where the bodies had to be > present. > > Specification 4. Failing to make any attempt to establish Parish > Executive Committees for unorganized parishes as required of his office > under the By-laws, leaving the work instead to be done at great personal > effort and expense to the Executive Director, such work being outside the > Director's contract, and causing considerable difficulties in negotiating > agreeable payment terms for such contract. > > This requirement is a "best efforts" requirement. The Vice-Chairman has > worked in and around Baton Rouge as this is his natural base of operation > and East Baton Rouge PEC is proof of this work. > > Additionally the Vice-Chairman has made numerous trips to Alexandria, > Lafayette, Houma, Thibodaux, La Place and other cities in attempt to > establish activists who would form PECs in their Parishes. > > Once again this is baseless character assassination attempt by someone or > group who just does not like the person in the office of Vice-Chairman. > > Specification 5. In the absence of established Parish Executive > Committees, failing to take care that the duties assigned to these > committees are carried out in their respective parishes, either by his own > actions, or by the appointment of a parish director, organizer, or other > member as the By-laws require. > > Aside from this "requirement" being a best efforts requirement, how is the > Vice-Chairman to do this? Slavery has been outlawed for a very long time and > absent of people willing to do this work how can the Vice-Chairman make > anyone do anything against their free will. Indeed why would a good > Libertarian even suggest that he should do such a thing? Charges should be > brought against those who would even suggest such a thing. > > I submit that, if the Vice-Chairman is to be removed from office for > dereliction of duty, then each and every one of us is subject to the same > sanction right now today. > > ========================================================== > > The following were all long ago handled and resolved by the current Chairman > and Vice-Chairman and have no place in this proceeding. > > Charge 2. Conduct Unbecoming an Officer of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana. > > Specification 1. Failing to turn in his Affidavit of Acceptance form > for filing as a Presidential Elector. > > Whereas the first form was void in its form because the names were not > correct and thus useless, this is a specious charge. > > Specification 2. Failing to turn in his Affidavit of Acceptance > form, corrected version. > > Note that the first form was turned in if later than optimal still in a full > timely fashion to get the party on the ballot. > > Phones work two ways. Did anyone call the Vice-Chairman and ask or inquire > of him in any way? No, no one called. > > Specification 3. Failing to communicate why said form was not turned > in the first time in a timely manner. > > Whereas the first form was void in its form because the names were not > correct and thus useless, this is a specious charge. > > Specification 4. Failing to communicate why said form was not turned > in at all the second time. > > Phones work two ways. Did anyone call the Vice-Chairman and ask or inquire > of him in any way? Once again, no one called. > > Specification 5. Failing to display any concern for his tardiness in > turning in these critical forms. > > Would you have him tear the pocket off of his shirt and wail loudly Mea Culpa? > > I was under the impression that the current Chairman and the current Vice > Chairman had a long and private conversation on this subject, resolved all > these issues. Indeed, I personally spoke with the current Chairman who said > the Chairman and Vice-Chairman had resolved this in a phone conversation. > > Specification 6. Failing to display any interest in securing the > forms before the legal deadline. > > Once again, I was under the impression that the current Chairman and the > current Vice Chairman had a long and private conversation on this subject, > resolved all these issues. Indeed, I personally spoke with the current > Chairman who said the Chairman and Vice-Chairman had resolved this in a > phone conversation. > > Specification 7. Lack of concern for known deadlines affecting > ballot access for the Libertarian Presidential and Vice-Presidential candidates. > > Once again, I was under the impression that the current Chairman and the > current Vice Chairman had a long and private conversation on this subject, > resolved all these issues. Indeed, I personally spoke with the current > Chairman who said the Chairman and Vice-Chairman had resolved this in a > phone conversation. > > Specification 8. Causing the chair to go to great personal effort > and expense to remedy the officer's failure to file required legal paperwork > in a timely manner. > > Expense the Chairman could have easily avoided by the simple expedient of > using the telephone, calling the Vice-Chairman, and meeting the > Vice-Chairman in Baton Rouge on the way to the Office of the Secretary of > State. > > Once again, I was under the impression that the current Chairman and the > current Vice Chairman had a long and private conversation on this subject, > resolved all these issues. Indeed, I personally spoke with the current > Chairman who said the Chairman and Vice-Chairman had resolved this in a > phone conversation. > > If any of these are allowed to stand then none of us may ever count on > issues resolved directly between us and the Chairman being over and done > with but will rather come up over and over. That is just wrong unjust and > unfair. I don't know about you but I would not consider working with or > under the never ending threat of old resolved charges being brought up over > and over. > > ============================================================== > > Specification 9. Volunteering to be a co-director of a Presidential > campaign for Louisiana, and subsequently failing to accomplish any task, > attend any function, offer any assistance with any planning or coordination > of events, and essentially holding the position in name only. > > The person making this accusation needs to look in a mirror. The > Vice-Chairman called repeatedly to speak with Reed Ebarb on the campaign. > Reed Ebarb refused to take his calls, refused to answer any email > communications and indeed Reed Ebarb prohibited the Vice-Chairman and a > member of the Press James Terry, a Capital reporter for the Associated > Press, from attending and covering the Presidential campaign event in > Louisiana and thus denying our Presidential candidate good press coverage by > a major news outlet. Reed Ebarb should face charges on this but I convinced > the vice-Chairman to not push it for the good of the party. > > Specification 10. Making false and baseless accusations of racism > against a fellow state Central Committee member. > > From what I can see of Reed Ebarb's actions the shoe fits and he should wear > it. I am glad he resigned and I believe Reed Ebarb to be actively working to > destroy the party with this whole proceeding. > > Specification 11. Making an announcement for elective office in a > public forum without advising the State Central Committee in advance, > thereby raising questions among the general membership and the voting public > with respect to the Libertarian Party's implied endorsement of his > candidacy, and drawing their leadership into question accordingly. > > There is no party by law nor state ethics board violation here. Reed Ebarb > is on a personal vendetta. Reed Ebarb by his actions proven to be a > prejudice bigot. > > Specification 12. Failing to form an exploratory committee in > advance of this public announcement, making the announcement without any > established campaign committee, platform, or ready biography for prospective > voters and media. > > There is no party by law nor state ethics board violation here. But for the > record that little introduction I made at the beginning of this, well it has > been available on line for YEARS over on MySpace and other location so don't > even try to tell me any one made any good effort to find it. > > As for the platform and other issues, the Vice-Chairman came to the party > members in various on line forums and asked the members what was important > to them. The Vice-Chairman came to the members asking for assistance in > fleshing out the specifics, he already has the general state platform and > was asking for people to contribute specific issues. All he got for his > trouble was a ration of shit. That is no way to treat a candidate. > > Reed Ebarb is on a personal vendetta. He has by his actions in this matter > proven to be an unforgiving and unrepentant prejudice bigot. > > Specification 13. Failing to provide any such platform or > biographical statement upon the request of prospective voters, Officers and > other party members. > > This charge is just a rehash of the previous charge in another form solely > in an attempt to smear the Vice Chairman. > > Specification 14. Filing for elective office in 2011 and failing to > duly answer media inquiries, creating a poor impression on voters and media > of the Libertarian Party, its candidates, and its leadership. > > This is another load of crap. The Vice-Chairman did answer all but ONE > reporter. That reporter only gave one day for a replay saying, he would get > the information from the League of Women Voters site if the Vice-Chairman > did not answer this one reporter in the short dead line given. NOW, how can > the Vice-Chairman have had information up at the League of Women Voters and > this charge even be remotely valid? > > This once again is a person vendetta by bigots. > > ======================================================= > > Charge 3. Unethical Conduct > > Specification 1. Attempting to get reimbursed for the notarizing of > an Affidavit of Acceptance form in 2008, such cost, incidental to being a > candidate for elective office, being only legally payable by the candidate > or a candidate's committee, and which cannot be paid by the Party. > > There is nothing unethical about asking to be re-paid for money paid out of > his pocket for the party. Reed Ebarb was the representative for the > Candidate in the state and present when the request was made. Never did Reed > Ebarb clarify from whom the repayment was to come, thus causing the > Vice-Chairman to be unable to be reimbursed. Where I come from this is > called malicious and a setup. The man and his may as well be wearing white > sheet and hood. > > Specification 2. Attending a 2009 Libertarian State Leadership > Alliance conference, in the Chairman's proxy, at Party expense, for the > purpose of learning more about the new CiviCRM online database system, but > instead, using the opportunity to pitch a dubious fundraising scheme to > other state chairs in concert with a personal business partner who made the > trip, also at Party expense. > > I must ask of the anonymous accuser, were you there or is this hear say and > gossip as regards the activities of the Vice-Chairman at the conference? I > will grant that a business associate did go along and said business > associate paid for half the fuel, used his car and paid for half of the > room. The party preapproved the expense and did give the Vice-Chairman the > credit card to pay for the travel. The trip actually cost the party less. > > Specification 3. Soliciting the LPL to enter into an expensive and > poorly worded contract to raise funds for the Party through a 3rd party via > the selling of medical information devices, this being the same scheme > pitched at the aforementioned conference, and one in which he has personal > connections to the 3rd party which would profit from the contract. > > There is nothing unethical, immoral or illegal in pitching a plan or project > in an attempt to raise money for the party. There was no threat, no > extortion, this was just a business offer. > > Specification 4. Attempting to get reimbursed for travel expenses as > a condition of fulfilling duties of his office. (traveling to a and from > State Central Committee meetings) > > There is nothing unethical about asking to be re-paid for money paid. He was > not extorting money, only asking if the costs could be re-paid. > > Specification 5. Seeking reimbursement for travel and lodging to > attend the NAACP 2012 convention as a "liaison" to that organization and > representative of the Party. > > There is nothing unethical about asking to be re-paid for money paid. He was > not extorting money, only asking if the costs could be re-paid. > > Specification 6. Soliciting the Party and a Congressional candidate > to use his personal business services at expense to the Party and the Candidate. > > What? Do not sign painters and people making yard signs charge for their > work? The Vice-Chairman was offering his professional services at a discount > to his normal prices. There is nothing unethical in pitching a plan or > project in an attempt to do business with the party. There was no demand or > threat, only and offer. > > Specification 7. Using a Strategic Planning Committee meeting to > solicit the party again to use these same services. > > Again I ask, Do not sign painters and people making yard signs charge for > their work? The Vice-Chairman was offering his professional services at a > discount to his normal prices. There is nothing unethical in pitching a plan > or project in an attempt to do business with the party. There was no demand > or threat, only an offer. > > Specification 8. Using a Strategic Planning Committee meeting to > solicit volunteers and support from party activists and officers for his > campaign for elective office, rather than using the meeting to plan strategy > for the Party. > > How does anyone ethically and reasonably make such ludicrous charges? This > is just a rehash of Specification 12 above in the conduct unbecoming section > and I will answer it the same. > > As for the platform and other issues, the Vice-Chairman came to the party > members in various on line forums and asked the members what was important > to them. The Vice-Chairman came to the members asking for assistance in > fleshing out the specifics, he already has the general state platform and > was asking for people to contribute specific issues. All he got for his > trouble was a ration of shit. That is no way to treat a candidate. > > Specification 8. Using a Strategic Planning Committee meeting to > solicit volunteers and support from party activists and officers for his > campaign for elective office, rather than using the meeting to plan strategy > for the Party. > > This is the same charge reworded and as such just a rehash of Specification > 12 in the above section on conduct unbecoming. The answer is the same. > > As for the platform and other issues, the Vice-Chairman came to the party > members in various on line forums and asked the members what was important > to them. The Vice-Chairman came to the members asking for assistance in > fleshing out the specifics, he already has the general state platform and > was asking for people to contribute specific issues. All he got for his > trouble was a ration of shit. That is no way to treat a candidate. > > Specification 9. Attempting to involve the Party in an electronic > communications scheme which would expose its contact list to his personal > business interests. > > This is so vague as to be completely unanswerable. It is just another smear > by someone attempting a personal vendetta and character assassination. > > Specification 10. Has on numerous occasions, solicited interest in > holding media events, concerts, festivals et cetera, which would not in any > way be publicly linked to the Party, but which would be partly or entirely > funded by the Party, in exchange for a share of the proceeds of such events, > if any. In all of these events, personal friends and himself, were to also > profit. > > This is an interesting half truth. Yes money making events have been > proposed. The party is constantly and incessantly saying it needs money, has > no money can't do this or that because there is no money. The Vice-Chairman > has made good faith efforts to offer his services to the party for fund > raising. These are legitimate business offers and the party is and has > always been free to accept or decline. > > Specification 11. Attempting to divert discussion at a State Central > Committee meeting concerning online donation logistics towards using his > personal contacts or himself as "bundlers" for Party funds. > > I submit that there is not enough information in this charge to make a > response. Once again it appears to be the blather of a prejudice bigot > intent on smearing the Vice-Chairman. > > In any case, there is nothing unethical in pitching a plan or project in an > attempt to raise money. > > I submit that if the Vice-Chairman is to be removed from office for asking > if expenses incurred for the party at the direction and request of the party > could be repaid and for proposing money making projects then several others > must also be removed and NONE will ever be brave enough to ever again > suggest ways to raise money. > > ==================================== > > In summary, what you see before you gentlemen is an attempt by a party or > parties mostly unknown, cowardly hiding in the shadows making > unsubstantiated charges. Yes the party has a problem. The problem is with > this self-righteous, mean-spirited and bigoted crew and Reed Ebarb is the > current leader. > > As a friend of mine put it, "The have got together the mob. They have found > the rope. And they are going to hang someone." Do not let yourselves be the > tree these bastards use to hang a good man. > > Sincerely, > > T. Lee Horne, III > > for the defendant. > > *From:*scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] *On > Behalf Of *Adrien Monteleone > *Sent:* Friday, March 29, 2013 3:27 PM > *To:* Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors > *Subject:* Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Internal party foolishness. > > To all Board members, > > The following is my response to a communication from T. Lee Horne, who has > been communicating directly with Mr. Lewis through this present judicial action. > > I am now including the rest of you in this discussion because this has grown > beyond any attempt to handle this matter quietly and without full attention > of the Board. Please scroll down and read from the bottom up for the proper > order of the thread. You will see why I felt it necessary, since everyone > is now personally involved, that I chose to include the entire Board. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > What case does he intend to bring in a court? > > There is nothing illegal about an organization attempting to remove a member > or disciplining a member. > > Is the involvement of the NAACP mean he is alleging he can't be subject to > disciplinary procedures because of his skin color? > > Is he alleging he can never be removed from office through the rules and the > procedures in Robert's because of his skin color? > > No cause for relief from a court exists as of today. > > No action has been taken by the Board against him. > > Allegations are being investigated. There has not yet been a trial nor any > decision been made. He has not been harmed in any way, and certainly not > publicly. This information is strictly within the confines of the Board > members. > > Is he alleging just the mere investigation is an injury to him? > > Is a private organization powerless to investigate allegations against one > of its members? > > Is he alleging this powerlessness is simply due to his skin color? > > Recall, one of the allegations is an unsubstantiated claim of racism against > a fellow Board member. By threatening legal action on such grounds, and for > things which are according to our By-laws and accordingly under Robert's > Rules of Order as our Parliamentary authority, within the Board's > prerogative to engage in, he is in fact, making a blatant unsubstantiated > claim of racism. He is outright claiming that rightful action and behavior > by the Party is inherently racist, simply because of his skin color, thus > falsely claiming that he is not and can never be subject to any such > procedures or subject to enforcement of any rules or By-laws because of his > skin color. > > He just added another specification to his charges. > > And you just provided the evidence with his quote. > > And this time, it isn't against just one or two members, he is now claiming > the entire Board is racist just for the mere "crime" that some of them sit > on the Board. Recall, other Board members have not signed on to these > charges. No one, not even the Secretary has weighed in or commented on > them. And no such comments would even be appropriate at this time. (as I > think everyone recognizes) > > I made it clear that a committee was appointed to investigate the veracity > of the charges. Thus it is apparent, their status as fact is not yet > decided and no opinion should be offered on such until the committee issues > its report. > > Thus he is accusing everyone, who simply received notice as he has, of being > racist for their mere presence on the Board, and is threatening them with > legal action on such grounds. > > His legal counsel would do well to reconsider, as would he, so as not to be > sanctioned by any court of law for bringing a frivolous suit. There's not > much harsher a rebuke a court can issue an attorney beyond declaring their > suit "frivolous." Alleging a crime and demanding relief from a court, on > the grounds that members of the Board are merely members of the Board is a > good candidate for such a rebuke and dismissal of such a case "with > prejudice." (which is a legal term meaning "don't ever bring this before > this court again, as it will be dismissed outright without being considered. > And this is not appeal-able and will not be reconsidered.") > > Not only will this cause the Investigative Committee to add this to its > specification list, I doubt highly that it will engender him any votes in > support of his non-guilt or encourage anyone to give deference and vote to > retain him in his office. > > If his fate wasn't already sealed by a potentially long list of improper > actions if they are verified, this one action on his part, which now the > entire Board is aware of, may be sufficient to secure his removal, and > likely now expulsion and life-time banishment from the party. > > Lawsuits are an act of government force. As Libertarians, we do not believe > in initiating force to solve our disputes. In fact, we find it > reprehensible. We do of course allow for self-defense, or the proper seeking > of redress for previous injury or use of force by someone else upon us. > > Since no force has been used against Mr. Lewis, no any injury committed upon > him, and since an organization has every right and power to protect itself > from members it deems are harmful or destructive to its purpose, and since > the Board has not even heard all of the evidence or taken any official > decision on the allegations, Mr. Lewis' threat of the use of force might > well constitute an initial use, and would therefore be about as > un-Libertarian as one can muster without actually using direct physical > violence against someone. > > This may well provide the justification for penalties of expulsion and > life-time banishment. > > Mr. Lewis is making it clear by such threats that he has zero interest in > the Party and no concern for its purposes, or even respect for its most > basic tenet. > > As chairman, I will not allow this process to be turned into a round robin > circus of threats. > > The Board has to follow the procedures in Robert's Rules and our By-Laws, > and so does the accused. He will be given ample opportunity to defend > himself against any charges brought against him, if the investigators bring > any, the Board will then deliberate according to Robert's on the question of > guilt and the appropriate disciplinary measures if he is found guilty. > > I will also not allow this Board to be intimidated, in any way shape or > form, especially via threats of lawsuits for conducting themselves according > to our established and accepted By-Laws, Rules, and Parliamentary Authority > and certainly not for merely being members of the Board. > > Mr. Lewis VOLUNTEERED for this position and has served on this Board since > April 2008, and in his current capacity since September 2008. The rules and > procedures have never been secret from him. He has even voted, on the > record at conventions, to adopt the present By-laws which we all now serve > under. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > I hereby declare that it is the opinion of the Chair that such threats and > behavior on Mr. Lewis' part are entirely OUT OF ORDER and remonstrate him to > not only refrain from making any such further threats or making such similar > speech or comments, or taking any action upon such words and threats, but > call upon his IMMEDIATE, UNCONDITIONAL, and UNEQUIVOCAL apology to ALL Board > members. > > Since this infraction occurred outside of a meeting, but one that now the > entire Board is aware of, according to the procedures as outlined in ?61 of > Robert's Rules of Order, I, as Chairman of the Board, hereby instruct the > Investigative Committee to add to their list of Specifications under Charge > 3 - Unethical Conduct or whichever charge, or an additional charge if they > see fit, the aforementioned threats of use of government force against the > Board in general and a single member in particular, AND a Specification, > under whatever charge, or an additional charge, as they see fit, for the > unsubstantiated claims or insinuation of racism upon the entire Board or any > of them, simply for being on the Board, and for actions not yet taken, said > actions being within the prerogative of the Board under its right to > discipline its members and protect itself from members whom it deems > dangerous or destructive to itself and/or its purposes. > > > In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > On 3/28/13 2:24 PM, T Lee Horne III wrote: > > Adrien, > > I spoke with Scott Lewis at length just now. He is quite angry now. He > has been talking with his friends who are, as friends will be, very much > in his corner and they are not helping me calm him down. One of his > friends is a lawyer and is suggesting pro bono legal action against Reed > personally and the party in general. I'll need at least another over > night to work on calming this down. > > It may not calm down, in which case there will be blood in fields so to > speak. Reed will have won a very pyrrhic victory. It will cost him all > he has and all he may ever get just in legal fees. This could easily > turn into an NAACP vs. Libertarian Party of Louisiana State Central > Committee battle. There are a lot more of members at the NAACP than > there are at the LPLA. Can the treasury take this risk? > > As Scott said, "They formed the mob, they brought the rope and they are > looking for a tree and I'm going to defend myself." > > *T Lee Horne, III* > > Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA > > President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 > > Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 > > Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 > > tleehorneiii at gmail.com > > 318-542-4445 google voice > > tleehorneiii skype > > *http://bit.ly/12zAQMS* > > *From:*Adrien Monteleone [mailto:chairman at lplouisiana.org] > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 27, 2013 1:57 PM > *To:* Paladin at LPLouisiana.org > *Subject:* Re: Internal party foolishness. > > ... > > The Investigative Committee already has plans to talk to Scott once they > were informed he had received the official notice. > > (has he received it yet?) > > But certainly, they can do so now regardless. > > Charges do not have to be officially brought. They haven't even finished > investigating yet. > > This suggestion is perfectly within the framework of Robert's. > > I'll inform the Investigative Committee at once so they can contact Scott > and get this over with. > > If he resigns - and certainly if he does so to focus on the campaign, the > committee can simply drop the matter and return "no bill" as you suggest > since the issue would be a moot point. > > I wouldn't have him address the charges directly in any letter of > resignation though. They aren't public outside of the Board and never will > be. But his resignation will be official record if someone wants to read > it. Best to leave it speaking only of his campaign reasons. If he feels > compelled to say something in some fashion otherwise, perhaps the usual > artful phrases "differences of vision/opinion" or "irreconcilable > differences" would be best. > > If however, he waits too long and we have to proceed with a trial before he > offers to resign, the Board under Robert's can refuse the resignation as > affecting the trial and proceed anyway. Our By-laws state his resignation > is always effective without the need for acceptance, and this would still be > true, but the Board could proceed with the trial, still vote on guilt or > innocence, and still vote to impose other penalties or sanctions. The > sooner the resignation is offered the better. > > ... > > In Liberty,? ? ? Adrien Monteleone - Chairman? Libertarian Party of Louisiana? > > On 3/27/13 5:47 AM, T Lee Horne III wrote: > > Adrien, > > I sent the following to Scott Lewis this morning. > > Scott, > > ... > > I'm thinking it may be time to end the BS and go your own way. It's just > a matter of negotiation. To me the issue is clearing the charges with a > rebuttal and a resignation all at the same time in the same letter. That > will give you a clean exit and if the investigating tribunal will > return "No Bill" as in no charges you resign with a clean and clear > name. What say you? > > =========================== > > Adrien, do you think this can be done on the side of the party? I know > Scott wants to be able to say he resigned because he found his campaign > needed more attention and he did not feel he could effectively be > vice-chairman and run a full time campaign. I know we are bending things > a little and that is the art and science of political negotiation. > > *T Lee Horne, III* > > Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA > > President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 > > Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 > > Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 > > tleehorneiii at gmail.com > > 318-542-4445 Google voice > > tleehorneiii Skype > > *http://bit.ly/12zAQMS* > > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 4/1/13 11:25 AM, Membership LPL wrote: > > I've met Sal and consider him a thoughtful and organized individual of the > two times I've met him. He was just elected as the Chair of St. Tammany PEC. > If he is willing / able to serve, I second the nomination. > > --------------------------- > > Howard Kearney > > Membership > > *From:*scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] *On > Behalf Of *Boyd Smith > *Sent:* Monday, April 01, 2013 10:35 AM > *To:* Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors > *Subject:* Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Resignation > > Sal Giangrosso is the name. > > bws > > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: chairman.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 283 bytes Desc: not available URL: From chairman at lplouisiana.org Mon Apr 1 14:16:24 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 14:16:24 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Question on eligibility to vote and abstentions In-Reply-To: References: <000001ce2ad8$6d90ed00$48b2c700$@org> <515332D3.90406@lplouisiana.org> <004301ce2be9$e2caa9f0$a85ffdd0$@org> <5155EB15.5040202@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <5159DD08.4@lplouisiana.org> On the question of who can or should be allowed to vote on questions of guilt and discipline at a trial, I'll refer everyone to Robert's. ?61 in part: "/Trial Procedure./ ...(c)When the closing arguments have been completed, the accused must leave the room." and "...the managers, defense counsel (if members of the society), and member witnesses for both sides remain, take part in the discussion, and vote as any other members." (note - defense counsel must be members of the LPL unless the Board votes otherwise) To claim the accused can vote on his own guilt or innocence and vote on his own punishment if found guilty is patently absurd. It can introduce the very real possibility that the accused could prevent a vote of guilty, or prevent punishment, or influence it, simply by his vote should the math work out that way. A society could not therefore protect itself from the very member it is seeking to discipline. Additionally, declaring ineligible to vote, anyone who hasn't remained silent would in this case leave an insufficient number to vote to find guilt or to impose punishment and certainly not to secure removal, according to our rules or Robert's. It might even, if no one remained silent, make it possible for ANYONE to vote on such a matter. The accused or his counsel in such a case, could goad each member one by one to making any sort of statement on the matter and thus render them "ineligible." This proposition likewise is patently absurd. There is no such provision in Robert's and in fact, Robert's directly contravenes the member's suggestion on such matters. There is no "jury" in the traditional sense of a court room. In the case of an organized society, the removal of an officer is to be voted on by the members of that society. Our By-laws provide the Board with the power to remove with a 2/3 vote. The other option is a special convention. In either case, the managers (the Investigative Committee), the defense counsel, the witnesses, and all other pertinent members (be they Board members in the case of a Board action, or ALL delegates in the case of a convention) are eligible to vote. Only the accused cannot cast a vote on his own fate, for the obvious and stated reasons.(and the fact that his membership privileges, and thus his office, are temporarily suspended accordingly) Members are free of course to abstain, but should be aware that in the case of a Board action, which we are proceeding under, an abstention has the effect of a "no" vote. Certainly, members should not express how they intend to vote before they hear the evidence at trial, but they are under no moral duty to abstain, and the case can be made under Robert's that as members they have a duty to protect their organization and thus to cast a vote. The reason an abstention equates to "no" is because our rules require a 2/3 vote of all Board members to remove, not 2/3 of those voting. Thus if we had 15 members, 2/3 would be 10. If two of the 15 abstain, 10 are still needed to remove instead of 9, because 10 is 2/3 of the Board. I presume this was put in place to prevent a smaller quorum from holding a meeting and removing with a minority of the total Board casting votes to do so. We will however, vote on each specification and each charge separately. A majority of those voting is necessary to make a finding of "guilty" on any one of them. It would be possible therefore, for a member to abstain on the questions of guilt for each specification and charge, and then cast a vote on the punishment which is decided separately and only after guilt is determined. However, if only a small number of members are left actually voting on questions of guilt, this could render additional problems and raise more division in the Board. It would be best to cast a vote on guilt no matter what, according to your own convictions and let the chips fall where they may. All votes on such questions, as well as on the punishment(s) if any, will be by paper secret ballot. No one will know, unless the vote is unanimous, how each member voted. Still, it is understandable if some members feel obliged (thought they are not) to abstain on questions of guilt. They should certainly however, cast votes on questions of punishment if guilt is determined. In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana > I submit that if this is to proceed, since the Vice-Chairman as defendant is > being prohibited from voting on these issues, the accusers, ALL of them, the > Secretary/Treasurer, and the Chairman must also be prohibited from voting on > these charges. Of course determining who "ALL of them" is will require a > distinct and independent investigation as some choose to hide under cover of > a front man. I also as representative of the Defense, must not vote on the > charges. The only people fit for the "jury" are those who have been neutral > up until this point and may be expected to weight this dispassionately and > fairly. Much as in a court law the judge, prosecution and the defense > attorney are not allowed to weigh guilt or innocence. > > ================================ > > *T Lee Horne, III* > > Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA > > President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 > > Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 > > Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 > > tleehorneiii at gmail.com > > 318-542-4445 google voice > > tleehorneiii skype > > *http://bit.ly/12zAQMS* > > I will now copy and paste the formerly private communication I sent. > Vice-Chairman Scott A. Lewis, III asked me to respond to the initial letter > as his defense. I would rather not have had to bring this forward, it is > quite unpleasant but I must. > > ATACHMENT ONE follows. > > =============================================== > > Fellow members of the State Central Committee, I have been made aware of an > email being circulated by our most esteemed and honorable Chairman. > > Mr. Chairman, > > I am disappointed in you. You decided to circulate this email accusation > with malice and forethought. You chose to exclude me from the discussion and > attempted to set up a kangaroo court with only your baseless innuendos and > accusations. I trust the rest of the state central committee will listen > with an open mind to the refutation of your specious accusations. Your > actions are reprehensible and unbefitting of the office. If anyone is liable > for removal from office for cause, it may be you. > > Fellow State Central Committee Members, > > It is with heavy heart and great sadness that I am forced to respond to > this. None of this should ever have been committed to writing, none of this > should ever have come before the committee. Our Chairman has allowed himself > to succumb to a fit of moral outrage. I know not from whence his groundless > anger arises. I do know that his entire diatribe is fallacious. Below is his > email as circulated and my refutation, line by line. > > =============================================================== > > This is interesting and I will address some of the points that I have direct > knowledge of. > > *A - Dereliction of Duty** > > *#1 - was not present for the convention at which he was elected, and at > which he was to serve as an officer, being already duly elected by the > previous convention. > > I, in my office as Chairman at the time, discussed with Vice Chairman Scott > Lewis the coming convention and determined his time would be better spent in > Baton Rouge and New Orleans than at the convention. The Vice Chairman was > specifically told by me, the Chairman at the time, that he did not need to > attend because his time could be put to better use in Baton Rouge and New > Orleans at a large NAACP event. The current Chairman could have easily > determined this by a simple phone call to me yet he chose this disruptive > method to bring this up as a Central Committee item. > > > #2 - was not present for the first SCC meeting as required of his office by > the LPL By-laws, preventing a quorum, causing members and officers to travel > at great expense to themselves without purpose. > > Both Vice Chairman Scott Lewis and I were under the distinct impression from > our understanding of party rules, rules we voted on that we could attend SCC > meetings electronically and we were both available to attend electronically. > I communicated with Reed and asked to be called so that I could attend if > needed for a quorum. I asked that Scott also be called so as to attend > electronically if need for quorum. After the meeting I called and spoke with > Secretary Reed Ebarb. He said the Chairman had an explanation of why Vice > Chairman Scott Lewis and I had not been called so that a quorum would be > present but the Secretary was not able to explain the reasons. > > > #3 - has failed to make any attempt to constitute the Strategic Planning > Committee as required of his office under the LPL By-laws, making only two > calls for "information" or "agenda items" but has not held a meeting, set a > date for a meeting, or had any other discussion on any matter of the committee. > > I cannot make first hand comments on this other than note that Vice Chairman > Scott Lewis and I had many long conversations as he tried to get this > Committee up and running wherein the Vice Chairman expressed his frustration > at not getting requested information from the Secretary and the Chairman. > Vice Chairman Scott Lewis asked for the email addresses for these > subcommittee chairmen and was denied these email addresses. Vice Chairman > Scott Lewis was also frustrated by being told several times by the Secretary > that this was not the time to contact the members of the Strategic Planning > committee. I will leave it to Scott Lewis to address this issue in more detail. > > > #4 - has failed to make any attempt to establish PECs for unorganized > parishes as required of his office under the LPL By-laws. > > I cannot make first hand comments on this. All I have is this, I know Vice > Chairman Scott Lewis was active in several attempts to form the Baton Rouge > PEC because I was present at two of those formation meeting. I will leave it > to Scott Lewis to address this issue more completely and directly. > > > #5 - has not performed any duties of unorganized parishes as required of his > office under the LPL By-laws. > > I cannot make first hand comments on this. All I have is what Scott Lewis > told me he was doing. I will leave it to Scott Lewis to address this issue > directly. > > *B - Conduct unbecoming* > > #1 - was late turning in his Affidavit of Acceptance Elector form. > > Whereas the first form was void in its form because the names were not > correct and thus useless, this is a specious charge. > > > #2 - failed to turn in his Affidavit of Acceptance Elector form, corrected > version. > > Note that the first form was turned in if later than optimal still in a full > timely fashion to get the party on the ballot. > > Phones work two ways. > > > #3 - failed to communicate why form was not turned in on time the first time. > > Whereas the first form was void in its form because the names were not > correct and thus useless, this is a specious charge. > > > #4 - failed to communicate why form was not turned in the second time. > > Phones work two ways. It seems the most reasonable and straight forward way > of dealing with this would be a phone call or series of call to inquire and > discuss resolution to the problem. There seems to be a pattern of failure to > communicate with the Vice Chairman by the Chairman and the Secretary. More > on this at point #8. > > > #5 - failed to display any concern for his tardiness in turning in forms. > > Would you have him tear the pocket off of his shirt and wail loudly Mea Culpa? > > Besides, I was told by more than one person the current Chairman and the > current Vice Chairman had a long and private conversation after the recent > SCC meeting on this subject. As to first hand information as to the > discussion, I have no direct knowledge. I was under the impression all these > issues had been resolved. > > > #6 - failed to display any interest in securing the form before the deadline. > > Once again, I was under the impression that the current Chairman and the > current Vice Chairman had a long and private conversation on this subject, > in which I was under the impression all these issues had been resolved. > > > #7 - lack of concern for known deadlines affecting ballot access. > > Once again, I was under the impression that the current Chairman and the > current Vice Chairman had a long and private conversation on this subject, > in which I was under the impression all these issues had been resolved. > > > #8 - causing the Chair to go to great personal effort and expense to remedy > his failure to file paperwork in a timely manner. > > Expense the Chair could have easily avoided by the simple expedient of using > the telephone, calling Vice Chairman Scott Lewis, and meeting the Vice > Chairman in Baton Rouge on the way to the Office of the Secretary of State. > For some reason unknown and unfathomable to me the Chair decided to instead > have another person sign the form thus requiring the Chair to drive to > Shreveport to meet with the Secretary. It is not the Vice Chairman's job to > tell the Chairman how to run the party, when the Chairman says words to the > effect that he will have someone else do the task. That is an Executive > decision.*The entirety of this problem, the costs, time, and inconvenience, > is on the head and shoulders of the Chairman.* > > > #9 - volunteering to be co-director of a Presidential Campaign for > Louisiana, and then failing to accomplish any task, attend any function, > offer any assistance, help with any planning or coordination of events, and > essentially holding the position in name only. > > I cannot make first hand comments on this. All I have is what Vice Chairman > Scott Lewis told me he was doing. I will leave it to Scott Lewis to address > this issue directly. What I do know is that Vice Chairman Scott Lewis has > distributed a large quantity of door hangers, yard signs and bumper stickers > in an around Baton Rouge. I do know that he has attended numerous events in > and around Baton Rouge speaking on behalf of the Presidential Candidate and > the Libertarian Congressional Candidate. He also gave signs to the > Congressional Candidates from both Alexandria and New Orleans. > > > #10 - making false and baseless accusations of racism of a fellow State > Central Committee member. > > > I cannot make first hand comments on this. What I can say is I have had a > long and positive working relationship with Vice Chairman Scott Lewis. Yes > there are some cultural differences that we have had to work through but > both of us were and are doing it. Phone calls and direct personal visits > help a great deal. As for the statement that Vice Chairman accused a fellow > State Central Committee member of being racist, I was not there and having > said that, I find it much out of character for Vice Chairman Scott Lewis. > > *C - Unethical conduct* > > #1 - attempted to get re-imbursed by the SCC for notarizing an Elector form > (2008) > > There is nothing unethical about asking to be re-imbursed for money paid out > of his pocket for the party. > > > #2 - attended a 2009 LSLA conference, at party expense, with the purpose of > learning more about new online database systems, but instead used the > opportunity to pitch a dubious fundraising scheme to other state chairs. > > Mr. Chairman, were you there or is this hear say and gossip? I cannot make > first hand comments on this. All I have is what Scott Lewis told me he was > doing. I will leave it to Scott Lewis to address this issue directly. > > > #3 - attempted to entice the LPL to enter into an expensive and poorly > worded contract to raise funds through a 3rd party via the selling of > medical information devices. (same scheme pitched at the LSLA) > > There is nothing unethical in pitching a plan or project in an attempt to > raise money for the party. Vice Chairman Scott Lewis comes to us with years > of experience in promoting events for various organizations including the > state Democratic Party, the state Republican Party, the NAACP and other > charitable and for profit organizations. When he hears the LPLA needs money > he suggests things he has done in the past. It is up the Party to decide if > any of the ideas are suitable for the party. > > > #4 - attempted to get re-imbursed for travel expenses incurred while > fulfilling duties of his office. (travel to and from SCC meetings) > > There is nothing unethical about asking to be re-imbursed for money paid. He > was not extorting money, only asking if the costs could be re-imbursed. > > > #5 - sought reimbursement for travel and lodging expenses to attend the > NAACP convention as a "liaison" to that organization and representative of > the LPL. > > There is nothing unethical about asking to be re-imbursed for money paid. He > was not extorting money, only asking if the costs could be re-imbursed. > > > #6 - attempted to get the party and an LP Congressional candidate to use his > personal business services at expense to the Party and to the Candidate. > > There is nothing unethical in pitching a plan or project in an attempt to > raise money. > > > #7 - has on numerous occasions, solicited interest in holding media events, > concerts, festivals et cetera, which would not be in any way linked to the > LPL, but which would be funded by the LPL, in exchange for a share of the > proceeds of such events. (if any) In all of these events, personal friends > and himself, were to also profit. > > There is nothing unethical in pitching a plan or project in an attempt to > raise money. > > > #8 - attempted to divert discussion at an SCC meeting concerning online > donation logistics, towards using his personal contacts or himself as > "bundlers" for LPL funds. > > There is nothing unethical in pitching a plan or project in an attempt to > raise money. > > > #9 - attempting to attend a private fundraiser for a Presidential Campaign > without making a required donation, and while inviting a guest who also > would not make a required donation, thus each of them partaking of access to > the candidate and party activists and of food and drink provided, without > contribution. > > As a member of the State Central Committee and Vice-Chairman, I think he, > the Chairman and Secretary should be entitled to free admission to such > events. I do not know and I suspect his guest was a member of the press. The > press is always granted free access to events and the associated food and > drink. > > ============================================== > > *In Conclusion: * > > *Mr. Chairman, if there is anyone derelict in his duty it is you for failure > to keep in close working contact and communication with your second in > command, the Vice Chairman. * > > *Mr. Chairman, if there is anyone guilty of conduct unbecoming to the office > it is you for the manner in which you handled this issue. * > > *Mr. Chairman, if there is anyone guilty of unethical conduct it is you for > making false charges, sending your unsubstantiated charges out to only part > of the State Central Committee and for failing to even ask the person you > lay charges on to respond before attempting sending out this diatribe.* > > ** > > *Fellow Central Committee Members, I call upon your good judgment to find > this attempt to besmirch the name, honor and reputation of our Vice Chairman > Scott Lewis, baseless and to rebuke the Chairman. I also ask the Chairman > formally apologize to the Vice Chairman for this dastardly attempt to remove > a good man from office. Mr. Chairman, I do not call for your resignation. > You are young and inexperienced. Learn from this. I have great hope for the > growth of the party under your leadership and in the future, please do not > let your misdirected personal anger override your good sense and customary > diplomacy.* > > ========================== > > The following is the current bill of charges against the Vice Chairman as > well as the responses I made as the defense spokesperson for the Vice > Chairman, note again the vague nature of most of the charges and the > repetition of charges already supposedly resolved. > > ATTACHMENT TWO > > Wes Benedict - Finance Officer > Howard Kearney - Membership Officer > Boyd Smith - Elections Officer > > Pursuant to the directions in the email from our Chairman, I have > information of bearing on this issue. I will ask you pursuant to the > directions, to not share this outside of your group and I include the > current party Chairman as OUTSIDE of this investigation group. " The > committee will conduct its investigation with the utmost discretion." > > Before we get into the charges I want you to know who Scott A. Lewis is. > > EDUCATION: > > High School- Southern Laboratory H.S. (lettered in football, basketball, > track, baseball and basket ball) > > COLLEGE: > > Grambling State University Louisiana (4 years) > > Southern University (1). > > All American - College Football, > > DRAFTED NFL 1971 second round, to the KANSAS CITY CHIEFS. > > NFL Professional Athlete (Kansas City CHIEFS and Houston OILERS) > > WFL World Football League: Chicago Fire and Detroit Wheels. > > EMPLOYMENT: > > Self-employed Businessman, Civil Rights Activist and Community Leader. > > Enjoyed 20 successful years functioning as CORPORATE MEDIA INDEPENDANT LIASON > > FOR/WITH: > > Communities, FORTUNE 500 International Corporations, National Political > Leaders, Community Leaders. > > CEO/President /Owner S. A. Lewis, III & Associates; and Stockholder of > Louisiana Inner City Business Alliance, Inc. d/b/a Louisiana Inner City > Business, publication > > Media Relations, Distribution, Marketing and Promotions. > > CULTURAL - ENTERTAINMENT - ARTISTIC ACCOLADES: > > One of the first minorities to successfully integrate California > Entertainment Industry as a grip at the Burbank Studios. > > Member of the Press WXOK, Radio 1460 AM (1972). > > PROFESSIONAL FILM-THEATER AFFILIATIONS: > > Black Theatre and Performing Arts (Houston, Texas) > > FILM CREDITS: > > 1974 American International Pictures, "Buck Town" directed by Arthur Marks. > > 1975 MGM Studios, "Drum" Directed by Steve Carver. > > AUDIO: > > Voice-overs for "Cooley High". > > INTERNSHIP: > > American International pictures for screening and editing. > > COMMUNITY SERVICE: > > (Houston, Texas) Project P.U.L.L. (Professional United Leadership League) > Director: Ernie Ladd. Focus: Youth building. > > Served on F.A.M.E. Inc., (Fraternal Athletic Marketing Enterprises, Inc.) > > Marketing Campaign Strategist for United Founders Insurance Company > designing advertising, placement and on-site promotions. > > Public Relations /Press Media liaison for Record Retailers Houston, Texas > > Professional Entertainers Events Security Coordinator PACE Management > (Houston, Texas) > > Professional Concert Event Coordinator /Press liaison for Professional > Entertainers > > Event Marketing /Promotion to the Stars (Houston, Texas) > > Artist Development Representatives for High Profile Recording Industry > Labels/Moguls > > Wrote and produced "Let's Set the Record Straight" and "The Evolution" > television programs > > Artist management various artist. > > Wrote and produced several songs for distribution, ("Gotta Lotta Respect") > Produced multiple video productions, LA > > Photographed a multitude of well known and not so well known people, LA > > Journalist/Editor/Photographer/Video News Producer > > Inducted into the Southern University Laboratory High School Athletic Hall > of Fame Awarded the Light House award. > > ORGANIZATIONS AND AFFILIATIONS PAST AND PRESENT: > > Member of Prince Hall Masonic Grand Lodge of Louisiana > > SAG - Screen Actors Guild > > YBPC - Young Black Programmers Coalition > > Kiwanis Club > > NAACP > > Honorary Louisiana Senator > > Honorary Louisiana State Representative > > Who's Who in Black Music > > BMI - Writer & Publisher > > YMCA - Black Achievers > > LECTURE: > > LA Edutainment Council for Touring United Recording Entrepreneurs > > Baton Rouge NAACP Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Celebration Committee > > The Black Family Leadership Plan > > Louisiana Music > > POLITICAL RACES: > > Secretary of State 2003 > > All 4143 precincts reporting > > "Al" Donovan (D) 22.42% 284125 > > Scott Lewis (O) 5.28% 66969 > > W. Fox McKeithen (R) 72.30% 916235 > > 2003 Results. > > Secretary of State 2007 > > All 3967 precincts reporting > > "Jay" Dardenne (R) 63.32% 757821 > > Scott Lewis (O) 5.41% 64723 > > "R." Wooley (D) 31.27% > > 2007 results > > Governor 2011 > > David Blanchard (N) 2.61% 26705 > > Leonard "Lenny" Bollingham (N) 0.51% 5242 > > "Ron" Ceasar (N) 0.80% 8179 > > Cary J. Deaton (D) 4.89% 50071 > > Tara Hollis (D) 17.88% 182925 > > "Bobby" Jindal (R) 65.80% 673239 > > William Robert "Bob" Lang, Jr. (N) 0.89% 9109 > > Scott Lewis (L) 1.22% 12528 > > "Niki Bird" Papazoglakis (D) 2.14% 21885 > > Ivo "Trey" Roberts (D) 3.25% 33280 > > 2011 results > > ============================================== > > With that in place, let's move on to the specious allegations and character > assassination attempt by parties who cower and hide behind anonymous masks > to hide their treachery. > > Charge 1. Dereliction of Duty of the Office of Vice-chairman > > Specification 1. Not being present for the convention at which he > was elected, and at which he was to serve as an officer, being already duly > elected by the previous convention. > > I, T. Lee Horne, III, was the Chairman at the referenced convention. I > specifically told Vice-Chairman Lewis that he should attend a large NAACP > conference in New Orleans to represent the Libertarian Party rather than > come to the convention. This charge is a vicious lie by a coward who remains > in the bushes throwing shit. > > Specification 2. Not being present for the first State Central > Committee meeting, held in Alexandria, Louisiana, such attendance being > required of his office by the By-laws, his absence preventing a quorum, > causing members and officers to travel at great expense to themselves > without purpose. > > Neither I T. Lee Horne, III nor Vice-Chairman Lewis attended in person, we > were readily available by telephone and I so notified the Secretary and the > Chairman that I would be ready and available should I be needed to reach a > quorum. There was no response from either saying that such was not > acceptable and such attendance by telephone had been acceptable during my > term as Chairman. > > Both Scott and I were under the distinct impression from our understanding > of party rules, rules we voted on that we could attend SCC meetings > electronically and we were both available to attend electronically. > > Specification 3. Not being present for a meeting of the Strategic > Planning Committee which he chairs, after calling the meeting, and inviting > members from other parts of the State to attend, causing them to travel at > great expense to themselves, and instead, attempting to chair a physical > meeting by telephone in violation of Robert's Rules of Order. > > Robert's Rules clearly state that policy of any group over ride Robert's > rules. It is and always was the policy of the Vice-Chairman to hold meetings > by telephone conference whenever possible to save time and travel money for > all members. He was not holding a dance class where the bodies had to be > present. > > Specification 4. Failing to make any attempt to establish Parish > Executive Committees for unorganized parishes as required of his office > under the By-laws, leaving the work instead to be done at great personal > effort and expense to the Executive Director, such work being outside the > Director's contract, and causing considerable difficulties in negotiating > agreeable payment terms for such contract. > > This requirement is a "best efforts" requirement. The Vice-Chairman has > worked in and around Baton Rouge as this is his natural base of operation > and East Baton Rouge PEC is proof of this work. > > Additionally the Vice-Chairman has made numerous trips to Alexandria, > Lafayette, Houma, Thibodaux, La Place and other cities in attempt to > establish activists who would form PECs in their Parishes. > > Once again this is baseless character assassination attempt by someone or > group who just does not like the person in the office of Vice-Chairman. > > Specification 5. In the absence of established Parish Executive > Committees, failing to take care that the duties assigned to these > committees are carried out in their respective parishes, either by his own > actions, or by the appointment of a parish director, organizer, or other > member as the By-laws require. > > Aside from this "requirement" being a best efforts requirement, how is the > Vice-Chairman to do this? Slavery has been outlawed for a very long time and > absent of people willing to do this work how can the Vice-Chairman make > anyone do anything against their free will. Indeed why would a good > Libertarian even suggest that he should do such a thing? Charges should be > brought against those who would even suggest such a thing. > > I submit that, if the Vice-Chairman is to be removed from office for > dereliction of duty, then each and every one of us is subject to the same > sanction right now today. > > ========================================================== > > The following were all long ago handled and resolved by the current Chairman > and Vice-Chairman and have no place in this proceeding. > > Charge 2. Conduct Unbecoming an Officer of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana. > > Specification 1. Failing to turn in his Affidavit of Acceptance form > for filing as a Presidential Elector. > > Whereas the first form was void in its form because the names were not > correct and thus useless, this is a specious charge. > > Specification 2. Failing to turn in his Affidavit of Acceptance > form, corrected version. > > Note that the first form was turned in if later than optimal still in a full > timely fashion to get the party on the ballot. > > Phones work two ways. Did anyone call the Vice-Chairman and ask or inquire > of him in any way? No, no one called. > > Specification 3. Failing to communicate why said form was not turned > in the first time in a timely manner. > > Whereas the first form was void in its form because the names were not > correct and thus useless, this is a specious charge. > > Specification 4. Failing to communicate why said form was not turned > in at all the second time. > > Phones work two ways. Did anyone call the Vice-Chairman and ask or inquire > of him in any way? Once again, no one called. > > Specification 5. Failing to display any concern for his tardiness in > turning in these critical forms. > > Would you have him tear the pocket off of his shirt and wail loudly Mea Culpa? > > I was under the impression that the current Chairman and the current Vice > Chairman had a long and private conversation on this subject, resolved all > these issues. Indeed, I personally spoke with the current Chairman who said > the Chairman and Vice-Chairman had resolved this in a phone conversation. > > Specification 6. Failing to display any interest in securing the > forms before the legal deadline. > > Once again, I was under the impression that the current Chairman and the > current Vice Chairman had a long and private conversation on this subject, > resolved all these issues. Indeed, I personally spoke with the current > Chairman who said the Chairman and Vice-Chairman had resolved this in a > phone conversation. > > Specification 7. Lack of concern for known deadlines affecting > ballot access for the Libertarian Presidential and Vice-Presidential candidates. > > Once again, I was under the impression that the current Chairman and the > current Vice Chairman had a long and private conversation on this subject, > resolved all these issues. Indeed, I personally spoke with the current > Chairman who said the Chairman and Vice-Chairman had resolved this in a > phone conversation. > > Specification 8. Causing the chair to go to great personal effort > and expense to remedy the officer's failure to file required legal paperwork > in a timely manner. > > Expense the Chairman could have easily avoided by the simple expedient of > using the telephone, calling the Vice-Chairman, and meeting the > Vice-Chairman in Baton Rouge on the way to the Office of the Secretary of > State. > > Once again, I was under the impression that the current Chairman and the > current Vice Chairman had a long and private conversation on this subject, > resolved all these issues. Indeed, I personally spoke with the current > Chairman who said the Chairman and Vice-Chairman had resolved this in a > phone conversation. > > If any of these are allowed to stand then none of us may ever count on > issues resolved directly between us and the Chairman being over and done > with but will rather come up over and over. That is just wrong unjust and > unfair. I don't know about you but I would not consider working with or > under the never ending threat of old resolved charges being brought up over > and over. > > ============================================================== > > Specification 9. Volunteering to be a co-director of a Presidential > campaign for Louisiana, and subsequently failing to accomplish any task, > attend any function, offer any assistance with any planning or coordination > of events, and essentially holding the position in name only. > > The person making this accusation needs to look in a mirror. The > Vice-Chairman called repeatedly to speak with Reed Ebarb on the campaign. > Reed Ebarb refused to take his calls, refused to answer any email > communications and indeed Reed Ebarb prohibited the Vice-Chairman and a > member of the Press James Terry, a Capital reporter for the Associated > Press, from attending and covering the Presidential campaign event in > Louisiana and thus denying our Presidential candidate good press coverage by > a major news outlet. Reed Ebarb should face charges on this but I convinced > the vice-Chairman to not push it for the good of the party. > > Specification 10. Making false and baseless accusations of racism > against a fellow state Central Committee member. > > From what I can see of Reed Ebarb's actions the shoe fits and he should wear > it. I am glad he resigned and I believe Reed Ebarb to be actively working to > destroy the party with this whole proceeding. > > Specification 11. Making an announcement for elective office in a > public forum without advising the State Central Committee in advance, > thereby raising questions among the general membership and the voting public > with respect to the Libertarian Party's implied endorsement of his > candidacy, and drawing their leadership into question accordingly. > > There is no party by law nor state ethics board violation here. Reed Ebarb > is on a personal vendetta. Reed Ebarb by his actions proven to be a > prejudice bigot. > > Specification 12. Failing to form an exploratory committee in > advance of this public announcement, making the announcement without any > established campaign committee, platform, or ready biography for prospective > voters and media. > > There is no party by law nor state ethics board violation here. But for the > record that little introduction I made at the beginning of this, well it has > been available on line for YEARS over on MySpace and other location so don't > even try to tell me any one made any good effort to find it. > > As for the platform and other issues, the Vice-Chairman came to the party > members in various on line forums and asked the members what was important > to them. The Vice-Chairman came to the members asking for assistance in > fleshing out the specifics, he already has the general state platform and > was asking for people to contribute specific issues. All he got for his > trouble was a ration of shit. That is no way to treat a candidate. > > Reed Ebarb is on a personal vendetta. He has by his actions in this matter > proven to be an unforgiving and unrepentant prejudice bigot. > > Specification 13. Failing to provide any such platform or > biographical statement upon the request of prospective voters, Officers and > other party members. > > This charge is just a rehash of the previous charge in another form solely > in an attempt to smear the Vice Chairman. > > Specification 14. Filing for elective office in 2011 and failing to > duly answer media inquiries, creating a poor impression on voters and media > of the Libertarian Party, its candidates, and its leadership. > > This is another load of crap. The Vice-Chairman did answer all but ONE > reporter. That reporter only gave one day for a replay saying, he would get > the information from the League of Women Voters site if the Vice-Chairman > did not answer this one reporter in the short dead line given. NOW, how can > the Vice-Chairman have had information up at the League of Women Voters and > this charge even be remotely valid? > > This once again is a person vendetta by bigots. > > ======================================================= > > Charge 3. Unethical Conduct > > Specification 1. Attempting to get reimbursed for the notarizing of > an Affidavit of Acceptance form in 2008, such cost, incidental to being a > candidate for elective office, being only legally payable by the candidate > or a candidate's committee, and which cannot be paid by the Party. > > There is nothing unethical about asking to be re-paid for money paid out of > his pocket for the party. Reed Ebarb was the representative for the > Candidate in the state and present when the request was made. Never did Reed > Ebarb clarify from whom the repayment was to come, thus causing the > Vice-Chairman to be unable to be reimbursed. Where I come from this is > called malicious and a setup. The man and his may as well be wearing white > sheet and hood. > > Specification 2. Attending a 2009 Libertarian State Leadership > Alliance conference, in the Chairman's proxy, at Party expense, for the > purpose of learning more about the new CiviCRM online database system, but > instead, using the opportunity to pitch a dubious fundraising scheme to > other state chairs in concert with a personal business partner who made the > trip, also at Party expense. > > I must ask of the anonymous accuser, were you there or is this hear say and > gossip as regards the activities of the Vice-Chairman at the conference? I > will grant that a business associate did go along and said business > associate paid for half the fuel, used his car and paid for half of the > room. The party preapproved the expense and did give the Vice-Chairman the > credit card to pay for the travel. The trip actually cost the party less. > > Specification 3. Soliciting the LPL to enter into an expensive and > poorly worded contract to raise funds for the Party through a 3rd party via > the selling of medical information devices, this being the same scheme > pitched at the aforementioned conference, and one in which he has personal > connections to the 3rd party which would profit from the contract. > > There is nothing unethical, immoral or illegal in pitching a plan or project > in an attempt to raise money for the party. There was no threat, no > extortion, this was just a business offer. > > Specification 4. Attempting to get reimbursed for travel expenses as > a condition of fulfilling duties of his office. (traveling to a and from > State Central Committee meetings) > > There is nothing unethical about asking to be re-paid for money paid. He was > not extorting money, only asking if the costs could be re-paid. > > Specification 5. Seeking reimbursement for travel and lodging to > attend the NAACP 2012 convention as a "liaison" to that organization and > representative of the Party. > > There is nothing unethical about asking to be re-paid for money paid. He was > not extorting money, only asking if the costs could be re-paid. > > Specification 6. Soliciting the Party and a Congressional candidate > to use his personal business services at expense to the Party and the Candidate. > > What? Do not sign painters and people making yard signs charge for their > work? The Vice-Chairman was offering his professional services at a discount > to his normal prices. There is nothing unethical in pitching a plan or > project in an attempt to do business with the party. There was no demand or > threat, only and offer. > > Specification 7. Using a Strategic Planning Committee meeting to > solicit the party again to use these same services. > > Again I ask, Do not sign painters and people making yard signs charge for > their work? The Vice-Chairman was offering his professional services at a > discount to his normal prices. There is nothing unethical in pitching a plan > or project in an attempt to do business with the party. There was no demand > or threat, only an offer. > > Specification 8. Using a Strategic Planning Committee meeting to > solicit volunteers and support from party activists and officers for his > campaign for elective office, rather than using the meeting to plan strategy > for the Party. > > How does anyone ethically and reasonably make such ludicrous charges? This > is just a rehash of Specification 12 above in the conduct unbecoming section > and I will answer it the same. > > As for the platform and other issues, the Vice-Chairman came to the party > members in various on line forums and asked the members what was important > to them. The Vice-Chairman came to the members asking for assistance in > fleshing out the specifics, he already has the general state platform and > was asking for people to contribute specific issues. All he got for his > trouble was a ration of shit. That is no way to treat a candidate. > > Specification 8. Using a Strategic Planning Committee meeting to > solicit volunteers and support from party activists and officers for his > campaign for elective office, rather than using the meeting to plan strategy > for the Party. > > This is the same charge reworded and as such just a rehash of Specification > 12 in the above section on conduct unbecoming. The answer is the same. > > As for the platform and other issues, the Vice-Chairman came to the party > members in various on line forums and asked the members what was important > to them. The Vice-Chairman came to the members asking for assistance in > fleshing out the specifics, he already has the general state platform and > was asking for people to contribute specific issues. All he got for his > trouble was a ration of shit. That is no way to treat a candidate. > > Specification 9. Attempting to involve the Party in an electronic > communications scheme which would expose its contact list to his personal > business interests. > > This is so vague as to be completely unanswerable. It is just another smear > by someone attempting a personal vendetta and character assassination. > > Specification 10. Has on numerous occasions, solicited interest in > holding media events, concerts, festivals et cetera, which would not in any > way be publicly linked to the Party, but which would be partly or entirely > funded by the Party, in exchange for a share of the proceeds of such events, > if any. In all of these events, personal friends and himself, were to also > profit. > > This is an interesting half truth. Yes money making events have been > proposed. The party is constantly and incessantly saying it needs money, has > no money can't do this or that because there is no money. The Vice-Chairman > has made good faith efforts to offer his services to the party for fund > raising. These are legitimate business offers and the party is and has > always been free to accept or decline. > > Specification 11. Attempting to divert discussion at a State Central > Committee meeting concerning online donation logistics towards using his > personal contacts or himself as "bundlers" for Party funds. > > I submit that there is not enough information in this charge to make a > response. Once again it appears to be the blather of a prejudice bigot > intent on smearing the Vice-Chairman. > > In any case, there is nothing unethical in pitching a plan or project in an > attempt to raise money. > > I submit that if the Vice-Chairman is to be removed from office for asking > if expenses incurred for the party at the direction and request of the party > could be repaid and for proposing money making projects then several others > must also be removed and NONE will ever be brave enough to ever again > suggest ways to raise money. > > ==================================== > > In summary, what you see before you gentlemen is an attempt by a party or > parties mostly unknown, cowardly hiding in the shadows making > unsubstantiated charges. Yes the party has a problem. The problem is with > this self-righteous, mean-spirited and bigoted crew and Reed Ebarb is the > current leader. > > As a friend of mine put it, "The have got together the mob. They have found > the rope. And they are going to hang someone." Do not let yourselves be the > tree these bastards use to hang a good man. > > Sincerely, > > T. Lee Horne, III > > for the defendant. > > *From:*scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] *On > Behalf Of *Adrien Monteleone > *Sent:* Friday, March 29, 2013 3:27 PM > *To:* Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors > *Subject:* Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Internal party foolishness. > > To all Board members, > > The following is my response to a communication from T. Lee Horne, who has > been communicating directly with Mr. Lewis through this present judicial action. > > I am now including the rest of you in this discussion because this has grown > beyond any attempt to handle this matter quietly and without full attention > of the Board. Please scroll down and read from the bottom up for the proper > order of the thread. You will see why I felt it necessary, since everyone > is now personally involved, that I chose to include the entire Board. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > What case does he intend to bring in a court? > > There is nothing illegal about an organization attempting to remove a member > or disciplining a member. > > Is the involvement of the NAACP mean he is alleging he can't be subject to > disciplinary procedures because of his skin color? > > Is he alleging he can never be removed from office through the rules and the > procedures in Robert's because of his skin color? > > No cause for relief from a court exists as of today. > > No action has been taken by the Board against him. > > Allegations are being investigated. There has not yet been a trial nor any > decision been made. He has not been harmed in any way, and certainly not > publicly. This information is strictly within the confines of the Board > members. > > Is he alleging just the mere investigation is an injury to him? > > Is a private organization powerless to investigate allegations against one > of its members? > > Is he alleging this powerlessness is simply due to his skin color? > > Recall, one of the allegations is an unsubstantiated claim of racism against > a fellow Board member. By threatening legal action on such grounds, and for > things which are according to our By-laws and accordingly under Robert's > Rules of Order as our Parliamentary authority, within the Board's > prerogative to engage in, he is in fact, making a blatant unsubstantiated > claim of racism. He is outright claiming that rightful action and behavior > by the Party is inherently racist, simply because of his skin color, thus > falsely claiming that he is not and can never be subject to any such > procedures or subject to enforcement of any rules or By-laws because of his > skin color. > > He just added another specification to his charges. > > And you just provided the evidence with his quote. > > And this time, it isn't against just one or two members, he is now claiming > the entire Board is racist just for the mere "crime" that some of them sit > on the Board. Recall, other Board members have not signed on to these > charges. No one, not even the Secretary has weighed in or commented on > them. And no such comments would even be appropriate at this time. (as I > think everyone recognizes) > > I made it clear that a committee was appointed to investigate the veracity > of the charges. Thus it is apparent, their status as fact is not yet > decided and no opinion should be offered on such until the committee issues > its report. > > Thus he is accusing everyone, who simply received notice as he has, of being > racist for their mere presence on the Board, and is threatening them with > legal action on such grounds. > > His legal counsel would do well to reconsider, as would he, so as not to be > sanctioned by any court of law for bringing a frivolous suit. There's not > much harsher a rebuke a court can issue an attorney beyond declaring their > suit "frivolous." Alleging a crime and demanding relief from a court, on > the grounds that members of the Board are merely members of the Board is a > good candidate for such a rebuke and dismissal of such a case "with > prejudice." (which is a legal term meaning "don't ever bring this before > this court again, as it will be dismissed outright without being considered. > And this is not appeal-able and will not be reconsidered.") > > Not only will this cause the Investigative Committee to add this to its > specification list, I doubt highly that it will engender him any votes in > support of his non-guilt or encourage anyone to give deference and vote to > retain him in his office. > > If his fate wasn't already sealed by a potentially long list of improper > actions if they are verified, this one action on his part, which now the > entire Board is aware of, may be sufficient to secure his removal, and > likely now expulsion and life-time banishment from the party. > > Lawsuits are an act of government force. As Libertarians, we do not believe > in initiating force to solve our disputes. In fact, we find it > reprehensible. We do of course allow for self-defense, or the proper seeking > of redress for previous injury or use of force by someone else upon us. > > Since no force has been used against Mr. Lewis, no any injury committed upon > him, and since an organization has every right and power to protect itself > from members it deems are harmful or destructive to its purpose, and since > the Board has not even heard all of the evidence or taken any official > decision on the allegations, Mr. Lewis' threat of the use of force might > well constitute an initial use, and would therefore be about as > un-Libertarian as one can muster without actually using direct physical > violence against someone. > > This may well provide the justification for penalties of expulsion and > life-time banishment. > > Mr. Lewis is making it clear by such threats that he has zero interest in > the Party and no concern for its purposes, or even respect for its most > basic tenet. > > As chairman, I will not allow this process to be turned into a round robin > circus of threats. > > The Board has to follow the procedures in Robert's Rules and our By-Laws, > and so does the accused. He will be given ample opportunity to defend > himself against any charges brought against him, if the investigators bring > any, the Board will then deliberate according to Robert's on the question of > guilt and the appropriate disciplinary measures if he is found guilty. > > I will also not allow this Board to be intimidated, in any way shape or > form, especially via threats of lawsuits for conducting themselves according > to our established and accepted By-Laws, Rules, and Parliamentary Authority > and certainly not for merely being members of the Board. > > Mr. Lewis VOLUNTEERED for this position and has served on this Board since > April 2008, and in his current capacity since September 2008. The rules and > procedures have never been secret from him. He has even voted, on the > record at conventions, to adopt the present By-laws which we all now serve > under. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > I hereby declare that it is the opinion of the Chair that such threats and > behavior on Mr. Lewis' part are entirely OUT OF ORDER and remonstrate him to > not only refrain from making any such further threats or making such similar > speech or comments, or taking any action upon such words and threats, but > call upon his IMMEDIATE, UNCONDITIONAL, and UNEQUIVOCAL apology to ALL Board > members. > > Since this infraction occurred outside of a meeting, but one that now the > entire Board is aware of, according to the procedures as outlined in ?61 of > Robert's Rules of Order, I, as Chairman of the Board, hereby instruct the > Investigative Committee to add to their list of Specifications under Charge > 3 - Unethical Conduct or whichever charge, or an additional charge if they > see fit, the aforementioned threats of use of government force against the > Board in general and a single member in particular, AND a Specification, > under whatever charge, or an additional charge, as they see fit, for the > unsubstantiated claims or insinuation of racism upon the entire Board or any > of them, simply for being on the Board, and for actions not yet taken, said > actions being within the prerogative of the Board under its right to > discipline its members and protect itself from members whom it deems > dangerous or destructive to itself and/or its purposes. > > > In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > On 3/28/13 2:24 PM, T Lee Horne III wrote: > > Adrien, > > I spoke with Scott Lewis at length just now. He is quite angry now. He > has been talking with his friends who are, as friends will be, very much > in his corner and they are not helping me calm him down. One of his > friends is a lawyer and is suggesting pro bono legal action against Reed > personally and the party in general. I'll need at least another over > night to work on calming this down. > > It may not calm down, in which case there will be blood in fields so to > speak. Reed will have won a very pyrrhic victory. It will cost him all > he has and all he may ever get just in legal fees. This could easily > turn into an NAACP vs. Libertarian Party of Louisiana State Central > Committee battle. There are a lot more of members at the NAACP than > there are at the LPLA. Can the treasury take this risk? > > As Scott said, "They formed the mob, they brought the rope and they are > looking for a tree and I'm going to defend myself." > > *T Lee Horne, III* > > Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA > > President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 > > Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 > > Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 > > tleehorneiii at gmail.com > > 318-542-4445 google voice > > tleehorneiii skype > > *http://bit.ly/12zAQMS* > > *From:*Adrien Monteleone [mailto:chairman at lplouisiana.org] > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 27, 2013 1:57 PM > *To:* Paladin at LPLouisiana.org > *Subject:* Re: Internal party foolishness. > > ... > > The Investigative Committee already has plans to talk to Scott once they > were informed he had received the official notice. > > (has he received it yet?) > > But certainly, they can do so now regardless. > > Charges do not have to be officially brought. They haven't even finished > investigating yet. > > This suggestion is perfectly within the framework of Robert's. > > I'll inform the Investigative Committee at once so they can contact Scott > and get this over with. > > If he resigns - and certainly if he does so to focus on the campaign, the > committee can simply drop the matter and return "no bill" as you suggest > since the issue would be a moot point. > > I wouldn't have him address the charges directly in any letter of > resignation though. They aren't public outside of the Board and never will > be. But his resignation will be official record if someone wants to read > it. Best to leave it speaking only of his campaign reasons. If he feels > compelled to say something in some fashion otherwise, perhaps the usual > artful phrases "differences of vision/opinion" or "irreconcilable > differences" would be best. > > If however, he waits too long and we have to proceed with a trial before he > offers to resign, the Board under Robert's can refuse the resignation as > affecting the trial and proceed anyway. Our By-laws state his resignation > is always effective without the need for acceptance, and this would still be > true, but the Board could proceed with the trial, still vote on guilt or > innocence, and still vote to impose other penalties or sanctions. The > sooner the resignation is offered the better. > > ... > > In Liberty,? ? ? Adrien Monteleone - Chairman? Libertarian Party of Louisiana? > > On 3/27/13 5:47 AM, T Lee Horne III wrote: > > Adrien, > > I sent the following to Scott Lewis this morning. > > Scott, > > ... > > I'm thinking it may be time to end the BS and go your own way. It's just > a matter of negotiation. To me the issue is clearing the charges with a > rebuttal and a resignation all at the same time in the same letter. That > will give you a clean exit and if the investigating tribunal will > return "No Bill" as in no charges you resign with a clean and clear > name. What say you? > > =========================== > > Adrien, do you think this can be done on the side of the party? I know > Scott wants to be able to say he resigned because he found his campaign > needed more attention and he did not feel he could effectively be > vice-chairman and run a full time campaign. I know we are bending things > a little and that is the art and science of political negotiation. > > *T Lee Horne, III* > > Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA > > President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 > > Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 > > Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 > > tleehorneiii at gmail.com > > 318-542-4445 Google voice > > tleehorneiii Skype > > *http://bit.ly/12zAQMS* > > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: chairman.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 283 bytes Desc: not available URL: From media at lplouisiana.org Mon Apr 1 15:07:28 2013 From: media at lplouisiana.org (Keith Thompson) Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 15:07:28 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Internal party foolishness. In-Reply-To: References: "\" <000001ce2ad8$6d90ed00$48b2c700$@org>" <515332D3.90406@lplouisiana.org>" <004301ce2be9$e2caa9f0$a85ffdd0$@org> <5155EB15.5040202@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <5ec42bbce81b97456ae65a0fa5a6ebea@lplouisiana.org> Good afternoon all, I wish to respond to two points not dealing with Mr. Lewis, but dealing with claims against our technology: Mr. Horne's email makes the following charges against the Chairman: 1) "[the Chairman] 'Bugs' ... emails that he sends out to all of us." 2) "the Chairman has direct access to all of our email accounts and may at any time delete or change anything in any of our accounts". I don't feel informed enough to comment on some of the other charges yet, but as a webmaster and hosting provider myself, I'd like to address these. (And it wouldn't necessarily mean much if the charges were true and the Chairman addressed them himself.) It is extremely likely that Mr. Monteleone can access LPL email accounts (if there were sufficient need) since he manages the service for us. If necessary, he could simply change a member's password and login. You would be aware if this happened, though (unless you still use the default password provided with your account). Some information may be available via server logs, but this is almost universally true of email and does not constitute "bugging." I do not think that LPL email comes with a reasonable expectation of privacy as our addresses are not intended for personal use. They belong to the office to which you are serving and any email contents you have are to be inherited by future volunteers filling your role. While it is possible for someone with access to DELETE your email account, it is not possible for the LPL to discreetly edit emails in your account to change what they say. Our email is not hosted in-house, but is handled through a hosting company - we do not have direct access to all of the data even if there were such a plot. That being said, it is good practice to back up important material anyway; there's no harm in having your own archive. But it is not necessary to guard against secret edits to the contents of your inbox or targeted editing done without your knowledge. Thanks, -- KEITH THOMPSON _Communications Officer_ Libertarian Party of Louisiana media at lplouisiana.org LPLouisiana.org [3] On 2013-04-01 09:06, T Lee Horne III wrote: > Preamble > > Today, those that wish to establish global control use religion, ethnicity, sexuality, politics, income gaps and more to keep people seeing each other as the enemy when the real enemy is Big Government. > > If you truly wish to combat the ones trying to establish and entrench themselves as the ruling elite of the globe, all it takes is loving kindness towards your fellow human beings. Even if you do not agree with all of their opinions. Support their earthly right to have it and turn your aim towards the true enemy of the people, Big Government in all its forms. > > Only together can we defeat the true enemy of individual liberty, freedom and civil rights. > > Discussion > > I observe that the Chairman has seen fit to bring the entire group into this and pass on confidential communications between the two of us, part of which he has used in his publication of additional charge against the Vice Chairman and which is included in this chain of communication. I have now to bring you all up to speed on these charges and actions, in a time line going back to last year. > > Attached in line at the end of my reply, you will find two, one from October of last year and one from this current hearing. The email that Adrien chose to share with you all follows those in line attachments. The one from last year was circulated surreptitiously by the Chairman. I found out about it because one member who despises secret attacks and actions forwarded me a copy. I wrote a reply and out of courtesy sent it by email confidentially to the Chairman. Now seems the time to present this as evidence of the witch hunt that is being apparently supported by the current Chairman through his straw man the Secretary/Treasurer. These attached in line documents are copied and presented with as delivered with typos included. Likewise all directly quoted text is presented as written. > > Here is where I caution you, do not believe a phone call or personal talk with the chairman will be honored. Insist all discussions be in writing or with a witness taking notes in some way. > > The chairman spoke with me over the phone and in some email as well, which may be brought forward later. The Chairman assured me that the bogus list of outright lies, and petty charges amounting to character assassination were the work of one or two men. The Chairman never did name the men and the possible reason will become apparent to all of you as you read both the October 2012, the current bill of charges and the included by the Chairman formerly confidential communications I was involved with in my now futile attempt to make peace. The Chairman has taken my attempts to keep this calm and find a way out. He as poured gasoline of the fire. I will not sit by quietly and allow his agenda to go forward. > > The chairman assured me the October charges were dropped because he determined there was not enough support to bring the charges much less convict on those charges, yet here the charges are brought once again. It's as though I am dealing with a person who will bring up every long past and resolved transgression at any time to beat on those old long ago resolved transgressions. This is exactly the same. > > Good people of the State Central Committee, prejudice is insidious, it is evidenced by a pattern of behavior more than by any one single act. Often times the one or ones acting in a racially prejudice way are so ingrained into the behavior in their own culture they may not even realize that the behavior and attitude is unacceptable in the rest of society. Maybe we should consider whether we have this problem in the party or in the committees. And we must look at whether that is in any way affecting any of our actions. Once again, I leave the final determination to you. Look closely at the pattern of behavior in evidence by the petty nature of the charges, by the vague unspecific nature of many of the charges, by the double standard of behavior of those charges. Who in here has not asked question of a group as to the possibility of being reimbursed for expenses? Who in here has not thought of and brought up potential ways for a group to raise funds for the group. Look at the vagueness of the charges made with regard to the fundraising proposals and wonder to yourselves what is really going on. Remember, racists and bigots have gotten quite good at not directly using the "N" word and claiming fairness, equality of treatment and magnanimous actions, all the while subtly acting to undermine the black people who dare to aspire to leadership or any improvement in any area of life. We all must examine ourselves closely and continually to determine whether we are doing these things ourselves. > > In communications prior to the last communication the Chairman said that the Vice-Chairman had 21 days from the date postmarked on a Registered letter to respond to the charges. I will quote directly from his email to me dated March 23, 2013 . Furthermore, I have strong issue with the manner in which the charges were delivered. > > "I advised according to Robert's Rules and our By-Laws that 21 day notice of any charges and the specific counts for each has to be made to each member to call a judicial session. (which accordingly I was asked to put on the agenda) That notice should have been sent registered mail to the accused, and mailed to the remaining members. I don't know if they are in the hands of the postal service already or not." > > When that letter never came, perhaps because it was never sent, a letter postmarked 3-28 came, I wrote to the Chairman that the time line was violated and the hearing could not be held April 13. Now the Chairman says the email is sufficient and he can prove that the Vice-Chairman received the email. Think about this, the rule is now changed on the delivery of notice AND the Chairman can prove the Vice-Chairman received the email. So the Chairman implies he has 'Bugs' in his emails that he sends out to all of us. "Bugs" that none of us were aware of and none of us agreed to. Now we know why he insists all of us must use only the official email system. Additionally the Chairman requires one set of rules for the accused and another set of rules for the Chairman and the party. This is appears as high handed and unpleasant as much of the actions by the National Republican Committee during the Ron Paul campaign. > > I have all of these written communications downloaded to my personal computer because the Chairman has direct access to all of our email accounts and may at any time delete or change anything in any of our accounts as well as bar any of us from access to their email account and who knows what other unknown and unsuspected powers he holds over our communications. I suggest you, too, may want to protect yourselves by keeping your own copy of communications that pass through the official party email system. > > I know this is getting long but just by way of example as to what could possibly happen just from postings on Facebook, if we allow this to proceed. I have written the following, remember this could be anyone of us. These are just examples, this could never come up as this person has already resigned. This is just an example of how any malicious person could proceed. So let's decide now not to conduct the party in this way. > > ========================== > > Charge one: Breach of confidentiality, conduct unbecoming, violations of ethics. The evidence of this charge is below where Reed Ebarb and his co conspirators, Mitch Dufour and Daniel Hayes, discuss in open forum his intentional and malicious act of bringing the petty an malicious charges with the intent of "Time for heads to roll." As you can see from the time line this was IMMEDIATELY after his resignation. > > Reed Ebarb boasted of his intent to cause trouble in public on FB. Starting a conversation on the subject. > > March 19 via mobile > > Time for heads to roll. -- with Daniel Hayes. > > Like * * Share > > Mitch Dufour ???.......... > > March 19 at 11:05pm * Like > > Reed Ebarb You'll have to call for the details on this one > > March 19 at 11:05pm via mobile * March 19 > > =========================== > > Charge two: Breach of Ethics and Conduct Unbecoming an officer of the State Central Committee by attempting to solicit business for his new start up business under the guise of a self centered self promoting Resignation Letter. Such letter was also published in the open on Facebook. See below: > > Reed Ebarb > > March 19 > > Dear Fellow Libertarian, > > After serving with the Libertarian Party of Louisiana since April of 2012, I have decided it is time for me to resign. I have made the decision to start my own animal rescue in Shreveport and due to this, I can't serve on the board of directors of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana any longer. > > When I was elected to the LPL board, we had only a few members, no income, and no candidates. I spent most of 2012 recruiting congressional candidates, recruiting members, and raising money. When it was all said and done, we had 2 elected Libertarians and 5 congressional candidates. We raised more money in 4 months than the party had raised in the last few years combined. It was a tough year but by the end of 2012, many were talking about the resurgence of Libertarians in Louisiana. > > Today, the LPL operates on a budget of more than $20,000, has a full board of directors, has grown over 50%, and is already getting inquiries from candidates wanting to run for office in 2014. We have come a very long way in only a year and I am extremely proud to leave the party much stronger and much larger than I found it. I am proud of each and every one of you for everything we have done together. The party is larger than ever and still growing. > > Although I must leave the board of directors, I hope to still hope to volunteer where possible. I hope to slowly pass along all of my work and lessons learned to one or more successors. I truly wish everyone the best and I can always be reached on my cell phone. I will be resigning after the April meeting to allow for a succession plan to be formed. > > In Liberty, > > Reed Ebarb > > Secretary, Interim Treasurer > > =============================== > > Charge three: Conduct unbecoming a SCC board member, poking fun at another person's religion as evidenced by his very public comment on Facebook in his timeline. Again as evidenced below: > > Reed Ebarb > > February 11 > > I am formally declaring my candidacy to be the next Pope. I look forward to ruling over my Catholic subjects. > > ============================== > > Charge four: Conduct unbecoming a SCC board member, threatening and advocating the use of violence against another human to solve a personal issue. As evidenced below on his Facebook time line, see the following: > > Reed Ebarb > > January 21 > > Some guy pulled up at the shelter today with 4 dogs in the car and he was holding a baseball to apparently "keep them in line". If I hadn't been at work I would have taken that baseball bat and beat that little mother fucker to within an inch of his life. See how he likes being kept in line. > > =============================== > > Charge five: Dereliction of duty, failure to mail the registered letter to the Vice-Chairman in a timely manner. Thus, if the rules earlier sent by the Chairman are to be followed, causing a Second SCC special board meeting to be called to discuss the proposed charges. And thus costing the members of the SCC great expense in time and money go attend said special meeting. As evidenced below from his letter to the Chairman and the SCC: > > "This is a very quick heads up to everyone that my report will be a bit delayedd, as will my responses to several emails. I have recently become involved in legal preceedings in Shreveport and I also went through a tornado yesterday at the animal shelter where I work so therefore, I imagine I will be working the next week straight. If it is urgemt. please call me. Otherwise, I will respond and finish a report ASAP." > > ================================ > > I remind you, I bring this to you to show you what could happen in the future if we allow this witch hunt to proceed. Please not also, these charges have actual substantial evidence attached, unlike the charges brought against the Vice Chairman.. > > I submit that if this is to proceed, since the Vice-Chairman as defendant is being prohibited from voting on these issues, the accusers, ALL of them, the Secretary/Treasurer, and the Chairman must also be prohibited from voting on these charges. Of course determining who "ALL of them" is will require a distinct and independent investigation as some choose to hide under cover of a front man. I also as representative of the Defense, must not vote on the charges. The only people fit for the "jury" are those who have been neutral up until this point and may be expected to weight this dispassionately and fairly. Much as in a court law the judge, prosecution and the defense attorney are not allowed to weigh guilt or innocence. > > ================================ > > T LEE HORNE, III > > Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA > > President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 > > Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 > > Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 > > tleehorneiii at gmail.com > > 318-542-4445 google voice > > tleehorneiii skype > > HTTP://BIT.LY/12ZAQMS [1] > > I will now copy and paste the formerly private communication I sent. Vice-Chairman Scott A. Lewis, III asked me to respond to the initial letter as his defense. I would rather not have had to bring this forward, it is quite unpleasant but I must. > > ATACHMENT ONE follows. > > =============================================== > > Fellow members of the State Central Committee, I have been made aware of an email being circulated by our most esteemed and honorable Chairman. > > Mr. Chairman, > > I am disappointed in you. You decided to circulate this email accusation with malice and forethought. You chose to exclude me from the discussion and attempted to set up a kangaroo court with only your baseless innuendos and accusations. I trust the rest of the state central committee will listen with an open mind to the refutation of your specious accusations. Your actions are reprehensible and unbefitting of the office. If anyone is liable for removal from office for cause, it may be you. > > Fellow State Central Committee Members, > > It is with heavy heart and great sadness that I am forced to respond to this. None of this should ever have been committed to writing, none of this should ever have come before the committee. Our Chairman has allowed himself to succumb to a fit of moral outrage. I know not from whence his groundless anger arises. I do know that his entire diatribe is fallacious. Below is his email as circulated and my refutation, line by line. > > =============================================================== > > This is interesting and I will address some of the points that I have direct knowledge of. > > A - DERELICTION OF DUTY > > #1 - was not present for the convention at which he was elected, and at which he was to serve as an officer, being already duly elected by the previous convention. > > I, in my office as Chairman at the time, discussed with Vice Chairman Scott Lewis the coming convention and determined his time would be better spent in Baton Rouge and New Orleans than at the convention. The Vice Chairman was specifically told by me, the Chairman at the time, that he did not need to attend because his time could be put to better use in Baton Rouge and New Orleans at a large NAACP event. The current Chairman could have easily determined this by a simple phone call to me yet he chose this disruptive method to bring this up as a Central Committee item. > > #2 - was not present for the first SCC meeting as required of his office by the LPL By-laws, preventing a quorum, causing members and officers to travel at great expense to themselves without purpose. > > Both Vice Chairman Scott Lewis and I were under the distinct impression from our understanding of party rules, rules we voted on that we could attend SCC meetings electronically and we were both available to attend electronically. I communicated with Reed and asked to be called so that I could attend if needed for a quorum. I asked that Scott also be called so as to attend electronically if need for quorum. After the meeting I called and spoke with Secretary Reed Ebarb. He said the Chairman had an explanation of why Vice Chairman Scott Lewis and I had not been called so that a quorum would be present but the Secretary was not able to explain the reasons. > > #3 - has failed to make any attempt to constitute the Strategic Planning Committee as required of his office under the LPL By-laws, making only two calls for "information" or "agenda items" but has not held a meeting, set a date for a meeting, or had any other discussion on any matter of the committee. > > I cannot make first hand comments on this other than note that Vice Chairman Scott Lewis and I had many long conversations as he tried to get this Committee up and running wherein the Vice Chairman expressed his frustration at not getting requested information from the Secretary and the Chairman. Vice Chairman Scott Lewis asked for the email addresses for these subcommittee chairmen and was denied these email addresses. Vice Chairman Scott Lewis was also frustrated by being told several times by the Secretary that this was not the time to contact the members of the Strategic Planning committee. I will leave it to Scott Lewis to address this issue in more detail. > > #4 - has failed to make any attempt to establish PECs for unorganized parishes as required of his office under the LPL By-laws. > > I cannot make first hand comments on this. All I have is this, I know Vice Chairman Scott Lewis was active in several attempts to form the Baton Rouge PEC because I was present at two of those formation meeting. I will leave it to Scott Lewis to address this issue more completely and directly. > > #5 - has not performed any duties of unorganized parishes as required of his office under the LPL By-laws. > > I cannot make first hand comments on this. All I have is what Scott Lewis told me he was doing. I will leave it to Scott Lewis to address this issue directly. > > B - CONDUCT UNBECOMING > > #1 - was late turning in his Affidavit of Acceptance Elector form. > > Whereas the first form was void in its form because the names were not correct and thus useless, this is a specious charge. > > #2 - failed to turn in his Affidavit of Acceptance Elector form, corrected version. > > Note that the first form was turned in if later than optimal still in a full timely fashion to get the party on the ballot. > > Phones work two ways. > > #3 - failed to communicate why form was not turned in on time the first time. > > Whereas the first form was void in its form because the names were not correct and thus useless, this is a specious charge. > > #4 - failed to communicate why form was not turned in the second time. > > Phones work two ways. It seems the most reasonable and straight forward way of dealing with this would be a phone call or series of call to inquire and discuss resolution to the problem. There seems to be a pattern of failure to communicate with the Vice Chairman by the Chairman and the Secretary. More on this at point #8. > > #5 - failed to display any concern for his tardiness in turning in forms. > > Would you have him tear the pocket off of his shirt and wail loudly Mea Culpa? > > Besides, I was told by more than one person the current Chairman and the current Vice Chairman had a long and private conversation after the recent SCC meeting on this subject. As to first hand information as to the discussion, I have no direct knowledge. I was under the impression all these issues had been resolved. > > #6 - failed to display any interest in securing the form before the deadline. > > Once again, I was under the impression that the current Chairman and the current Vice Chairman had a long and private conversation on this subject, in which I was under the impression all these issues had been resolved. > > #7 - lack of concern for known deadlines affecting ballot access. > > Once again, I was under the impression that the current Chairman and the current Vice Chairman had a long and private conversation on this subject, in which I was under the impression all these issues had been resolved. > > #8 - causing the Chair to go to great personal effort and expense to remedy his failure to file paperwork in a timely manner. > > Expense the Chair could have easily avoided by the simple expedient of using the telephone, calling Vice Chairman Scott Lewis, and meeting the Vice Chairman in Baton Rouge on the way to the Office of the Secretary of State. For some reason unknown and unfathomable to me the Chair decided to instead have another person sign the form thus requiring the Chair to drive to Shreveport to meet with the Secretary. It is not the Vice Chairman's job to tell the Chairman how to run the party, when the Chairman says words to the effect that he will have someone else do the task. That is an Executive decision. THE ENTIRETY OF THIS PROBLEM, THE COSTS, TIME, AND INCONVENIENCE, IS ON THE HEAD AND SHOULDERS OF THE CHAIRMAN. > > #9 - volunteering to be co-director of a Presidential Campaign for Louisiana, and then failing to accomplish any task, attend any function, offer any assistance, help with any planning or coordination of events, and essentially holding the position in name only. > > I cannot make first hand comments on this. All I have is what Vice Chairman Scott Lewis told me he was doing. I will leave it to Scott Lewis to address this issue directly. What I do know is that Vice Chairman Scott Lewis has distributed a large quantity of door hangers, yard signs and bumper stickers in an around Baton Rouge. I do know that he has attended numerous events in and around Baton Rouge speaking on behalf of the Presidential Candidate and the Libertarian Congressional Candidate. He also gave signs to the Congressional Candidates from both Alexandria and New Orleans. > > #10 - making false and baseless accusations of racism of a fellow State Central Committee member. > > I cannot make first hand comments on this. What I can say is I have had a long and positive working relationship with Vice Chairman Scott Lewis. Yes there are some cultural differences that we have had to work through but both of us were and are doing it. Phone calls and direct personal visits help a great deal. As for the statement that Vice Chairman accused a fellow State Central Committee member of being racist, I was not there and having said that, I find it much out of character for Vice Chairman Scott Lewis. > > C - UNETHICAL CONDUCT > > #1 - attempted to get re-imbursed by the SCC for notarizing an Elector form (2008) > > There is nothing unethical about asking to be re-imbursed for money paid out of his pocket for the party. > > #2 - attended a 2009 LSLA conference, at party expense, with the purpose of learning more about new online database systems, but instead used the opportunity to pitch a dubious fundraising scheme to other state chairs. > > Mr. Chairman, were you there or is this hear say and gossip? I cannot make first hand comments on this. All I have is what Scott Lewis told me he was doing. I will leave it to Scott Lewis to address this issue directly. > > #3 - attempted to entice the LPL to enter into an expensive and poorly worded contract to raise funds through a 3rd party via the selling of medical information devices. (same scheme pitched at the LSLA) > > There is nothing unethical in pitching a plan or project in an attempt to raise money for the party. Vice Chairman Scott Lewis comes to us with years of experience in promoting events for various organizations including the state Democratic Party, the state Republican Party, the NAACP and other charitable and for profit organizations. When he hears the LPLA needs money he suggests things he has done in the past. It is up the Party to decide if any of the ideas are suitable for the party. > > #4 - attempted to get re-imbursed for travel expenses incurred while fulfilling duties of his office. (travel to and from SCC meetings) > > There is nothing unethical about asking to be re-imbursed for money paid. He was not extorting money, only asking if the costs could be re-imbursed. > > #5 - sought reimbursement for travel and lodging expenses to attend the NAACP convention as a "liaison" to that organization and representative of the LPL. > > There is nothing unethical about asking to be re-imbursed for money paid. He was not extorting money, only asking if the costs could be re-imbursed. > > #6 - attempted to get the party and an LP Congressional candidate to use his personal business services at expense to the Party and to the Candidate. > > There is nothing unethical in pitching a plan or project in an attempt to raise money. > > #7 - has on numerous occasions, solicited interest in holding media events, concerts, festivals et cetera, which would not be in any way linked to the LPL, but which would be funded by the LPL, in exchange for a share of the proceeds of such events. (if any) In all of these events, personal friends and himself, were to also profit. > > There is nothing unethical in pitching a plan or project in an attempt to raise money. > > #8 - attempted to divert discussion at an SCC meeting concerning online donation logistics, towards using his personal contacts or himself as "bundlers" for LPL funds. > > There is nothing unethical in pitching a plan or project in an attempt to raise money. > > #9 - attempting to attend a private fundraiser for a Presidential Campaign without making a required donation, and while inviting a guest who also would not make a required donation, thus each of them partaking of access to the candidate and party activists and of food and drink provided, without contribution. > > As a member of the State Central Committee and Vice-Chairman, I think he, the Chairman and Secretary should be entitled to free admission to such events. I do not know and I suspect his guest was a member of the press. The press is always granted free access to events and the associated food and drink. > > ============================================== > > IN CONCLUSION: > > MR. CHAIRMAN, IF THERE IS ANYONE DERELICT IN HIS DUTY IT IS YOU FOR FAILURE TO KEEP IN CLOSE WORKING CONTACT AND COMMUNICATION WITH YOUR SECOND IN COMMAND, THE VICE CHAIRMAN. > > MR. CHAIRMAN, IF THERE IS ANYONE GUILTY OF CONDUCT UNBECOMING TO THE OFFICE IT IS YOU FOR THE MANNER IN WHICH YOU HANDLED THIS ISSUE. > > MR. CHAIRMAN, IF THERE IS ANYONE GUILTY OF UNETHICAL CONDUCT IT IS YOU FOR MAKING FALSE CHARGES, SENDING YOUR UNSUBSTANTIATED CHARGES OUT TO ONLY PART OF THE STATE CENTRAL COMMITTEE AND FOR FAILING TO EVEN ASK THE PERSON YOU LAY CHARGES ON TO RESPOND BEFORE ATTEMPTING SENDING OUT THIS DIATRIBE. > > ? > > FELLOW CENTRAL COMMITTEE MEMBERS, I CALL UPON YOUR GOOD JUDGMENT TO FIND THIS ATTEMPT TO BESMIRCH THE NAME, HONOR AND REPUTATION OF OUR VICE CHAIRMAN SCOTT LEWIS, BASELESS AND TO REBUKE THE CHAIRMAN. I ALSO ASK THE CHAIRMAN FORMALLY APOLOGIZE TO THE VICE CHAIRMAN FOR THIS DASTARDLY ATTEMPT TO REMOVE A GOOD MAN FROM OFFICE. MR. CHAIRMAN, I DO NOT CALL FOR YOUR RESIGNATION. YOU ARE YOUNG AND INEXPERIENCED. LEARN FROM THIS. I HAVE GREAT HOPE FOR THE GROWTH OF THE PARTY UNDER YOUR LEADERSHIP AND IN THE FUTURE, PLEASE DO NOT LET YOUR MISDIRECTED PERSONAL ANGER OVERRIDE YOUR GOOD SENSE AND CUSTOMARY DIPLOMACY. > > ========================== > > The following is the current bill of charges against the Vice Chairman as well as the responses I made as the defense spokesperson for the Vice Chairman, note again the vague nature of most of the charges and the repetition of charges already supposedly resolved. > > ATTACHMENT TWO > > Wes Benedict - Finance Officer > Howard Kearney - Membership Officer > Boyd Smith - Elections Officer > > Pursuant to the directions in the email from our Chairman, I have information of bearing on this issue. I will ask you pursuant to the directions, to not share this outside of your group and I include the current party Chairman as OUTSIDE of this investigation group. " The committee will conduct its investigation with the utmost discretion." > > Before we get into the charges I want you to know who Scott A. Lewis is. > > EDUCATION: > > High School- Southern Laboratory H.S. (lettered in football, basketball, track, baseball and basket ball) > > COLLEGE: > > Grambling State University Louisiana (4 years) > > Southern University (1). > > All American - College Football, > > DRAFTED NFL 1971 second round, to the KANSAS CITY CHIEFS. > > NFL Professional Athlete (Kansas City CHIEFS and Houston OILERS) > > WFL World Football League: Chicago Fire and Detroit Wheels. > > EMPLOYMENT: > > Self-employed Businessman, Civil Rights Activist and Community Leader. > > Enjoyed 20 successful years functioning as CORPORATE MEDIA INDEPENDANT LIASON > > FOR/WITH: > > Communities, FORTUNE 500 International Corporations, National Political Leaders, Community Leaders. > > CEO/President /Owner S. A. Lewis, III & Associates; and Stockholder of Louisiana Inner City Business Alliance, Inc. d/b/a Louisiana Inner City Business, publication > > Media Relations, Distribution, Marketing and Promotions. > > CULTURAL - ENTERTAINMENT - ARTISTIC ACCOLADES: > > One of the first minorities to successfully integrate California Entertainment Industry as a grip at the Burbank Studios. > > Member of the Press WXOK, Radio 1460 AM (1972). > > PROFESSIONAL FILM-THEATER AFFILIATIONS: > > Black Theatre and Performing Arts (Houston, Texas) > > FILM CREDITS: > > 1974 American International Pictures, "Buck Town" directed by Arthur Marks. > > 1975 MGM Studios, "Drum" Directed by Steve Carver. > > AUDIO: > > Voice-overs for "Cooley High". > > INTERNSHIP: > > American International pictures for screening and editing. > > COMMUNITY SERVICE: > > (Houston, Texas) Project P.U.L.L. (Professional United Leadership League) Director: Ernie Ladd. Focus: Youth building. > > Served on F.A.M.E. Inc., (Fraternal Athletic Marketing Enterprises, Inc.) > > Marketing Campaign Strategist for United Founders Insurance Company designing advertising, placement and on-site promotions. > > Public Relations /Press Media liaison for Record Retailers Houston, Texas > > Professional Entertainers Events Security Coordinator PACE Management (Houston, Texas) > > Professional Concert Event Coordinator /Press liaison for Professional Entertainers > > Event Marketing /Promotion to the Stars (Houston, Texas) > > Artist Development Representatives for High Profile Recording Industry Labels/Moguls > > Wrote and produced "Let's Set the Record Straight" and "The Evolution" television programs > > Artist management various artist. > > Wrote and produced several songs for distribution, ("Gotta Lotta Respect") Produced multiple video productions, LA > > Photographed a multitude of well known and not so well known people, LA > > Journalist/Editor/Photographer/Video News Producer > > Inducted into the Southern University Laboratory High School Athletic Hall of Fame Awarded the Light House award. > > ORGANIZATIONS AND AFFILIATIONS PAST AND PRESENT: > > Member of Prince Hall Masonic Grand Lodge of Louisiana > > SAG - Screen Actors Guild > > YBPC - Young Black Programmers Coalition > > Kiwanis Club > > NAACP > > Honorary Louisiana Senator > > Honorary Louisiana State Representative > > Who's Who in Black Music > > BMI - Writer & Publisher > > YMCA - Black Achievers > > LECTURE: > > LA Edutainment Council for Touring United Recording Entrepreneurs > > Baton Rouge NAACP Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Celebration Committee > > The Black Family Leadership Plan > > Louisiana Music > > POLITICAL RACES: > > Secretary of State 2003 > > All 4143 precincts reporting > > "Al" Donovan (D) 22.42% 284125 > > Scott Lewis (O) 5.28% 66969 > > W. Fox McKeithen (R) 72.30% 916235 > > 2003 Results. > > Secretary of State 2007 > > All 3967 precincts reporting > > "Jay" Dardenne (R) 63.32% 757821 > > Scott Lewis (O) 5.41% 64723 > > "R." Wooley (D) 31.27% > > 2007 results > > Governor 2011 > > David Blanchard (N) 2.61% 26705 > > Leonard "Lenny" Bollingham (N) 0.51% 5242 > > "Ron" Ceasar (N) 0.80% 8179 > > Cary J. Deaton (D) 4.89% 50071 > > Tara Hollis (D) 17.88% 182925 > > "Bobby" Jindal (R) 65.80% 673239 > > William Robert "Bob" Lang, Jr. (N) 0.89% 9109 > > Scott Lewis (L) 1.22% 12528 > > "Niki Bird" Papazoglakis (D) 2.14% 21885 > > Ivo "Trey" Roberts (D) 3.25% 33280 > > 2011 results > > ============================================== > > With that in place, let's move on to the specious allegations and character assassination attempt by parties who cower and hide behind anonymous masks to hide their treachery. > > Charge 1. Dereliction of Duty of the Office of Vice-chairman > > Specification 1. Not being present for the convention at which he was elected, and at which he was to serve as an officer, being already duly elected by the previous convention. > > I, T. Lee Horne, III, was the Chairman at the referenced convention. I specifically told Vice-Chairman Lewis that he should attend a large NAACP conference in New Orleans to represent the Libertarian Party rather than come to the convention. This charge is a vicious lie by a coward who remains in the bushes throwing shit. > > Specification 2. Not being present for the first State Central Committee meeting, held in Alexandria, Louisiana, such attendance being required of his office by the By-laws, his absence preventing a quorum, causing members and officers to travel at great expense to themselves without purpose. > > Neither I T. Lee Horne, III nor Vice-Chairman Lewis attended in person, we were readily available by telephone and I so notified the Secretary and the Chairman that I would be ready and available should I be needed to reach a quorum. There was no response from either saying that such was not acceptable and such attendance by telephone had been acceptable during my term as Chairman. > > Both Scott and I were under the distinct impression from our understanding of party rules, rules we voted on that we could attend SCC meetings electronically and we were both available to attend electronically. > > Specification 3. Not being present for a meeting of the Strategic Planning Committee which he chairs, after calling the meeting, and inviting members from other parts of the State to attend, causing them to travel at great expense to themselves, and instead, attempting to chair a physical meeting by telephone in violation of Robert's Rules of Order. > > Robert's Rules clearly state that policy of any group over ride Robert's rules. It is and always was the policy of the Vice-Chairman to hold meetings by telephone conference whenever possible to save time and travel money for all members. He was not holding a dance class where the bodies had to be present. > > Specification 4. Failing to make any attempt to establish Parish Executive Committees for unorganized parishes as required of his office under the By-laws, leaving the work instead to be done at great personal effort and expense to the Executive Director, such work being outside the Director's contract, and causing considerable difficulties in negotiating agreeable payment terms for such contract. > > This requirement is a "best efforts" requirement. The Vice-Chairman has worked in and around Baton Rouge as this is his natural base of operation and East Baton Rouge PEC is proof of this work. > > Additionally the Vice-Chairman has made numerous trips to Alexandria, Lafayette, Houma, Thibodaux, La Place and other cities in attempt to establish activists who would form PECs in their Parishes. > > Once again this is baseless character assassination attempt by someone or group who just does not like the person in the office of Vice-Chairman. > > Specification 5. In the absence of established Parish Executive Committees, failing to take care that the duties assigned to these committees are carried out in their respective parishes, either by his own actions, or by the appointment of a parish director, organizer, or other member as the By-laws require. > > Aside from this "requirement" being a best efforts requirement, how is the Vice-Chairman to do this? Slavery has been outlawed for a very long time and absent of people willing to do this work how can the Vice-Chairman make anyone do anything against their free will. Indeed why would a good Libertarian even suggest that he should do such a thing? Charges should be brought against those who would even suggest such a thing. > > I submit that, if the Vice-Chairman is to be removed from office for dereliction of duty, then each and every one of us is subject to the same sanction right now today. > > ========================================================== > > The following were all long ago handled and resolved by the current Chairman and Vice-Chairman and have no place in this proceeding. > > Charge 2. Conduct Unbecoming an Officer of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana. > > Specification 1. Failing to turn in his Affidavit of Acceptance form for filing as a Presidential Elector. > > Whereas the first form was void in its form because the names were not correct and thus useless, this is a specious charge. > > Specification 2. Failing to turn in his Affidavit of Acceptance form, corrected version. > > Note that the first form was turned in if later than optimal still in a full timely fashion to get the party on the ballot. > > Phones work two ways. Did anyone call the Vice-Chairman and ask or inquire of him in any way? No, no one called. > > Specification 3. Failing to communicate why said form was not turned in the first time in a timely manner. > > Whereas the first form was void in its form because the names were not correct and thus useless, this is a specious charge. > > Specification 4. Failing to communicate why said form was not turned in at all the second time. > > Phones work two ways. Did anyone call the Vice-Chairman and ask or inquire of him in any way? Once again, no one called. > > Specification 5. Failing to display any concern for his tardiness in turning in these critical forms. > > Would you have him tear the pocket off of his shirt and wail loudly Mea Culpa? > > I was under the impression that the current Chairman and the current Vice Chairman had a long and private conversation on this subject, resolved all these issues. Indeed, I personally spoke with the current Chairman who said the Chairman and Vice-Chairman had resolved this in a phone conversation. > > Specification 6. Failing to display any interest in securing the forms before the legal deadline. > > Once again, I was under the impression that the current Chairman and the current Vice Chairman had a long and private conversation on this subject, resolved all these issues. Indeed, I personally spoke with the current Chairman who said the Chairman and Vice-Chairman had resolved this in a phone conversation. > > Specification 7. Lack of concern for known deadlines affecting ballot access for the Libertarian Presidential and Vice-Presidential candidates. > > Once again, I was under the impression that the current Chairman and the current Vice Chairman had a long and private conversation on this subject, resolved all these issues. Indeed, I personally spoke with the current Chairman who said the Chairman and Vice-Chairman had resolved this in a phone conversation. > > Specification 8. Causing the chair to go to great personal effort and expense to remedy the officer's failure to file required legal paperwork in a timely manner. > > Expense the Chairman could have easily avoided by the simple expedient of using the telephone, calling the Vice-Chairman, and meeting the Vice-Chairman in Baton Rouge on the way to the Office of the Secretary of State. > > Once again, I was under the impression that the current Chairman and the current Vice Chairman had a long and private conversation on this subject, resolved all these issues. Indeed, I personally spoke with the current Chairman who said the Chairman and Vice-Chairman had resolved this in a phone conversation. > > If any of these are allowed to stand then none of us may ever count on issues resolved directly between us and the Chairman being over and done with but will rather come up over and over. That is just wrong unjust and unfair. I don't know about you but I would not consider working with or under the never ending threat of old resolved charges being brought up over and over. > > ============================================================== > > Specification 9. Volunteering to be a co-director of a Presidential campaign for Louisiana, and subsequently failing to accomplish any task, attend any function, offer any assistance with any planning or coordination of events, and essentially holding the position in name only. > > The person making this accusation needs to look in a mirror. The Vice-Chairman called repeatedly to speak with Reed Ebarb on the campaign. Reed Ebarb refused to take his calls, refused to answer any email communications and indeed Reed Ebarb prohibited the Vice-Chairman and a member of the Press James Terry, a Capital reporter for the Associated Press, from attending and covering the Presidential campaign event in Louisiana and thus denying our Presidential candidate good press coverage by a major news outlet. Reed Ebarb should face charges on this but I convinced the vice-Chairman to not push it for the good of the party. > > Specification 10. Making false and baseless accusations of racism against a fellow state Central Committee member. > > From what I can see of Reed Ebarb's actions the shoe fits and he should wear it. I am glad he resigned and I believe Reed Ebarb to be actively working to destroy the party with this whole proceeding. > > Specification 11. Making an announcement for elective office in a public forum without advising the State Central Committee in advance, thereby raising questions among the general membership and the voting public with respect to the Libertarian Party's implied endorsement of his candidacy, and drawing their leadership into question accordingly. > > There is no party by law nor state ethics board violation here. Reed Ebarb is on a personal vendetta. Reed Ebarb by his actions proven to be a prejudice bigot. > > Specification 12. Failing to form an exploratory committee in advance of this public announcement, making the announcement without any established campaign committee, platform, or ready biography for prospective voters and media. > > There is no party by law nor state ethics board violation here. But for the record that little introduction I made at the beginning of this, well it has been available on line for YEARS over on MySpace and other location so don't even try to tell me any one made any good effort to find it. > > As for the platform and other issues, the Vice-Chairman came to the party members in various on line forums and asked the members what was important to them. The Vice-Chairman came to the members asking for assistance in fleshing out the specifics, he already has the general state platform and was asking for people to contribute specific issues. All he got for his trouble was a ration of shit. That is no way to treat a candidate. > > Reed Ebarb is on a personal vendetta. He has by his actions in this matter proven to be an unforgiving and unrepentant prejudice bigot. > > Specification 13. Failing to provide any such platform or biographical statement upon the request of prospective voters, Officers and other party members. > > This charge is just a rehash of the previous charge in another form solely in an attempt to smear the Vice Chairman. > > Specification 14. Filing for elective office in 2011 and failing to duly answer media inquiries, creating a poor impression on voters and media of the Libertarian Party, its candidates, and its leadership. > > This is another load of crap. The Vice-Chairman did answer all but ONE reporter. That reporter only gave one day for a replay saying, he would get the information from the League of Women Voters site if the Vice-Chairman did not answer this one reporter in the short dead line given. NOW, how can the Vice-Chairman have had information up at the League of Women Voters and this charge even be remotely valid? > > This once again is a person vendetta by bigots. > > ======================================================= > > Charge 3. Unethical Conduct > > Specification 1. Attempting to get reimbursed for the notarizing of an Affidavit of Acceptance form in 2008, such cost, incidental to being a candidate for elective office, being only legally payable by the candidate or a candidate's committee, and which cannot be paid by the Party. > > There is nothing unethical about asking to be re-paid for money paid out of his pocket for the party. Reed Ebarb was the representative for the Candidate in the state and present when the request was made. Never did Reed Ebarb clarify from whom the repayment was to come, thus causing the Vice-Chairman to be unable to be reimbursed. Where I come from this is called malicious and a setup. The man and his may as well be wearing white sheet and hood. > > Specification 2. Attending a 2009 Libertarian State Leadership Alliance conference, in the Chairman's proxy, at Party expense, for the purpose of learning more about the new CiviCRM online database system, but instead, using the opportunity to pitch a dubious fundraising scheme to other state chairs in concert with a personal business partner who made the trip, also at Party expense. > > I must ask of the anonymous accuser, were you there or is this hear say and gossip as regards the activities of the Vice-Chairman at the conference? I will grant that a business associate did go along and said business associate paid for half the fuel, used his car and paid for half of the room. The party preapproved the expense and did give the Vice-Chairman the credit card to pay for the travel. The trip actually cost the party less. > > Specification 3. Soliciting the LPL to enter into an expensive and poorly worded contract to raise funds for the Party through a 3rd party via the selling of medical information devices, this being the same scheme pitched at the aforementioned conference, and one in which he has personal connections to the 3rd party which would profit from the contract. > > There is nothing unethical, immoral or illegal in pitching a plan or project in an attempt to raise money for the party. There was no threat, no extortion, this was just a business offer. > > Specification 4. Attempting to get reimbursed for travel expenses as a condition of fulfilling duties of his office. (traveling to a and from State Central Committee meetings) > > There is nothing unethical about asking to be re-paid for money paid. He was not extorting money, only asking if the costs could be re-paid. > > Specification 5. Seeking reimbursement for travel and lodging to attend the NAACP 2012 convention as a "liaison" to that organization and representative of the Party. > > There is nothing unethical about asking to be re-paid for money paid. He was not extorting money, only asking if the costs could be re-paid. > > Specification 6. Soliciting the Party and a Congressional candidate to use his personal business services at expense to the Party and the Candidate. > > What? Do not sign painters and people making yard signs charge for their work? The Vice-Chairman was offering his professional services at a discount to his normal prices. There is nothing unethical in pitching a plan or project in an attempt to do business with the party. There was no demand or threat, only and offer. > > Specification 7. Using a Strategic Planning Committee meeting to solicit the party again to use these same services. > > Again I ask, Do not sign painters and people making yard signs charge for their work? The Vice-Chairman was offering his professional services at a discount to his normal prices. There is nothing unethical in pitching a plan or project in an attempt to do business with the party. There was no demand or threat, only an offer. > > Specification 8. Using a Strategic Planning Committee meeting to solicit volunteers and support from party activists and officers for his campaign for elective office, rather than using the meeting to plan strategy for the Party. > > How does anyone ethically and reasonably make such ludicrous charges? This is just a rehash of Specification 12 above in the conduct unbecoming section and I will answer it the same. > > As for the platform and other issues, the Vice-Chairman came to the party members in various on line forums and asked the members what was important to them. The Vice-Chairman came to the members asking for assistance in fleshing out the specifics, he already has the general state platform and was asking for people to contribute specific issues. All he got for his trouble was a ration of shit. That is no way to treat a candidate. > > Specification 8. Using a Strategic Planning Committee meeting to solicit volunteers and support from party activists and officers for his campaign for elective office, rather than using the meeting to plan strategy for the Party. > > This is the same charge reworded and as such just a rehash of Specification 12 in the above section on conduct unbecoming. The answer is the same. > > As for the platform and other issues, the Vice-Chairman came to the party members in various on line forums and asked the members what was important to them. The Vice-Chairman came to the members asking for assistance in fleshing out the specifics, he already has the general state platform and was asking for people to contribute specific issues. All he got for his trouble was a ration of shit. That is no way to treat a candidate. > > Specification 9. Attempting to involve the Party in an electronic communications scheme which would expose its contact list to his personal business interests. > > This is so vague as to be completely unanswerable. It is just another smear by someone attempting a personal vendetta and character assassination. > > Specification 10. Has on numerous occasions, solicited interest in holding media events, concerts, festivals et cetera, which would not in any way be publicly linked to the Party, but which would be partly or entirely funded by the Party, in exchange for a share of the proceeds of such events, if any. In all of these events, personal friends and himself, were to also profit. > > This is an interesting half truth. Yes money making events have been proposed. The party is constantly and incessantly saying it needs money, has no money can't do this or that because there is no money. The Vice-Chairman has made good faith efforts to offer his services to the party for fund raising. These are legitimate business offers and the party is and has always been free to accept or decline. > > Specification 11. Attempting to divert discussion at a State Central Committee meeting concerning online donation logistics towards using his personal contacts or himself as "bundlers" for Party funds. > > I submit that there is not enough information in this charge to make a response. Once again it appears to be the blather of a prejudice bigot intent on smearing the Vice-Chairman. > > In any case, there is nothing unethical in pitching a plan or project in an attempt to raise money. > > I submit that if the Vice-Chairman is to be removed from office for asking if expenses incurred for the party at the direction and request of the party could be repaid and for proposing money making projects then several others must also be removed and NONE will ever be brave enough to ever again suggest ways to raise money. > > ==================================== > > In summary, what you see before you gentlemen is an attempt by a party or parties mostly unknown, cowardly hiding in the shadows making unsubstantiated charges. Yes the party has a problem. The problem is with this self-righteous, mean-spirited and bigoted crew and Reed Ebarb is the current leader. > > As a friend of mine put it, "The have got together the mob. They have found the rope. And they are going to hang someone." Do not let yourselves be the tree these bastards use to hang a good man. > > Sincerely, > > T. Lee Horne, III > > for the defendant. > > FROM: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] ON BEHALF OF Adrien Monteleone > SENT: Friday, March 29, 2013 3:27 PM > TO: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors > SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Internal party foolishness. > > To all Board members, > > The following is my response to a communication from T. Lee Horne, who has been communicating directly with Mr. Lewis through this present judicial action. > > I am now including the rest of you in this discussion because this has grown beyond any attempt to handle this matter quietly and without full attention of the Board. Please scroll down and read from the bottom up for the proper order of the thread. You will see why I felt it necessary, since everyone is now personally involved, that I chose to include the entire Board. > > ------------------------- > > What case does he intend to bring in a court? > > There is nothing illegal about an organization attempting to remove a member or disciplining a member. > > Is the involvement of the NAACP mean he is alleging he can't be subject to disciplinary procedures because of his skin color? > > Is he alleging he can never be removed from office through the rules and the procedures in Robert's because of his skin color? > > No cause for relief from a court exists as of today. > > No action has been taken by the Board against him. > > Allegations are being investigated. There has not yet been a trial nor any decision been made. He has not been harmed in any way, and certainly not publicly. This information is strictly within the confines of the Board members. > > Is he alleging just the mere investigation is an injury to him? > > Is a private organization powerless to investigate allegations against one of its members? > > Is he alleging this powerlessness is simply due to his skin color? > > Recall, one of the allegations is an unsubstantiated claim of racism against a fellow Board member. By threatening legal action on such grounds, and for things which are according to our By-laws and accordingly under Robert's Rules of Order as our Parliamentary authority, within the Board's prerogative to engage in, he is in fact, making a blatant unsubstantiated claim of racism. He is outright claiming that rightful action and behavior by the Party is inherently racist, simply because of his skin color, thus falsely claiming that he is not and can never be subject to any such procedures or subject to enforcement of any rules or By-laws because of his skin color. > > He just added another specification to his charges. > > And you just provided the evidence with his quote. > > And this time, it isn't against just one or two members, he is now claiming the entire Board is racist just for the mere "crime" that some of them sit on the Board. Recall, other Board members have not signed on to these charges. No one, not even the Secretary has weighed in or commented on them. And no such comments would even be appropriate at this time. (as I think everyone recognizes) > > I made it clear that a committee was appointed to investigate the veracity of the charges. Thus it is apparent, their status as fact is not yet decided and no opinion should be offered on such until the committee issues its report. > > Thus he is accusing everyone, who simply received notice as he has, of being racist for their mere presence on the Board, and is threatening them with legal action on such grounds. > > His legal counsel would do well to reconsider, as would he, so as not to be sanctioned by any court of law for bringing a frivolous suit. There's not much harsher a rebuke a court can issue an attorney beyond declaring their suit "frivolous." Alleging a crime and demanding relief from a court, on the grounds that members of the Board are merely members of the Board is a good candidate for such a rebuke and dismissal of such a case "with prejudice." (which is a legal term meaning "don't ever bring this before this court again, as it will be dismissed outright without being considered. And this is not appeal-able and will not be reconsidered.") > > Not only will this cause the Investigative Committee to add this to its specification list, I doubt highly that it will engender him any votes in support of his non-guilt or encourage anyone to give deference and vote to retain him in his office. > > If his fate wasn't already sealed by a potentially long list of improper actions if they are verified, this one action on his part, which now the entire Board is aware of, may be sufficient to secure his removal, and likely now expulsion and life-time banishment from the party. > > Lawsuits are an act of government force. As Libertarians, we do not believe in initiating force to solve our disputes. In fact, we find it reprehensible. We do of course allow for self-defense, or the proper seeking of redress for previous injury or use of force by someone else upon us. > > Since no force has been used against Mr. Lewis, no any injury committed upon him, and since an organization has every right and power to protect itself from members it deems are harmful or destructive to its purpose, and since the Board has not even heard all of the evidence or taken any official decision on the allegations, Mr. Lewis' threat of the use of force might well constitute an initial use, and would therefore be about as un-Libertarian as one can muster without actually using direct physical violence against someone. > > This may well provide the justification for penalties of expulsion and life-time banishment. > > Mr. Lewis is making it clear by such threats that he has zero interest in the Party and no concern for its purposes, or even respect for its most basic tenet. > > As chairman, I will not allow this process to be turned into a round robin circus of threats. > > The Board has to follow the procedures in Robert's Rules and our By-Laws, and so does the accused. He will be given ample opportunity to defend himself against any charges brought against him, if the investigators bring any, the Board will then deliberate according to Robert's on the question of guilt and the appropriate disciplinary measures if he is found guilty. > > I will also not allow this Board to be intimidated, in any way shape or form, especially via threats of lawsuits for conducting themselves according to our established and accepted By-Laws, Rules, and Parliamentary Authority and certainly not for merely being members of the Board. > > Mr. Lewis VOLUNTEERED for this position and has served on this Board since April 2008, and in his current capacity since September 2008. The rules and procedures have never been secret from him. He has even voted, on the record at conventions, to adopt the present By-laws which we all now serve under. > > ------------------------- > > I hereby declare that it is the opinion of the Chair that such threats and behavior on Mr. Lewis' part are entirely OUT OF ORDER and remonstrate him to not only refrain from making any such further threats or making such similar speech or comments, or taking any action upon such words and threats, but call upon his IMMEDIATE, UNCONDITIONAL, and UNEQUIVOCAL apology to ALL Board members. > > Since this infraction occurred outside of a meeting, but one that now the entire Board is aware of, according to the procedures as outlined in ?61 of Robert's Rules of Order, I, as Chairman of the Board, hereby instruct the Investigative Committee to add to their list of Specifications under Charge 3 - Unethical Conduct or whichever charge, or an additional charge if they see fit, the aforementioned threats of use of government force against the Board in general and a single member in particular, AND a Specification, under whatever charge, or an additional charge, as they see fit, for the unsubstantiated claims or insinuation of racism upon the entire Board or any of them, simply for being on the Board, and for actions not yet taken, said actions being within the prerogative of the Board under its right to discipline its members and protect itself from members whom it deems dangerous or destructive to itself and/or its purposes. > > In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > On 3/28/13 2:24 PM, T Lee Horne III wrote: > >> Adrien, >> >> I spoke with Scott Lewis at length just now. He is quite angry now. He has been talking with his friends who are, as friends will be, very much in his corner and they are not helping me calm him down. One of his friends is a lawyer and is suggesting pro bono legal action against Reed personally and the party in general. I'll need at least another over night to work on calming this down. >> >> It may not calm down, in which case there will be blood in fields so to speak. Reed will have won a very pyrrhic victory. It will cost him all he has and all he may ever get just in legal fees. This could easily turn into an NAACP vs. Libertarian Party of Louisiana State Central Committee battle. There are a lot more of members at the NAACP than there are at the LPLA. Can the treasury take this risk? >> >> As Scott said, "They formed the mob, they brought the rope and they are looking for a tree and I'm going to defend myself." >> >> T LEE HORNE, III >> >> Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA >> >> President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 >> >> Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 >> >> Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 >> >> tleehorneiii at gmail.com >> >> 318-542-4445 google voice >> >> tleehorneiii skype >> >> HTTP://BIT.LY/12ZAQMS [1] >> >> FROM: Adrien Monteleone [mailto:chairman at lplouisiana.org] >> SENT: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 1:57 PM >> TO: Paladin at LPLouisiana.org >> SUBJECT: Re: Internal party foolishness. >> >> ... > > The Investigative Committee already has plans to talk to Scott once they were informed he had received the official notice. > > (has he received it yet?) > > But certainly, they can do so now regardless. > > Charges do not have to be officially brought. They haven't even finished investigating yet. > > This suggestion is perfectly within the framework of Robert's. > > I'll inform the Investigative Committee at once so they can contact Scott and get this over with. > > If he resigns - and certainly if he does so to focus on the campaign, the committee can simply drop the matter and return "no bill" as you suggest since the issue would be a moot point. > > I wouldn't have him address the charges directly in any letter of resignation though. They aren't public outside of the Board and never will be. But his resignation will be official record if someone wants to read it. Best to leave it speaking only of his campaign reasons. If he feels compelled to say something in some fashion otherwise, perhaps the usual artful phrases "differences of vision/opinion" or "irreconcilable differences" would be best. > > If however, he waits too long and we have to proceed with a trial before he offers to resign, the Board under Robert's can refuse the resignation as affecting the trial and proceed anyway. Our By-laws state his resignation is always effective without the need for acceptance, and this would still be true, but the Board could proceed with the trial, still vote on guilt or innocence, and still vote to impose other penalties or sanctions. The sooner the resignation is offered the better. > > ... > > In Liberty,? ? ? Adrien Monteleone - Chairman? Libertarian Party of Louisiana? > > On 3/27/13 5:47 AM, T Lee Horne III wrote: > >> Adrien, >> >> I sent the following to Scott Lewis this morning. >> >> Scott, >> >> ... >> >> I'm thinking it may be time to end the BS and go your own way. It's just a matter of negotiation. To me the issue is clearing the charges with a rebuttal and a resignation all at the same time in the same letter. That will give you a clean exit and if the investigating tribunal will return "No Bill" as in no charges you resign with a clean and clear name. What say you? >> >> =========================== >> >> Adrien, do you think this can be done on the side of the party? I know Scott wants to be able to say he resigned because he found his campaign needed more attention and he did not feel he could effectively be vice-chairman and run a full time campaign. I know we are bending things a little and that is the art and science of political negotiation. >> >> T LEE HORNE, III >> >> Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA >> >> President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 >> >> Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 >> >> Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 >> >> tleehorneiii at gmail.com >> >> 318-542-4445 Google voice >> >> tleehorneiii Skype >> >> HTTP://BIT.LY/12ZAQMS [1] > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [2] Links: ------ [1] http://bit.ly/12zAQMS [2] http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [3] http://www.lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From secretary at lplouisiana.org Mon Apr 1 22:29:20 2013 From: secretary at lplouisiana.org (Reed Ebarb) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 22:29:20 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Resignation In-Reply-To: <1364830482.97329.YahooMailNeo@web161905.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <5e4eda4ba613074e8e167d06b7db357a.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> <000901ce25a0$ab7cf010$0276d030$@org> <0e19b935b93a110f1a6a57a8d2e59d71.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> <001001ce2ee2$18d7de50$4a879af0$@org> <1364830482.97329.YahooMailNeo@web161905.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6dd6f0ed291fcbf92a72eb71127c6f85.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> I am greatly sorry for me and Mr. Hayes joking around through private message and having some fun was mistaken for us being in on this together. Lets remember, that line proves nothing. > Sal?Giangrosso is the name.? > ? > bws > > From: T Lee Horne III > To: 'Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors' > Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 9:06 AM > Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Resignation > > In reply to the nomination of Daniel Hayes, I say no. Mr. Hayes has proven > to me by his actions in discussion forums that he is nothing more than a > heckler, nitpicker, trouble maker and baboon. Witness also that he is a co > conspirator with Reed Ebarb in the (what appears to me to be a racist) > smear > campaign against the Vice Chairman. Likewise Mitch Dufour is also unfit. > See > the following: > ------------------- > March 19 via mobile > Time for heads to roll. - with Daniel Hayes. > Like . . Share > > Mitch Dufour ???.......... > March 19 at 11:05pm . Like > > Reed Ebarb You'll have to call for the details on this one > March 19 at 11:05pm via mobile . March 19 > ------------------------ > T Lee Horne, III > Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA > President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 > Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 > Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 > tleehorneiii at gmail.com > 318-542-4445 google voice > tleehorneiii skype > http://bit.ly/12zAQMS > > -----Original Message----- > From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On > Behalf Of Reed Ebarb > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 10:05 PM > To: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors > Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Resignation > > To the Ben Arnold idea, I would vote hell no. I would second everything > Adrien and add something. Ben is out for himself. He would be a huge > liability and bring little to nothing to the table. > >> We may have one.? Daniel Hayes has a possible name.? I think Sal >> Giangrosso.? He has a history with the LP and has experience in >> Banking and finance if I recall correctly. >> >> bws >> >>> The former Shreveport Meetup leader, Benjamin Arnold, would make a >>> good Secretary. I'll nominate him. I inquired of Benjamin and he said >>> he would be honored to serve. He works days so meeting would have to >>> be nights, evenings or days when he is not working. >>> >>> If anyone else has more time and is willing please step up. >>> >>> I do not have a candidate for treasurer. Anyone? >>> >>> T Lee Horne, III >>> Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA President of Brumby >>> Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 Former Chairman of Libertarian Party >>> of Louisiana 2009-2012 Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran >>> a 4 year campaign >>> 2003-2007 >>> tleehorneiii at gmail.com >>> 318-542-4445 google voice >>> tleehorneiii skype >>> http://bit.ly/12zAQMS >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SCC mailing list >>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> > > > If you have not already done so, please consider becoming a dues member of > the Libertarian Party of Louisiana by visiting louisianalibertarian.net > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > ---------------------------------------------------- > This message has been processed by Firetrust Benign. > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org_______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > If you have not already done so, please consider becoming a dues member of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana by visiting louisianalibertarian.net From membership at lplouisiana.org Tue Apr 2 07:47:29 2013 From: membership at lplouisiana.org (Membership LPL) Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 07:47:29 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Donation question Message-ID: <000001ce2fa0$3cfb0640$b6f112c0$@org> Sorry for the interruption. At the last caucus I attended I was asked what the 'Lifetime' membership. I presumed at the time they were talking about Louisiana Party but maybe they were asking about the National level. Now I wish I had asked the follow up question. But I did say I'd look into it. Do we have a 'Lifetime' member for the LPL? Also, while I was trying to figure this out myself, what do these levels mean (other than clever marketing which I like!) that I found on the website? I guess I'm asking do these afford any additional benefit to the donating member? $10.00 - Supporting Pledge $17.76 - 1776 Club $30.00 - Dollar-A-Day for Liberty $50.00 - Freedom Pledge $100.00 - Silver Pledge $250.00 - Golden Pledge --------------------------- Howard Kearney Membership From chairman at lplouisiana.org Tue Apr 2 09:58:05 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 09:58:05 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Donation question In-Reply-To: <000001ce2fa0$3cfb0640$b6f112c0$@org> References: <000001ce2fa0$3cfb0640$b6f112c0$@org> Message-ID: <515AF1FD.7010907@lplouisiana.org> Howard, Your questions are never an interruption. The various levels are a marketing ploy for now. We decided that if we only had one level, that's all we'd get. Same with the annual membership levels. If you make a one-time donation, I think you also get to choose from preset levels or declare your own custom amount. Our former Membership Officer had been working on getting quotes for producing membership cards. I think he gave all his research to Reed. If you can get that stuff from him and then follow up, that would be great. I've been meaning to ask you about doing so, but for some reason, I keep getting side tracked with other issues if you catch my drift. I know your time is valuable, and I have already asked a great deal of you, but if you have a bit to spare to report back some figures at the next meeting I would appreciate it. If not, that's okay. We'll get it straight for next time. When you get to it, we're looking for a nice credit card style member card. Raised lettering is preferred, though we may have to save that for high dollar members, or even buy our own lettering press to make it cost effective. I've looked into card printers, but that's in the multi-thousand dollar range. At the moment, we just want cards for the various annual levels. I think we'll end up doing 'thank you' gifts for the one-time donors and pledges. (and maybe some gifts for the higher membership levels as well) We have no lifetime member level yet. One was suggested but the motion died without being voted on. I'll try again this next meeting if there is time. The Bylaws authorize it, but do not specify the level. We've never had lifetime memberships before and we only have had dues since 2008 when I was in my first stint as Chair, so I don't think there are any from many moons ago that we need to honor. In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 4/2/13 7:47 AM, Membership LPL wrote: > Sorry for the interruption. > > At the last caucus I attended I was asked what the 'Lifetime' membership. I > presumed at the time they were talking about Louisiana Party but maybe they > were asking about the National level. Now I wish I had asked the follow up > question. But I did say I'd look into it. > > Do we have a 'Lifetime' member for the LPL? > > Also, while I was trying to figure this out myself, what do these levels > mean (other than clever marketing which I like!) that I found on the > website? I guess I'm asking do these afford any additional benefit to the > donating member? > > $10.00 - Supporting Pledge > $17.76 - 1776 Club > $30.00 - Dollar-A-Day for Liberty > $50.00 - Freedom Pledge > $100.00 - Silver Pledge > $250.00 - Golden Pledge > > > --------------------------- > Howard Kearney > Membership > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: chairman.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 283 bytes Desc: not available URL: From membership at lplouisiana.org Wed Apr 3 07:54:45 2013 From: membership at lplouisiana.org (Membership LPL) Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 07:54:45 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Donation question In-Reply-To: <515AF1FD.7010907@lplouisiana.org> References: <000001ce2fa0$3cfb0640$b6f112c0$@org> <515AF1FD.7010907@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <000001ce306a$6bb2ce30$43186a90$@org> Adrien; I have an idea that initially we create laminated business card style membership cards. When we reach 10,000 members, then we look at taking it to the next level. My idea is manual but at present we are not bringing in hundreds at a time but just a few per week. As I'm sure you know there are companies that provide these services and there are machines & software we could purchase to do it ourselves. The question I have is do we create a new membership card every year for every member? This question I believe is the most critical, as based on this will really drive the cost and effort. I did a simple search on OfficeDepot for the cost of a simple card laminator machine, paper, and laminate is $80-90 (or 80 to 90 cents per card). This will initially print 100 membership cards. Then for each additional 100 cards the cost drops to about $20 per 100 (or 20 cents per card). I will be more than happy to purchase this and donate to LPL. If I leave the Membership office; I will give this to the next person to continue using (that's what donating means). J --------------------------- Howard Kearney Membership From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of Adrien Monteleone Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 9:58 AM To: scc at lplouisiana.org Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Donation question Howard, Your questions are never an interruption. The various levels are a marketing ploy for now. We decided that if we only had one level, that's all we'd get. Same with the annual membership levels. If you make a one-time donation, I think you also get to choose from preset levels or declare your own custom amount. Our former Membership Officer had been working on getting quotes for producing membership cards. I think he gave all his research to Reed. If you can get that stuff from him and then follow up, that would be great. I've been meaning to ask you about doing so, but for some reason, I keep getting side tracked with other issues if you catch my drift. I know your time is valuable, and I have already asked a great deal of you, but if you have a bit to spare to report back some figures at the next meeting I would appreciate it. If not, that's okay. We'll get it straight for next time. When you get to it, we're looking for a nice credit card style member card. Raised lettering is preferred, though we may have to save that for high dollar members, or even buy our own lettering press to make it cost effective. I've looked into card printers, but that's in the multi-thousand dollar range. At the moment, we just want cards for the various annual levels. I think we'll end up doing 'thank you' gifts for the one-time donors and pledges. (and maybe some gifts for the higher membership levels as well) We have no lifetime member level yet. One was suggested but the motion died without being voted on. I'll try again this next meeting if there is time. The Bylaws authorize it, but do not specify the level. We've never had lifetime memberships before and we only have had dues since 2008 when I was in my first stint as Chair, so I don't think there are any from many moons ago that we need to honor. In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 4/2/13 7:47 AM, Membership LPL wrote: Sorry for the interruption. At the last caucus I attended I was asked what the 'Lifetime' membership. I presumed at the time they were talking about Louisiana Party but maybe they were asking about the National level. Now I wish I had asked the follow up question. But I did say I'd look into it. Do we have a 'Lifetime' member for the LPL? Also, while I was trying to figure this out myself, what do these levels mean (other than clever marketing which I like!) that I found on the website? I guess I'm asking do these afford any additional benefit to the donating member? $10.00 - Supporting Pledge $17.76 - 1776 Club $30.00 - Dollar-A-Day for Liberty $50.00 - Freedom Pledge $100.00 - Silver Pledge $250.00 - Golden Pledge --------------------------- Howard Kearney Membership _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Membeship Card Price estimate.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 36461 bytes Desc: not available URL: From chairman at lplouisiana.org Wed Apr 3 10:36:20 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2013 10:36:20 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Donation question In-Reply-To: <000001ce306a$6bb2ce30$43186a90$@org> References: <000001ce2fa0$3cfb0640$b6f112c0$@org> <515AF1FD.7010907@lplouisiana.org> <000001ce306a$6bb2ce30$43186a90$@org> Message-ID: <515C4C74.5020604@lplouisiana.org> Thanks for looking into that Howard. I think we wanted something nicer to start off with, but cost is a big consideration. I was expecting we'd have to order cards once per month, or once per quarter to keep shipping down or qualify for free shipping. Or, we could order several blank cards in advance and use a letter press machine to personalize them. I don't think we need to issue new cards each year. We can put a "member since" date on the cards and each card can have a member #. If ever we need to verify their current status, we just look them up. As it is, the only times anyone really needs a "valid" card would be conventions and biennial caucuses, so far. We should have a list of attendees in advance anyway. I don't think this will be a problem. I have a bunch of links for several card companies at work and will send them to you when I get there. I think the costs were about the same or better than what you described below. The only question would be quantity needed to get that price. I think the way they generally work is we pick a design and then upload a list of names, they produce the cards, and then send them to us. Of course, if we end up needing any of our own equipment, I think the LPL can afford that price with no problem. But feel free to make a donation to cover it if you like. 10,000 members is a long ways off. Remember, we're just issuing these to people who pay annually. I don't think we'll reasonably hit that number in the next 10 years. I hope to be wrong though. That would be a great problem to have. (I think even national has only 13,000 dues paying members) In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 4/3/13 7:54 AM, Membership LPL wrote: > > Adrien; > > I have an idea that initially we create laminated business card style > membership cards. When we reach 10,000 members, then we look at taking it to > the next level. My idea is manual but at present we are not bringing in > hundreds at a time but just a few per week. As I'm sure you know there are > companies that provide these services and there are machines & software we > could purchase to do it ourselves. > > The question I have is do we create a new membership card every year for > every member? This question I believe is the most critical, as based on this > will really drive the cost and effort. > > I did a simple search on OfficeDepot for the cost of a simple card laminator > machine, paper, and laminate is $80-90 (or 80 to 90 cents per card). This > will initially print 100 membership cards. Then for each additional 100 > cards the cost drops to about $20 per 100 (or 20 cents per card). > > I will be more than happy to purchase this and donate to LPL. If I leave the > Membership office; I will give this to the next person to continue using > (that's what donating means). J > > --------------------------- > > Howard Kearney > > Membership > > *From:*scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] *On > Behalf Of *Adrien Monteleone > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 02, 2013 9:58 AM > *To:* scc at lplouisiana.org > *Subject:* Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Donation question > > Howard, > > Your questions are never an interruption. > > The various levels are a marketing ploy for now. We decided that if we only > had one level, that's all we'd get. Same with the annual membership > levels. If you make a one-time donation, I think you also get to choose > from preset levels or declare your own custom amount. > > Our former Membership Officer had been working on getting quotes for > producing membership cards. I think he gave all his research to Reed. If > you can get that stuff from him and then follow up, that would be great. > I've been meaning to ask you about doing so, but for some reason, I keep > getting side tracked with other issues if you catch my drift. I know your > time is valuable, and I have already asked a great deal of you, but if you > have a bit to spare to report back some figures at the next meeting I would > appreciate it. If not, that's okay. We'll get it straight for next time. > When you get to it, we're looking for a nice credit card style member card. > Raised lettering is preferred, though we may have to save that for high > dollar members, or even buy our own lettering press to make it cost > effective. I've looked into card printers, but that's in the multi-thousand > dollar range. > > At the moment, we just want cards for the various annual levels. I think > we'll end up doing 'thank you' gifts for the one-time donors and pledges. > (and maybe some gifts for the higher membership levels as well) > > We have no lifetime member level yet. One was suggested but the motion died > without being voted on. I'll try again this next meeting if there is time. > The Bylaws authorize it, but do not specify the level. We've never had > lifetime memberships before and we only have had dues since 2008 when I was > in my first stint as Chair, so I don't think there are any from many moons > ago that we need to honor. > > > In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > On 4/2/13 7:47 AM, Membership LPL wrote: > > Sorry for the interruption. > > > > At the last caucus I attended I was asked what the 'Lifetime' membership. I > > presumed at the time they were talking about Louisiana Party but maybe they > > were asking about the National level. Now I wish I had asked the follow up > > question. But I did say I'd look into it. > > > > Do we have a 'Lifetime' member for the LPL? > > > > Also, while I was trying to figure this out myself, what do these levels > > mean (other than clever marketing which I like!) that I found on the > > website? 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Our Elections officer Boyd Smith would like approval to spend party funds on radio advertising our presence at the Ponchatoula Strawberry Festival this weekend. (to encourage people to stop by, learn more, and sign up as members and change voter registration to LP) He would like to run 1-2 commercials per day for Wednesday, Thursday & Friday. (deadlines mean maybe only Thurs. and Fri. are available) The cost for 60 second spots is $75. The cost for 30 second spots is $55. This includes production, but Boyd will be in charge of the script. The spots will be run during the John Osterlind and Denny Shaffer shows on WRNO which have both been friendly to the LP. (I think Osterlind already announced he is "libertarian" and endorsed Gary Johnson last fall) Their audience is friendly to our message as well. On the short side, this will cost $165 for three 30 second spots, or as much as $450 for six 60 second spots. It is estimated that this will increase traffic at the LP booth at the festival by about 200 to even maybe 600 people. We would need to generate 7 new memberships to break even on the low end, and 18 to break even on the high end. That would at worst be a 10% conversion rate, and at best, only 1%. I think either number is achievable. Additionally, if we vote to do this, donors can be targeted to pledge the extra bucks to cover the cost so there is still no net loss to the bank balance as of today. All those in favor of authorizing this expenditure please vote AYE as soon as possible. Time lost is time missed to run the spots and reach more people. Of course, our normal rules of 72 hours to vote still apply, but I urge you to get your vote in sooner if you are able. Now that we have 13 members on the Board, 7 will be needed for a quorum and a majority of those voting required for passage. If you intend to vote NAY, please also do that as soon as possible so we will know quickly if this measure would fail. -- -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: chairman.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 308 bytes Desc: not available URL: From elections at lplouisiana.org Tue Apr 9 13:46:18 2013 From: elections at lplouisiana.org (Boyd Wayne Smith) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 13:46:18 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - radio advertising In-Reply-To: <51646046.3040901@lplouisiana.org> References: <51646046.3040901@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: Aye. Boyd W. Smith Elections Officer > To all SCC members, > > My apologies for the short deadline of this vote. I generally do not > prefer to make such a request. > > Our Elections officer Boyd Smith would like approval to spend party > funds on radio advertising our presence at the Ponchatoula Strawberry > Festival this weekend. (to encourage people to stop by, learn more, and > sign up as members and change voter registration to LP) > > He would like to run 1-2 commercials per day for Wednesday, Thursday & > Friday. (deadlines mean maybe only Thurs. and Fri. are available) > > The cost for 60 second spots is $75. > The cost for 30 second spots is $55. > > This includes production, but Boyd will be in charge of the script. > > The spots will be run during the John Osterlind and Denny Shaffer shows > on WRNO which have both been friendly to the LP. (I think Osterlind > already announced he is "libertarian" and endorsed Gary Johnson last > fall) Their audience is friendly to our message as well. > > On the short side, this will cost $165 for three 30 second spots, or as > much as $450 for six 60 second spots. > > It is estimated that this will increase traffic at the LP booth at the > festival by about 200 to even maybe 600 people. > > We would need to generate 7 new memberships to break even on the low > end, and 18 to break even on the high end. That would at worst be a 10% > conversion rate, and at best, only 1%. I think either number is > achievable. > > Additionally, if we vote to do this, donors can be targeted to pledge > the extra bucks to cover the cost so there is still no net loss to the > bank balance as of today. > > All those in favor of authorizing this expenditure please vote AYE as > soon as possible. Time lost is time missed to run the spots and reach > more people. > > Of course, our normal rules of 72 hours to vote still apply, but I urge > you to get your vote in sooner if you are able. > > Now that we have 13 members on the Board, 7 will be needed for a quorum > and a majority of those voting required for passage. > > If you intend to vote NAY, please also do that as soon as possible so we > will know quickly if this measure would fail. > > > > -- > -- In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > From media at lplouisiana.org Tue Apr 9 13:55:01 2013 From: media at lplouisiana.org (Keith Thompson) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2013 13:55:01 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - radio advertising In-Reply-To: <51646046.3040901@lplouisiana.org> References: <51646046.3040901@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: Would we get a better rate if we produced the spot? Or is it the same cost regardless of production? - Keith On 2013-04-09 13:39, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > To all SCC members, > > My apologies for the short deadline of this vote. I generally do not prefer to make such a request. > > Our Elections officer Boyd Smith would like approval to spend party funds on radio advertising our presence at the Ponchatoula Strawberry Festival this weekend. (to encourage people to stop by, learn more, and sign up as members and change voter registration to LP) > > He would like to run 1-2 commercials per day for Wednesday, Thursday & Friday. (deadlines mean maybe only Thurs. and Fri. are available) > > The cost for 60 second spots is $75. > The cost for 30 second spots is $55. > > This includes production, but Boyd will be in charge of the script. > > The spots will be run during the John Osterlind and Denny Shaffer shows on WRNO which have both been friendly to the LP. (I think Osterlind already announced he is "libertarian" and endorsed Gary Johnson last fall) Their audience is friendly to our message as well. > > On the short side, this will cost $165 for three 30 second spots, or as much as $450 for six 60 second spots. > > It is estimated that this will increase traffic at the LP booth at the festival by about 200 to even maybe 600 people. > > We would need to generate 7 new memberships to break even on the low end, and 18 to break even on the high end. That would at worst be a 10% conversion rate, and at best, only 1%. I think either number is achievable. > > Additionally, if we vote to do this, donors can be targeted to pledge the extra bucks to cover the cost so there is still no net loss to the bank balance as of today. > > All those in favor of authorizing this expenditure please vote AYE as soon as possible. Time lost is time missed to run the spots and reach more people. > > Of course, our normal rules of 72 hours to vote still apply, but I urge you to get your vote in sooner if you are able. > > Now that we have 13 members on the Board, 7 will be needed for a quorum and a majority of those voting required for passage. > > If you intend to vote NAY, please also do that as soon as possible so we will know quickly if this measure would fail. > > -- > -- In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] Links: ------ [1] http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From boydw.smith at yahoo.com Tue Apr 9 14:05:57 2013 From: boydw.smith at yahoo.com (Boyd Smith) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 12:05:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - radio advertising In-Reply-To: References: <51646046.3040901@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <1365534357.58710.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> The same. ? Look this over and give what ever improvements that you can, please. ? bws From: Keith Thompson To: scc at lplouisiana.org Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - radio advertising Would we get a better rate if we produced the spot?? Or is it the same cost regardless of production? - Keith On 2013-04-09 13:39, Adrien Monteleone wrote: To all SCC members, > >My apologies for the short deadline of this vote.? I generally do not prefer to make such a request. > >Our Elections officer Boyd Smith would like approval to spend party funds on radio advertising our presence at the Ponchatoula Strawberry Festival this weekend. (to encourage people to stop by, learn more, and sign up as members and change voter registration to LP) > >He would like to run 1-2 commercials per day for Wednesday, Thursday & Friday. (deadlines mean maybe only Thurs. and Fri. are available) > >The cost for 60 second spots is $75. >The cost for 30 second spots is $55. > >This includes production, but Boyd will be in charge of the script. > >The spots will be run during the John Osterlind and Denny Shaffer shows on WRNO which have both been friendly to the LP. (I think Osterlind already announced he is "libertarian" and endorsed Gary Johnson last fall)? Their audience is friendly to our message as well. > >On the short side, this will cost $165 for three 30 second spots, or as much as $450 for six 60 second spots. > >It is estimated that this will increase traffic at the LP booth at the festival by about 200 to even maybe 600 people. > >We would need to generate 7 new memberships to break even on the low end, and 18 to break even on the high end. That would at worst be a 10% conversion rate, and at best, only 1%.? I think either number is achievable. > >Additionally, if we vote to do this, donors can be targeted to pledge the extra bucks to cover the cost so there is still no net loss to the bank balance as of today. > >All those in favor of authorizing this expenditure please vote AYE as soon as possible.? Time lost is time missed to run the spots and reach more people. > >Of course, our normal rules of 72 hours to vote still apply, but I urge you to get your vote in sooner if you are able. > >Now that we have 13 members on the Board, 7 will be needed for a quorum and a majority of those voting required for passage. > >If you intend to vote NAY, please also do that as soon as possible so we will know quickly if this measure would fail. > > >? > >-- -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana > >_______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I generally do not > prefer to make such a request. > > Our Elections officer Boyd Smith would like approval to spend party > funds on radio advertising our presence at the Ponchatoula Strawberry > Festival this weekend. (to encourage people to stop by, learn more, and > sign up as members and change voter registration to LP) > > He would like to run 1-2 commercials per day for Wednesday, Thursday & > Friday. (deadlines mean maybe only Thurs. and Fri. are available) > > The cost for 60 second spots is $75. > The cost for 30 second spots is $55. > > This includes production, but Boyd will be in charge of the script. > > The spots will be run during the John Osterlind and Denny Shaffer shows > on WRNO which have both been friendly to the LP. (I think Osterlind > already announced he is "libertarian" and endorsed Gary Johnson last > fall)? Their audience is friendly to our message as well. > > On the short side, this will cost $165 for three 30 second spots, or as > much as $450 for six 60 second spots. > > It is estimated that this will increase traffic at the LP booth at the > festival by about 200 to even maybe 600 people. > > We would need to generate 7 new memberships to break even on the low > end, and 18 to break even on the high end. That would at worst be a 10% > conversion rate, and at best, only 1%.? I think either number is > achievable. > > Additionally, if we vote to do this, donors can be targeted to pledge > the extra bucks to cover the cost so there is still no net loss to the > bank balance as of today. > > All those in favor of authorizing this expenditure please vote AYE as > soon as possible.? Time lost is time missed to run the spots and reach > more people. > > Of course, our normal rules of 72 hours to vote still apply, but I urge > you to get your vote in sooner if you are able. > > Now that we have 13 members on the Board, 7 will be needed for a quorum > and a majority of those voting required for passage. > > If you intend to vote NAY, please also do that as soon as possible so we > will know quickly if this measure would fail. > > > > -- > -- In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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III, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Boyd Wayne Smith Date: To: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - radio advertising Aye. Boyd W. Smith Elections Officer > To all SCC members, > > My apologies for the short deadline of this vote.? I generally do not > prefer to make such a request. > > Our Elections officer Boyd Smith would like approval to spend party > funds on radio advertising our presence at the Ponchatoula Strawberry > Festival this weekend. (to encourage people to stop by, learn more, and > sign up as members and change voter registration to LP) > > He would like to run 1-2 commercials per day for Wednesday, Thursday & > Friday. (deadlines mean maybe only Thurs. and Fri. are available) > > The cost for 60 second spots is $75. > The cost for 30 second spots is $55. > > This includes production, but Boyd will be in charge of the script. > > The spots will be run during the John Osterlind and Denny Shaffer shows > on WRNO which have both been friendly to the LP. (I think Osterlind > already announced he is "libertarian" and endorsed Gary Johnson last > fall)? Their audience is friendly to our message as well. > > On the short side, this will cost $165 for three 30 second spots, or as > much as $450 for six 60 second spots. > > It is estimated that this will increase traffic at the LP booth at the > festival by about 200 to even maybe 600 people. > > We would need to generate 7 new memberships to break even on the low > end, and 18 to break even on the high end. That would at worst be a 10% > conversion rate, and at best, only 1%.? I think either number is > achievable. > > Additionally, if we vote to do this, donors can be targeted to pledge > the extra bucks to cover the cost so there is still no net loss to the > bank balance as of today. > > All those in favor of authorizing this expenditure please vote AYE as > soon as possible.? Time lost is time missed to run the spots and reach > more people. > > Of course, our normal rules of 72 hours to vote still apply, but I urge > you to get your vote in sooner if you are able. > > Now that we have 13 members on the Board, 7 will be needed for a quorum > and a majority of those voting required for passage. > > If you intend to vote NAY, please also do that as soon as possible so we > will know quickly if this measure would fail. > > > > -- > -- In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Look it over now. > > bws > > FROM: Keith Thompson > TO: scc at lplouisiana.org > SENT: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 2:18 PM > SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - radio advertising > > Sounds good, but we may want to trim a bit out If possible. Seems to be about 45 seconds. > > Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S(tm) III, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Boyd Wayne Smith > Date: > To: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors > Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - radio advertising > > Aye. > > Boyd W. Smith > Elections Officer > >> To all SCC members, >> >> My apologies for the short deadline of this vote. I generally do not >> prefer to make such a request. >> >> Our Elections officer Boyd Smith would like approval to spend party >> funds on radio advertising our presence at the Ponchatoula Strawberry >> Festival this weekend. (to encourage people to stop by, learn more, and >> sign up as members and change voter registration to LP) >> >> He would like to run 1-2 commercials per day for Wednesday, Thursday & >> Friday. (deadlines mean maybe only Thurs. and Fri. are available) >> >> The cost for 60 second spots is $75. >> The cost for 30 second spots is $55. >> >> This includes production, but Boyd will be in charge of the script. >> >> The spots will be run during the John Osterlind and Denny Shaffer shows >> on WRNO which have both been friendly to the LP. (I think Osterlind >> already announced he is "libertarian" and endorsed Gary Johnson last >> fall) Their audience is friendly to our message as well. >> >> On the short side, this will cost $165 for three 30 second spots, or as >> much as $450 for six 60 second spots. >> >> It is estimated that this will increase traffic at the LP booth at the >> festival by about 200 to even maybe 600 people. >> >> We would need to generate 7 new memberships to break even on the low >> end, and 18 to break even on the high end. That would at worst be a 10% >> conversion rate, and at best, only 1%. I think either number is >> achievable. >> >> Additionally, if we vote to do this, donors can be targeted to pledge >> the extra bucks to cover the cost so there is still no net loss to the >> bank balance as of today. >> >> All those in favor of authorizing this expenditure please vote AYE as >> soon as possible. Time lost is time missed to run the spots and reach >> more people. >> >> Of course, our normal rules of 72 hours to vote still apply, but I urge >> you to get your vote in sooner if you are able. >> >> Now that we have 13 members on the Board, 7 will be needed for a quorum >> and a majority of those voting required for passage. >> >> If you intend to vote NAY, please also do that as soon as possible so we >> will know quickly if this measure would fail. >> >> >> >> -- >> -- In Liberty, >> >> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] -- Links: ------ [1] http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From media at lplouisiana.org Tue Apr 9 14:46:47 2013 From: media at lplouisiana.org (Keith Thompson) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2013 14:46:47 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - radio advertising In-Reply-To: <51646046.3040901@lplouisiana.org> References: <51646046.3040901@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: I vote Aye. The spot seems to fit nicely into 30 seconds, so we should be able to come in on the low end of the estimate ($165 if we run once a day Wednesday-Friday). Having an extra 200-600 people from the spot seems high to me, but that could be my small town thinking; you have a lot more population density there, so it may be accurate. On 2013-04-09 13:39, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > To all SCC members, > > My apologies for the short deadline of this vote. I generally do not prefer to make such a request. > > Our Elections officer Boyd Smith would like approval to spend party funds on radio advertising our presence at the Ponchatoula Strawberry Festival this weekend. (to encourage people to stop by, learn more, and sign up as members and change voter registration to LP) > > He would like to run 1-2 commercials per day for Wednesday, Thursday & Friday. (deadlines mean maybe only Thurs. and Fri. are available) > > The cost for 60 second spots is $75. > The cost for 30 second spots is $55. > > This includes production, but Boyd will be in charge of the script. > > The spots will be run during the John Osterlind and Denny Shaffer shows on WRNO which have both been friendly to the LP. (I think Osterlind already announced he is "libertarian" and endorsed Gary Johnson last fall) Their audience is friendly to our message as well. > > On the short side, this will cost $165 for three 30 second spots, or as much as $450 for six 60 second spots. > > It is estimated that this will increase traffic at the LP booth at the festival by about 200 to even maybe 600 people. > > We would need to generate 7 new memberships to break even on the low end, and 18 to break even on the high end. That would at worst be a 10% conversion rate, and at best, only 1%. I think either number is achievable. > > Additionally, if we vote to do this, donors can be targeted to pledge the extra bucks to cover the cost so there is still no net loss to the bank balance as of today. > > All those in favor of authorizing this expenditure please vote AYE as soon as possible. Time lost is time missed to run the spots and reach more people. > > Of course, our normal rules of 72 hours to vote still apply, but I urge you to get your vote in sooner if you are able. > > Now that we have 13 members on the Board, 7 will be needed for a quorum and a majority of those voting required for passage. > > If you intend to vote NAY, please also do that as soon as possible so we will know quickly if this measure would fail. > > -- > -- In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] Links: ------ [1] http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From membership at lplouisiana.org Tue Apr 9 14:47:09 2013 From: membership at lplouisiana.org (Membership LPL) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 14:47:09 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - radio advertising In-Reply-To: <51646046.3040901@lplouisiana.org> References: <51646046.3040901@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <003401ce355b$06501250$12f036f0$@org> Aye. (and a 2nd to the motion if needed by Mr. Robert). --------------------------- Howard Kearney Membership From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of Adrien Monteleone Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 1:39 PM To: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - radio advertising To all SCC members, My apologies for the short deadline of this vote. I generally do not prefer to make such a request. Our Elections officer Boyd Smith would like approval to spend party funds on radio advertising our presence at the Ponchatoula Strawberry Festival this weekend. (to encourage people to stop by, learn more, and sign up as members and change voter registration to LP) He would like to run 1-2 commercials per day for Wednesday, Thursday & Friday. (deadlines mean maybe only Thurs. and Fri. are available) The cost for 60 second spots is $75. The cost for 30 second spots is $55. This includes production, but Boyd will be in charge of the script. The spots will be run during the John Osterlind and Denny Shaffer shows on WRNO which have both been friendly to the LP. (I think Osterlind already announced he is "libertarian" and endorsed Gary Johnson last fall) Their audience is friendly to our message as well. On the short side, this will cost $165 for three 30 second spots, or as much as $450 for six 60 second spots. It is estimated that this will increase traffic at the LP booth at the festival by about 200 to even maybe 600 people. We would need to generate 7 new memberships to break even on the low end, and 18 to break even on the high end. That would at worst be a 10% conversion rate, and at best, only 1%. I think either number is achievable. Additionally, if we vote to do this, donors can be targeted to pledge the extra bucks to cover the cost so there is still no net loss to the bank balance as of today. All those in favor of authorizing this expenditure please vote AYE as soon as possible. Time lost is time missed to run the spots and reach more people. Of course, our normal rules of 72 hours to vote still apply, but I urge you to get your vote in sooner if you are able. Now that we have 13 members on the Board, 7 will be needed for a quorum and a majority of those voting required for passage. If you intend to vote NAY, please also do that as soon as possible so we will know quickly if this measure would fail. -- -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From secretary at lplouisiana.org Tue Apr 9 14:49:46 2013 From: secretary at lplouisiana.org (Reed Ebarb) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 14:49:46 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - radio advertising In-Reply-To: <003401ce355b$06501250$12f036f0$@org> References: <51646046.3040901@lplouisiana.org> <003401ce355b$06501250$12f036f0$@org> Message-ID: ALso an Aye > Aye. (and a 2nd to the motion if needed by Mr. Robert). > > > > > > --------------------------- > > Howard Kearney > > Membership > > > > From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On > Behalf Of Adrien Monteleone > Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 1:39 PM > To: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors > Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - radio > advertising > > > > To all SCC members, > > My apologies for the short deadline of this vote. I generally do not > prefer to make such a request. > > Our Elections officer Boyd Smith would like approval to spend party funds > on radio advertising our presence at the Ponchatoula Strawberry Festival > this weekend. (to encourage people to stop by, learn more, and sign up as > members and change voter registration to LP) > > He would like to run 1-2 commercials per day for Wednesday, Thursday & > Friday. (deadlines mean maybe only Thurs. and Fri. are available) > > The cost for 60 second spots is $75. > The cost for 30 second spots is $55. > > This includes production, but Boyd will be in charge of the script. > > The spots will be run during the John Osterlind and Denny Shaffer shows on > WRNO which have both been friendly to the LP. (I think Osterlind already > announced he is "libertarian" and endorsed Gary Johnson last fall) Their > audience is friendly to our message as well. > > On the short side, this will cost $165 for three 30 second spots, or as > much as $450 for six 60 second spots. > > It is estimated that this will increase traffic at the LP booth at the > festival by about 200 to even maybe 600 people. > > We would need to generate 7 new memberships to break even on the low end, > and 18 to break even on the high end. That would at worst be a 10% > conversion rate, and at best, only 1%. I think either number is > achievable. > > Additionally, if we vote to do this, donors can be targeted to pledge the > extra bucks to cover the cost so there is still no net loss to the bank > balance as of today. > > All those in favor of authorizing this expenditure please vote AYE as soon > as possible. Time lost is time missed to run the spots and reach more > people. > > Of course, our normal rules of 72 hours to vote still apply, but I urge > you to get your vote in sooner if you are able. > > Now that we have 13 members on the Board, 7 will be needed for a quorum > and a majority of those voting required for passage. > > If you intend to vote NAY, please also do that as soon as possible so we > will know quickly if this measure would fail. > > > > > > > -- > -- In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > If you have not already done so, please consider becoming a dues member of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana by visiting louisianalibertarian.net From chairman at lplouisiana.org Tue Apr 9 15:17:50 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2013 15:17:50 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - radio advertising In-Reply-To: <003401ce355b$06501250$12f036f0$@org> References: <51646046.3040901@lplouisiana.org> <003401ce355b$06501250$12f036f0$@org> Message-ID: <5164776E.9070200@lplouisiana.org> Sorry Howard, I never sent you new folk the rules on email votes. No seconds are needed, but thanks anyway. Vote received. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 04/09/2013 02:47 PM, Membership LPL wrote: > > Aye. (and a 2^nd to the motion if needed by Mr. Robert). > > --------------------------- > > Howard Kearney > > Membership > > *From:*scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org > [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] *On Behalf Of *Adrien Monteleone > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 09, 2013 1:39 PM > *To:* Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors > *Subject:* [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - > radio advertising > > To all SCC members, > > My apologies for the short deadline of this vote. I generally do not > prefer to make such a request. > > Our Elections officer Boyd Smith would like approval to spend party > funds on radio advertising our presence at the Ponchatoula Strawberry > Festival this weekend. (to encourage people to stop by, learn more, > and sign up as members and change voter registration to LP) > > He would like to run 1-2 commercials per day for Wednesday, Thursday & > Friday. (deadlines mean maybe only Thurs. and Fri. are available) > > The cost for 60 second spots is $75. > The cost for 30 second spots is $55. > > This includes production, but Boyd will be in charge of the script. > > The spots will be run during the John Osterlind and Denny Shaffer > shows on WRNO which have both been friendly to the LP. (I think > Osterlind already announced he is "libertarian" and endorsed Gary > Johnson last fall) Their audience is friendly to our message as well. > > On the short side, this will cost $165 for three 30 second spots, or > as much as $450 for six 60 second spots. > > It is estimated that this will increase traffic at the LP booth at the > festival by about 200 to even maybe 600 people. > > We would need to generate 7 new memberships to break even on the low > end, and 18 to break even on the high end. That would at worst be a > 10% conversion rate, and at best, only 1%. I think either number is > achievable. > > Additionally, if we vote to do this, donors can be targeted to pledge > the extra bucks to cover the cost so there is still no net loss to the > bank balance as of today. > > All those in favor of authorizing this expenditure please vote AYE as > soon as possible. Time lost is time missed to run the spots and reach > more people. > > Of course, our normal rules of 72 hours to vote still apply, but I > urge you to get your vote in sooner if you are able. > > Now that we have 13 members on the Board, 7 will be needed for a > quorum and a majority of those voting required for passage. > > If you intend to vote NAY, please also do that as soon as possible so > we will know quickly if this measure would fail. > > > > > -- > -- In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: chairman.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 297 bytes Desc: not available URL: From chairman at lplouisiana.org Tue Apr 9 15:18:09 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2013 15:18:09 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - radio advertising In-Reply-To: References: <51646046.3040901@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <51647781.3030303@lplouisiana.org> Thank you Keith, Vote Received. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 04/09/2013 02:46 PM, Keith Thompson wrote: > > I vote Aye. > > > The spot seems to fit nicely into 30 seconds, so we should be able to > come in on the low end of the estimate ($165 if we run once a day > Wednesday-Friday). Having an extra 200-600 people from the spot seems > high to me, but that could be my small town thinking; you have a lot > more population density there, so it may be accurate. > > On 2013-04-09 13:39, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > >> To all SCC members, >> >> My apologies for the short deadline of this vote. I generally do not >> prefer to make such a request. >> >> Our Elections officer Boyd Smith would like approval to spend party >> funds on radio advertising our presence at the Ponchatoula Strawberry >> Festival this weekend. (to encourage people to stop by, learn more, >> and sign up as members and change voter registration to LP) >> >> He would like to run 1-2 commercials per day for Wednesday, Thursday >> & Friday. (deadlines mean maybe only Thurs. and Fri. are available) >> >> The cost for 60 second spots is $75. >> The cost for 30 second spots is $55. >> >> This includes production, but Boyd will be in charge of the script. >> >> The spots will be run during the John Osterlind and Denny Shaffer >> shows on WRNO which have both been friendly to the LP. (I think >> Osterlind already announced he is "libertarian" and endorsed Gary >> Johnson last fall) Their audience is friendly to our message as well. >> >> On the short side, this will cost $165 for three 30 second spots, or >> as much as $450 for six 60 second spots. >> >> It is estimated that this will increase traffic at the LP booth at >> the festival by about 200 to even maybe 600 people. >> >> We would need to generate 7 new memberships to break even on the low >> end, and 18 to break even on the high end. That would at worst be a >> 10% conversion rate, and at best, only 1%. I think either number is >> achievable. >> >> Additionally, if we vote to do this, donors can be targeted to pledge >> the extra bucks to cover the cost so there is still no net loss to >> the bank balance as of today. >> >> All those in favor of authorizing this expenditure please vote AYE as >> soon as possible. Time lost is time missed to run the spots and >> reach more people. >> >> Of course, our normal rules of 72 hours to vote still apply, but I >> urge you to get your vote in sooner if you are able. >> >> Now that we have 13 members on the Board, 7 will be needed for a >> quorum and a majority of those voting required for passage. >> >> If you intend to vote NAY, please also do that as soon as possible so >> we will know quickly if this measure would fail. >> >> >> >> -- >> -- In Liberty, >> >> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: chairman.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 297 bytes Desc: not available URL: From chairman at lplouisiana.org Tue Apr 9 15:18:24 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2013 15:18:24 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - radio advertising In-Reply-To: References: <51646046.3040901@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <51647790.5060401@lplouisiana.org> Thank you Boyd, Vote Received. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 04/09/2013 01:46 PM, Boyd Wayne Smith wrote: > Aye. > > Boyd W. Smith > Elections Officer > >> To all SCC members, >> >> My apologies for the short deadline of this vote. I generally do not >> prefer to make such a request. >> >> Our Elections officer Boyd Smith would like approval to spend party >> funds on radio advertising our presence at the Ponchatoula Strawberry >> Festival this weekend. (to encourage people to stop by, learn more, and >> sign up as members and change voter registration to LP) >> >> He would like to run 1-2 commercials per day for Wednesday, Thursday & >> Friday. (deadlines mean maybe only Thurs. and Fri. are available) >> >> The cost for 60 second spots is $75. >> The cost for 30 second spots is $55. >> >> This includes production, but Boyd will be in charge of the script. >> >> The spots will be run during the John Osterlind and Denny Shaffer shows >> on WRNO which have both been friendly to the LP. (I think Osterlind >> already announced he is "libertarian" and endorsed Gary Johnson last >> fall) Their audience is friendly to our message as well. >> >> On the short side, this will cost $165 for three 30 second spots, or as >> much as $450 for six 60 second spots. >> >> It is estimated that this will increase traffic at the LP booth at the >> festival by about 200 to even maybe 600 people. >> >> We would need to generate 7 new memberships to break even on the low >> end, and 18 to break even on the high end. That would at worst be a 10% >> conversion rate, and at best, only 1%. I think either number is >> achievable. >> >> Additionally, if we vote to do this, donors can be targeted to pledge >> the extra bucks to cover the cost so there is still no net loss to the >> bank balance as of today. >> >> All those in favor of authorizing this expenditure please vote AYE as >> soon as possible. Time lost is time missed to run the spots and reach >> more people. >> >> Of course, our normal rules of 72 hours to vote still apply, but I urge >> you to get your vote in sooner if you are able. >> >> Now that we have 13 members on the Board, 7 will be needed for a quorum >> and a majority of those voting required for passage. >> >> If you intend to vote NAY, please also do that as soon as possible so we >> will know quickly if this measure would fail. >> >> >> >> -- >> -- In Liberty, >> >> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(and a 2nd to the motion if needed by Mr. Robert). >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------- >> >> Howard Kearney >> >> Membership >> >> >> >> From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On >> Behalf Of Adrien Monteleone >> Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 1:39 PM >> To: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors >> Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - radio >> advertising >> >> >> >> To all SCC members, >> >> My apologies for the short deadline of this vote. I generally do not >> prefer to make such a request. >> >> Our Elections officer Boyd Smith would like approval to spend party funds >> on radio advertising our presence at the Ponchatoula Strawberry Festival >> this weekend. (to encourage people to stop by, learn more, and sign up as >> members and change voter registration to LP) >> >> He would like to run 1-2 commercials per day for Wednesday, Thursday & >> Friday. (deadlines mean maybe only Thurs. and Fri. are available) >> >> The cost for 60 second spots is $75. >> The cost for 30 second spots is $55. >> >> This includes production, but Boyd will be in charge of the script. >> >> The spots will be run during the John Osterlind and Denny Shaffer shows on >> WRNO which have both been friendly to the LP. (I think Osterlind already >> announced he is "libertarian" and endorsed Gary Johnson last fall) Their >> audience is friendly to our message as well. >> >> On the short side, this will cost $165 for three 30 second spots, or as >> much as $450 for six 60 second spots. >> >> It is estimated that this will increase traffic at the LP booth at the >> festival by about 200 to even maybe 600 people. >> >> We would need to generate 7 new memberships to break even on the low end, >> and 18 to break even on the high end. That would at worst be a 10% >> conversion rate, and at best, only 1%. I think either number is >> achievable. >> >> Additionally, if we vote to do this, donors can be targeted to pledge the >> extra bucks to cover the cost so there is still no net loss to the bank >> balance as of today. >> >> All those in favor of authorizing this expenditure please vote AYE as soon >> as possible. Time lost is time missed to run the spots and reach more >> people. >> >> Of course, our normal rules of 72 hours to vote still apply, but I urge >> you to get your vote in sooner if you are able. >> >> Now that we have 13 members on the Board, 7 will be needed for a quorum >> and a majority of those voting required for passage. >> >> If you intend to vote NAY, please also do that as soon as possible so we >> will know quickly if this measure would fail. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> -- In Liberty, >> >> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> > > If you have not already done so, please consider becoming a dues member of > the Libertarian Party of Louisiana by visiting louisianalibertarian.net > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: chairman.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 297 bytes Desc: not available URL: From chairman at lplouisiana.org Tue Apr 9 15:20:58 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2013 15:20:58 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - radio advertising In-Reply-To: <1365534357.58710.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <51646046.3040901@lplouisiana.org> <1365534357.58710.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5164782A.2080104@lplouisiana.org> That text looks good. I couldn't help myself and tweaked it a bit. (attached) These are just suggestions. I timed it right short of 30 seconds. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 04/09/2013 02:05 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: > > The same. > Look this over and give what ever improvementsthat you can, please. > bws > *From:* Keith Thompson > *To:* scc at lplouisiana.org > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 9, 2013 1:55 PM > *Subject:* Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent > - radio advertising > > Would we get a better rate if we produced the spot? Or is it the same > cost regardless of production? > - Keith > On 2013-04-09 13:39, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >> To all SCC members, >> >> My apologies for the short deadline of this vote. I generally do not >> prefer to make such a request. >> >> Our Elections officer Boyd Smith would like approval to spend party >> funds on radio advertising our presence at the Ponchatoula Strawberry >> Festival this weekend. (to encourage people to stop by, learn more, >> and sign up as members and change voter registration to LP) >> >> He would like to run 1-2 commercials per day for Wednesday, Thursday >> & Friday. (deadlines mean maybe only Thurs. and Fri. are available) >> >> The cost for 60 second spots is $75. >> The cost for 30 second spots is $55. >> >> This includes production, but Boyd will be in charge of the script. >> >> The spots will be run during the John Osterlind and Denny Shaffer >> shows on WRNO which have both been friendly to the LP. (I think >> Osterlind already announced he is "libertarian" and endorsed Gary >> Johnson last fall) Their audience is friendly to our message as well. >> >> On the short side, this will cost $165 for three 30 second spots, or >> as much as $450 for six 60 second spots. >> >> It is estimated that this will increase traffic at the LP booth at >> the festival by about 200 to even maybe 600 people. >> >> We would need to generate 7 new memberships to break even on the low >> end, and 18 to break even on the high end. That would at worst be a >> 10% conversion rate, and at best, only 1%. I think either number is >> achievable. >> >> Additionally, if we vote to do this, donors can be targeted to pledge >> the extra bucks to cover the cost so there is still no net loss to >> the bank balance as of today. >> >> All those in favor of authorizing this expenditure please vote AYE as >> soon as possible. Time lost is time missed to run the spots and >> reach more people. >> >> Of course, our normal rules of 72 hours to vote still apply, but I >> urge you to get your vote in sooner if you are able. >> >> Now that we have 13 members on the Board, 7 will be needed for a >> quorum and a majority of those voting required for passage. >> >> If you intend to vote NAY, please also do that as soon as possible so >> we will know quickly if this measure would fail. >> >> >> >> -- >> -- In Liberty, >> >> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: chairman.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 297 bytes Desc: not available URL: From boydw.smith at yahoo.com Tue Apr 9 16:57:14 2013 From: boydw.smith at yahoo.com (Boyd Smith) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 14:57:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - radio advertising In-Reply-To: <5164782A.2080104@lplouisiana.org> References: <51646046.3040901@lplouisiana.org> <1365534357.58710.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <5164782A.2080104@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <1365544634.38375.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Like it. Much better. ? bws ________________________________ From: Adrien Monteleone To: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 3:20 PM Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - radio advertising That text looks good. I couldn't help myself and tweaked it a bit. (attached) These are just suggestions. I timed it right short of 30 seconds. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 04/09/2013 02:05 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: > >The same. > >Look this over and give what ever improvements that you can, please. > >bws >From: Keith Thompson mailto:media at lplouisiana.org >To: scc at lplouisiana.org >Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 1:55 PM >Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - radio advertising > > >Would we get a better rate if we produced the spot?? Or is it the same cost regardless of production? >- Keith >On 2013-04-09 13:39, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >To all SCC members, >> >>My apologies for the short deadline of this vote.? I generally do not prefer to make such a request. >> >>Our Elections officer Boyd Smith would like approval to spend party funds on radio advertising our presence at the Ponchatoula Strawberry Festival this weekend. (to encourage people to stop by, learn more, and sign up as members and change voter registration to LP) >> >>He would like to run 1-2 commercials per day for Wednesday, Thursday & Friday. (deadlines mean maybe only Thurs. and Fri. are available) >> >>The cost for 60 second spots is $75. >>The cost for 30 second spots is $55. >> >>This includes production, but Boyd will be in charge of the script. >> >>The spots will be run during the John Osterlind and Denny Shaffer shows on WRNO which have both been friendly to the LP. (I think Osterlind already announced he is "libertarian" and endorsed Gary Johnson last fall)? Their audience is friendly to our message as well. >> >>On the short side, this will cost $165 for three 30 second spots, or as much as $450 for six 60 second spots. >> >>It is estimated that this will increase traffic at the LP booth at the festival by about 200 to even maybe 600 people. >> >>We would need to generate 7 new memberships to break even on the low end, and 18 to break even on the high end. That would at worst be a 10% conversion rate, and at best, only 1%.? I think either number is achievable. >> >>Additionally, if we vote to do this, donors can be targeted to pledge the extra bucks to cover the cost so there is still no net loss to the bank balance as of today. >> >>All those in favor of authorizing this expenditure please vote AYE as soon as possible.? Time lost is time missed to run the spots and reach more people. >> >>Of course, our normal rules of 72 hours to vote still apply, but I urge you to get your vote in sooner if you are able. >> >>Now that we have 13 members on the Board, 7 will be needed for a quorum and a majority of those voting required for passage. >> >>If you intend to vote NAY, please also do that as soon as possible so we will know quickly if this measure would fail. >> >> >>? >> >>-- -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana >> >>_______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > >_______________________________________________ >SCC mailing list >SCC at lplouisiana.org >http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > > _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chairman at lplouisiana.org Tue Apr 9 17:11:49 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2013 17:11:49 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - radio advertising In-Reply-To: <1365544634.38375.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <51646046.3040901@lplouisiana.org> <1365534357.58710.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <5164782A.2080104@lplouisiana.org> <1365544634.38375.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <51649225.60206@lplouisiana.org> Thanks. As of right now, there are 4 votes. three more are needed for a quorum. If they are "Aye" then there is an absolute majority and it passes. I will not vote until two more "Aye" votes are in. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 04/09/2013 04:57 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: > Like it. Much better. > bws > > *From:* Adrien Monteleone > *To:* Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 9, 2013 3:20 PM > *Subject:* Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent > - radio advertising > > That text looks good. > > I couldn't help myself and tweaked it a bit. (attached) > > These are just suggestions. > > I timed it right short of 30 seconds. > > > -- In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > On 04/09/2013 02:05 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: >> >> The same. >> Look this over and give what ever improvementsthat you can, please. >> bws >> *From:* Keith Thompson mailto:media at lplouisiana.org >> *To:* scc at lplouisiana.org >> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 9, 2013 1:55 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - >> urgent - radio advertising >> >> Would we get a better rate if we produced the spot? Or is it the >> same cost regardless of production? >> - Keith >> On 2013-04-09 13:39, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >>> To all SCC members, >>> >>> My apologies for the short deadline of this vote. I generally do >>> not prefer to make such a request. >>> >>> Our Elections officer Boyd Smith would like approval to spend party >>> funds on radio advertising our presence at the Ponchatoula >>> Strawberry Festival this weekend. (to encourage people to stop by, >>> learn more, and sign up as members and change voter registration to LP) >>> >>> He would like to run 1-2 commercials per day for Wednesday, Thursday >>> & Friday. (deadlines mean maybe only Thurs. and Fri. are available) >>> >>> The cost for 60 second spots is $75. >>> The cost for 30 second spots is $55. >>> >>> This includes production, but Boyd will be in charge of the script. >>> >>> The spots will be run during the John Osterlind and Denny Shaffer >>> shows on WRNO which have both been friendly to the LP. (I think >>> Osterlind already announced he is "libertarian" and endorsed Gary >>> Johnson last fall) Their audience is friendly to our message as well. >>> >>> On the short side, this will cost $165 for three 30 second spots, or >>> as much as $450 for six 60 second spots. >>> >>> It is estimated that this will increase traffic at the LP booth at >>> the festival by about 200 to even maybe 600 people. >>> >>> We would need to generate 7 new memberships to break even on the low >>> end, and 18 to break even on the high end. That would at worst be a >>> 10% conversion rate, and at best, only 1%. I think either number is >>> achievable. >>> >>> Additionally, if we vote to do this, donors can be targeted to >>> pledge the extra bucks to cover the cost so there is still no net >>> loss to the bank balance as of today. >>> >>> All those in favor of authorizing this expenditure please vote AYE >>> as soon as possible. Time lost is time missed to run the spots and >>> reach more people. >>> >>> Of course, our normal rules of 72 hours to vote still apply, but I >>> urge you to get your vote in sooner if you are able. >>> >>> Now that we have 13 members on the Board, 7 will be needed for a >>> quorum and a majority of those voting required for passage. >>> >>> If you intend to vote NAY, please also do that as soon as possible >>> so we will know quickly if this measure would fail. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> -- In Liberty, >>> >>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SCC mailing list >>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Or do they not > vote on all items? > > Thanks, > > - Keith > > On 2013-04-09 17:11, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > >> Thanks. >> >> As of right now, there are 4 votes. three more are needed for a >> quorum. If they are "Aye" then there is an absolute majority and it >> passes. >> >> I will not vote until two more "Aye" votes are in. >> -- In Liberty, >> >> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >> On 04/09/2013 04:57 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: >>> Like it. Much better. >>> bws >>> *From:* Adrien Monteleone >>> *To:* Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 9, 2013 3:20 PM >>> *Subject:* Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - >>> urgent - radio advertising >>> >>> That text looks good. >>> >>> I couldn't help myself and tweaked it a bit. (attached) >>> >>> These are just suggestions. >>> >>> I timed it right short of 30 seconds. >>> >>> >>> -- In Liberty, >>> >>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>> On 04/09/2013 02:05 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: >>>> The same. >>>> Look this over and give what ever improvementsthat you can, please. >>>> bws >>>> *From:* Keith Thompson mailto:media at lplouisiana.org >>>> *To:* scc at lplouisiana.org >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 9, 2013 1:55 PM >>>> *Subject:* Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - >>>> urgent - radio advertising >>>> >>>> Would we get a better rate if we produced the spot? Or is it the >>>> same cost regardless of production? >>>> - Keith >>>> On 2013-04-09 13:39, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >>>> >>>> To all SCC members, >>>> >>>> My apologies for the short deadline of this vote. I generally >>>> do not prefer to make such a request. >>>> >>>> Our Elections officer Boyd Smith would like approval to spend >>>> party funds on radio advertising our presence at the >>>> Ponchatoula Strawberry Festival this weekend. (to encourage >>>> people to stop by, learn more, and sign up as members and >>>> change voter registration to LP) >>>> >>>> He would like to run 1-2 commercials per day for Wednesday, >>>> Thursday & Friday. (deadlines mean maybe only Thurs. and Fri. >>>> are available) >>>> >>>> The cost for 60 second spots is $75. >>>> The cost for 30 second spots is $55. >>>> >>>> This includes production, but Boyd will be in charge of the script. >>>> >>>> The spots will be run during the John Osterlind and Denny >>>> Shaffer shows on WRNO which have both been friendly to the LP. >>>> (I think Osterlind already announced he is "libertarian" and >>>> endorsed Gary Johnson last fall) Their audience is friendly to >>>> our message as well. >>>> >>>> On the short side, this will cost $165 for three 30 second >>>> spots, or as much as $450 for six 60 second spots. >>>> >>>> It is estimated that this will increase traffic at the LP booth >>>> at the festival by about 200 to even maybe 600 people. >>>> >>>> We would need to generate 7 new memberships to break even on >>>> the low end, and 18 to break even on the high end. That would >>>> at worst be a 10% conversion rate, and at best, only 1%. I >>>> think either number is achievable. >>>> >>>> Additionally, if we vote to do this, donors can be targeted to >>>> pledge the extra bucks to cover the cost so there is still no >>>> net loss to the bank balance as of today. >>>> >>>> All those in favor of authorizing this expenditure please vote >>>> AYE as soon as possible. Time lost is time missed to run the >>>> spots and reach more people. >>>> >>>> Of course, our normal rules of 72 hours to vote still apply, >>>> but I urge you to get your vote in sooner if you are able. >>>> >>>> Now that we have 13 members on the Board, 7 will be needed for >>>> a quorum and a majority of those voting required for passage. >>>> >>>> If you intend to vote NAY, please also do that as soon as >>>> possible so we will know quickly if this measure would fail. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> -- In Liberty, >>>> >>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SCC mailing list >>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SCC mailing list >>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SCC mailing list >>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SCC mailing list >>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Jefferson Parish. ? bws ________________________________ From: Adrien Monteleone To: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - radio advertising They vote on all items. They are on this list. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 04/09/2013 06:49 PM, Keith Thompson wrote: I'm still ignorant of the rules for this sort of thing. Is this something that the parish reps should vote on as well?? Or do they not vote on all items? >Thanks, >- Keith >On 2013-04-09 17:11, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >Thanks. >> >>As of right now, there are 4 votes.? three more are needed for a quorum.? If they are "Aye" then there is an absolute majority and it passes. >> >>I will not vote until two more "Aye" votes are in. >> >>-- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 04/09/2013 04:57 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: >>Like it. Much better. >>>? >>>bws >>> >>>From: Adrien Monteleone mailto:chairman at lplouisiana.org >>>To: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors mailto:scc at lplouisiana.org >>>Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 3:20 PM >>>Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - radio advertising >>> >>> >>>That text looks good. >>> >>>I couldn't help myself and tweaked it a bit. (attached) >>> >>>These are just suggestions. >>> >>>I timed it right short of 30 seconds. >>> >>> >>> >>>-- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 04/09/2013 02:05 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: >>>? >>>>The same. >>>> >>>>Look this over and give what ever improvements that you can, please. >>>> >>>>bws >>>>From: Keith Thompson mailto:media at lplouisiana.org >>>>To: scc at lplouisiana.org >>>>Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 1:55 PM >>>>Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - radio advertising >>>> >>>> >>>>Would we get a better rate if we produced the spot?? Or is it the same cost regardless of production? >>>>- Keith >>>>On 2013-04-09 13:39, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >>>>To all SCC members, >>>>> >>>>>My apologies for the short deadline of this vote.? I generally do not prefer to make such a request. >>>>> >>>>>Our Elections officer Boyd Smith would like approval to spend party funds on radio advertising our presence at the Ponchatoula Strawberry Festival this weekend. (to encourage people to stop by, learn more, and sign up as members and change voter registration to LP) >>>>> >>>>>He would like to run 1-2 commercials per day for Wednesday, Thursday & Friday. (deadlines mean maybe only Thurs. and Fri. are available) >>>>> >>>>>The cost for 60 second spots is $75. >>>>>The cost for 30 second spots is $55. >>>>> >>>>>This includes production, but Boyd will be in charge of the script. >>>>> >>>>>The spots will be run during the John Osterlind and Denny Shaffer shows on WRNO which have both been friendly to the LP. (I think Osterlind already announced he is "libertarian" and endorsed Gary Johnson last fall)? Their audience is friendly to our message as well. >>>>> >>>>>On the short side, this will cost $165 for three 30 second spots, or as much as $450 for six 60 second spots. >>>>> >>>>>It is estimated that this will increase traffic at the LP booth at the festival by about 200 to even maybe 600 people. >>>>> >>>>>We would need to generate 7 new memberships to break even on the low end, and 18 to break even on the high end. That would at worst be a 10% conversion rate, and at best, only 1%.? I think either number is achievable. >>>>> >>>>>Additionally, if we vote to do this, donors can be targeted to pledge the extra bucks to cover the cost so there is still no net loss to the bank balance as of today. >>>>> >>>>>All those in favor of authorizing this expenditure please vote AYE as soon as possible.? Time lost is time missed to run the spots and reach more people. >>>>> >>>>>Of course, our normal rules of 72 hours to vote still apply, but I urge you to get your vote in sooner if you are able. >>>>> >>>>>Now that we have 13 members on the Board, 7 will be needed for a quorum and a majority of those voting required for passage. >>>>> >>>>>If you intend to vote NAY, please also do that as soon as possible so we will know quickly if this measure would fail. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>? >>>>> >>>>>-- -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>> >>>>>_______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>SCC mailing list >>>>SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>SCC mailing list >>>SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> >> >>_______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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They are added now, and have access to the archives, as well as I just forwarded them this particular motion, along with officer reports and Board discussions about the judicial session. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 04/09/2013 07:07 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: > Is Daniel Hayes on the list? > Jefferson Parish. > bws > > *From:* Adrien Monteleone > *To:* Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 9, 2013 7:00 PM > *Subject:* Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent > - radio advertising > > They vote on all items. > > They are on this list. > -- In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > On 04/09/2013 06:49 PM, Keith Thompson wrote: >> I'm still ignorant of the rules for this sort of thing. Is this >> something that the parish reps should vote on as well? Or do they >> not vote on all items? >> Thanks, >> - Keith >> On 2013-04-09 17:11, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >>> Thanks. >>> >>> As of right now, there are 4 votes. three more are needed for a >>> quorum. If they are "Aye" then there is an absolute majority and it >>> passes. >>> >>> I will not vote until two more "Aye" votes are in. >>> -- In Liberty, >>> >>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>> On 04/09/2013 04:57 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: >>>> Like it. Much better. >>>> bws >>>> *From:* Adrien Monteleone mailto:chairman at lplouisiana.org >>>> *To:* Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors >>>> mailto:scc at lplouisiana.org >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 9, 2013 3:20 PM >>>> *Subject:* Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - >>>> urgent - radio advertising >>>> >>>> That text looks good. >>>> >>>> I couldn't help myself and tweaked it a bit. (attached) >>>> >>>> These are just suggestions. >>>> >>>> I timed it right short of 30 seconds. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- In Liberty, >>>> >>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>> On 04/09/2013 02:05 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: >>>>> The same. >>>>> Look this over and give what ever improvementsthat you can, please. >>>>> bws >>>>> *From:* Keith Thompson mailto:media at lplouisiana.org >>>>> *To:* scc at lplouisiana.org >>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 9, 2013 1:55 PM >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - >>>>> urgent - radio advertising >>>>> >>>>> Would we get a better rate if we produced the spot? Or is it the >>>>> same cost regardless of production? >>>>> - Keith >>>>> On 2013-04-09 13:39, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >>>>> >>>>> To all SCC members, >>>>> >>>>> My apologies for the short deadline of this vote. I generally >>>>> do not prefer to make such a request. >>>>> >>>>> Our Elections officer Boyd Smith would like approval to spend >>>>> party funds on radio advertising our presence at the >>>>> Ponchatoula Strawberry Festival this weekend. (to encourage >>>>> people to stop by, learn more, and sign up as members and >>>>> change voter registration to LP) >>>>> >>>>> He would like to run 1-2 commercials per day for Wednesday, >>>>> Thursday & Friday. (deadlines mean maybe only Thurs. and Fri. >>>>> are available) >>>>> >>>>> The cost for 60 second spots is $75. >>>>> The cost for 30 second spots is $55. >>>>> >>>>> This includes production, but Boyd will be in charge of the >>>>> script. >>>>> >>>>> The spots will be run during the John Osterlind and Denny >>>>> Shaffer shows on WRNO which have both been friendly to the LP. >>>>> (I think Osterlind already announced he is "libertarian" and >>>>> endorsed Gary Johnson last fall) Their audience is friendly >>>>> to our message as well. >>>>> >>>>> On the short side, this will cost $165 for three 30 second >>>>> spots, or as much as $450 for six 60 second spots. >>>>> >>>>> It is estimated that this will increase traffic at the LP >>>>> booth at the festival by about 200 to even maybe 600 people. >>>>> >>>>> We would need to generate 7 new memberships to break even on >>>>> the low end, and 18 to break even on the high end. That would >>>>> at worst be a 10% conversion rate, and at best, only 1%. I >>>>> think either number is achievable. >>>>> >>>>> Additionally, if we vote to do this, donors can be targeted to >>>>> pledge the extra bucks to cover the cost so there is still no >>>>> net loss to the bank balance as of today. >>>>> >>>>> All those in favor of authorizing this expenditure please vote >>>>> AYE as soon as possible. Time lost is time missed to run the >>>>> spots and reach more people. >>>>> >>>>> Of course, our normal rules of 72 hours to vote still apply, >>>>> but I urge you to get your vote in sooner if you are able. >>>>> >>>>> Now that we have 13 members on the Board, 7 will be needed for >>>>> a quorum and a majority of those voting required for passage. >>>>> >>>>> If you intend to vote NAY, please also do that as soon as >>>>> possible so we will know quickly if this measure would fail. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> -- In Liberty, >>>>> >>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SCC mailing list >>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SCC mailing list >>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SCC mailing list >>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: chairman.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 297 bytes Desc: not available URL: From sccrep at jefferson.lplouisiana.org Tue Apr 9 19:30:09 2013 From: sccrep at jefferson.lplouisiana.org (Daniel Hayes) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2013 19:30:09 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - radio advertising In-Reply-To: <1365552447.72412.YahooMailNeo@web161904.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <51646046.3040901@lplouisiana.org> <1365534357.58710.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <5164782A.2080104@lplouisiana.org> <1365544634.38375.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51649225.60206@lplouisiana.org> <5164ABB1.6030108@lplouisiana.org> <1365552447.72412.YahooMailNeo@web161904.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <541ee454ed6414bd580f7af2698c2f7d@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> I have to strongly object to this proceeding as most of the Reps from the parishes have not had a chance to even get into their Emails. We also need some time for discussion. This is hasty and ill advised. On 2013-04-09 19:07, Boyd Smith wrote: > Is Daniel Hayes on the list? > > Jefferson Parish. > > bws > > FROM: Adrien Monteleone > TO: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors > SENT: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 7:00 PM > SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent > - radio advertising > > They vote on all items. > > They are on this list. > > -- In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > On 04/09/2013 06:49 PM, Keith Thompson wrote: > >> I'm still ignorant of the rules for this sort of thing. Is this >> something that the parish reps should vote on as well? Or do they not >> vote on all items? >> Thanks, >> - Keith >> On 2013-04-09 17:11, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> As of right now, there are 4 votes. three more are needed for a >>> quorum. If they are "Aye" then there is an absolute majority and it >>> passes. >>> >>> I will not vote until two more "Aye" votes are in. >>> >>> -- In Liberty, >>> >>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>> On 04/09/2013 04:57 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: >>> >>>> Like it. Much better. >>>> >>>> bws >>>> >>>> FROM: Adrien Monteleone mailto:chairman at lplouisiana.org >>>> TO: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors >>>> mailto:scc at lplouisiana.org >>>> SENT: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 3:20 PM >>>> SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - >>>> urgent - radio advertising >>>> >>>> That text looks good. >>>> >>>> I couldn't help myself and tweaked it a bit. (attached) >>>> >>>> These are just suggestions. >>>> >>>> I timed it right short of 30 seconds. >>>> >>>> -- In Liberty, >>>> >>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>> On 04/09/2013 02:05 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: >>>> >>>>> The same. >>>>> >>>>> Look this over and give what ever improvements that you can, >>>>> please. >>>>> >>>>> bws >>>>> >>>>> FROM: Keith Thompson mailto:media at lplouisiana.org >>>>> TO: scc at lplouisiana.org >>>>> SENT: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 1:55 PM >>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - >>>>> urgent - radio advertising >>>>> >>>>> Would we get a better rate if we produced the spot? Or is it the >>>>> same cost regardless of production? >>>>> - Keith >>>>> On 2013-04-09 13:39, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> To all SCC members, >>>>>> >>>>>> My apologies for the short deadline of this vote. I generally do >>>>>> not prefer to make such a request. >>>>>> >>>>>> Our Elections officer Boyd Smith would like approval to spend >>>>>> party funds on radio advertising our presence at the Ponchatoula >>>>>> Strawberry Festival this weekend. (to encourage people to stop by, >>>>>> learn more, and sign up as members and change voter registration >>>>>> to LP) >>>>>> >>>>>> He would like to run 1-2 commercials per day for Wednesday, >>>>>> Thursday & Friday. (deadlines mean maybe only Thurs. and Fri. are >>>>>> available) >>>>>> >>>>>> The cost for 60 second spots is $75. >>>>>> The cost for 30 second spots is $55. >>>>>> >>>>>> This includes production, but Boyd will be in charge of the >>>>>> script. >>>>>> >>>>>> The spots will be run during the John Osterlind and Denny >>>>>> Shaffer shows on WRNO which have both been friendly to the LP. (I >>>>>> think Osterlind already announced he is "libertarian" and endorsed >>>>>> Gary Johnson last fall) Their audience is friendly to our message >>>>>> as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> On the short side, this will cost $165 for three 30 second >>>>>> spots, or as much as $450 for six 60 second spots. >>>>>> >>>>>> It is estimated that this will increase traffic at the LP booth >>>>>> at the festival by about 200 to even maybe 600 people. >>>>>> >>>>>> We would need to generate 7 new memberships to break even on the >>>>>> low end, and 18 to break even on the high end. That would at worst >>>>>> be a 10% conversion rate, and at best, only 1%. I think either >>>>>> number is achievable. >>>>>> >>>>>> Additionally, if we vote to do this, donors can be targeted to >>>>>> pledge the extra bucks to cover the cost so there is still no net >>>>>> loss to the bank balance as of today. >>>>>> >>>>>> All those in favor of authorizing this expenditure please vote >>>>>> AYE as soon as possible. Time lost is time missed to run the spots >>>>>> and reach more people. >>>>>> >>>>>> Of course, our normal rules of 72 hours to vote still apply, but >>>>>> I urge you to get your vote in sooner if you are able. >>>>>> >>>>>> Now that we have 13 members on the Board, 7 will be needed for a >>>>>> quorum and a majority of those voting required for passage. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you intend to vote NAY, please also do that as soon as >>>>>> possible so we will know quickly if this measure would fail. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> -- In Liberty, >>>>>> >>>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SCC mailing list >>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SCC mailing list >>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SCC mailing list >>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] > > > > Links: > ------ > [1] http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org From chairman at lplouisiana.org Tue Apr 9 20:00:58 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2013 20:00:58 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - radio advertising In-Reply-To: <541ee454ed6414bd580f7af2698c2f7d@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> References: <51646046.3040901@lplouisiana.org> <1365534357.58710.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <5164782A.2080104@lplouisiana.org> <1365544634.38375.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51649225.60206@lplouisiana.org> <5164ABB1.6030108@lplouisiana.org> <1365552447.72412.YahooMailNeo@web161904.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <541ee454ed6414bd580f7af2698c2f7d@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <5164B9CA.9020203@lplouisiana.org> Hasty? Certainly. There is a small window to take action. This happens from time to time. Ill advised? To advertise the LPL presence at an event to drive membership and voter registration, how so? Feel free to offer any objections to the motion you may have. Ask any questions if you need more information. Robert's does not have rules on email proceedings, other than to note that it can possibly be used in some circumstances in the place of mail ballots to conduct business outside of a regular meeting. It does stress not to use it for deliberations. I'm not asking for deliberation but you are free to engage in it if you wish. I'm asking for a vote. I've consulted some time ago with various state chairs and decided back then to adopt their general standing rules for how to conduct such business. If you have a motion you want submitted for an email vote, it must be submitted to the chair. The chair will then post the motion and call for the vote. If at the expiration of 72 hours, a quorum is not reached, the motions expires. If a quorum is reached within that period, and the requisite vote is in favor, the motion passes. If not, it fails once enough people have voted "nay." Because our only stated rules are for postal mail ballots with a 15 day window to cast a vote, I continue to record and archive votes for that period, though usually, after a day or two, the issue is moot or has passed with an absolute majority, or failed accordingly. As I noted in the original message, I apologize for the short window. Your's is only a few hours shorter, but that would extend the total voting time to 72 hours from the time it was sent to you. You can wait to study the issue more and discuss it more, and either not cast a vote, abstain, vote nay, whatever. Either way, if a quorum is not reached, or enough people have not voted in favor to pass, the motion will die. No one is forcing you to hurry up and make a decision. I'm only asking you make it as soon as possible. You are always free not to do anything at all. The motion may pass or fail with or without your vote. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 04/09/2013 07:30 PM, Daniel Hayes wrote: > I have to strongly object to this proceeding as most of the Reps from > the parishes have not had a chance to even get into their Emails. We > also need some time for discussion. This is hasty and ill advised. > > > > On 2013-04-09 19:07, Boyd Smith wrote: >> Is Daniel Hayes on the list? >> >> Jefferson Parish. >> >> bws >> >> FROM: Adrien Monteleone >> TO: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors >> SENT: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 7:00 PM >> SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent >> - radio advertising >> >> They vote on all items. >> >> They are on this list. >> >> -- In Liberty, >> >> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >> On 04/09/2013 06:49 PM, Keith Thompson wrote: >> >>> I'm still ignorant of the rules for this sort of thing. Is this >>> something that the parish reps should vote on as well? Or do they >>> not vote on all items? >>> Thanks, >>> - Keith >>> On 2013-04-09 17:11, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> As of right now, there are 4 votes. three more are needed for a >>>> quorum. If they are "Aye" then there is an absolute majority and it >>>> passes. >>>> >>>> I will not vote until two more "Aye" votes are in. >>>> >>>> -- In Liberty, >>>> >>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>> On 04/09/2013 04:57 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: >>>> >>>>> Like it. Much better. >>>>> >>>>> bws >>>>> >>>>> FROM: Adrien Monteleone mailto:chairman at lplouisiana.org >>>>> TO: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors >>>>> mailto:scc at lplouisiana.org >>>>> SENT: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 3:20 PM >>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - >>>>> urgent - radio advertising >>>>> >>>>> That text looks good. >>>>> >>>>> I couldn't help myself and tweaked it a bit. (attached) >>>>> >>>>> These are just suggestions. >>>>> >>>>> I timed it right short of 30 seconds. >>>>> >>>>> -- In Liberty, >>>>> >>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>> On 04/09/2013 02:05 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The same. >>>>>> >>>>>> Look this over and give what ever improvements that you can, please. >>>>>> >>>>>> bws >>>>>> >>>>>> FROM: Keith Thompson mailto:media at lplouisiana.org >>>>>> TO: scc at lplouisiana.org >>>>>> SENT: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 1:55 PM >>>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - >>>>>> urgent - radio advertising >>>>>> >>>>>> Would we get a better rate if we produced the spot? Or is it the >>>>>> same cost regardless of production? >>>>>> - Keith >>>>>> On 2013-04-09 13:39, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> To all SCC members, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My apologies for the short deadline of this vote. I generally do >>>>>>> not prefer to make such a request. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Our Elections officer Boyd Smith would like approval to spend >>>>>>> party funds on radio advertising our presence at the Ponchatoula >>>>>>> Strawberry Festival this weekend. (to encourage people to stop >>>>>>> by, learn more, and sign up as members and change voter >>>>>>> registration to LP) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> He would like to run 1-2 commercials per day for Wednesday, >>>>>>> Thursday & Friday. (deadlines mean maybe only Thurs. and Fri. >>>>>>> are available) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The cost for 60 second spots is $75. >>>>>>> The cost for 30 second spots is $55. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This includes production, but Boyd will be in charge of the script. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The spots will be run during the John Osterlind and Denny >>>>>>> Shaffer shows on WRNO which have both been friendly to the LP. >>>>>>> (I think Osterlind already announced he is "libertarian" and >>>>>>> endorsed Gary Johnson last fall) Their audience is friendly to >>>>>>> our message as well. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On the short side, this will cost $165 for three 30 second >>>>>>> spots, or as much as $450 for six 60 second spots. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It is estimated that this will increase traffic at the LP booth >>>>>>> at the festival by about 200 to even maybe 600 people. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We would need to generate 7 new memberships to break even on the >>>>>>> low end, and 18 to break even on the high end. That would at >>>>>>> worst be a 10% conversion rate, and at best, only 1%. I think >>>>>>> either number is achievable. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Additionally, if we vote to do this, donors can be targeted to >>>>>>> pledge the extra bucks to cover the cost so there is still no >>>>>>> net loss to the bank balance as of today. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All those in favor of authorizing this expenditure please vote >>>>>>> AYE as soon as possible. Time lost is time missed to run the >>>>>>> spots and reach more people. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Of course, our normal rules of 72 hours to vote still apply, but >>>>>>> I urge you to get your vote in sooner if you are able. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now that we have 13 members on the Board, 7 will be needed for a >>>>>>> quorum and a majority of those voting required for passage. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you intend to vote NAY, please also do that as soon as >>>>>>> possible so we will know quickly if this measure would fail. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> -- In Liberty, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SCC mailing list >>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >> >> >> >> Links: >> ------ >> [1] http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: chairman.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 297 bytes Desc: not available URL: From sccrep at jefferson.lplouisiana.org Tue Apr 9 20:06:05 2013 From: sccrep at jefferson.lplouisiana.org (Daniel Hayes) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2013 20:06:05 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - radio advertising In-Reply-To: <541ee454ed6414bd580f7af2698c2f7d@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> References: <51646046.3040901@lplouisiana.org> <1365534357.58710.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <5164782A.2080104@lplouisiana.org> <1365544634.38375.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51649225.60206@lplouisiana.org> <5164ABB1.6030108@lplouisiana.org> <1365552447.72412.YahooMailNeo@web161904.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <541ee454ed6414bd580f7af2698c2f7d@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: On this matter..this is like advertising that we will be going door to door. The Strawberry Festival itself is the advertisement. It attracts 500,000 people over the 3 days that it runs..its the largest festival in the state. All we will be doing is spending our money to advertise for the Strawberry Festival. Nobody is going the head to the Festival from New Orleans where the show airs just to go to the Libertarian Party booth. Money would have been better spent on professional literature with our contact information to pass out at the Festival. David Mounts was prepared to buy some of this out of his own pocket to the tune of about $700 but I think this suggestion has him so frustrated that he has decided to not do so. On 2013-04-09 19:30, Daniel Hayes wrote: > I have to strongly object to this proceeding as most of the Reps from > the parishes have not had a chance to even get into their Emails. We > also need some time for discussion. This is hasty and ill advised. > > > > On 2013-04-09 19:07, Boyd Smith wrote: >> Is Daniel Hayes on the list? >> >> Jefferson Parish. >> >> bws >> >> FROM: Adrien Monteleone >> TO: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors >> SENT: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 7:00 PM >> SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - >> urgent >> - radio advertising >> >> They vote on all items. >> >> They are on this list. >> >> -- In Liberty, >> >> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >> On 04/09/2013 06:49 PM, Keith Thompson wrote: >> >>> I'm still ignorant of the rules for this sort of thing. Is this >>> something that the parish reps should vote on as well? Or do they not >>> vote on all items? >>> Thanks, >>> - Keith >>> On 2013-04-09 17:11, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> As of right now, there are 4 votes. three more are needed for a >>>> quorum. If they are "Aye" then there is an absolute majority and it >>>> passes. >>>> >>>> I will not vote until two more "Aye" votes are in. >>>> >>>> -- In Liberty, >>>> >>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>> On 04/09/2013 04:57 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: >>>> >>>>> Like it. Much better. >>>>> >>>>> bws >>>>> >>>>> FROM: Adrien Monteleone mailto:chairman at lplouisiana.org >>>>> TO: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors >>>>> mailto:scc at lplouisiana.org >>>>> SENT: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 3:20 PM >>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - >>>>> urgent - radio advertising >>>>> >>>>> That text looks good. >>>>> >>>>> I couldn't help myself and tweaked it a bit. (attached) >>>>> >>>>> These are just suggestions. >>>>> >>>>> I timed it right short of 30 seconds. >>>>> >>>>> -- In Liberty, >>>>> >>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>> On 04/09/2013 02:05 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The same. >>>>>> >>>>>> Look this over and give what ever improvements that you can, >>>>>> please. >>>>>> >>>>>> bws >>>>>> >>>>>> FROM: Keith Thompson mailto:media at lplouisiana.org >>>>>> TO: scc at lplouisiana.org >>>>>> SENT: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 1:55 PM >>>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - >>>>>> urgent - radio advertising >>>>>> >>>>>> Would we get a better rate if we produced the spot? Or is it the >>>>>> same cost regardless of production? >>>>>> - Keith >>>>>> On 2013-04-09 13:39, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> To all SCC members, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My apologies for the short deadline of this vote. I generally >>>>>>> do not prefer to make such a request. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Our Elections officer Boyd Smith would like approval to spend >>>>>>> party funds on radio advertising our presence at the Ponchatoula >>>>>>> Strawberry Festival this weekend. (to encourage people to stop >>>>>>> by, learn more, and sign up as members and change voter >>>>>>> registration to LP) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> He would like to run 1-2 commercials per day for Wednesday, >>>>>>> Thursday & Friday. (deadlines mean maybe only Thurs. and Fri. are >>>>>>> available) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The cost for 60 second spots is $75. >>>>>>> The cost for 30 second spots is $55. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This includes production, but Boyd will be in charge of the >>>>>>> script. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The spots will be run during the John Osterlind and Denny >>>>>>> Shaffer shows on WRNO which have both been friendly to the LP. (I >>>>>>> think Osterlind already announced he is "libertarian" and >>>>>>> endorsed Gary Johnson last fall) Their audience is friendly to >>>>>>> our message as well. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On the short side, this will cost $165 for three 30 second >>>>>>> spots, or as much as $450 for six 60 second spots. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It is estimated that this will increase traffic at the LP booth >>>>>>> at the festival by about 200 to even maybe 600 people. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We would need to generate 7 new memberships to break even on >>>>>>> the low end, and 18 to break even on the high end. That would at >>>>>>> worst be a 10% conversion rate, and at best, only 1%. I think >>>>>>> either number is achievable. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Additionally, if we vote to do this, donors can be targeted to >>>>>>> pledge the extra bucks to cover the cost so there is still no net >>>>>>> loss to the bank balance as of today. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All those in favor of authorizing this expenditure please vote >>>>>>> AYE as soon as possible. Time lost is time missed to run the >>>>>>> spots and reach more people. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Of course, our normal rules of 72 hours to vote still apply, >>>>>>> but I urge you to get your vote in sooner if you are able. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now that we have 13 members on the Board, 7 will be needed for >>>>>>> a quorum and a majority of those voting required for passage. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you intend to vote NAY, please also do that as soon as >>>>>>> possible so we will know quickly if this measure would fail. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> -- In Liberty, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SCC mailing list >>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >> >> >> >> Links: >> ------ >> [1] http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org From chairman at lplouisiana.org Tue Apr 9 20:22:45 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2013 20:22:45 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - radio advertising In-Reply-To: References: <51646046.3040901@lplouisiana.org> <1365534357.58710.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <5164782A.2080104@lplouisiana.org> <1365544634.38375.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51649225.60206@lplouisiana.org> <5164ABB1.6030108@lplouisiana.org> <1365552447.72412.YahooMailNeo@web161904.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <541ee454ed6414bd580f7af2698c2f7d@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <5164BEE5.7090608@lplouisiana.org> What does this motion have to do with whatever he had intended to do on his own? The two are not mutually exclusive by any means. Certainly, David is more than welcome as anyone is, to make a motion to pay for that printed material. And if this motion to advertise passes, that has zero bearing on his own private initiative. When working with a group of people, different people will have different ideas about how to approach a subject. Asking questions is an integral part of the process of making decisions. Voicing concerns is always welcome. The tone of the immediate reply is in another category entirely. Avoid a "Negative Nancy" attitude about ideas that you didn't come up with and you'll find support for when you want to do something. David, being a Parish Rep, is on this list. He is free to comment about his own opinions and concerns. Please stick to yours and refrain from speaking for anyone else. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 04/09/2013 08:06 PM, Daniel Hayes wrote: > On this matter..this is like advertising that we will be going door to > door. The Strawberry Festival itself is the advertisement. It > attracts 500,000 people over the 3 days that it runs..its the largest > festival in the state. All we will be doing is spending our money to > advertise for the Strawberry Festival. Nobody is going the head to the > Festival from New Orleans where the show airs just to go to the > Libertarian Party booth. Money would have been better spent on > professional literature with our contact information to pass out at > the Festival. David Mounts was prepared to buy some of this out of his > own pocket to the tune of about $700 but I think this suggestion has > him so frustrated that he has decided to not do so. > > On 2013-04-09 19:30, Daniel Hayes wrote: >> I have to strongly object to this proceeding as most of the Reps from >> the parishes have not had a chance to even get into their Emails. We >> also need some time for discussion. This is hasty and ill advised. >> >> >> >> On 2013-04-09 19:07, Boyd Smith wrote: >>> Is Daniel Hayes on the list? >>> >>> Jefferson Parish. >>> >>> bws >>> >>> FROM: Adrien Monteleone >>> TO: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors >>> SENT: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 7:00 PM >>> SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent >>> - radio advertising >>> >>> They vote on all items. >>> >>> They are on this list. >>> >>> -- In Liberty, >>> >>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>> On 04/09/2013 06:49 PM, Keith Thompson wrote: >>> >>>> I'm still ignorant of the rules for this sort of thing. Is this >>>> something that the parish reps should vote on as well? Or do they >>>> not vote on all items? >>>> Thanks, >>>> - Keith >>>> On 2013-04-09 17:11, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> As of right now, there are 4 votes. three more are needed for a >>>>> quorum. If they are "Aye" then there is an absolute majority and >>>>> it passes. >>>>> >>>>> I will not vote until two more "Aye" votes are in. >>>>> >>>>> -- In Liberty, >>>>> >>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>> On 04/09/2013 04:57 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Like it. Much better. >>>>>> >>>>>> bws >>>>>> >>>>>> FROM: Adrien Monteleone mailto:chairman at lplouisiana.org >>>>>> TO: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors >>>>>> mailto:scc at lplouisiana.org >>>>>> SENT: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 3:20 PM >>>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - >>>>>> urgent - radio advertising >>>>>> >>>>>> That text looks good. >>>>>> >>>>>> I couldn't help myself and tweaked it a bit. (attached) >>>>>> >>>>>> These are just suggestions. >>>>>> >>>>>> I timed it right short of 30 seconds. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- In Liberty, >>>>>> >>>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>>> On 04/09/2013 02:05 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The same. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Look this over and give what ever improvements that you can, >>>>>>> please. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> bws >>>>>>> >>>>>>> FROM: Keith Thompson mailto:media at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>> TO: scc at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>> SENT: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 1:55 PM >>>>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - >>>>>>> urgent - radio advertising >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Would we get a better rate if we produced the spot? Or is it the >>>>>>> same cost regardless of production? >>>>>>> - Keith >>>>>>> On 2013-04-09 13:39, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To all SCC members, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My apologies for the short deadline of this vote. I generally >>>>>>>> do not prefer to make such a request. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Our Elections officer Boyd Smith would like approval to spend >>>>>>>> party funds on radio advertising our presence at the >>>>>>>> Ponchatoula Strawberry Festival this weekend. (to encourage >>>>>>>> people to stop by, learn more, and sign up as members and >>>>>>>> change voter registration to LP) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> He would like to run 1-2 commercials per day for Wednesday, >>>>>>>> Thursday & Friday. (deadlines mean maybe only Thurs. and Fri. >>>>>>>> are available) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The cost for 60 second spots is $75. >>>>>>>> The cost for 30 second spots is $55. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This includes production, but Boyd will be in charge of the >>>>>>>> script. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The spots will be run during the John Osterlind and Denny >>>>>>>> Shaffer shows on WRNO which have both been friendly to the LP. >>>>>>>> (I think Osterlind already announced he is "libertarian" and >>>>>>>> endorsed Gary Johnson last fall) Their audience is friendly to >>>>>>>> our message as well. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On the short side, this will cost $165 for three 30 second >>>>>>>> spots, or as much as $450 for six 60 second spots. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It is estimated that this will increase traffic at the LP booth >>>>>>>> at the festival by about 200 to even maybe 600 people. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We would need to generate 7 new memberships to break even on >>>>>>>> the low end, and 18 to break even on the high end. That would >>>>>>>> at worst be a 10% conversion rate, and at best, only 1%. I >>>>>>>> think either number is achievable. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Additionally, if we vote to do this, donors can be targeted to >>>>>>>> pledge the extra bucks to cover the cost so there is still no >>>>>>>> net loss to the bank balance as of today. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> All those in favor of authorizing this expenditure please vote >>>>>>>> AYE as soon as possible. Time lost is time missed to run the >>>>>>>> spots and reach more people. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Of course, our normal rules of 72 hours to vote still apply, >>>>>>>> but I urge you to get your vote in sooner if you are able. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now that we have 13 members on the Board, 7 will be needed for >>>>>>>> a quorum and a majority of those voting required for passage. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you intend to vote NAY, please also do that as soon as >>>>>>>> possible so we will know quickly if this measure would fail. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> -- In Liberty, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SCC mailing list >>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>> >>> >>> >>> Links: >>> ------ >>> [1] http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SCC mailing list >>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I will withdraw my motion. ? bws ________________________________ From: Daniel Hayes To: scc at lplouisiana.org Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 8:06 PM Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - radio advertising On this matter..this is like advertising that we will be going door to door.? The Strawberry Festival itself is the advertisement. It attracts 500,000 people over the 3 days that it runs..its the largest festival in the state.? All we will be doing is spending our money to advertise for the Strawberry Festival. Nobody is going the head to the Festival from New Orleans where the show airs just to go to the Libertarian Party booth.? Money would have been better spent on professional literature with our contact information to pass out at the Festival. David Mounts was prepared to buy some of this out of his own pocket to the tune of about $700 but I think this suggestion has him so frustrated that he has decided to not do so. On 2013-04-09 19:30, Daniel Hayes wrote: > I have to strongly object to this proceeding as most of the Reps from > the parishes have not had a chance to even get into their Emails. We > also need some time for discussion. This is hasty and ill advised. > > > > On 2013-04-09 19:07, Boyd Smith wrote: >> Is Daniel Hayes on the list? >> >> Jefferson Parish. >> >> bws >> >>? FROM: Adrien Monteleone >>? TO: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors >>? SENT: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 7:00 PM >>? SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent >> - radio advertising >> >> They vote on all items. >> >>? They are on this list. >> >> -- In Liberty, >> >> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>? On 04/09/2013 06:49 PM, Keith Thompson wrote: >> >>> I'm still ignorant of the rules for this sort of thing. Is this something that the parish reps should vote on as well? Or do they not vote on all items? >>> Thanks, >>> - Keith >>> On 2013-04-09 17:11, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> As of right now, there are 4 votes. three more are needed for a quorum. If they are "Aye" then there is an absolute majority and it passes. >>>> >>>> I will not vote until two more "Aye" votes are in. >>>> >>>> -- In Liberty, >>>> >>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>> On 04/09/2013 04:57 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: >>>> >>>>> Like it. Much better. >>>>> >>>>> bws >>>>> >>>>> FROM: Adrien Monteleone mailto:chairman at lplouisiana.org >>>>> TO: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors mailto:scc at lplouisiana.org >>>>> SENT: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 3:20 PM >>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - radio advertising >>>>> >>>>> That text looks good. >>>>> >>>>> I couldn't help myself and tweaked it a bit. (attached) >>>>> >>>>> These are just suggestions. >>>>> >>>>> I timed it right short of 30 seconds. >>>>> >>>>> -- In Liberty, >>>>> >>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>> On 04/09/2013 02:05 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The same. >>>>>> >>>>>> Look this over and give what ever improvements that you can, please. >>>>>> >>>>>> bws >>>>>> >>>>>> FROM: Keith Thompson mailto:media at lplouisiana.org >>>>>> TO: scc at lplouisiana.org >>>>>> SENT: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 1:55 PM >>>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - radio advertising >>>>>> >>>>>> Would we get a better rate if we produced the spot? Or is it the same cost regardless of production? >>>>>> - Keith >>>>>> On 2013-04-09 13:39, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> To all SCC members, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My apologies for the short deadline of this vote. I generally do not prefer to make such a request. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Our Elections officer Boyd Smith would like approval to spend party funds on radio advertising our presence at the Ponchatoula Strawberry Festival this weekend. (to encourage people to stop by, learn more, and sign up as members and change voter registration to LP) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> He would like to run 1-2 commercials per day for Wednesday, Thursday & Friday. (deadlines mean maybe only Thurs. and Fri. are available) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The cost for 60 second spots is $75. >>>>>>> The cost for 30 second spots is $55. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This includes production, but Boyd will be in charge of the script. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The spots will be run during the John Osterlind and Denny Shaffer shows on WRNO which have both been friendly to the LP. (I think Osterlind already announced he is "libertarian" and endorsed Gary Johnson last fall) Their audience is friendly to our message as well. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On the short side, this will cost $165 for three 30 second spots, or as much as $450 for six 60 second spots. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It is estimated that this will increase traffic at the LP booth at the festival by about 200 to even maybe 600 people. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We would need to generate 7 new memberships to break even on the low end, and 18 to break even on the high end. That would at worst be a 10% conversion rate, and at best, only 1%. I think either number is achievable. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Additionally, if we vote to do this, donors can be targeted to pledge the extra bucks to cover the cost so there is still no net loss to the bank balance as of today. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All those in favor of authorizing this expenditure please vote AYE as soon as possible. Time lost is time missed to run the spots and reach more people. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Of course, our normal rules of 72 hours to vote still apply, but I urge you to get your vote in sooner if you are able. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now that we have 13 members on the Board, 7 will be needed for a quorum and a majority of those voting required for passage. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you intend to vote NAY, please also do that as soon as possible so we will know quickly if this measure would fail. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> -- In Liberty, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SCC mailing list >>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >> >> >> >> Links: >> ------ >> [1] http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chairman at lplouisiana.org Tue Apr 9 21:20:43 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2013 21:20:43 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - radio advertising In-Reply-To: <1365558922.95590.YahooMailNeo@web161903.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <51646046.3040901@lplouisiana.org> <1365534357.58710.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <5164782A.2080104@lplouisiana.org> <1365544634.38375.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51649225.60206@lplouisiana.org> <5164ABB1.6030108@lplouisiana.org> <1365552447.72412.YahooMailNeo@web161904.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <541ee454ed6414bd580f7af2698c2f7d@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> <1365558922.95590.YahooMailNeo@web161903.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5164CC7B.1030709@lplouisiana.org> Crowd estimates for 2010 were around 300,000 total. I didn't see it as redundant. With a large festival, it's quite likely that you won't get 100% of the traffic from the entire festival in your area. What I saw these ads as doing, was not to get people to GO in the first place, but to look for the booth since there's a good chance they'll already be there. People with booths at festivals advertise all the time to make sure they get their desired traffic. Especially if you're a newcomer, people don't know to look for you. As well, the amount being considered for spending was small. But, that's your call to withdraw when working via email. (such is not generally allowed in a physical meeting) -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 04/09/2013 08:55 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: > I was not aware of how big this was. If that many people are going to > be there, advertising may actually be redundant. > I will withdraw my motion. > bws > > *From:* Daniel Hayes > *To:* scc at lplouisiana.org > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 9, 2013 8:06 PM > *Subject:* Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent > - radio advertising > > On this matter..this is like advertising that we will be going door to > door. The Strawberry Festival itself is the advertisement. It > attracts 500,000 people over the 3 days that it runs..its the largest > festival in the state. All we will be doing is spending our money to > advertise for the Strawberry Festival. Nobody is going the head to the > Festival from New Orleans where the show airs just to go to the > Libertarian Party booth. Money would have been better spent on > professional literature with our contact information to pass out at > the Festival. David Mounts was prepared to buy some of this out of his > own pocket to the tune of about $700 but I think this suggestion has > him so frustrated that he has decided to not do so. > > On 2013-04-09 19:30, Daniel Hayes wrote: > > I have to strongly object to this proceeding as most of the Reps from > > the parishes have not had a chance to even get into their Emails. We > > also need some time for discussion. This is hasty and ill advised. > > > > > > > > On 2013-04-09 19:07, Boyd Smith wrote: > >> Is Daniel Hayes on the list? > >> > >> Jefferson Parish. > >> > >> bws > >> > >> FROM: Adrien Monteleone > > >> TO: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors > > >> SENT: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 7:00 PM > >> SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent > >> - radio advertising > >> > >> They vote on all items. > >> > >> They are on this list. > >> > >> -- In Liberty, > >> > >> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > >> Libertarian Party of Louisiana > >> On 04/09/2013 06:49 PM, Keith Thompson wrote: > >> > >>> I'm still ignorant of the rules for this sort of thing. Is this > something that the parish reps should vote on as well? Or do they not > vote on all items? > >>> Thanks, > >>> - Keith > >>> On 2013-04-09 17:11, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > >>> > >>>> Thanks. > >>>> > >>>> As of right now, there are 4 votes. three more are needed for a > quorum. If they are "Aye" then there is an absolute majority and it > passes. > >>>> > >>>> I will not vote until two more "Aye" votes are in. > >>>> > >>>> -- In Liberty, > >>>> > >>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > >>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana > >>>> On 04/09/2013 04:57 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Like it. Much better. > >>>>> > >>>>> bws > >>>>> > >>>>> FROM: Adrien Monteleone mailto:chairman at lplouisiana.org > > >>>>> TO: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors > mailto:scc at lplouisiana.org > >>>>> SENT: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 3:20 PM > >>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - > urgent - radio advertising > >>>>> > >>>>> That text looks good. > >>>>> > >>>>> I couldn't help myself and tweaked it a bit. (attached) > >>>>> > >>>>> These are just suggestions. > >>>>> > >>>>> I timed it right short of 30 seconds. > >>>>> > >>>>> -- In Liberty, > >>>>> > >>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > >>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana > >>>>> On 04/09/2013 02:05 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> The same. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Look this over and give what ever improvements that you can, > please. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> bws > >>>>>> > >>>>>> FROM: Keith Thompson mailto:media at lplouisiana.org > > >>>>>> TO: scc at lplouisiana.org > >>>>>> SENT: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 1:55 PM > >>>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - > urgent - radio advertising > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Would we get a better rate if we produced the spot? Or is it > the same cost regardless of production? > >>>>>> - Keith > >>>>>> On 2013-04-09 13:39, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> To all SCC members, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> My apologies for the short deadline of this vote. I generally > do not prefer to make such a request. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Our Elections officer Boyd Smith would like approval to spend > party funds on radio advertising our presence at the Ponchatoula > Strawberry Festival this weekend. (to encourage people to stop by, > learn more, and sign up as members and change voter registration to LP) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> He would like to run 1-2 commercials per day for Wednesday, > Thursday & Friday. (deadlines mean maybe only Thurs. and Fri. are > available) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The cost for 60 second spots is $75. > >>>>>>> The cost for 30 second spots is $55. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> This includes production, but Boyd will be in charge of the > script. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The spots will be run during the John Osterlind and Denny > Shaffer shows on WRNO which have both been friendly to the LP. (I > think Osterlind already announced he is "libertarian" and endorsed > Gary Johnson last fall) Their audience is friendly to our message as well. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On the short side, this will cost $165 for three 30 second > spots, or as much as $450 for six 60 second spots. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> It is estimated that this will increase traffic at the LP > booth at the festival by about 200 to even maybe 600 people. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> We would need to generate 7 new memberships to break even on > the low end, and 18 to break even on the high end. That would at worst > be a 10% conversion rate, and at best, only 1%. I think either number > is achievable. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Additionally, if we vote to do this, donors can be targeted to > pledge the extra bucks to cover the cost so there is still no net loss > to the bank balance as of today. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> All those in favor of authorizing this expenditure please vote > AYE as soon as possible. Time lost is time missed to run the spots and > reach more people. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Of course, our normal rules of 72 hours to vote still apply, > but I urge you to get your vote in sooner if you are able. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Now that we have 13 members on the Board, 7 will be needed for > a quorum and a majority of those voting required for passage. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> If you intend to vote NAY, please also do that as soon as > possible so we will know quickly if this measure would fail. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> -- In Liberty, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > >>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> SCC mailing list > >>>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org > >>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> SCC mailing list > >>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org > >>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> SCC mailing list > >>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org > >>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> SCC mailing list > >>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org > >>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> SCC mailing list > >>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org > >>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> SCC mailing list > >> SCC at lplouisiana.org > >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] > >> > >> > >> > >> Links: > >> ------ > >> [1] http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> SCC mailing list > >> SCC at lplouisiana.org > >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Next time you want to make things up, don't send it to me. I believe Adrien already said something to this effect but I do not think it neccessary for you to speak for people already on the mailing list. If you believe we should spend on something else, PLEASE make a motion. Otherwise, stop complaining. I don't have time or patience for it. > On this matter..this is like advertising that we will be going door to > door. The Strawberry Festival itself is the advertisement. It attracts > 500,000 people over the 3 days that it runs..its the largest festival in > the state. All we will be doing is spending our money to advertise for > the Strawberry Festival. Nobody is going the head to the Festival from > New Orleans where the show airs just to go to the Libertarian Party > booth. Money would have been better spent on professional literature > with our contact information to pass out at the Festival. David Mounts > was prepared to buy some of this out of his own pocket to the tune of > about $700 but I think this suggestion has him so frustrated that he has > decided to not do so. > > On 2013-04-09 19:30, Daniel Hayes wrote: >> I have to strongly object to this proceeding as most of the Reps from >> the parishes have not had a chance to even get into their Emails. We >> also need some time for discussion. This is hasty and ill advised. >> >> >> >> On 2013-04-09 19:07, Boyd Smith wrote: >>> Is Daniel Hayes on the list? >>> >>> Jefferson Parish. >>> >>> bws >>> >>> FROM: Adrien Monteleone >>> TO: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors >>> SENT: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 7:00 PM >>> SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - >>> urgent >>> - radio advertising >>> >>> They vote on all items. >>> >>> They are on this list. >>> >>> -- In Liberty, >>> >>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>> On 04/09/2013 06:49 PM, Keith Thompson wrote: >>> >>>> I'm still ignorant of the rules for this sort of thing. Is this >>>> something that the parish reps should vote on as well? Or do they not >>>> vote on all items? >>>> Thanks, >>>> - Keith >>>> On 2013-04-09 17:11, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> As of right now, there are 4 votes. three more are needed for a >>>>> quorum. If they are "Aye" then there is an absolute majority and it >>>>> passes. >>>>> >>>>> I will not vote until two more "Aye" votes are in. >>>>> >>>>> -- In Liberty, >>>>> >>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>> On 04/09/2013 04:57 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Like it. Much better. >>>>>> >>>>>> bws >>>>>> >>>>>> FROM: Adrien Monteleone mailto:chairman at lplouisiana.org >>>>>> TO: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors >>>>>> mailto:scc at lplouisiana.org >>>>>> SENT: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 3:20 PM >>>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - >>>>>> urgent - radio advertising >>>>>> >>>>>> That text looks good. >>>>>> >>>>>> I couldn't help myself and tweaked it a bit. (attached) >>>>>> >>>>>> These are just suggestions. >>>>>> >>>>>> I timed it right short of 30 seconds. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- In Liberty, >>>>>> >>>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>>> On 04/09/2013 02:05 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The same. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Look this over and give what ever improvements that you can, >>>>>>> please. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> bws >>>>>>> >>>>>>> FROM: Keith Thompson mailto:media at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>> TO: scc at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>> SENT: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 1:55 PM >>>>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - >>>>>>> urgent - radio advertising >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Would we get a better rate if we produced the spot? Or is it the >>>>>>> same cost regardless of production? >>>>>>> - Keith >>>>>>> On 2013-04-09 13:39, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To all SCC members, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My apologies for the short deadline of this vote. I generally >>>>>>>> do not prefer to make such a request. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Our Elections officer Boyd Smith would like approval to spend >>>>>>>> party funds on radio advertising our presence at the Ponchatoula >>>>>>>> Strawberry Festival this weekend. (to encourage people to stop >>>>>>>> by, learn more, and sign up as members and change voter >>>>>>>> registration to LP) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> He would like to run 1-2 commercials per day for Wednesday, >>>>>>>> Thursday & Friday. (deadlines mean maybe only Thurs. and Fri. are >>>>>>>> available) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The cost for 60 second spots is $75. >>>>>>>> The cost for 30 second spots is $55. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This includes production, but Boyd will be in charge of the >>>>>>>> script. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The spots will be run during the John Osterlind and Denny >>>>>>>> Shaffer shows on WRNO which have both been friendly to the LP. (I >>>>>>>> think Osterlind already announced he is "libertarian" and >>>>>>>> endorsed Gary Johnson last fall) Their audience is friendly to >>>>>>>> our message as well. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On the short side, this will cost $165 for three 30 second >>>>>>>> spots, or as much as $450 for six 60 second spots. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It is estimated that this will increase traffic at the LP booth >>>>>>>> at the festival by about 200 to even maybe 600 people. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We would need to generate 7 new memberships to break even on >>>>>>>> the low end, and 18 to break even on the high end. That would at >>>>>>>> worst be a 10% conversion rate, and at best, only 1%. I think >>>>>>>> either number is achievable. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Additionally, if we vote to do this, donors can be targeted to >>>>>>>> pledge the extra bucks to cover the cost so there is still no net >>>>>>>> loss to the bank balance as of today. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> All those in favor of authorizing this expenditure please vote >>>>>>>> AYE as soon as possible. Time lost is time missed to run the >>>>>>>> spots and reach more people. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Of course, our normal rules of 72 hours to vote still apply, >>>>>>>> but I urge you to get your vote in sooner if you are able. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now that we have 13 members on the Board, 7 will be needed for >>>>>>>> a quorum and a majority of those voting required for passage. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you intend to vote NAY, please also do that as soon as >>>>>>>> possible so we will know quickly if this measure would fail. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> -- In Liberty, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SCC mailing list >>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>> >>> >>> >>> Links: >>> ------ >>> [1] http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SCC mailing list >>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > If you have not already done so, please consider becoming a dues member of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana by visiting louisianalibertarian.net From Paladin at LPLouisiana.org Tue Apr 9 21:55:43 2013 From: Paladin at LPLouisiana.org (T Lee Horne III) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 22:55:43 -0400 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - radio advertising In-Reply-To: <5164CC7B.1030709@lplouisiana.org> References: <51646046.3040901@lplouisiana.org> <1365534357.58710.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <5164782A.2080104@lplouisiana.org> <1365544634.38375.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51649225.60206@lplouisiana.org> <5164ABB1.6030108@lplouisiana.org> <1365552447.72412.YahooMailNeo@web161904.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <541ee454ed6414bd580f7af2698c2f7d@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> <1365558922.95590.YahooMailNeo@web161903.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <5164CC7B.1030709@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <011101ce3596$e5b82460$b1286d20$@org> If the motion is still active, I vote yes. My reason is simple, publicity is important in and of itself. Anytime we can find the funds to put the party name out for the public to see and associate it with some aspect of the philosophy of the party we gain recognition and momentum. T Lee Horne, III Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 tleehorneiii at gmail.com 318-542-4445 google voice tleehorneiii skype http://bit.ly/12zAQMS From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of Adrien Monteleone Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 10:21 PM To: scc at lplouisiana.org Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - radio advertising Crowd estimates for 2010 were around 300,000 total. I didn't see it as redundant. With a large festival, it's quite likely that you won't get 100% of the traffic from the entire festival in your area. What I saw these ads as doing, was not to get people to GO in the first place, but to look for the booth since there's a good chance they'll already be there. People with booths at festivals advertise all the time to make sure they get their desired traffic. Especially if you're a newcomer, people don't know to look for you. As well, the amount being considered for spending was small. But, that's your call to withdraw when working via email. (such is not generally allowed in a physical meeting) -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 04/09/2013 08:55 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: I was not aware of how big this was. If that many people are going to be there, advertising may actually be redundant. I will withdraw my motion. bws From: Daniel Hayes To: scc at lplouisiana.org Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 8:06 PM Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - radio advertising On this matter..this is like advertising that we will be going door to door. The Strawberry Festival itself is the advertisement. It attracts 500,000 people over the 3 days that it runs..its the largest festival in the state. All we will be doing is spending our money to advertise for the Strawberry Festival. Nobody is going the head to the Festival from New Orleans where the show airs just to go to the Libertarian Party booth. Money would have been better spent on professional literature with our contact information to pass out at the Festival. David Mounts was prepared to buy some of this out of his own pocket to the tune of about $700 but I think this suggestion has him so frustrated that he has decided to not do so. On 2013-04-09 19:30, Daniel Hayes wrote: > I have to strongly object to this proceeding as most of the Reps from > the parishes have not had a chance to even get into their Emails. We > also need some time for discussion. This is hasty and ill advised. > > > > On 2013-04-09 19:07, Boyd Smith wrote: >> Is Daniel Hayes on the list? >> >> Jefferson Parish. >> >> bws >> >> FROM: Adrien Monteleone >> TO: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors >> SENT: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 7:00 PM >> SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent >> - radio advertising >> >> They vote on all items. >> >> They are on this list. >> >> -- In Liberty, >> >> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >> On 04/09/2013 06:49 PM, Keith Thompson wrote: >> >>> I'm still ignorant of the rules for this sort of thing. Is this something that the parish reps should vote on as well? Or do they not vote on all items? >>> Thanks, >>> - Keith >>> On 2013-04-09 17:11, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> As of right now, there are 4 votes. three more are needed for a quorum. If they are "Aye" then there is an absolute majority and it passes. >>>> >>>> I will not vote until two more "Aye" votes are in. >>>> >>>> -- In Liberty, >>>> >>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>> On 04/09/2013 04:57 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: >>>> >>>>> Like it. Much better. >>>>> >>>>> bws >>>>> >>>>> FROM: Adrien Monteleone mailto:chairman at lplouisiana.org >>>>> TO: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors mailto:scc at lplouisiana.org >>>>> SENT: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 3:20 PM >>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - radio advertising >>>>> >>>>> That text looks good. >>>>> >>>>> I couldn't help myself and tweaked it a bit. (attached) >>>>> >>>>> These are just suggestions. >>>>> >>>>> I timed it right short of 30 seconds. >>>>> >>>>> -- In Liberty, >>>>> >>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>> On 04/09/2013 02:05 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The same. >>>>>> >>>>>> Look this over and give what ever improvements that you can, please. >>>>>> >>>>>> bws >>>>>> >>>>>> FROM: Keith Thompson mailto:media at lplouisiana.org >>>>>> TO: scc at lplouisiana.org >>>>>> SENT: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 1:55 PM >>>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - radio advertising >>>>>> >>>>>> Would we get a better rate if we produced the spot? Or is it the same cost regardless of production? >>>>>> - Keith >>>>>> On 2013-04-09 13:39, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> To all SCC members, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My apologies for the short deadline of this vote. I generally do not prefer to make such a request. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Our Elections officer Boyd Smith would like approval to spend party funds on radio advertising our presence at the Ponchatoula Strawberry Festival this weekend. (to encourage people to stop by, learn more, and sign up as members and change voter registration to LP) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> He would like to run 1-2 commercials per day for Wednesday, Thursday & Friday. (deadlines mean maybe only Thurs. and Fri. are available) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The cost for 60 second spots is $75. >>>>>>> The cost for 30 second spots is $55. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This includes production, but Boyd will be in charge of the script. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The spots will be run during the John Osterlind and Denny Shaffer shows on WRNO which have both been friendly to the LP. (I think Osterlind already announced he is "libertarian" and endorsed Gary Johnson last fall) Their audience is friendly to our message as well. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On the short side, this will cost $165 for three 30 second spots, or as much as $450 for six 60 second spots. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It is estimated that this will increase traffic at the LP booth at the festival by about 200 to even maybe 600 people. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We would need to generate 7 new memberships to break even on the low end, and 18 to break even on the high end. That would at worst be a 10% conversion rate, and at best, only 1%. I think either number is achievable. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Additionally, if we vote to do this, donors can be targeted to pledge the extra bucks to cover the cost so there is still no net loss to the bank balance as of today. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All those in favor of authorizing this expenditure please vote AYE as soon as possible. Time lost is time missed to run the spots and reach more people. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Of course, our normal rules of 72 hours to vote still apply, but I urge you to get your vote in sooner if you are able. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now that we have 13 members on the Board, 7 will be needed for a quorum and a majority of those voting required for passage. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you intend to vote NAY, please also do that as soon as possible so we will know quickly if this measure would fail. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> -- In Liberty, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SCC mailing list >>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >> >> >> >> Links: >> ------ >> [1] http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org This message has been processed by Firetrust Benign. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sccrep at jefferson.lplouisiana.org Tue Apr 9 23:00:49 2013 From: sccrep at jefferson.lplouisiana.org (Daniel Hayes) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2013 23:00:49 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - radio advertising In-Reply-To: References: <51646046.3040901@lplouisiana.org> <1365534357.58710.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <5164782A.2080104@lplouisiana.org> <1365544634.38375.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51649225.60206@lplouisiana.org> <5164ABB1.6030108@lplouisiana.org> <1365552447.72412.YahooMailNeo@web161904.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <541ee454ed6414bd580f7af2698c2f7d@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: Reed, You essentially just called me a liar. It is not productive or appreciated. The numbers I were quoting came from my recollection of a conversation I had with chuck Saucier the organizer of the event: "March 13 Chuck..are you going to make it to the State Central committee meeting in NOLA April 13th at noon? 9:12am Still hopin to be working for the Libertarian party at the Strawberry Festival that weekend...Its an event that draws 500,000+ people" For the purpose of my point did it really matter? I can copy and paste the Email and send it to anyone that cares to see it on facebook with my pictures and chuck's sitting right in the mail. I also just got off the phone with Chuck and when I told him that we were voting on whether or not to do radio advertisement for the Festival..he interrupted me and said he didn't think that would be a good investment. Anybody that cares to call him and check this is welcome. I also told him with a laugh that he got me "called out" over the numbers he gave to me on March 13th..and he said the numbers vary on where you look and from year to year and that the estimates do range upwards of 500,000 people. I suggest in the future actually picking up the phone and talking to the people organizing an event before making plans relative to that event to get their input and perspective. The fact that the Chairman had not made sure that the Reps have been notified and are up to speed on this email system before springing this hasty vote is problematic and I believe Mr Salgado has yet to receive any Email at all because the party has the wrong address. There is a reason why Robert's frowns upon email voting..and the problems arising in this vote are why. Additionally, the suggestion that I support someone else's project just so that I get my own project in the future supported is rather troubling. Isn't that the sort of behavior that we are supposed to be working against? Also, to say that I am complaining...I thought I was engaged in discussion. Maybe if things had been done properly relative to notifying the new Reps there wouldn't have been anything to object to on that regard. I frankly am taken aback at the VERY unprofessional attitude I have been greeted with here. It's such a shame that one of the only true professionals I have encountered in the party, Wes Benedict, is resigning this Friday. His presence will be truly missed. On 2013-04-09 21:44, Reed Ebarb wrote: > Mr. Hayes, I am an adamant fact checker and your 500,000 is a VERY > inflated number. Do not feed false facts to this mailing list or I > will > call you out on it EVERY SINGLE TIME. Next time you want to make > things > up, don't send it to me. I believe Adrien already said something to > this > effect but I do not think it neccessary for you to speak for people > already on the mailing list. > > If you believe we should spend on something else, PLEASE make a > motion. > Otherwise, stop complaining. I don't have time or patience for it. > >> On this matter..this is like advertising that we will be going door >> to >> door. The Strawberry Festival itself is the advertisement. It >> attracts >> 500,000 people over the 3 days that it runs..its the largest >> festival in >> the state. All we will be doing is spending our money to advertise >> for >> the Strawberry Festival. Nobody is going the head to the Festival >> from >> New Orleans where the show airs just to go to the Libertarian Party >> booth. Money would have been better spent on professional >> literature >> with our contact information to pass out at the Festival. David >> Mounts >> was prepared to buy some of this out of his own pocket to the tune >> of >> about $700 but I think this suggestion has him so frustrated that he >> has >> decided to not do so. >> >> On 2013-04-09 19:30, Daniel Hayes wrote: >>> I have to strongly object to this proceeding as most of the Reps >>> from >>> the parishes have not had a chance to even get into their Emails. >>> We >>> also need some time for discussion. This is hasty and ill advised. >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2013-04-09 19:07, Boyd Smith wrote: >>>> Is Daniel Hayes on the list? >>>> >>>> Jefferson Parish. >>>> >>>> bws >>>> >>>> FROM: Adrien Monteleone >>>> TO: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors >>>> SENT: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 7:00 PM >>>> SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - >>>> urgent >>>> - radio advertising >>>> >>>> They vote on all items. >>>> >>>> They are on this list. >>>> >>>> -- In Liberty, >>>> >>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>> On 04/09/2013 06:49 PM, Keith Thompson wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm still ignorant of the rules for this sort of thing. Is this >>>>> something that the parish reps should vote on as well? Or do they >>>>> not >>>>> vote on all items? >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> - Keith >>>>> On 2013-04-09 17:11, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> As of right now, there are 4 votes. three more are needed for a >>>>>> quorum. If they are "Aye" then there is an absolute majority and >>>>>> it >>>>>> passes. >>>>>> >>>>>> I will not vote until two more "Aye" votes are in. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- In Liberty, >>>>>> >>>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>>> On 04/09/2013 04:57 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Like it. Much better. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> bws >>>>>>> >>>>>>> FROM: Adrien Monteleone mailto:chairman at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>> TO: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors >>>>>>> mailto:scc at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>> SENT: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 3:20 PM >>>>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - >>>>>>> urgent - radio advertising >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That text looks good. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I couldn't help myself and tweaked it a bit. (attached) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> These are just suggestions. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I timed it right short of 30 seconds. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- In Liberty, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>>>> On 04/09/2013 02:05 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The same. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Look this over and give what ever improvements that you can, >>>>>>>> please. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> bws >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> FROM: Keith Thompson mailto:media at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>> TO: scc at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>> SENT: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 1:55 PM >>>>>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - >>>>>>>> urgent - radio advertising >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Would we get a better rate if we produced the spot? Or is it >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> same cost regardless of production? >>>>>>>> - Keith >>>>>>>> On 2013-04-09 13:39, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To all SCC members, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My apologies for the short deadline of this vote. I generally >>>>>>>>> do not prefer to make such a request. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Our Elections officer Boyd Smith would like approval to spend >>>>>>>>> party funds on radio advertising our presence at the >>>>>>>>> Ponchatoula >>>>>>>>> Strawberry Festival this weekend. (to encourage people to >>>>>>>>> stop >>>>>>>>> by, learn more, and sign up as members and change voter >>>>>>>>> registration to LP) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> He would like to run 1-2 commercials per day for Wednesday, >>>>>>>>> Thursday & Friday. (deadlines mean maybe only Thurs. and Fri. >>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>> available) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The cost for 60 second spots is $75. >>>>>>>>> The cost for 30 second spots is $55. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This includes production, but Boyd will be in charge of the >>>>>>>>> script. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The spots will be run during the John Osterlind and Denny >>>>>>>>> Shaffer shows on WRNO which have both been friendly to the >>>>>>>>> LP. (I >>>>>>>>> think Osterlind already announced he is "libertarian" and >>>>>>>>> endorsed Gary Johnson last fall) Their audience is friendly >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> our message as well. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On the short side, this will cost $165 for three 30 second >>>>>>>>> spots, or as much as $450 for six 60 second spots. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It is estimated that this will increase traffic at the LP >>>>>>>>> booth >>>>>>>>> at the festival by about 200 to even maybe 600 people. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We would need to generate 7 new memberships to break even on >>>>>>>>> the low end, and 18 to break even on the high end. That would >>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>> worst be a 10% conversion rate, and at best, only 1%. I think >>>>>>>>> either number is achievable. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Additionally, if we vote to do this, donors can be targeted >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> pledge the extra bucks to cover the cost so there is still no >>>>>>>>> net >>>>>>>>> loss to the bank balance as of today. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> All those in favor of authorizing this expenditure please >>>>>>>>> vote >>>>>>>>> AYE as soon as possible. Time lost is time missed to run the >>>>>>>>> spots and reach more people. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Of course, our normal rules of 72 hours to vote still apply, >>>>>>>>> but I urge you to get your vote in sooner if you are able. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Now that we have 13 members on the Board, 7 will be needed >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> a quorum and a majority of those voting required for passage. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you intend to vote NAY, please also do that as soon as >>>>>>>>> possible so we will know quickly if this measure would fail. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> -- In Liberty, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SCC mailing list >>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Links: >>>> ------ >>>> [1] http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SCC mailing list >>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> > > > If you have not already done so, please consider becoming a dues > member of > the Libertarian Party of Louisiana by visiting > louisianalibertarian.net > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org From sccrep at lafourche.lplouisiana.org Tue Apr 9 23:14:38 2013 From: sccrep at lafourche.lplouisiana.org (sccrep at lafourche.lplouisiana.org) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2013 23:14:38 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - radio advertising In-Reply-To: <5164ADA9.3090708@lplouisiana.org> References: <5164ADA9.3090708@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <848454cca407bf1b25ba1d96b8cb1e08@lafourche.lplouisiana.org> Please count my vote as a "NAY" on this matter. Thank you. Jason Bourgeois Lafourche Parish Rep On 2013-04-09 19:09, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > To the Parish Representatives, > > Sorry guys.?? I had forgotten to add you to our Board's mailing list > after your election.? You should have received a subscription > announcement already about this.? Keep it handy to refer to in case > you need to know how to do something with the list. > > Please read this motion below and cast a vote as soon as you can so > we can get moving on this. > > Please change the "reply" address when you vote to: > scc at lplouisiana.org so your vote will end up in the archives.? > Thanks. > > ------------------------- > > My apologies for the short deadline of this vote.? I generally do > not prefer to make such a request. > > Our Elections officer Boyd Smith would like approval to spend party > funds on radio advertising our presence at the Ponchatoula Strawberry > Festival this weekend. (to encourage people to stop by, learn more, > and sign up as members and change voter registration to LP) > > He would like to run 1-2 commercials per day for Wednesday, Thursday > & Friday. (deadlines mean maybe only Thurs. and Fri. are available) > > The cost for 60 second spots is $75. > The cost for 30 second spots is $55. > > This includes production, but Boyd will be in charge of the script. > > The spots will be run during the John Osterlind and Denny Shaffer > shows on WRNO which have both been friendly to the LP. (I think > Osterlind already announced he is "libertarian" and endorsed Gary > Johnson last fall)? Their audience is friendly to our message as > well. > > On the short side, this will cost $165 for three 30 second spots, or > as much as $450 for six 60 second spots. > > It is estimated that this will increase traffic at the LP booth at > the festival by about 200 to even maybe 600 people. > > We would need to generate 7 new memberships to break even on the low > end, and 18 to break even on the high end. That would at worst be a > 10% conversion rate, and at best, only 1%.? I think either number is > achievable. > > Additionally, if we vote to do this, donors can be targeted to > pledge the extra bucks to cover the cost so there is still no net > loss > to the bank balance as of today. > > All those in favor of authorizing this expenditure please vote AYE > as soon as possible.? Time lost is time missed to run the spots and > reach more people. > > Of course, our normal rules of 72 hours to vote still apply, but I > urge you to get your vote in sooner if you are able. > > Now that we have 13 members on the Board, 7 will be needed for a > quorum and a majority of those voting required for passage. > > If you intend to vote NAY, please also do that as soon as possible > so we will know quickly if this measure would fail. > > ? > > -- > -- In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana From treasurer at sainttammany.lplouisiana.org Tue Apr 9 23:16:20 2013 From: treasurer at sainttammany.lplouisiana.org (treasurer at sainttammany.lplouisiana.org) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2013 23:16:20 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - radio advertising Message-ID: <9200cd42db78fa23f38fba8d5e26ad2c@sainttammany.lplouisiana.org> St. Tammany votes "Nay" due to a current lack of understanding CY13 P&A budget priorities. From treasurer at lplouisiana.org Tue Apr 9 23:36:22 2013 From: treasurer at lplouisiana.org (treasurer at lplouisiana.org) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 23:36:22 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - radio advertising In-Reply-To: References: <51646046.3040901@lplouisiana.org> <1365534357.58710.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <5164782A.2080104@lplouisiana.org> <1365544634.38375.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51649225.60206@lplouisiana.org> <5164ABB1.6030108@lplouisiana.org> <1365552447.72412.YahooMailNeo@web161904.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <541ee454ed6414bd580f7af2698c2f7d@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: Mr. Hayes, I strongly suggest you take a back seat over the next month and learn how things are done before attempting to come in and change everything. When I joined the party in early 2012, we had less than 10 people at the convention, no candidates, and no income. A year later, look where we are. Many things would not be possible today without the relentless, determined work of a few, unpaid, party officers. Before you change things, I highly suggest you take a back seat to how things are run and ask why things are a certain way before you attempt to change something you don't understand. You are ignorant to how things came to be this way and why certain decisions were made. Asking and learning tend to help one make an informed decision. Your ignorance will cause the Party much trouble over the next few months as you try to change everything to suit you. Learn and ask. The Party didn't become this strong and large without a few intelligent beings running it. > Reed, > You essentially just called me a liar. It is not productive or > appreciated. The numbers I were quoting came from my recollection of a > conversation I had with chuck Saucier the organizer of the event: > > "March 13 > Chuck..are you going to make it to the State Central committee meeting > in NOLA April 13th at noon? > 9:12am > Still hopin to be working for the Libertarian party at the Strawberry > Festival that weekend...Its an event that draws 500,000+ people" > > For the purpose of my point did it really matter? I can copy and paste > the Email and send it to anyone that cares to see it on facebook with my > pictures and chuck's sitting right in the mail. I also just got off the > phone with Chuck and when I told him that we were voting on whether or > not to do radio advertisement for the Festival..he interrupted me and > said he didn't think that would be a good investment. Anybody that cares > to call him and check this is welcome. I also told him with a laugh that > he got me "called out" over the numbers he gave to me on March 13th..and > he said the numbers vary on where you look and from year to year and > that the estimates do range upwards of 500,000 people. I suggest in the > future actually picking up the phone and talking to the people > organizing an event before making plans relative to that event to get > their input and perspective. > > > The fact that the Chairman had not made sure that the Reps have been > notified and are up to speed on this email system before springing this > hasty vote is problematic and I believe Mr Salgado has yet to receive > any Email at all because the party has the wrong address. There is a > reason why Robert's frowns upon email voting..and the problems arising > in this vote are why. > > Additionally, the suggestion that I support someone else's project just > so that I get my own project in the future supported is rather > troubling. Isn't that the sort of behavior that we are supposed to be > working against? Also, to say that I am complaining...I thought I was > engaged in discussion. Maybe if things had been done properly relative > to notifying the new Reps there wouldn't have been anything to object to > on that regard. I frankly am taken aback at the VERY unprofessional > attitude I have been greeted with here. It's such a shame that one of > the only true professionals I have encountered in the party, Wes > Benedict, is resigning this Friday. His presence will be truly missed. > > > > > > On 2013-04-09 21:44, Reed Ebarb wrote: >> Mr. Hayes, I am an adamant fact checker and your 500,000 is a VERY >> inflated number. Do not feed false facts to this mailing list or I >> will >> call you out on it EVERY SINGLE TIME. Next time you want to make >> things >> up, don't send it to me. I believe Adrien already said something to >> this >> effect but I do not think it neccessary for you to speak for people >> already on the mailing list. >> >> If you believe we should spend on something else, PLEASE make a >> motion. >> Otherwise, stop complaining. I don't have time or patience for it. >> >>> On this matter..this is like advertising that we will be going door >>> to >>> door. The Strawberry Festival itself is the advertisement. It >>> attracts >>> 500,000 people over the 3 days that it runs..its the largest >>> festival in >>> the state. All we will be doing is spending our money to advertise >>> for >>> the Strawberry Festival. Nobody is going the head to the Festival >>> from >>> New Orleans where the show airs just to go to the Libertarian Party >>> booth. Money would have been better spent on professional >>> literature >>> with our contact information to pass out at the Festival. David >>> Mounts >>> was prepared to buy some of this out of his own pocket to the tune >>> of >>> about $700 but I think this suggestion has him so frustrated that he >>> has >>> decided to not do so. >>> >>> On 2013-04-09 19:30, Daniel Hayes wrote: >>>> I have to strongly object to this proceeding as most of the Reps >>>> from >>>> the parishes have not had a chance to even get into their Emails. >>>> We >>>> also need some time for discussion. This is hasty and ill advised. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2013-04-09 19:07, Boyd Smith wrote: >>>>> Is Daniel Hayes on the list? >>>>> >>>>> Jefferson Parish. >>>>> >>>>> bws >>>>> >>>>> FROM: Adrien Monteleone >>>>> TO: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors >>>>> SENT: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 7:00 PM >>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - >>>>> urgent >>>>> - radio advertising >>>>> >>>>> They vote on all items. >>>>> >>>>> They are on this list. >>>>> >>>>> -- In Liberty, >>>>> >>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>> On 04/09/2013 06:49 PM, Keith Thompson wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I'm still ignorant of the rules for this sort of thing. Is this >>>>>> something that the parish reps should vote on as well? Or do they >>>>>> not >>>>>> vote on all items? >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> - Keith >>>>>> On 2013-04-09 17:11, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As of right now, there are 4 votes. three more are needed for a >>>>>>> quorum. If they are "Aye" then there is an absolute majority and >>>>>>> it >>>>>>> passes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I will not vote until two more "Aye" votes are in. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- In Liberty, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>>>> On 04/09/2013 04:57 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Like it. Much better. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> bws >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> FROM: Adrien Monteleone mailto:chairman at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>> TO: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors >>>>>>>> mailto:scc at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>> SENT: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 3:20 PM >>>>>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - >>>>>>>> urgent - radio advertising >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That text looks good. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I couldn't help myself and tweaked it a bit. (attached) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> These are just suggestions. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I timed it right short of 30 seconds. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- In Liberty, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>>>>> On 04/09/2013 02:05 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The same. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Look this over and give what ever improvements that you can, >>>>>>>>> please. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> bws >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> FROM: Keith Thompson mailto:media at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>> TO: scc at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>> SENT: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 1:55 PM >>>>>>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - >>>>>>>>> urgent - radio advertising >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Would we get a better rate if we produced the spot? Or is it >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> same cost regardless of production? >>>>>>>>> - Keith >>>>>>>>> On 2013-04-09 13:39, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To all SCC members, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> My apologies for the short deadline of this vote. I generally >>>>>>>>>> do not prefer to make such a request. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Our Elections officer Boyd Smith would like approval to spend >>>>>>>>>> party funds on radio advertising our presence at the >>>>>>>>>> Ponchatoula >>>>>>>>>> Strawberry Festival this weekend. (to encourage people to >>>>>>>>>> stop >>>>>>>>>> by, learn more, and sign up as members and change voter >>>>>>>>>> registration to LP) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> He would like to run 1-2 commercials per day for Wednesday, >>>>>>>>>> Thursday & Friday. (deadlines mean maybe only Thurs. and Fri. >>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>> available) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The cost for 60 second spots is $75. >>>>>>>>>> The cost for 30 second spots is $55. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This includes production, but Boyd will be in charge of the >>>>>>>>>> script. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The spots will be run during the John Osterlind and Denny >>>>>>>>>> Shaffer shows on WRNO which have both been friendly to the >>>>>>>>>> LP. (I >>>>>>>>>> think Osterlind already announced he is "libertarian" and >>>>>>>>>> endorsed Gary Johnson last fall) Their audience is friendly >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> our message as well. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On the short side, this will cost $165 for three 30 second >>>>>>>>>> spots, or as much as $450 for six 60 second spots. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It is estimated that this will increase traffic at the LP >>>>>>>>>> booth >>>>>>>>>> at the festival by about 200 to even maybe 600 people. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> We would need to generate 7 new memberships to break even on >>>>>>>>>> the low end, and 18 to break even on the high end. That would >>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>> worst be a 10% conversion rate, and at best, only 1%. I think >>>>>>>>>> either number is achievable. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Additionally, if we vote to do this, donors can be targeted >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> pledge the extra bucks to cover the cost so there is still no >>>>>>>>>> net >>>>>>>>>> loss to the bank balance as of today. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> All those in favor of authorizing this expenditure please >>>>>>>>>> vote >>>>>>>>>> AYE as soon as possible. Time lost is time missed to run the >>>>>>>>>> spots and reach more people. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Of course, our normal rules of 72 hours to vote still apply, >>>>>>>>>> but I urge you to get your vote in sooner if you are able. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Now that we have 13 members on the Board, 7 will be needed >>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>> a quorum and a majority of those voting required for passage. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If you intend to vote NAY, please also do that as soon as >>>>>>>>>> possible so we will know quickly if this measure would fail. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> -- In Liberty, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Links: >>>>> ------ >>>>> [1] http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SCC mailing list >>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>> >> >> >> If you have not already done so, please consider becoming a dues >> member of >> the Libertarian Party of Louisiana by visiting >> louisianalibertarian.net >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > From sccrep at jefferson.lplouisiana.org Wed Apr 10 00:12:19 2013 From: sccrep at jefferson.lplouisiana.org (Daniel Hayes) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 00:12:19 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - radio advertising In-Reply-To: References: <51646046.3040901@lplouisiana.org> <1365534357.58710.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <5164782A.2080104@lplouisiana.org> <1365544634.38375.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51649225.60206@lplouisiana.org> <5164ABB1.6030108@lplouisiana.org> <1365552447.72412.YahooMailNeo@web161904.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <541ee454ed6414bd580f7af2698c2f7d@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <79189d2115b4905f02b9419858158a2b@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> Reed, I was elected to represent my parish, not to sit back and watch how "the good ol' boys" do things. I do ask questions and I get snarky flippant responses from you and others. The lack of transparency and professionalism in a Libertarian organization is appalling. Your last 2 emails to me have directly insulted me. You have implied I was a liar and you have called me ignorant. I am well aware of the proper use of the word but the fact that you used it to reference me twice in the same post is rather troubling. Is this the normal nature of the correspondence from officers to new SCC members and among each other? You tell me to quit complaining when I was objecting to improper notification of SCC members as they were not included in the mail relative to this and I was voicing my concerns over expending hard fought over funding. Your efforts in the past did help us to get here but to imply that I am any less able to understand the matters at hand is frankly troubling. Also, to imply that this party is strong and large at this point? 7600 members?No elected officials but a few small seats that nobody ran for? Maybe the Rithmetic classes down in south Louisiana aren't up to par with those in the north..but I just don't see that assertion...Also, Please stick to one Email address(out of your Reed Ebarb-secretary address and this one as acting treasurer) as it could seem that you were trying to create the appearance that more than one officer was supporting your own position. Also On 2013-04-09 23:36, treasurer at lplouisiana.org wrote: > Mr. Hayes, > I strongly suggest you take a back seat over the next month and > learn > how things are done before attempting to come in and change > everything. When I joined the party in early 2012, we had less than > 10 people at the convention, no candidates, and no income. A year > later, look where we are. Many things would not be possible today > without the relentless, determined work of a few, unpaid, party > officers. > > Before you change things, I highly suggest you take a back seat > to > how things are run and ask why things are a certain way before you > attempt to change something you don't understand. You are ignorant to > how things came to be this way and why certain decisions were made. > Asking and learning tend to help one make an informed decision. > > Your ignorance will cause the Party much trouble over the next few > months > as you try to change everything to suit you. Learn and ask. The Party > didn't become this strong and large without a few intelligent beings > running it. > >> Reed, >> You essentially just called me a liar. It is not productive or >> appreciated. The numbers I were quoting came from my recollection of >> a >> conversation I had with chuck Saucier the organizer of the event: >> >> "March 13 >> Chuck..are you going to make it to the State Central committee >> meeting >> in NOLA April 13th at noon? >> 9:12am >> Still hopin to be working for the Libertarian party at the >> Strawberry >> Festival that weekend...Its an event that draws 500,000+ people" >> >> For the purpose of my point did it really matter? I can copy and >> paste >> the Email and send it to anyone that cares to see it on facebook >> with my >> pictures and chuck's sitting right in the mail. I also just got off >> the >> phone with Chuck and when I told him that we were voting on whether >> or >> not to do radio advertisement for the Festival..he interrupted me >> and >> said he didn't think that would be a good investment. Anybody that >> cares >> to call him and check this is welcome. I also told him with a laugh >> that >> he got me "called out" over the numbers he gave to me on March >> 13th..and >> he said the numbers vary on where you look and from year to year and >> that the estimates do range upwards of 500,000 people. I suggest in >> the >> future actually picking up the phone and talking to the people >> organizing an event before making plans relative to that event to >> get >> their input and perspective. >> >> >> The fact that the Chairman had not made sure that the Reps have been >> notified and are up to speed on this email system before springing >> this >> hasty vote is problematic and I believe Mr Salgado has yet to >> receive >> any Email at all because the party has the wrong address. There is >> a >> reason why Robert's frowns upon email voting..and the problems >> arising >> in this vote are why. >> >> Additionally, the suggestion that I support someone else's project >> just >> so that I get my own project in the future supported is rather >> troubling. Isn't that the sort of behavior that we are supposed to >> be >> working against? Also, to say that I am complaining...I thought I >> was >> engaged in discussion. Maybe if things had been done properly >> relative >> to notifying the new Reps there wouldn't have been anything to >> object to >> on that regard. I frankly am taken aback at the VERY unprofessional >> attitude I have been greeted with here. It's such a shame that one >> of >> the only true professionals I have encountered in the party, Wes >> Benedict, is resigning this Friday. His presence will be truly >> missed. >> >> >> >> >> >> On 2013-04-09 21:44, Reed Ebarb wrote: >>> Mr. Hayes, I am an adamant fact checker and your 500,000 is a VERY >>> inflated number. Do not feed false facts to this mailing list or I >>> will >>> call you out on it EVERY SINGLE TIME. Next time you want to make >>> things >>> up, don't send it to me. I believe Adrien already said something to >>> this >>> effect but I do not think it neccessary for you to speak for people >>> already on the mailing list. >>> >>> If you believe we should spend on something else, PLEASE make a >>> motion. >>> Otherwise, stop complaining. I don't have time or patience for it. >>> >>>> On this matter..this is like advertising that we will be going >>>> door >>>> to >>>> door. The Strawberry Festival itself is the advertisement. It >>>> attracts >>>> 500,000 people over the 3 days that it runs..its the largest >>>> festival in >>>> the state. All we will be doing is spending our money to >>>> advertise >>>> for >>>> the Strawberry Festival. Nobody is going the head to the Festival >>>> from >>>> New Orleans where the show airs just to go to the Libertarian >>>> Party >>>> booth. Money would have been better spent on professional >>>> literature >>>> with our contact information to pass out at the Festival. David >>>> Mounts >>>> was prepared to buy some of this out of his own pocket to the tune >>>> of >>>> about $700 but I think this suggestion has him so frustrated that >>>> he >>>> has >>>> decided to not do so. >>>> >>>> On 2013-04-09 19:30, Daniel Hayes wrote: >>>>> I have to strongly object to this proceeding as most of the Reps >>>>> from >>>>> the parishes have not had a chance to even get into their Emails. >>>>> We >>>>> also need some time for discussion. This is hasty and ill >>>>> advised. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 2013-04-09 19:07, Boyd Smith wrote: >>>>>> Is Daniel Hayes on the list? >>>>>> >>>>>> Jefferson Parish. >>>>>> >>>>>> bws >>>>>> >>>>>> FROM: Adrien Monteleone >>>>>> TO: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors >>>>>> >>>>>> SENT: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 7:00 PM >>>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - >>>>>> urgent >>>>>> - radio advertising >>>>>> >>>>>> They vote on all items. >>>>>> >>>>>> They are on this list. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- In Liberty, >>>>>> >>>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>>> On 04/09/2013 06:49 PM, Keith Thompson wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm still ignorant of the rules for this sort of thing. Is this >>>>>>> something that the parish reps should vote on as well? Or do >>>>>>> they >>>>>>> not >>>>>>> vote on all items? >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> - Keith >>>>>>> On 2013-04-09 17:11, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As of right now, there are 4 votes. three more are needed for >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> quorum. If they are "Aye" then there is an absolute majority >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>> passes. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I will not vote until two more "Aye" votes are in. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- In Liberty, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>>>>> On 04/09/2013 04:57 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Like it. Much better. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> bws >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> FROM: Adrien Monteleone mailto:chairman at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>> TO: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors >>>>>>>>> mailto:scc at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>> SENT: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 3:20 PM >>>>>>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - >>>>>>>>> urgent - radio advertising >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> That text looks good. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I couldn't help myself and tweaked it a bit. (attached) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> These are just suggestions. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I timed it right short of 30 seconds. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- In Liberty, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>>>>>> On 04/09/2013 02:05 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The same. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Look this over and give what ever improvements that you can, >>>>>>>>>> please. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> bws >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> FROM: Keith Thompson mailto:media at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>>> TO: scc at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>>> SENT: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 1:55 PM >>>>>>>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR >>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>> urgent - radio advertising >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Would we get a better rate if we produced the spot? Or is it >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> same cost regardless of production? >>>>>>>>>> - Keith >>>>>>>>>> On 2013-04-09 13:39, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> To all SCC members, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> My apologies for the short deadline of this vote. I >>>>>>>>>>> generally >>>>>>>>>>> do not prefer to make such a request. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Our Elections officer Boyd Smith would like approval to >>>>>>>>>>> spend >>>>>>>>>>> party funds on radio advertising our presence at the >>>>>>>>>>> Ponchatoula >>>>>>>>>>> Strawberry Festival this weekend. (to encourage people to >>>>>>>>>>> stop >>>>>>>>>>> by, learn more, and sign up as members and change voter >>>>>>>>>>> registration to LP) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> He would like to run 1-2 commercials per day for Wednesday, >>>>>>>>>>> Thursday & Friday. (deadlines mean maybe only Thurs. and >>>>>>>>>>> Fri. >>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>> available) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The cost for 60 second spots is $75. >>>>>>>>>>> The cost for 30 second spots is $55. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This includes production, but Boyd will be in charge of the >>>>>>>>>>> script. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The spots will be run during the John Osterlind and Denny >>>>>>>>>>> Shaffer shows on WRNO which have both been friendly to the >>>>>>>>>>> LP. (I >>>>>>>>>>> think Osterlind already announced he is "libertarian" and >>>>>>>>>>> endorsed Gary Johnson last fall) Their audience is friendly >>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>> our message as well. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On the short side, this will cost $165 for three 30 second >>>>>>>>>>> spots, or as much as $450 for six 60 second spots. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It is estimated that this will increase traffic at the LP >>>>>>>>>>> booth >>>>>>>>>>> at the festival by about 200 to even maybe 600 people. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> We would need to generate 7 new memberships to break even >>>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>> the low end, and 18 to break even on the high end. That >>>>>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>> worst be a 10% conversion rate, and at best, only 1%. I >>>>>>>>>>> think >>>>>>>>>>> either number is achievable. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Additionally, if we vote to do this, donors can be targeted >>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>> pledge the extra bucks to cover the cost so there is still >>>>>>>>>>> no >>>>>>>>>>> net >>>>>>>>>>> loss to the bank balance as of today. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> All those in favor of authorizing this expenditure please >>>>>>>>>>> vote >>>>>>>>>>> AYE as soon as possible. Time lost is time missed to run >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> spots and reach more people. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Of course, our normal rules of 72 hours to vote still >>>>>>>>>>> apply, >>>>>>>>>>> but I urge you to get your vote in sooner if you are able. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Now that we have 13 members on the Board, 7 will be needed >>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>> a quorum and a majority of those voting required for >>>>>>>>>>> passage. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> If you intend to vote NAY, please also do that as soon as >>>>>>>>>>> possible so we will know quickly if this measure would >>>>>>>>>>> fail. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> -- In Liberty, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>> [1] >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Links: >>>>>> ------ >>>>>> [1] http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SCC mailing list >>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>>> >>> >>> >>> If you have not already done so, please consider becoming a dues >>> member of >>> the Libertarian Party of Louisiana by visiting >>> louisianalibertarian.net >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SCC mailing list >>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org From chairman at lplouisiana.org Wed Apr 10 00:15:09 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 00:15:09 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - radio advertising In-Reply-To: <011101ce3596$e5b82460$b1286d20$@org> References: <51646046.3040901@lplouisiana.org> <1365534357.58710.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <5164782A.2080104@lplouisiana.org> <1365544634.38375.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51649225.60206@lplouisiana.org> <5164ABB1.6030108@lplouisiana.org> <1365552447.72412.YahooMailNeo@web161904.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <541ee454ed6414bd580f7af2698c2f7d@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> <1365558922.95590.YahooMailNeo@web161903.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <5164CC7B.1030709@lplouisiana.org> <011101ce3596$e5b82460$b1286d20$@org> Message-ID: <5164F55D.3080005@lplouisiana.org> Thank you Lee, vote received. Technically, once a motion is made and seconded, it cannot be rescinded by the mover without a vote to allow such. However, this is something normally done in a physical meeting. We've adapted the rules somewhat for email. Officially, you could say Mr. Smith made the motion and the Chair seconded it. (which is why I indicated to Mr. Kearney an official second was not necessary) Or that the Chair made the motion, and Mr. Kearney's second served that purpose. Since Boyd will be the person making this happen, if he really doesn't want to do it any more, and since he was the one who asked for approval to spend the funds, then I guess the motion has died. But he is still free to change his mind if he wants to. In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 4/9/13 9:55 PM, T Lee Horne III wrote: > > If the motion is still active, I vote yes. > > My reason is simple, publicity is important in and of itself. > > Anytime we can find the funds to put the party name out for the public to > see and associate it with some aspect of the philosophy of the party we gain > recognition and momentum. > > *T Lee Horne, III* > > Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA > > President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 > > Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 > > Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 > > tleehorneiii at gmail.com > > 318-542-4445 google voice > > tleehorneiii skype > > *http://bit.ly/12zAQMS* > > *From:*scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] *On > Behalf Of *Adrien Monteleone > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 09, 2013 10:21 PM > *To:* scc at lplouisiana.org > *Subject:* Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - > radio advertising > > Crowd estimates for 2010 were around 300,000 total. > > I didn't see it as redundant. With a large festival, it's quite likely that > you won't get 100% of the traffic from the entire festival in your area. > What I saw these ads as doing, was not to get people to GO in the first > place, but to look for the booth since there's a good chance they'll already > be there. > > People with booths at festivals advertise all the time to make sure they get > their desired traffic. Especially if you're a newcomer, people don't know > to look for you. > > As well, the amount being considered for spending was small. > > But, that's your call to withdraw when working via email. (such is not > generally allowed in a physical meeting) > > -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > On 04/09/2013 08:55 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: > > I was not aware of how big this was. If that many people are going to > be there, advertising may actually be redundant. > > I will withdraw my motion. > > bws > > *From:*Daniel Hayes > > *To:* scc at lplouisiana.org > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 9, 2013 8:06 PM > *Subject:* Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - > radio advertising > > > On this matter..this is like advertising that we will be going door to > door. The Strawberry Festival itself is the advertisement. It attracts > 500,000 people over the 3 days that it runs..its the largest festival in > the state. All we will be doing is spending our money to advertise for > the Strawberry Festival. Nobody is going the head to the Festival from > New Orleans where the show airs just to go to the Libertarian Party > booth. Money would have been better spent on professional literature > with our contact information to pass out at the Festival. David Mounts > was prepared to buy some of this out of his own pocket to the tune of > about $700 but I think this suggestion has him so frustrated that he has > decided to not do so. > > On 2013-04-09 19:30, Daniel Hayes wrote: > > I have to strongly object to this proceeding as most of the Reps from > > the parishes have not had a chance to even get into their Emails. We > > also need some time for discussion. This is hasty and ill advised. > > > > > > > > On 2013-04-09 19:07, Boyd Smith wrote: > >> Is Daniel Hayes on the list? > >> > >> Jefferson Parish. > >> > >> bws > >> > >> FROM: Adrien Monteleone > > >> TO: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors > > >> SENT: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 7:00 PM > >> SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent > >> - radio advertising > >> > >> They vote on all items. > >> > >> They are on this list. > >> > >> -- In Liberty, > >> > >> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > >> Libertarian Party of Louisiana > >> On 04/09/2013 06:49 PM, Keith Thompson wrote: > >> > >>> I'm still ignorant of the rules for this sort of thing. Is this > something that the parish reps should vote on as well? Or do they not > vote on all items? > >>> Thanks, > >>> - Keith > >>> On 2013-04-09 17:11, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > >>> > >>>> Thanks. > >>>> > >>>> As of right now, there are 4 votes. three more are needed for a > quorum. If they are "Aye" then there is an absolute majority and it passes. > >>>> > >>>> I will not vote until two more "Aye" votes are in. > >>>> > >>>> -- In Liberty, > >>>> > >>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > >>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana > >>>> On 04/09/2013 04:57 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Like it. Much better. > >>>>> > >>>>> bws > >>>>> > >>>>> FROM: Adrien Monteleone mailto:chairman at lplouisiana.org > > >>>>> TO: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors > mailto:scc at lplouisiana.org > >>>>> SENT: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 3:20 PM > >>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - > urgent - radio advertising > >>>>> > >>>>> That text looks good. > >>>>> > >>>>> I couldn't help myself and tweaked it a bit. (attached) > >>>>> > >>>>> These are just suggestions. > >>>>> > >>>>> I timed it right short of 30 seconds. > >>>>> > >>>>> -- In Liberty, > >>>>> > >>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > >>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana > >>>>> On 04/09/2013 02:05 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> The same. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Look this over and give what ever improvements that you can, please. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> bws > >>>>>> > >>>>>> FROM: Keith Thompson mailto:media at lplouisiana.org > > >>>>>> TO: scc at lplouisiana.org > >>>>>> SENT: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 1:55 PM > >>>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - > urgent - radio advertising > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Would we get a better rate if we produced the spot? Or is it the > same cost regardless of production? > >>>>>> - Keith > >>>>>> On 2013-04-09 13:39, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> To all SCC members, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> My apologies for the short deadline of this vote. I generally do > not prefer to make such a request. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Our Elections officer Boyd Smith would like approval to spend > party funds on radio advertising our presence at the Ponchatoula > Strawberry Festival this weekend. (to encourage people to stop by, learn > more, and sign up as members and change voter registration to LP) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> He would like to run 1-2 commercials per day for Wednesday, > Thursday & Friday. (deadlines mean maybe only Thurs. and Fri. are available) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The cost for 60 second spots is $75. > >>>>>>> The cost for 30 second spots is $55. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> This includes production, but Boyd will be in charge of the script. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The spots will be run during the John Osterlind and Denny > Shaffer shows on WRNO which have both been friendly to the LP. (I think > Osterlind already announced he is "libertarian" and endorsed Gary > Johnson last fall) Their audience is friendly to our message as well. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On the short side, this will cost $165 for three 30 second > spots, or as much as $450 for six 60 second spots. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> It is estimated that this will increase traffic at the LP booth > at the festival by about 200 to even maybe 600 people. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> We would need to generate 7 new memberships to break even on the > low end, and 18 to break even on the high end. That would at worst be a > 10% conversion rate, and at best, only 1%. I think either number is > achievable. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Additionally, if we vote to do this, donors can be targeted to > pledge the extra bucks to cover the cost so there is still no net loss > to the bank balance as of today. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> All those in favor of authorizing this expenditure please vote > AYE as soon as possible. Time lost is time missed to run the spots and > reach more people. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Of course, our normal rules of 72 hours to vote still apply, but > I urge you to get your vote in sooner if you are able. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Now that we have 13 members on the Board, 7 will be needed for a > quorum and a majority of those voting required for passage. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> If you intend to vote NAY, please also do that as soon as > possible so we will know quickly if this measure would fail. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> -- In Liberty, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > >>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> SCC mailing list > >>>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org > >>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> SCC mailing list > >>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org > >>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> SCC mailing list > >>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org > >>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> SCC mailing list > >>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org > >>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> SCC mailing list > >>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org > >>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> SCC mailing list > >> SCC at lplouisiana.org > >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] > >> > >> > >> > >> Links: > >> ------ > >> [1] http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> SCC mailing list > >> SCC at lplouisiana.org > >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > > > _______________________________________________ SCC mailing listSCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > This message has been processed by Firetrust Benign > . > > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chairman at lplouisiana.org Wed Apr 10 00:35:14 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 00:35:14 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - radio advertising In-Reply-To: References: <51646046.3040901@lplouisiana.org> <1365534357.58710.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <5164782A.2080104@lplouisiana.org> <1365544634.38375.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51649225.60206@lplouisiana.org> <5164ABB1.6030108@lplouisiana.org> <1365552447.72412.YahooMailNeo@web161904.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <541ee454ed6414bd580f7af2698c2f7d@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <5164FA12.6060907@lplouisiana.org> The numbers are close enough not to quibble over. The reasons I stated why I think this is a good use of a small amount of funds are still valid, in fact, the larger the festival the more validity my point may hold. As to the issue of new people coming aboard - no one is harmed by this save Mr. Smith because the requirement for passage may have thus been higher than those willing to respond since they are so new. Your objection is noted and has already been addressed. Repeating it doesn't change anything. As well, it holds little water. I spoke to you personally on Saturday and advised you of most of what you needed to know face to face. I also advised you to keep an eye out for your email with the new LPL address instructions. You received that yesterday at 4;58pm. I have since forwarded all of you the relevant messages from the mailing list dealing with issues that we will be addressing at this meeting. Yes, I forgot to add the new rep addresses to the mailing list before this motion was sent out. Keith asked a question which prompted to remind me to do so and everyone was copied appropriately - no one was left out. The motion was still young and no one was demanding votes from anyone. I think I've addressed that issue sufficiently in my previous response. Mr. Salgado is free to speak for himself, as is Mr. Mounts. This is now the second time I will call you to order on this point. For the benefit of everyone else, I sent Albert Salgado, the Orleans Rep, his email instructions at 3:30 on April 2nd. That was a week ago. I sent those instructions to the address HE wrote down on the sign-in sheet at the caucus. It did not bounce. There's only so much I can do. Since you sent me a different email address in a recent message, I've sent him a message to that address to make sure he's squared away and to let him know to contact me if he has issues. I find you seem to have an odd pre-occupation with serving as "conversation mediator" for others instead of letting them speak for themselves or handle their own issues. Or perhaps, you just want to inject yourself into everything. I'm not sure. But it is not welcome. I never suggested you needed to support someone else's project to get support for yours. I suggested for you not to be so condescending and negative out of the gate. You're new here and you're making a really poor initial impression. Attacking the Chair or any other member in your first interactions isn't what one would consider "professionalism" or "civil" behavior according to Robert's. We are not generally an adversarial group. We'd rather focus on building the party. Let's get back to that task. In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 4/9/13 11:00 PM, Daniel Hayes wrote: > Reed, > You essentially just called me a liar. It is not productive or > appreciated. The numbers I were quoting came from my recollection of a > conversation I had with chuck Saucier the organizer of the event: > > "March 13 > Chuck..are you going to make it to the State Central committee meeting in > NOLA April 13th at noon? > 9:12am > Still hopin to be working for the Libertarian party at the Strawberry > Festival that weekend...Its an event that draws 500,000+ people" > > For the purpose of my point did it really matter? I can copy and paste the > Email and send it to anyone that cares to see it on facebook with my > pictures and chuck's sitting right in the mail. I also just got off the > phone with Chuck and when I told him that we were voting on whether or not > to do radio advertisement for the Festival..he interrupted me and said he > didn't think that would be a good investment. Anybody that cares to call him > and check this is welcome. I also told him with a laugh that he got me > "called out" over the numbers he gave to me on March 13th..and he said the > numbers vary on where you look and from year to year and that the estimates > do range upwards of 500,000 people. I suggest in the future actually > picking up the phone and talking to the people organizing an event before > making plans relative to that event to get their input and perspective. > > > The fact that the Chairman had not made sure that the Reps have been > notified and are up to speed on this email system before springing this > hasty vote is problematic and I believe Mr Salgado has yet to receive any > Email at all because the party has the wrong address. There is a reason why > Robert's frowns upon email voting..and the problems arising in this vote are > why. > > Additionally, the suggestion that I support someone else's project just so > that I get my own project in the future supported is rather troubling. Isn't > that the sort of behavior that we are supposed to be working against? Also, > to say that I am complaining...I thought I was engaged in discussion. Maybe > if things had been done properly relative to notifying the new Reps there > wouldn't have been anything to object to on that regard. I frankly am taken > aback at the VERY unprofessional attitude I have been greeted with here. > It's such a shame that one of the only true professionals I have encountered > in the party, Wes Benedict, is resigning this Friday. His presence will be > truly missed. > > > > > > On 2013-04-09 21:44, Reed Ebarb wrote: >> Mr. Hayes, I am an adamant fact checker and your 500,000 is a VERY >> inflated number. Do not feed false facts to this mailing list or I will >> call you out on it EVERY SINGLE TIME. Next time you want to make things >> up, don't send it to me. I believe Adrien already said something to this >> effect but I do not think it neccessary for you to speak for people >> already on the mailing list. >> >> If you believe we should spend on something else, PLEASE make a motion. >> Otherwise, stop complaining. I don't have time or patience for it. >> >>> On this matter..this is like advertising that we will be going door to >>> door. The Strawberry Festival itself is the advertisement. It attracts >>> 500,000 people over the 3 days that it runs..its the largest festival in >>> the state. All we will be doing is spending our money to advertise for >>> the Strawberry Festival. Nobody is going the head to the Festival from >>> New Orleans where the show airs just to go to the Libertarian Party >>> booth. Money would have been better spent on professional literature >>> with our contact information to pass out at the Festival. David Mounts >>> was prepared to buy some of this out of his own pocket to the tune of >>> about $700 but I think this suggestion has him so frustrated that he has >>> decided to not do so. >>> >>> On 2013-04-09 19:30, Daniel Hayes wrote: >>>> I have to strongly object to this proceeding as most of the Reps from >>>> the parishes have not had a chance to even get into their Emails. We >>>> also need some time for discussion. This is hasty and ill advised. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2013-04-09 19:07, Boyd Smith wrote: >>>>> Is Daniel Hayes on the list? >>>>> >>>>> Jefferson Parish. >>>>> >>>>> bws >>>>> >>>>> FROM: Adrien Monteleone >>>>> TO: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors >>>>> SENT: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 7:00 PM >>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - >>>>> urgent >>>>> - radio advertising >>>>> >>>>> They vote on all items. >>>>> >>>>> They are on this list. >>>>> >>>>> -- In Liberty, >>>>> >>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>> On 04/09/2013 06:49 PM, Keith Thompson wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I'm still ignorant of the rules for this sort of thing. Is this >>>>>> something that the parish reps should vote on as well? Or do they not >>>>>> vote on all items? >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> - Keith >>>>>> On 2013-04-09 17:11, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As of right now, there are 4 votes. three more are needed for a >>>>>>> quorum. If they are "Aye" then there is an absolute majority and it >>>>>>> passes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I will not vote until two more "Aye" votes are in. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- In Liberty, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>>>> On 04/09/2013 04:57 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Like it. Much better. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> bws >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> FROM: Adrien Monteleone mailto:chairman at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>> TO: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors >>>>>>>> mailto:scc at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>> SENT: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 3:20 PM >>>>>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - >>>>>>>> urgent - radio advertising >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That text looks good. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I couldn't help myself and tweaked it a bit. (attached) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> These are just suggestions. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I timed it right short of 30 seconds. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- In Liberty, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>>>>> On 04/09/2013 02:05 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The same. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Look this over and give what ever improvements that you can, >>>>>>>>> please. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> bws >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> FROM: Keith Thompson mailto:media at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>> TO: scc at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>> SENT: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 1:55 PM >>>>>>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - >>>>>>>>> urgent - radio advertising >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Would we get a better rate if we produced the spot? Or is it the >>>>>>>>> same cost regardless of production? >>>>>>>>> - Keith >>>>>>>>> On 2013-04-09 13:39, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To all SCC members, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> My apologies for the short deadline of this vote. I generally >>>>>>>>>> do not prefer to make such a request. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Our Elections officer Boyd Smith would like approval to spend >>>>>>>>>> party funds on radio advertising our presence at the Ponchatoula >>>>>>>>>> Strawberry Festival this weekend. (to encourage people to stop >>>>>>>>>> by, learn more, and sign up as members and change voter >>>>>>>>>> registration to LP) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> He would like to run 1-2 commercials per day for Wednesday, >>>>>>>>>> Thursday & Friday. (deadlines mean maybe only Thurs. and Fri. are >>>>>>>>>> available) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The cost for 60 second spots is $75. >>>>>>>>>> The cost for 30 second spots is $55. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This includes production, but Boyd will be in charge of the >>>>>>>>>> script. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The spots will be run during the John Osterlind and Denny >>>>>>>>>> Shaffer shows on WRNO which have both been friendly to the LP. (I >>>>>>>>>> think Osterlind already announced he is "libertarian" and >>>>>>>>>> endorsed Gary Johnson last fall) Their audience is friendly to >>>>>>>>>> our message as well. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On the short side, this will cost $165 for three 30 second >>>>>>>>>> spots, or as much as $450 for six 60 second spots. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It is estimated that this will increase traffic at the LP booth >>>>>>>>>> at the festival by about 200 to even maybe 600 people. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> We would need to generate 7 new memberships to break even on >>>>>>>>>> the low end, and 18 to break even on the high end. That would at >>>>>>>>>> worst be a 10% conversion rate, and at best, only 1%. I think >>>>>>>>>> either number is achievable. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Additionally, if we vote to do this, donors can be targeted to >>>>>>>>>> pledge the extra bucks to cover the cost so there is still no net >>>>>>>>>> loss to the bank balance as of today. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> All those in favor of authorizing this expenditure please vote >>>>>>>>>> AYE as soon as possible. Time lost is time missed to run the >>>>>>>>>> spots and reach more people. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Of course, our normal rules of 72 hours to vote still apply, >>>>>>>>>> but I urge you to get your vote in sooner if you are able. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Now that we have 13 members on the Board, 7 will be needed for >>>>>>>>>> a quorum and a majority of those voting required for passage. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If you intend to vote NAY, please also do that as soon as >>>>>>>>>> possible so we will know quickly if this measure would fail. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> -- In Liberty, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Links: >>>>> ------ >>>>> [1] http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SCC mailing list >>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>> >> >> >> If you have not already done so, please consider becoming a dues member of >> the Libertarian Party of Louisiana by visiting louisianalibertarian.net >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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You should have received a subscription >> announcement already about this.? Keep it handy to refer to in case >> you need to know how to do something with the list. >> >> Please read this motion below and cast a vote as soon as you can so >> we can get moving on this. >> >> Please change the "reply" address when you vote to: >> scc at lplouisiana.org so your vote will end up in the archives.? Thanks. >> >> ------------------------- >> >> My apologies for the short deadline of this vote.? I generally do >> not prefer to make such a request. >> >> Our Elections officer Boyd Smith would like approval to spend party >> funds on radio advertising our presence at the Ponchatoula Strawberry >> Festival this weekend. (to encourage people to stop by, learn more, >> and sign up as members and change voter registration to LP) >> >> He would like to run 1-2 commercials per day for Wednesday, Thursday >> & Friday. (deadlines mean maybe only Thurs. and Fri. are available) >> >> The cost for 60 second spots is $75. >> The cost for 30 second spots is $55. >> >> This includes production, but Boyd will be in charge of the script. >> >> The spots will be run during the John Osterlind and Denny Shaffer >> shows on WRNO which have both been friendly to the LP. (I think >> Osterlind already announced he is "libertarian" and endorsed Gary >> Johnson last fall)? Their audience is friendly to our message as well. >> >> On the short side, this will cost $165 for three 30 second spots, or >> as much as $450 for six 60 second spots. >> >> It is estimated that this will increase traffic at the LP booth at >> the festival by about 200 to even maybe 600 people. >> >> We would need to generate 7 new memberships to break even on the low >> end, and 18 to break even on the high end. That would at worst be a >> 10% conversion rate, and at best, only 1%.? 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URL: From chairman at lplouisiana.org Wed Apr 10 00:44:51 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 00:44:51 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - radio advertising In-Reply-To: <79189d2115b4905f02b9419858158a2b@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> References: <51646046.3040901@lplouisiana.org> <1365534357.58710.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <5164782A.2080104@lplouisiana.org> <1365544634.38375.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51649225.60206@lplouisiana.org> <5164ABB1.6030108@lplouisiana.org> <1365552447.72412.YahooMailNeo@web161904.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <541ee454ed6414bd580f7af2698c2f7d@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> <79189d2115b4905f02b9419858158a2b@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <5164FC53.5080601@lplouisiana.org> Mr. Hayes, The tone of the present thread seems to be entirely of your doing sir. You started it off. Please cease. Same to you Mr. Ebarb. Enough. None of this is productive. Mr. Hayes, I'm not sure what your issue is with "transparency." I've not been requested for any information that I'm aware of that I haven't responded to. Anything you want to know about how the party is operated, feel free to ask. I've addressed your insinuations of lack of professionalism in another response. In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 4/10/13 12:12 AM, Daniel Hayes wrote: > Reed, > I was elected to represent my parish, not to sit back and watch how "the > good ol' boys" do things. I do ask questions and I get snarky flippant > responses from you and others. The lack of transparency and professionalism > in a Libertarian organization is appalling. Your last 2 emails to me have > directly insulted me. You have implied I was a liar and you have called me > ignorant. I am well aware of the proper use of the word but the fact that > you used it to reference me twice in the same post is rather troubling. Is > this the normal nature of the correspondence from officers to new SCC > members and among each other? You tell me to quit complaining when I was > objecting to improper notification of SCC members as they were not included > in the mail relative to this and I was voicing my concerns over expending > hard fought over funding. Your efforts in the past did help us to get here > but to imply that I am any less able to understand the matters at hand is > frankly troubling. Also, to imply that this party is strong and large at > this point? 7600 members?No elected officials but a few small seats that > nobody ran for? Maybe the Rithmetic classes down in south Louisiana aren't > up to par with those in the north..but I just don't see that > assertion...Also, Please stick to one Email address(out of your Reed > Ebarb-secretary address and this one as acting treasurer) as it could seem > that you were trying to create the appearance that more than one officer was > supporting your own position. > > Also > On 2013-04-09 23:36, treasurer at lplouisiana.org wrote: >> Mr. Hayes, >> I strongly suggest you take a back seat over the next month and learn >> how things are done before attempting to come in and change >> everything. When I joined the party in early 2012, we had less than >> 10 people at the convention, no candidates, and no income. A year >> later, look where we are. Many things would not be possible today >> without the relentless, determined work of a few, unpaid, party >> officers. >> >> Before you change things, I highly suggest you take a back seat to >> how things are run and ask why things are a certain way before you >> attempt to change something you don't understand. You are ignorant to >> how things came to be this way and why certain decisions were made. >> Asking and learning tend to help one make an informed decision. >> >> Your ignorance will cause the Party much trouble over the next few months >> as you try to change everything to suit you. Learn and ask. The Party >> didn't become this strong and large without a few intelligent beings >> running it. >> >>> Reed, >>> You essentially just called me a liar. It is not productive or >>> appreciated. The numbers I were quoting came from my recollection of a >>> conversation I had with chuck Saucier the organizer of the event: >>> >>> "March 13 >>> Chuck..are you going to make it to the State Central committee meeting >>> in NOLA April 13th at noon? >>> 9:12am >>> Still hopin to be working for the Libertarian party at the Strawberry >>> Festival that weekend...Its an event that draws 500,000+ people" >>> >>> For the purpose of my point did it really matter? I can copy and paste >>> the Email and send it to anyone that cares to see it on facebook with my >>> pictures and chuck's sitting right in the mail. I also just got off the >>> phone with Chuck and when I told him that we were voting on whether or >>> not to do radio advertisement for the Festival..he interrupted me and >>> said he didn't think that would be a good investment. Anybody that cares >>> to call him and check this is welcome. I also told him with a laugh that >>> he got me "called out" over the numbers he gave to me on March 13th..and >>> he said the numbers vary on where you look and from year to year and >>> that the estimates do range upwards of 500,000 people. I suggest in the >>> future actually picking up the phone and talking to the people >>> organizing an event before making plans relative to that event to get >>> their input and perspective. >>> >>> >>> The fact that the Chairman had not made sure that the Reps have been >>> notified and are up to speed on this email system before springing this >>> hasty vote is problematic and I believe Mr Salgado has yet to receive >>> any Email at all because the party has the wrong address. There is a >>> reason why Robert's frowns upon email voting..and the problems arising >>> in this vote are why. >>> >>> Additionally, the suggestion that I support someone else's project just >>> so that I get my own project in the future supported is rather >>> troubling. Isn't that the sort of behavior that we are supposed to be >>> working against? Also, to say that I am complaining...I thought I was >>> engaged in discussion. Maybe if things had been done properly relative >>> to notifying the new Reps there wouldn't have been anything to object to >>> on that regard. I frankly am taken aback at the VERY unprofessional >>> attitude I have been greeted with here. It's such a shame that one of >>> the only true professionals I have encountered in the party, Wes >>> Benedict, is resigning this Friday. His presence will be truly missed. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2013-04-09 21:44, Reed Ebarb wrote: >>>> Mr. Hayes, I am an adamant fact checker and your 500,000 is a VERY >>>> inflated number. Do not feed false facts to this mailing list or I >>>> will >>>> call you out on it EVERY SINGLE TIME. Next time you want to make >>>> things >>>> up, don't send it to me. I believe Adrien already said something to >>>> this >>>> effect but I do not think it neccessary for you to speak for people >>>> already on the mailing list. >>>> >>>> If you believe we should spend on something else, PLEASE make a >>>> motion. >>>> Otherwise, stop complaining. I don't have time or patience for it. >>>> >>>>> On this matter..this is like advertising that we will be going door >>>>> to >>>>> door. The Strawberry Festival itself is the advertisement. It >>>>> attracts >>>>> 500,000 people over the 3 days that it runs..its the largest >>>>> festival in >>>>> the state. All we will be doing is spending our money to advertise >>>>> for >>>>> the Strawberry Festival. Nobody is going the head to the Festival >>>>> from >>>>> New Orleans where the show airs just to go to the Libertarian Party >>>>> booth. Money would have been better spent on professional >>>>> literature >>>>> with our contact information to pass out at the Festival. David >>>>> Mounts >>>>> was prepared to buy some of this out of his own pocket to the tune >>>>> of >>>>> about $700 but I think this suggestion has him so frustrated that he >>>>> has >>>>> decided to not do so. >>>>> >>>>> On 2013-04-09 19:30, Daniel Hayes wrote: >>>>>> I have to strongly object to this proceeding as most of the Reps >>>>>> from >>>>>> the parishes have not had a chance to even get into their Emails. >>>>>> We >>>>>> also need some time for discussion. This is hasty and ill advised. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2013-04-09 19:07, Boyd Smith wrote: >>>>>>> Is Daniel Hayes on the list? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jefferson Parish. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> bws >>>>>>> >>>>>>> FROM: Adrien Monteleone >>>>>>> TO: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors >>>>>>> SENT: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 7:00 PM >>>>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - >>>>>>> urgent >>>>>>> - radio advertising >>>>>>> >>>>>>> They vote on all items. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> They are on this list. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- In Liberty, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>>>> On 04/09/2013 06:49 PM, Keith Thompson wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm still ignorant of the rules for this sort of thing. Is this >>>>>>>> something that the parish reps should vote on as well? Or do they >>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>> vote on all items? >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> - Keith >>>>>>>> On 2013-04-09 17:11, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As of right now, there are 4 votes. three more are needed for a >>>>>>>>> quorum. If they are "Aye" then there is an absolute majority and >>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>> passes. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I will not vote until two more "Aye" votes are in. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- In Liberty, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>>>>>> On 04/09/2013 04:57 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Like it. Much better. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> bws >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> FROM: Adrien Monteleone mailto:chairman at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>>> TO: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors >>>>>>>>>> mailto:scc at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>>> SENT: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 3:20 PM >>>>>>>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - >>>>>>>>>> urgent - radio advertising >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> That text looks good. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I couldn't help myself and tweaked it a bit. (attached) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> These are just suggestions. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I timed it right short of 30 seconds. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- In Liberty, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>>>>>>> On 04/09/2013 02:05 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The same. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Look this over and give what ever improvements that you can, >>>>>>>>>>> please. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> bws >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> FROM: Keith Thompson mailto:media at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>>>> TO: scc at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>>>> SENT: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 1:55 PM >>>>>>>>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - >>>>>>>>>>> urgent - radio advertising >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Would we get a better rate if we produced the spot? Or is it >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> same cost regardless of production? >>>>>>>>>>> - Keith >>>>>>>>>>> On 2013-04-09 13:39, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> To all SCC members, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> My apologies for the short deadline of this vote. I generally >>>>>>>>>>>> do not prefer to make such a request. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Our Elections officer Boyd Smith would like approval to spend >>>>>>>>>>>> party funds on radio advertising our presence at the >>>>>>>>>>>> Ponchatoula >>>>>>>>>>>> Strawberry Festival this weekend. (to encourage people to >>>>>>>>>>>> stop >>>>>>>>>>>> by, learn more, and sign up as members and change voter >>>>>>>>>>>> registration to LP) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> He would like to run 1-2 commercials per day for Wednesday, >>>>>>>>>>>> Thursday & Friday. (deadlines mean maybe only Thurs. and Fri. >>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>> available) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The cost for 60 second spots is $75. >>>>>>>>>>>> The cost for 30 second spots is $55. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> This includes production, but Boyd will be in charge of the >>>>>>>>>>>> script. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The spots will be run during the John Osterlind and Denny >>>>>>>>>>>> Shaffer shows on WRNO which have both been friendly to the >>>>>>>>>>>> LP. (I >>>>>>>>>>>> think Osterlind already announced he is "libertarian" and >>>>>>>>>>>> endorsed Gary Johnson last fall) Their audience is friendly >>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>> our message as well. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On the short side, this will cost $165 for three 30 second >>>>>>>>>>>> spots, or as much as $450 for six 60 second spots. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> It is estimated that this will increase traffic at the LP >>>>>>>>>>>> booth >>>>>>>>>>>> at the festival by about 200 to even maybe 600 people. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> We would need to generate 7 new memberships to break even on >>>>>>>>>>>> the low end, and 18 to break even on the high end. That would >>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>> worst be a 10% conversion rate, and at best, only 1%. I think >>>>>>>>>>>> either number is achievable. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Additionally, if we vote to do this, donors can be targeted >>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>> pledge the extra bucks to cover the cost so there is still no >>>>>>>>>>>> net >>>>>>>>>>>> loss to the bank balance as of today. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> All those in favor of authorizing this expenditure please >>>>>>>>>>>> vote >>>>>>>>>>>> AYE as soon as possible. Time lost is time missed to run the >>>>>>>>>>>> spots and reach more people. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Of course, our normal rules of 72 hours to vote still apply, >>>>>>>>>>>> but I urge you to get your vote in sooner if you are able. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Now that we have 13 members on the Board, 7 will be needed >>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>> a quorum and a majority of those voting required for passage. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> If you intend to vote NAY, please also do that as soon as >>>>>>>>>>>> possible so we will know quickly if this measure would fail. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> -- In Liberty, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Links: >>>>>>> ------ >>>>>>> [1] http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> If you have not already done so, please consider becoming a dues >>>> member of >>>> the Libertarian Party of Louisiana by visiting >>>> louisianalibertarian.net >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SCC mailing list >>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SCC mailing list >>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From: sccrep at terrebonne.lplouisiana.org Subject: Re: MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - radio advertising Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 01:10:30 -0500 Size: 7737 URL: From sccrep at jefferson.lplouisiana.org Wed Apr 10 03:32:55 2013 From: sccrep at jefferson.lplouisiana.org (Daniel Hayes) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 03:32:55 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - radio advertising In-Reply-To: <5164FC53.5080601@lplouisiana.org> References: <51646046.3040901@lplouisiana.org> <1365534357.58710.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <5164782A.2080104@lplouisiana.org> <1365544634.38375.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51649225.60206@lplouisiana.org> <5164ABB1.6030108@lplouisiana.org> <1365552447.72412.YahooMailNeo@web161904.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <541ee454ed6414bd580f7af2698c2f7d@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> <79189d2115b4905f02b9419858158a2b@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> <5164FC53.5080601@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: Mr Chairman, I request a point of information. The email chain suggests there was voting and discussion prior to the new SCC reps being added to the thread with their addition to the mailing group for LPL Board of Directors. I would like all those emails forwarded to those of us that were added later. On 2013-04-10 00:44, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > Mr. Hayes, > > The tone of the present thread seems to be entirely of your doing > sir. You started it off. Please cease. > > Same to you Mr. Ebarb. Enough. > > None of this is productive. > > Mr. Hayes, I'm not sure what your issue is with "transparency." I've > not been requested for any information that I'm aware of that I > haven't responded to. Anything you want to know about how the party > is > operated, feel free to ask. > > I've addressed your insinuations of lack of professionalism in > another response. > > In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > On 4/10/13 12:12 AM, Daniel Hayes wrote: > >> Reed, >> I was elected to represent my parish, not to sit back and watch how >> "the good ol' boys" do things. I do ask questions and I get snarky >> flippant responses from you and others. The lack of transparency and >> professionalism in a Libertarian organization is appalling. Your last >> 2 emails to me have directly insulted me. You have implied I was a >> liar and you have called me ignorant. I am well aware of the proper >> use of the word but the fact that you used it to reference me twice in >> the same post is rather troubling. Is this the normal nature of the >> correspondence from officers to new SCC members and among each other? >> You tell me to quit complaining when I was objecting to improper >> notification of SCC members as they were not included in the mail >> relative to this and I was voicing my concerns over expending hard >> fought over funding. Your efforts in the past did help us to get here >> but to imply that I am any less able to understand the matters at hand >> is frankly troubling. Also, to imply that this party is strong and >> large at this point? 7600 members?No elected officials but a few small >> seats that nobody ran for? Maybe the Rithmetic classes down in south >> Louisiana aren't up to par with those in the north..but I just don't >> see that assertion...Also, Please stick to one Email address(out of >> your Reed Ebarb-secretary address and this one as acting treasurer) as >> it could seem that you were trying to create the appearance that more >> than one officer was supporting your own position. >> >> Also >> On 2013-04-09 23:36, treasurer at lplouisiana.org wrote: >> >>> Mr. Hayes, >>> I strongly suggest you take a back seat over the next month and >>> learn >>> how things are done before attempting to come in and change >>> everything. When I joined the party in early 2012, we had less than >>> 10 people at the convention, no candidates, and no income. A year >>> later, look where we are. Many things would not be possible today >>> without the relentless, determined work of a few, unpaid, party >>> officers. >>> >>> Before you change things, I highly suggest you take a back seat to >>> how things are run and ask why things are a certain way before you >>> attempt to change something you don't understand. You are ignorant >>> to >>> how things came to be this way and why certain decisions were made. >>> Asking and learning tend to help one make an informed decision. >>> >>> Your ignorance will cause the Party much trouble over the next few >>> months >>> as you try to change everything to suit you. Learn and ask. The >>> Party >>> didn't become this strong and large without a few intelligent >>> beings >>> running it. >>> >>>> Reed, >>>> You essentially just called me a liar. It is not productive or >>>> appreciated. The numbers I were quoting came from my recollection >>>> of a >>>> conversation I had with chuck Saucier the organizer of the event: >>>> >>>> "March 13 >>>> Chuck..are you going to make it to the State Central committee >>>> meeting >>>> in NOLA April 13th at noon? >>>> 9:12am >>>> Still hopin to be working for the Libertarian party at the >>>> Strawberry >>>> Festival that weekend...Its an event that draws 500,000+ people" >>>> >>>> For the purpose of my point did it really matter? I can copy and >>>> paste >>>> the Email and send it to anyone that cares to see it on facebook >>>> with my >>>> pictures and chuck's sitting right in the mail. I also just got >>>> off the >>>> phone with Chuck and when I told him that we were voting on >>>> whether or >>>> not to do radio advertisement for the Festival..he interrupted me >>>> and >>>> said he didn't think that would be a good investment. Anybody that >>>> cares >>>> to call him and check this is welcome. I also told him with a >>>> laugh that >>>> he got me "called out" over the numbers he gave to me on March >>>> 13th..and >>>> he said the numbers vary on where you look and from year to year >>>> and >>>> that the estimates do range upwards of 500,000 people. I suggest >>>> in the >>>> future actually picking up the phone and talking to the people >>>> organizing an event before making plans relative to that event to >>>> get >>>> their input and perspective. >>>> >>>> The fact that the Chairman had not made sure that the Reps have >>>> been >>>> notified and are up to speed on this email system before springing >>>> this >>>> hasty vote is problematic and I believe Mr Salgado has yet to >>>> receive >>>> any Email at all because the party has the wrong address. There is >>>> a >>>> reason why Robert's frowns upon email voting..and the problems >>>> arising >>>> in this vote are why. >>>> >>>> Additionally, the suggestion that I support someone else's project >>>> just >>>> so that I get my own project in the future supported is rather >>>> troubling. Isn't that the sort of behavior that we are supposed to >>>> be >>>> working against? Also, to say that I am complaining...I thought I >>>> was >>>> engaged in discussion. Maybe if things had been done properly >>>> relative >>>> to notifying the new Reps there wouldn't have been anything to >>>> object to >>>> on that regard. I frankly am taken aback at the VERY >>>> unprofessional >>>> attitude I have been greeted with here. It's such a shame that one >>>> of >>>> the only true professionals I have encountered in the party, Wes >>>> Benedict, is resigning this Friday. His presence will be truly >>>> missed. >>>> >>>> On 2013-04-09 21:44, Reed Ebarb wrote: >>>> >>>>> Mr. Hayes, I am an adamant fact checker and your 500,000 is a >>>>> VERY >>>>> inflated number. Do not feed false facts to this mailing list or >>>>> I >>>>> will >>>>> call you out on it EVERY SINGLE TIME. Next time you want to make >>>>> things >>>>> up, don't send it to me. I believe Adrien already said something >>>>> to >>>>> this >>>>> effect but I do not think it neccessary for you to speak for >>>>> people >>>>> already on the mailing list. >>>>> >>>>> If you believe we should spend on something else, PLEASE make a >>>>> motion. >>>>> Otherwise, stop complaining. I don't have time or patience for >>>>> it. >>>>> >>>>>> On this matter..this is like advertising that we will be going >>>>>> door >>>>>> to >>>>>> door. The Strawberry Festival itself is the advertisement. It >>>>>> attracts >>>>>> 500,000 people over the 3 days that it runs..its the largest >>>>>> festival in >>>>>> the state. All we will be doing is spending our money to >>>>>> advertise >>>>>> for >>>>>> the Strawberry Festival. Nobody is going the head to the >>>>>> Festival >>>>>> from >>>>>> New Orleans where the show airs just to go to the Libertarian >>>>>> Party >>>>>> booth. Money would have been better spent on professional >>>>>> literature >>>>>> with our contact information to pass out at the Festival. David >>>>>> Mounts >>>>>> was prepared to buy some of this out of his own pocket to the >>>>>> tune >>>>>> of >>>>>> about $700 but I think this suggestion has him so frustrated >>>>>> that he >>>>>> has >>>>>> decided to not do so. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2013-04-09 19:30, Daniel Hayes wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I have to strongly object to this proceeding as most of the >>>>>>> Reps >>>>>>> from >>>>>>> the parishes have not had a chance to even get into their >>>>>>> Emails. >>>>>>> We >>>>>>> also need some time for discussion. This is hasty and ill >>>>>>> advised. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2013-04-09 19:07, Boyd Smith wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is Daniel Hayes on the list? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jefferson Parish. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> bws >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> FROM: Adrien Monteleone >>>>>>>> TO: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> SENT: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 7:00 PM >>>>>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - >>>>>>>> urgent >>>>>>>> - radio advertising >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> They vote on all items. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> They are on this list. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- In Liberty, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>>>>> On 04/09/2013 06:49 PM, Keith Thompson wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm still ignorant of the rules for this sort of thing. Is >>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>> something that the parish reps should vote on as well? Or do >>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>> vote on all items? >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>> - Keith >>>>>>>>> On 2013-04-09 17:11, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> As of right now, there are 4 votes. three more are needed >>>>>>>>>> for a >>>>>>>>>> quorum. If they are "Aye" then there is an absolute majority >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>> passes. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I will not vote until two more "Aye" votes are in. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- In Liberty, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>>>>>>> On 04/09/2013 04:57 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Like it. Much better. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> bws >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> FROM: Adrien Monteleone mailto:chairman at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>>>> TO: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors >>>>>>>>>>> mailto:scc at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>>>> SENT: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 3:20 PM >>>>>>>>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR >>>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>>> urgent - radio advertising >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> That text looks good. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't help myself and tweaked it a bit. (attached) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> These are just suggestions. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I timed it right short of 30 seconds. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- In Liberty, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>>>>>>>> On 04/09/2013 02:05 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The same. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Look this over and give what ever improvements that you >>>>>>>>>>>> can, >>>>>>>>>>>> please. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> bws >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> FROM: Keith Thompson mailto:media at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>>>>> TO: scc at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>>>>> SENT: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 1:55 PM >>>>>>>>>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE >>>>>>>>>>>> CHAIR - >>>>>>>>>>>> urgent - radio advertising >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Would we get a better rate if we produced the spot? Or is >>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> same cost regardless of production? >>>>>>>>>>>> - Keith >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2013-04-09 13:39, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> To all SCC members, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> My apologies for the short deadline of this vote. I >>>>>>>>>>>>> generally >>>>>>>>>>>>> do not prefer to make such a request. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Our Elections officer Boyd Smith would like approval to >>>>>>>>>>>>> spend >>>>>>>>>>>>> party funds on radio advertising our presence at the >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ponchatoula >>>>>>>>>>>>> Strawberry Festival this weekend. (to encourage people to >>>>>>>>>>>>> stop >>>>>>>>>>>>> by, learn more, and sign up as members and change voter >>>>>>>>>>>>> registration to LP) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> He would like to run 1-2 commercials per day for >>>>>>>>>>>>> Wednesday, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thursday & Friday. (deadlines mean maybe only Thurs. and >>>>>>>>>>>>> Fri. >>>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>>> available) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The cost for 60 second spots is $75. >>>>>>>>>>>>> The cost for 30 second spots is $55. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> This includes production, but Boyd will be in charge of >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> script. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The spots will be run during the John Osterlind and Denny >>>>>>>>>>>>> Shaffer shows on WRNO which have both been friendly to >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> LP. (I >>>>>>>>>>>>> think Osterlind already announced he is "libertarian" and >>>>>>>>>>>>> endorsed Gary Johnson last fall) Their audience is >>>>>>>>>>>>> friendly >>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>> our message as well. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On the short side, this will cost $165 for three 30 >>>>>>>>>>>>> second >>>>>>>>>>>>> spots, or as much as $450 for six 60 second spots. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It is estimated that this will increase traffic at the LP >>>>>>>>>>>>> booth >>>>>>>>>>>>> at the festival by about 200 to even maybe 600 people. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> We would need to generate 7 new memberships to break even >>>>>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>>>> the low end, and 18 to break even on the high end. That >>>>>>>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>> worst be a 10% conversion rate, and at best, only 1%. I >>>>>>>>>>>>> think >>>>>>>>>>>>> either number is achievable. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Additionally, if we vote to do this, donors can be >>>>>>>>>>>>> targeted >>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>> pledge the extra bucks to cover the cost so there is >>>>>>>>>>>>> still no >>>>>>>>>>>>> net >>>>>>>>>>>>> loss to the bank balance as of today. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> All those in favor of authorizing this expenditure please >>>>>>>>>>>>> vote >>>>>>>>>>>>> AYE as soon as possible. Time lost is time missed to run >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> spots and reach more people. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course, our normal rules of 72 hours to vote still >>>>>>>>>>>>> apply, >>>>>>>>>>>>> but I urge you to get your vote in sooner if you are >>>>>>>>>>>>> able. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Now that we have 13 members on the Board, 7 will be >>>>>>>>>>>>> needed >>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>> a quorum and a majority of those voting required for >>>>>>>>>>>>> passage. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> If you intend to vote NAY, please also do that as soon as >>>>>>>>>>>>> possible so we will know quickly if this measure would >>>>>>>>>>>>> fail. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- In Liberty, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>>>> [1] [1] >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>>>> [1] [1] >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>>> [1] [1] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>> [1] [1] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Links: >>>>>>>> ------ >>>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>> [1] >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>>> >>>>> If you have not already done so, please consider becoming a dues >>>>> member of >>>>> the Libertarian Party of Louisiana by visiting >>>>> louisianalibertarian.net >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SCC mailing list >>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SCC mailing list >>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] > > > > Links: > ------ > [1] http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org From boydw.smith at yahoo.com Wed Apr 10 09:02:19 2013 From: boydw.smith at yahoo.com (Boyd Smith) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 07:02:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Advertising In-Reply-To: <5c43b8e78ca956b7c28fef82fd5dbe88.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> References: <5c43b8e78ca956b7c28fef82fd5dbe88.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <1365602539.24607.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Here is an issue that we are going to have to make room for in the meeting Saturday.? And I will do as much as I can to make the part that may take up time that we need take as little time as possible and to make it be as painless and actually productive as possible.? But the issue relates to growing the party and performing advertising. ? We will need to engage in actual advertising in some markets to both grow the party, the PECs and the local base.? We will also likely have to engage in advertising to gather the support/people necessary to form PECs in some parishes.? Calcasieu is one of those special cases. ? We do not have the luxury of waiting till we have 64 or even 10 PECs formed.? There is a momentum that we have to maintain to continue building the party.? We are at 7550 (approximately) we could very well get to 8500 from events like the Strawberry Festival, Gun Shows and even word of mouth.? But, I think the limit of that is going to be around 9000 - 10,000.? In order to become a viable force in this state for politics, for reform, and for liberty, we will need to get to 25,000+.? And that is going to be only a start.? We are #3 now.? I want to be #1.? I want to be able to look at the Elected Officials Database and see Libertarians in elective office all across the state.? ? To get candidates?who can make a serious run at some of the higher offices in the state (parish council/police jury, state rep, state senate, congress, US Senate, Governor, ect) we need a large membership base.? To get a large membership base we will have to sell what we have and what we have is ideas.? Good ideas, yes.? But ideas - and ideas while bullet proof are abstract concepts.? They are not a hard item like a vacuum cleaner or a tangible service like massage therapy.? They require propagation/marketing/advertising and we are getting close to the point where we are going to have to market our ideas and that is going to require an actual marketing campaign and advertising. ? Boyd W. Smith Elections Officer -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chairman at lplouisiana.org Wed Apr 10 09:51:44 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 09:51:44 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Advertising In-Reply-To: <1365602539.24607.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <5c43b8e78ca956b7c28fef82fd5dbe88.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> <1365602539.24607.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <51657C80.2050401@lplouisiana.org> I agree 100%. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 04/10/2013 09:02 AM, Boyd Smith wrote: > Here is an issue that we are going to have to make room for in the > meeting Saturday. And I will do as much as I can to make the part > that may take up time that we need take as little time as possible and > to make it be as painless and actually productive as possible. But > the issue relates to growing the party and performing advertising. > We will need to engage in actual advertising in some markets to both > grow the party, the PECs and the local base. We will also likely have > to engage in advertising to gather the support/people necessary to > form PECs in some parishes. Calcasieu is one of those special cases. > We do not have the luxury of waiting till we have 64 or even 10 PECs > formed. There is a momentum that we have to maintain to continue > building the party. We are at 7550 (approximately) we could very well > get to 8500 from events like the Strawberry Festival, Gun Shows and > even word of mouth. But, I think the limit of that is going to be > around 9000 - 10,000. In order to become a viable force in this state > for politics, for reform, and for liberty, we will need to get to > 25,000+. And that is going to be only a start. We are #3 now. I > want to be #1. I want to be able to look at the Elected Officials > Database and see Libertarians in elective office all across the state. > To get candidates who can make a serious run at some of the higher > offices in the state (parish council/police jury, state rep, state > senate, congress, US Senate, Governor, ect) we need a large membership > base. To get a large membership base we will have to sell what we > have and what we have is ideas. Good ideas, yes. But ideas - and > ideas while bullet proof are abstract concepts. They are not a hard > item like a vacuumcleaner or a tangible service like massage therapy. > They require propagation/marketing/advertising and we are getting > close to the point where we are going to have to market our ideas and > that is going to require an actual marketing campaign and advertising. > Boyd W. Smith > Elections Officer > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: chairman.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 297 bytes Desc: not available URL: From finance at lplouisiana.org Wed Apr 10 10:46:47 2013 From: finance at lplouisiana.org (Wes Benedict) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 10:46:47 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - radio advertising In-Reply-To: <51646046.3040901@lplouisiana.org> References: <51646046.3040901@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <51658967.3000303@lplouisiana.org> I vote nay. I appreciate the effort and usually like to vote in favor of most things. However, as we've been putting out notices asking for urgent funds, I think spending on radio advertising is not appropriate. I also seriously doubt it will impact revenue at such an event. One potential way to still make it happen at significant personal risk -- whomever thinks it's a great idea can pay for it directly out of pocket. Then, if the booth raises plenty of money to cover the cost of the radio ad and booth plus some profit, let the committee know, give the funds to the treasurer, then ask the committee to consider reimbursing you. Just a suggestion. I've had a habit of paying for things out of pocket over the years to avoid hassles and hard feelings. --Wes Benedict Finance Officer Adrien Monteleone wrote, On 4/9/2013 1:39 PM: > To all SCC members, > > My apologies for the short deadline of this vote. I generally do not > prefer to make such a request. > > Our Elections officer Boyd Smith would like approval to spend party > funds on radio advertising our presence at the Ponchatoula Strawberry > Festival this weekend. (to encourage people to stop by, learn more, > and sign up as members and change voter registration to LP) > > He would like to run 1-2 commercials per day for Wednesday, Thursday & > Friday. (deadlines mean maybe only Thurs. and Fri. are available) > > The cost for 60 second spots is $75. > The cost for 30 second spots is $55. > > This includes production, but Boyd will be in charge of the script. > > The spots will be run during the John Osterlind and Denny Shaffer > shows on WRNO which have both been friendly to the LP. (I think > Osterlind already announced he is "libertarian" and endorsed Gary > Johnson last fall) Their audience is friendly to our message as well. > > On the short side, this will cost $165 for three 30 second spots, or > as much as $450 for six 60 second spots. > > It is estimated that this will increase traffic at the LP booth at the > festival by about 200 to even maybe 600 people. > > We would need to generate 7 new memberships to break even on the low > end, and 18 to break even on the high end. That would at worst be a > 10% conversion rate, and at best, only 1%. I think either number is > achievable. > > Additionally, if we vote to do this, donors can be targeted to pledge > the extra bucks to cover the cost so there is still no net loss to the > bank balance as of today. > > All those in favor of authorizing this expenditure please vote AYE as > soon as possible. 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URL: From chairman at lplouisiana.org Wed Apr 10 10:48:56 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 10:48:56 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - radio advertising In-Reply-To: <51658967.3000303@lplouisiana.org> References: <51646046.3040901@lplouisiana.org> <51658967.3000303@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <516589E8.2080908@lplouisiana.org> Thank you Wes, Vote received. I made a similar suggestion myself. This sounds like the way to go if the interested parties still want to do so. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 04/10/2013 10:46 AM, Wes Benedict wrote: > I vote nay. > > I appreciate the effort and usually like to vote in favor of most > things. However, as we've been putting out notices asking for urgent > funds, I think spending on radio advertising is not appropriate. I > also seriously doubt it will impact revenue at such an event. > > One potential way to still make it happen at significant personal risk > -- whomever thinks it's a great idea can pay for it directly out of > pocket. Then, if the booth raises plenty of money to cover the cost > of the radio ad and booth plus some profit, let the committee know, > give the funds to the treasurer, then ask the committee to consider > reimbursing you. Just a suggestion. I've had a habit of paying for > things out of pocket over the years to avoid hassles and hard feelings. > > --Wes Benedict > Finance Officer > > Adrien Monteleone wrote, On 4/9/2013 1:39 PM: >> To all SCC members, >> >> My apologies for the short deadline of this vote. I generally do not >> prefer to make such a request. >> >> Our Elections officer Boyd Smith would like approval to spend party >> funds on radio advertising our presence at the Ponchatoula Strawberry >> Festival this weekend. (to encourage people to stop by, learn more, >> and sign up as members and change voter registration to LP) >> >> He would like to run 1-2 commercials per day for Wednesday, Thursday >> & Friday. (deadlines mean maybe only Thurs. and Fri. are available) >> >> The cost for 60 second spots is $75. >> The cost for 30 second spots is $55. >> >> This includes production, but Boyd will be in charge of the script. >> >> The spots will be run during the John Osterlind and Denny Shaffer >> shows on WRNO which have both been friendly to the LP. (I think >> Osterlind already announced he is "libertarian" and endorsed Gary >> Johnson last fall) Their audience is friendly to our message as well. >> >> On the short side, this will cost $165 for three 30 second spots, or >> as much as $450 for six 60 second spots. >> >> It is estimated that this will increase traffic at the LP booth at >> the festival by about 200 to even maybe 600 people. >> >> We would need to generate 7 new memberships to break even on the low >> end, and 18 to break even on the high end. That would at worst be a >> 10% conversion rate, and at best, only 1%. I think either number is >> achievable. >> >> Additionally, if we vote to do this, donors can be targeted to pledge >> the extra bucks to cover the cost so there is still no net loss to >> the bank balance as of today. >> >> All those in favor of authorizing this expenditure please vote AYE as >> soon as possible. Time lost is time missed to run the spots and >> reach more people. >> >> Of course, our normal rules of 72 hours to vote still apply, but I >> urge you to get your vote in sooner if you are able. >> >> Now that we have 13 members on the Board, 7 will be needed for a >> quorum and a majority of those voting required for passage. >> >> If you intend to vote NAY, please also do that as soon as possible so >> we will know quickly if this measure would fail. >> >> >> >> -- >> -- In Liberty, >> >> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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To simply do this without consulting the person who sponsored the event doesn't seem right. Also I am assuming that the profits being spoken of are based on New dues paying Members gained? I am unsure of the basis for tracking that. It strikes me as being especially hard to track as we do not have a base line for this matter as it is our first time there. Additionally, If this event is successful and we voted to do this would, that not start the precedent for others that have funded materials for this event from seeking reimbursement from this? It was my understanding that since this was not an official event, that all materials would need to be generally self provided. It does not strike me as fair to those that worked hard and funded this event to not be reimbursed for their expense all so. People also need to consider the impact that this will have on future donations. IF we are having a funding issue relative to a proven commodity as Ms Adams and funding her contract to adequate levels, expenditures of such unproven items as Radio Spots will have a chilling effect on donations. I say this because I already know it has. A minimum of $4800 dollars in donations I had pledged towards the Executive Director's contract have been withdrawn. I can provide their names or many of them can speak up for themselves as most are members of this committee. I can only speak with certainty to my own $2000 donation. I am not comfortable with such a large sum being donated at once with the potentiality to be used so capriciously, especially since I was advised by the Chair that earmarked donations were not allowed legally and I am not comfortable with promises of funds to be returned if things changed. On 2013-04-10 10:48, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > Thank you Wes, > > Vote received. > > I made a similar suggestion myself. This sounds like the way to go > if the interested parties still want to do so. > > -- In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > On 04/10/2013 10:46 AM, Wes Benedict wrote: > >> I vote nay. >> >> I appreciate the effort and usually like to vote in favor of most >> things. However, as we've been putting out notices asking for urgent >> funds, I think spending on radio advertising is not appropriate. I >> also seriously doubt it will impact revenue at such an event. >> >> One potential way to still make it happen at significant personal >> risk -- whomever thinks it's a great idea can pay for it directly out >> of pocket. Then, if the booth raises plenty of money to cover the cost >> of the radio ad and booth plus some profit, let the committee know, >> give the funds to the treasurer, then ask the committee to consider >> reimbursing you. Just a suggestion. I've had a habit of paying for >> things out of pocket over the years to avoid hassles and hard >> feelings. >> >> --Wes Benedict >> Finance Officer >> >> Adrien Monteleone wrote, On 4/9/2013 1:39 PM: >> >>> To all SCC members, >>> >>> My apologies for the short deadline of this vote. I generally do >>> not prefer to make such a request. >>> >>> Our Elections officer Boyd Smith would like approval to spend party >>> funds on radio advertising our presence at the Ponchatoula Strawberry >>> Festival this weekend. (to encourage people to stop by, learn more, >>> and sign up as members and change voter registration to LP) >>> >>> He would like to run 1-2 commercials per day for Wednesday, >>> Thursday & Friday. (deadlines mean maybe only Thurs. and Fri. are >>> available) >>> >>> The cost for 60 second spots is $75. >>> The cost for 30 second spots is $55. >>> >>> This includes production, but Boyd will be in charge of the script. >>> >>> The spots will be run during the John Osterlind and Denny Shaffer >>> shows on WRNO which have both been friendly to the LP. (I think >>> Osterlind already announced he is "libertarian" and endorsed Gary >>> Johnson last fall) Their audience is friendly to our message as well. >>> >>> On the short side, this will cost $165 for three 30 second spots, >>> or as much as $450 for six 60 second spots. >>> >>> It is estimated that this will increase traffic at the LP booth at >>> the festival by about 200 to even maybe 600 people. >>> >>> We would need to generate 7 new memberships to break even on the >>> low end, and 18 to break even on the high end. That would at worst be >>> a 10% conversion rate, and at best, only 1%. I think either number is >>> achievable. >>> >>> Additionally, if we vote to do this, donors can be targeted to >>> pledge the extra bucks to cover the cost so there is still no net >>> loss to the bank balance as of today. >>> >>> All those in favor of authorizing this expenditure please vote AYE >>> as soon as possible. Time lost is time missed to run the spots and >>> reach more people. >>> >>> Of course, our normal rules of 72 hours to vote still apply, but I >>> urge you to get your vote in sooner if you are able. >>> >>> Now that we have 13 members on the Board, 7 will be needed for a >>> quorum and a majority of those voting required for passage. >>> >>> If you intend to vote NAY, please also do that as soon as possible >>> so we will know quickly if this measure would fail. >>> >>> -- >>> -- In Liberty, >>> >>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SCC mailing list >>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] > > > > Links: > ------ > [1] http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org From chairman at lplouisiana.org Wed Apr 10 11:51:09 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 11:51:09 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - radio advertising In-Reply-To: <3cc2dddd292183a97f5c81cfaddbee97@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> References: <51646046.3040901@lplouisiana.org> <51658967.3000303@lplouisiana.org> <516589E8.2080908@lplouisiana.org> <3cc2dddd292183a97f5c81cfaddbee97@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <5165987D.2080008@lplouisiana.org> The motion is moot. Voting is always open for 15 days because that is the best rule we have that applies. (from a rule for postal mail) Your vote is received and archived. The LPL is not prohibited from promoting LP events on its own. That has nothing to do with people putting on the event. A Board member who is involved with the event asked for this. We aren't reimbursing anyone. (if we had passed this) We would be spending the money on our own accord. The executive director contract is a significant part of our budget, but it is by no means the only item in the budget, and its existence does not preclude the party from spending on other projects it deems worthy or needed. The "funding issue" relative to the ED contract is more about problems with the terms of the contract, not dollar amounts. It has to do with what we have contracted for and what is being provided. As you noted and as I advised when I spoke to you in person - funds cannot be earmarked. At no point that I am aware of, has this Board officially requested donations for the sole purpose of paying for the ED's contract. We always attempt to raise funds generally to support ALL party activities and projects. (this was one of the reasons I asked you to remove the Facebook post, which I see is still there) If those donors wish to withdraw their pledges, they are free to do so. There is never to be any expectation that donated funds will go to a particular purpose. Donors either see what we are doing and they want to support that progress, or they do not. Donating in an attempt to influence future courses of action or in an attempt to restrict action to only those purposes is strictly out of the question. We welcome their support and input, but at the end of the day, the Board decides where the money goes. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 04/10/2013 11:28 AM, Daniel Hayes wrote: > Are we voting on this? I thought this item was withdrawn? > My vote is obviously Nay. > Also, has anyone asked the gentleman putting on the event? My > understanding was that this was being done by individuals and is not > an offical LPL event. Has that changed? Shouldn't the individuals > organizing and running an event be asked? To simply do this without > consulting the person who sponsored the event doesn't seem right. > Also I am assuming that the profits being spoken of are based on New > dues paying Members gained? I am unsure of the basis for tracking > that. It strikes me as being especially hard to track as we do not > have a base line for this matter as it is our first time there. > Additionally, If this event is successful and we voted to do this > would, that not start the precedent for others that have funded > materials for this event from seeking reimbursement from this? It was > my understanding that since this was not an official event, that all > materials would need to be generally self provided. It does not strike > me as fair to those that worked hard and funded this event to not be > reimbursed for their expense all so. People also need to consider the > impact that this will have on future donations. IF we are having a > funding issue relative to a proven commodity as Ms Adams and funding > her contract to adequate levels, expenditures of such unproven items > as Radio Spots will have a chilling effect on donations. I say this > because I already know it has. A minimum of $4800 dollars in donations > I had pledged towards the Executive Director's contract have been > withdrawn. I can provide their names or many of them can speak up for > themselves as most are members of this committee. I can only speak > with certainty to my own $2000 donation. I am not comfortable with > such a large sum being donated at once with the potentiality to be > used so capriciously, especially since I was advised by the Chair that > earmarked donations were not allowed legally and I am not comfortable > with promises of funds to be returned if things changed. > > On 2013-04-10 10:48, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >> Thank you Wes, >> >> Vote received. >> >> I made a similar suggestion myself. This sounds like the way to go >> if the interested parties still want to do so. >> >> -- In Liberty, >> >> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >> On 04/10/2013 10:46 AM, Wes Benedict wrote: >> >>> I vote nay. >>> >>> I appreciate the effort and usually like to vote in favor of most >>> things. However, as we've been putting out notices asking for urgent >>> funds, I think spending on radio advertising is not appropriate. I >>> also seriously doubt it will impact revenue at such an event. >>> >>> One potential way to still make it happen at significant personal >>> risk -- whomever thinks it's a great idea can pay for it directly >>> out of pocket. Then, if the booth raises plenty of money to cover >>> the cost of the radio ad and booth plus some profit, let the >>> committee know, give the funds to the treasurer, then ask the >>> committee to consider reimbursing you. Just a suggestion. I've had a >>> habit of paying for things out of pocket over the years to avoid >>> hassles and hard feelings. >>> >>> --Wes Benedict >>> Finance Officer >>> >>> Adrien Monteleone wrote, On 4/9/2013 1:39 PM: >>> >>>> To all SCC members, >>>> >>>> My apologies for the short deadline of this vote. I generally do >>>> not prefer to make such a request. >>>> >>>> Our Elections officer Boyd Smith would like approval to spend party >>>> funds on radio advertising our presence at the Ponchatoula >>>> Strawberry Festival this weekend. (to encourage people to stop by, >>>> learn more, and sign up as members and change voter registration to >>>> LP) >>>> >>>> He would like to run 1-2 commercials per day for Wednesday, >>>> Thursday & Friday. (deadlines mean maybe only Thurs. and Fri. are >>>> available) >>>> >>>> The cost for 60 second spots is $75. >>>> The cost for 30 second spots is $55. >>>> >>>> This includes production, but Boyd will be in charge of the script. >>>> >>>> The spots will be run during the John Osterlind and Denny Shaffer >>>> shows on WRNO which have both been friendly to the LP. (I think >>>> Osterlind already announced he is "libertarian" and endorsed Gary >>>> Johnson last fall) Their audience is friendly to our message as well. >>>> >>>> On the short side, this will cost $165 for three 30 second spots, >>>> or as much as $450 for six 60 second spots. >>>> >>>> It is estimated that this will increase traffic at the LP booth at >>>> the festival by about 200 to even maybe 600 people. >>>> >>>> We would need to generate 7 new memberships to break even on the >>>> low end, and 18 to break even on the high end. That would at worst >>>> be a 10% conversion rate, and at best, only 1%. I think either >>>> number is achievable. >>>> >>>> Additionally, if we vote to do this, donors can be targeted to >>>> pledge the extra bucks to cover the cost so there is still no net >>>> loss to the bank balance as of today. >>>> >>>> All those in favor of authorizing this expenditure please vote AYE >>>> as soon as possible. Time lost is time missed to run the spots and >>>> reach more people. >>>> >>>> Of course, our normal rules of 72 hours to vote still apply, but I >>>> urge you to get your vote in sooner if you are able. >>>> >>>> Now that we have 13 members on the Board, 7 will be needed for a >>>> quorum and a majority of those voting required for passage. >>>> >>>> If you intend to vote NAY, please also do that as soon as possible >>>> so we will know quickly if this measure would fail. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> -- In Liberty, >>>> >>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SCC mailing list >>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SCC mailing list >>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >> >> >> >> Links: >> ------ >> [1] http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I do want to offer some parting advice. Many Libertarian Party state affiliates are highly active with internal fighting. It seems to happen very frequently all around the country. I encourage you to go out of your way to be nice to each other--a few notches nicer than you think seems appropriate. Pretend if you have to. It can be contagious. And when someone does something that offends you, give them a pass most of the time. There's something inherently explosive and implosive about state Libertarian affiliates. It takes hard work to be able to stick together and work together. When you can't work together, I encourage you to find ways to work separately, rather than against each other. I appreciate the time and expense you all incur working to build the Libertarian Party in Louisiana. I hope you all keep up the great work. I'm still excited about the recent growth of the Libertarian Party in Louisiana and will do my best to help pull the weight here in Baton Rouge. --Wes Benedict Finance Committee Officer From chairman at lplouisiana.org Wed Apr 10 12:02:28 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 12:02:28 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] to resign from finance position In-Reply-To: <51659914.3040001@lplouisiana.org> References: <5161DCA7.5090304@lplouisiana.org> <51659914.3040001@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <51659B24.2040401@lplouisiana.org> Thank you Wes for your service to the LPL, and for your seasoned advice and guidance. I look forward to working with you in the future on the local level where our paths cross again. Have a safe and productive trip to Utah. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 04/10/2013 11:53 AM, Wes Benedict wrote: > Board of Directors, > > I intend to resign from the finance officer position and from the > finance committee effective 4/12/2013 at 11:59 PM. I am resigning due > to personal time constraints and the increasing time the position has > required. I plan to focus more of my volunteer time on the East Baton > Rouge Parish Libertarians. I will not be at the state committee > meeting this Saturday. I'll be at a conference set up by Gary > Johnson's Our America Initiative in Salt Lake City instead. > > I do want to offer some parting advice. Many Libertarian Party state > affiliates are highly active with internal fighting. It seems to > happen very frequently all around the country. I encourage you to go > out of your way to be nice to each other--a few notches nicer than you > think seems appropriate. Pretend if you have to. It can be > contagious. And when someone does something that offends you, give > them a pass most of the time. There's something inherently explosive > and implosive about state Libertarian affiliates. It takes hard work > to be able to stick together and work together. When you can't work > together, I encourage you to find ways to work separately, rather than > against each other. > > I appreciate the time and expense you all incur working to build the > Libertarian Party in Louisiana. I hope you all keep up the great > work. I'm still excited about the recent growth of the Libertarian > Party in Louisiana and will do my best to help pull the weight here in > Baton Rouge. > > --Wes Benedict > Finance Committee Officer > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: chairman.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 297 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Paladin at LPLouisiana.org Wed Apr 10 12:13:49 2013 From: Paladin at LPLouisiana.org (T Lee Horne III) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 13:13:49 -0400 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] This is only indirectly related to the "Motion from the Chair" In-Reply-To: <516504DC.7070209@lplouisiana.org> References: <516504DC.7070209@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <000001ce360e$c5980740$50c815c0$@org> The words of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. are as poignant today as they were in the 1960's: "We must learn to live together as brothers [and sisters] or perish together as fools." I quote the following three paragraphs from a previous email. "Today, those that wish to establish global control use religion, ethnicity, sexuality, politics, income gaps and more to keep people seeing each other as the enemy when the real enemy is Big Government. If you truly wish to combat the ones trying to establish and entrench themselves as the ruling elite of the globe, all it takes is loving kindness towards your fellow human beings. Even if you do not agree with all of their opinions. Support their earthly right to have it and turn your aim towards the true enemy of the people, Big Government in all its forms. Only together can we defeat the true enemy of individual liberty, freedom and civil rights." In an earlier much longer communication I attempted to bring this point across. As near as I can tell many did not read it, as only 3 of my requests for voluntary receipt and read confirmation were returned. I believe we have good officers. I believe in diplomacy. I believe in quiet communications to resolve internal issues. I believe fights and bluster and attacks, if done are to be external to the party. The board has predominately done very well in this respect. Some are young and impatient, I encourage your idealism and urge you to present solutions and facts rather than just pointing out a problem, and attacking the person who presented a fact which may be in question. Good people make mistakes. None of us is immune from error. As has been pointed out in more than one occasion, the last convention was not well attended. The officers have do all they could to remedy that. The party has grown dramatically. Internal bickering, personal attacks, all are detrimental. Please, I implore all of you, save the vitriol for our political opponents. Accept that there is no perfect Libertarian. Personally, if a person can agree with me on some points and work with me on those, I am glad for the help. I believe the party would be well advised to adopt the same pattern. T Lee Horne, III Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 From chairman at lplouisiana.org Wed Apr 10 12:18:40 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 12:18:40 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - radio advertising In-Reply-To: References: <51646046.3040901@lplouisiana.org> <1365534357.58710.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <5164782A.2080104@lplouisiana.org> <1365544634.38375.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51649225.60206@lplouisiana.org> <5164ABB1.6030108@lplouisiana.org> <1365552447.72412.YahooMailNeo@web161904.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <541ee454ed6414bd580f7af2698c2f7d@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> <79189d2115b4905f02b9419858158a2b@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> <5164FC53.5080601@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <51659EF0.1080604@lplouisiana.org> Any Board member can at any time view the Mailing list archives at: http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org The introductory email for the Mailing list you received should have contained a link to this page along with your temporary password. Log in, change your password and settings if you prefer. Once you are logged in, you can click the link for SCC Archives, where you can read all messages ever posted to the list, even those long before you became a member. The threads are divided by Quarter. Each one is listed by subject line. I'm not sure exactly what point the reps were copied in on the thread, but I think there were about 5 or 6 messages between myself, Boyd Smith, and Keith Thompson regarding a question on price of production being included, and on the script for the ad. As well, I believe four votes had been recorded by that point - Mr. Smith, Mr. Thompson, Mr. Kearney and Mr. Ebarb. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 04/10/2013 03:32 AM, Daniel Hayes wrote: > > Mr Chairman, > I request a point of information. The email chain suggests there > was voting and discussion prior to the new SCC reps being added to the > thread with their addition to the mailing group for LPL Board of > Directors. I would like all those emails forwarded to those of us that > were added later. > > On 2013-04-10 00:44, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >> Mr. Hayes, >> >> The tone of the present thread seems to be entirely of your doing >> sir. You started it off. Please cease. >> >> Same to you Mr. Ebarb. Enough. >> >> None of this is productive. >> >> Mr. Hayes, I'm not sure what your issue is with "transparency." I've >> not been requested for any information that I'm aware of that I >> haven't responded to. Anything you want to know about how the party is >> operated, feel free to ask. >> >> I've addressed your insinuations of lack of professionalism in >> another response. >> >> In Liberty, >> >> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >> >> On 4/10/13 12:12 AM, Daniel Hayes wrote: >> >>> Reed, >>> I was elected to represent my parish, not to sit back and watch how >>> "the good ol' boys" do things. I do ask questions and I get snarky >>> flippant responses from you and others. The lack of transparency and >>> professionalism in a Libertarian organization is appalling. Your >>> last 2 emails to me have directly insulted me. You have implied I >>> was a liar and you have called me ignorant. I am well aware of the >>> proper use of the word but the fact that you used it to reference me >>> twice in the same post is rather troubling. Is this the normal >>> nature of the correspondence from officers to new SCC members and >>> among each other? You tell me to quit complaining when I was >>> objecting to improper notification of SCC members as they were not >>> included in the mail relative to this and I was voicing my concerns >>> over expending hard fought over funding. Your efforts in the past >>> did help us to get here but to imply that I am any less able to >>> understand the matters at hand is frankly troubling. Also, to imply >>> that this party is strong and large at this point? 7600 members?No >>> elected officials but a few small seats that nobody ran for? Maybe >>> the Rithmetic classes down in south Louisiana aren't up to par with >>> those in the north..but I just don't see that assertion...Also, >>> Please stick to one Email address(out of your Reed Ebarb-secretary >>> address and this one as acting treasurer) as it could seem that you >>> were trying to create the appearance that more than one officer was >>> supporting your own position. >>> >>> Also >>> On 2013-04-09 23:36, treasurer at lplouisiana.org wrote: >>> >>>> Mr. Hayes, >>>> I strongly suggest you take a back seat over the next month and learn >>>> how things are done before attempting to come in and change >>>> everything. When I joined the party in early 2012, we had less than >>>> 10 people at the convention, no candidates, and no income. A year >>>> later, look where we are. Many things would not be possible today >>>> without the relentless, determined work of a few, unpaid, party >>>> officers. >>>> >>>> Before you change things, I highly suggest you take a back seat to >>>> how things are run and ask why things are a certain way before you >>>> attempt to change something you don't understand. You are ignorant to >>>> how things came to be this way and why certain decisions were made. >>>> Asking and learning tend to help one make an informed decision. >>>> >>>> Your ignorance will cause the Party much trouble over the next few >>>> months >>>> as you try to change everything to suit you. Learn and ask. The Party >>>> didn't become this strong and large without a few intelligent beings >>>> running it. >>>> >>>>> Reed, >>>>> You essentially just called me a liar. It is not productive or >>>>> appreciated. The numbers I were quoting came from my recollection >>>>> of a >>>>> conversation I had with chuck Saucier the organizer of the event: >>>>> >>>>> "March 13 >>>>> Chuck..are you going to make it to the State Central committee >>>>> meeting >>>>> in NOLA April 13th at noon? >>>>> 9:12am >>>>> Still hopin to be working for the Libertarian party at the Strawberry >>>>> Festival that weekend...Its an event that draws 500,000+ people" >>>>> >>>>> For the purpose of my point did it really matter? I can copy and >>>>> paste >>>>> the Email and send it to anyone that cares to see it on facebook >>>>> with my >>>>> pictures and chuck's sitting right in the mail. I also just got >>>>> off the >>>>> phone with Chuck and when I told him that we were voting on >>>>> whether or >>>>> not to do radio advertisement for the Festival..he interrupted me and >>>>> said he didn't think that would be a good investment. Anybody that >>>>> cares >>>>> to call him and check this is welcome. I also told him with a >>>>> laugh that >>>>> he got me "called out" over the numbers he gave to me on March >>>>> 13th..and >>>>> he said the numbers vary on where you look and from year to year and >>>>> that the estimates do range upwards of 500,000 people. I suggest >>>>> in the >>>>> future actually picking up the phone and talking to the people >>>>> organizing an event before making plans relative to that event to get >>>>> their input and perspective. >>>>> >>>>> The fact that the Chairman had not made sure that the Reps have been >>>>> notified and are up to speed on this email system before springing >>>>> this >>>>> hasty vote is problematic and I believe Mr Salgado has yet to receive >>>>> any Email at all because the party has the wrong address. There is a >>>>> reason why Robert's frowns upon email voting..and the problems >>>>> arising >>>>> in this vote are why. >>>>> >>>>> Additionally, the suggestion that I support someone else's project >>>>> just >>>>> so that I get my own project in the future supported is rather >>>>> troubling. Isn't that the sort of behavior that we are supposed to be >>>>> working against? Also, to say that I am complaining...I thought I was >>>>> engaged in discussion. Maybe if things had been done properly >>>>> relative >>>>> to notifying the new Reps there wouldn't have been anything to >>>>> object to >>>>> on that regard. I frankly am taken aback at the VERY unprofessional >>>>> attitude I have been greeted with here. It's such a shame that one of >>>>> the only true professionals I have encountered in the party, Wes >>>>> Benedict, is resigning this Friday. His presence will be truly >>>>> missed. >>>>> >>>>> On 2013-04-09 21:44, Reed Ebarb wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Mr. Hayes, I am an adamant fact checker and your 500,000 is a VERY >>>>>> inflated number. Do not feed false facts to this mailing list or I >>>>>> will >>>>>> call you out on it EVERY SINGLE TIME. Next time you want to make >>>>>> things >>>>>> up, don't send it to me. I believe Adrien already said something to >>>>>> this >>>>>> effect but I do not think it neccessary for you to speak for people >>>>>> already on the mailing list. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you believe we should spend on something else, PLEASE make a >>>>>> motion. >>>>>> Otherwise, stop complaining. I don't have time or patience for it. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On this matter..this is like advertising that we will be going door >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> door. The Strawberry Festival itself is the advertisement. It >>>>>>> attracts >>>>>>> 500,000 people over the 3 days that it runs..its the largest >>>>>>> festival in >>>>>>> the state. All we will be doing is spending our money to advertise >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> the Strawberry Festival. Nobody is going the head to the Festival >>>>>>> from >>>>>>> New Orleans where the show airs just to go to the Libertarian Party >>>>>>> booth. Money would have been better spent on professional >>>>>>> literature >>>>>>> with our contact information to pass out at the Festival. David >>>>>>> Mounts >>>>>>> was prepared to buy some of this out of his own pocket to the tune >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> about $700 but I think this suggestion has him so frustrated >>>>>>> that he >>>>>>> has >>>>>>> decided to not do so. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2013-04-09 19:30, Daniel Hayes wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have to strongly object to this proceeding as most of the Reps >>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>> the parishes have not had a chance to even get into their Emails. >>>>>>>> We >>>>>>>> also need some time for discussion. This is hasty and ill advised. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 2013-04-09 19:07, Boyd Smith wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Is Daniel Hayes on the list? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jefferson Parish. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> bws >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> FROM: Adrien Monteleone >>>>>>>>> TO: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors >>>>>>>>> SENT: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 7:00 PM >>>>>>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - >>>>>>>>> urgent >>>>>>>>> - radio advertising >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> They vote on all items. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> They are on this list. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- In Liberty, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>>>>>> On 04/09/2013 06:49 PM, Keith Thompson wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm still ignorant of the rules for this sort of thing. Is this >>>>>>>>>> something that the parish reps should vote on as well? Or do >>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>> vote on all items? >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>> - Keith >>>>>>>>>> On 2013-04-09 17:11, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> As of right now, there are 4 votes. three more are needed for a >>>>>>>>>>> quorum. If they are "Aye" then there is an absolute majority >>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>> passes. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I will not vote until two more "Aye" votes are in. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- In Liberty, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>>>>>>>> On 04/09/2013 04:57 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Like it. Much better. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> bws >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> FROM: Adrien Monteleone mailto:chairman at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>>>>> TO: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors >>>>>>>>>>>> mailto:scc at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>>>>> SENT: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 3:20 PM >>>>>>>>>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - >>>>>>>>>>>> urgent - radio advertising >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> That text looks good. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't help myself and tweaked it a bit. (attached) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> These are just suggestions. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I timed it right short of 30 seconds. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- In Liberty, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>>>>>>>>> On 04/09/2013 02:05 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The same. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Look this over and give what ever improvements that you can, >>>>>>>>>>>>> please. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> bws >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> FROM: Keith Thompson mailto:media at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> TO: scc at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> SENT: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 1:55 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - >>>>>>>>>>>>> urgent - radio advertising >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Would we get a better rate if we produced the spot? Or is it >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> same cost regardless of production? >>>>>>>>>>>>> - Keith >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2013-04-09 13:39, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To all SCC members, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> My apologies for the short deadline of this vote. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> generally >>>>>>>>>>>>>> do not prefer to make such a request. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Our Elections officer Boyd Smith would like approval to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> spend >>>>>>>>>>>>>> party funds on radio advertising our presence at the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ponchatoula >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Strawberry Festival this weekend. (to encourage people to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> stop >>>>>>>>>>>>>> by, learn more, and sign up as members and change voter >>>>>>>>>>>>>> registration to LP) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> He would like to run 1-2 commercials per day for Wednesday, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thursday & Friday. (deadlines mean maybe only Thurs. and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fri. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>>>> available) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The cost for 60 second spots is $75. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The cost for 30 second spots is $55. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This includes production, but Boyd will be in charge of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> script. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The spots will be run during the John Osterlind and Denny >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shaffer shows on WRNO which have both been friendly to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> LP. (I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> think Osterlind already announced he is "libertarian" and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> endorsed Gary Johnson last fall) Their audience is friendly >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> our message as well. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On the short side, this will cost $165 for three 30 second >>>>>>>>>>>>>> spots, or as much as $450 for six 60 second spots. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is estimated that this will increase traffic at the LP >>>>>>>>>>>>>> booth >>>>>>>>>>>>>> at the festival by about 200 to even maybe 600 people. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> We would need to generate 7 new memberships to break even on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the low end, and 18 to break even on the high end. That >>>>>>>>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>> worst be a 10% conversion rate, and at best, only 1%. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> think >>>>>>>>>>>>>> either number is achievable. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Additionally, if we vote to do this, donors can be targeted >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> pledge the extra bucks to cover the cost so there is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> still no >>>>>>>>>>>>>> net >>>>>>>>>>>>>> loss to the bank balance as of today. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> All those in favor of authorizing this expenditure please >>>>>>>>>>>>>> vote >>>>>>>>>>>>>> AYE as soon as possible. Time lost is time missed to run the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> spots and reach more people. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course, our normal rules of 72 hours to vote still apply, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> but I urge you to get your vote in sooner if you are able. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now that we have 13 members on the Board, 7 will be needed >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a quorum and a majority of those voting required for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> passage. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you intend to vote NAY, please also do that as soon as >>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible so we will know quickly if this measure would fail. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- In Liberty, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>>>>> [1] [1] >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>>>>> [1] [1] >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>>>> [1] [1] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>> [1] [1] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Links: >>>>>>>>> ------ >>>>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>>>> >>>>>> If you have not already done so, please consider becoming a dues >>>>>> member of >>>>>> the Libertarian Party of Louisiana by visiting >>>>>> louisianalibertarian.net >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SCC mailing list >>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SCC mailing list >>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >> >> >> >> Links: >> ------ >> [1] http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Even if you do not agree with all of their > opinions. Support their earthly right to have it and turn your aim towards > the true enemy of the people, Big Government in all its forms. > Only together can we defeat the true enemy of individual liberty, > freedom and civil rights." > > In an earlier much longer communication I attempted to bring this point > across. As near as I can tell many did not read it, as only 3 of my requests > for voluntary receipt and read confirmation were returned. > > I believe we have good officers. I believe in diplomacy. I believe in quiet > communications to resolve internal issues. I believe fights and bluster and > attacks, if done are to be external to the party. > > The board has predominately done very well in this respect. Some are young > and impatient, I encourage your idealism and urge you to present solutions > and facts rather than just pointing out a problem, and attacking the person > who presented a fact which may be in question. Good people make mistakes. > None of us is immune from error. > > As has been pointed out in more than one occasion, the last convention was > not well attended. The officers have do all they could to remedy that. The > party has grown dramatically. > > Internal bickering, personal attacks, all are detrimental. Please, I implore > all of you, save the vitriol for our political opponents. Accept that there > is no perfect Libertarian. Personally, if a person can agree with me on some > points and work with me on those, I am glad for the help. 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Name: chairman.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 297 bytes Desc: not available URL: From treasurer at sainttammany.lplouisiana.org Wed Apr 10 13:10:47 2013 From: treasurer at sainttammany.lplouisiana.org (treasurer at sainttammany.lplouisiana.org) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 13:10:47 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] to resign from finance position In-Reply-To: <51659914.3040001@lplouisiana.org> References: <5161DCA7.5090304@lplouisiana.org> <51659914.3040001@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <509c6e56798000d6fb67273fd47a45ed@sainttammany.lplouisiana.org> "I encourage you to go out of your way to be nice to each other--a few notches nicer than you think seems appropriate. Pretend if you have to." Bravo... On 2013-04-10 11:53, Wes Benedict wrote: > Board of Directors, > > I intend to resign from the finance officer position and from the > finance committee effective 4/12/2013 at 11:59 PM. I am resigning > due > to personal time constraints and the increasing time the position has > required. I plan to focus more of my volunteer time on the East Baton > Rouge Parish Libertarians. I will not be at the state committee > meeting this Saturday. I'll be at a conference set up by Gary > Johnson's Our America Initiative in Salt Lake City instead. > > I do want to offer some parting advice. Many Libertarian Party state > affiliates are highly active with internal fighting. It seems to > happen very frequently all around the country. I encourage you to go > out of your way to be nice to each other--a few notches nicer than > you > think seems appropriate. Pretend if you have to. It can be > contagious. And when someone does something that offends you, give > them a pass most of the time. There's something inherently explosive > and implosive about state Libertarian affiliates. It takes hard work > to be able to stick together and work together. When you can't work > together, I encourage you to find ways to work separately, rather > than > against each other. > > I appreciate the time and expense you all incur working to build the > Libertarian Party in Louisiana. I hope you all keep up the great > work. > I'm still excited about the recent growth of the Libertarian Party in > Louisiana and will do my best to help pull the weight here in Baton > Rouge. > > --Wes Benedict > Finance Committee Officer > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org From boydw.smith at yahoo.com Wed Apr 10 13:21:01 2013 From: boydw.smith at yahoo.com (Boyd Smith) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 11:21:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] to resign from finance position In-Reply-To: <509c6e56798000d6fb67273fd47a45ed@sainttammany.lplouisiana.org> References: <5161DCA7.5090304@lplouisiana.org> <51659914.3040001@lplouisiana.org> <509c6e56798000d6fb67273fd47a45ed@sainttammany.lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <1365618061.36230.YahooMailNeo@web161902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> True dat!? As my daughter is fond of saying. ? bws From: "treasurer at sainttammany.lplouisiana.org" To: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] to resign from finance position "I encourage you to go out of your way to be nice to each other--a few notches nicer than you think seems appropriate.? Pretend if you have to." Bravo... On 2013-04-10 11:53, Wes Benedict wrote: > Board of Directors, > > I intend to resign from the finance officer position and from the > finance committee effective 4/12/2013 at 11:59 PM.? I am resigning due > to personal time constraints and the increasing time the position has > required. I plan to focus more of my volunteer time on the East Baton > Rouge Parish Libertarians. I will not be at the state committee > meeting this Saturday. I'll be at a conference set up by Gary > Johnson's Our America Initiative in Salt Lake City instead. > > I do want to offer some parting advice.? Many Libertarian Party state > affiliates are highly active with internal fighting.? It seems to > happen very frequently all around the country.? I encourage you to go > out of your way to be nice to each other--a few notches nicer than you > think seems appropriate.? Pretend if you have to.? It can be > contagious.? And when someone does something that offends you, give > them a pass most of the time.? There's something inherently explosive > and implosive about state Libertarian affiliates.? It takes hard work > to be able to stick together and work together. When you can't work > together, I encourage you to find ways to work separately, rather than > against each other. > > I appreciate the time and expense you all incur working to build the > Libertarian Party in Louisiana. I hope you all keep up the great work. > I'm still excited about the recent growth of the Libertarian Party in > Louisiana and will do my best to help pull the weight here in Baton > Rouge. > > --Wes Benedict > Finance Committee Officer > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From secretary at lplouisiana.org Wed Apr 10 14:41:17 2013 From: secretary at lplouisiana.org (Reed Ebarb) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 14:41:17 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Advertising In-Reply-To: <51657C80.2050401@lplouisiana.org> References: <5c43b8e78ca956b7c28fef82fd5dbe88.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> <1365602539.24607.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51657C80.2050401@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <8303f9ba241154f6ff95d06bbcf1515f.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> You make a really good point Boyd. At this next meeting, lets rework our budget and look at cutting our costs so we can put more money into advertising. > I agree 100%. > > -- In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > On 04/10/2013 09:02 AM, Boyd Smith wrote: >> Here is an issue that we are going to have to make room for in the >> meeting Saturday. And I will do as much as I can to make the part >> that may take up time that we need take as little time as possible and >> to make it be as painless and actually productive as possible. But >> the issue relates to growing the party and performing advertising. >> We will need to engage in actual advertising in some markets to both >> grow the party, the PECs and the local base. We will also likely have >> to engage in advertising to gather the support/people necessary to >> form PECs in some parishes. Calcasieu is one of those special cases. >> We do not have the luxury of waiting till we have 64 or even 10 PECs >> formed. There is a momentum that we have to maintain to continue >> building the party. We are at 7550 (approximately) we could very well >> get to 8500 from events like the Strawberry Festival, Gun Shows and >> even word of mouth. But, I think the limit of that is going to be >> around 9000 - 10,000. In order to become a viable force in this state >> for politics, for reform, and for liberty, we will need to get to >> 25,000+. And that is going to be only a start. We are #3 now. I >> want to be #1. I want to be able to look at the Elected Officials >> Database and see Libertarians in elective office all across the state. >> To get candidates who can make a serious run at some of the higher >> offices in the state (parish council/police jury, state rep, state >> senate, congress, US Senate, Governor, ect) we need a large membership >> base. To get a large membership base we will have to sell what we >> have and what we have is ideas. Good ideas, yes. But ideas - and >> ideas while bullet proof are abstract concepts. They are not a hard >> item like a vacuumcleaner or a tangible service like massage therapy. >> They require propagation/marketing/advertising and we are getting >> close to the point where we are going to have to market our ideas and >> that is going to require an actual marketing campaign and advertising. >> Boyd W. Smith >> Elections Officer >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > If you have not already done so, please consider becoming a dues member of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana by visiting louisianalibertarian.net From secretary at lplouisiana.org Wed Apr 10 14:49:14 2013 From: secretary at lplouisiana.org (Reed Ebarb) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 14:49:14 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - urgent - radio advertising In-Reply-To: <51659EF0.1080604@lplouisiana.org> References: <51646046.3040901@lplouisiana.org> <1365534357.58710.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <5164782A.2080104@lplouisiana.org> <1365544634.38375.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51649225.60206@lplouisiana.org> <5164ABB1.6030108@lplouisiana.org> <1365552447.72412.YahooMailNeo@web161904.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <541ee454ed6414bd580f7af2698c2f7d@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> <79189d2115b4905f02b9419858158a2b@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> <5164FC53.5080601@lplouisiana.org> <51659EF0.1080604@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <66b29a3c2c5133f0704d50871af26208.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> Mr. Hayes, I will add that a budget was passed at the first meeting for the sole purpose of governing the spending of our money. If we start to overspend in a certain area, we need to cut the spending in that area. Our 1st quarter projections were on pace for what we wanted and therefore, the budget should be followed whenever possible. Since we are overspending in certain areas of our budget, I will propose we cut our spending at the next meeting. > Any Board member can at any time view the Mailing list archives at: > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > The introductory email for the Mailing list you received should have > contained a link to this page along with your temporary password. > > Log in, change your password and settings if you prefer. > > Once you are logged in, you can click the link for SCC Archives, where > you can read all messages ever posted to the list, even those long > before you became a member. > > The threads are divided by Quarter. Each one is listed by subject > line. I'm not sure exactly what point the reps were copied in on the > thread, but I think there were about 5 or 6 messages between myself, > Boyd Smith, and Keith Thompson regarding a question on price of > production being included, and on the script for the ad. As well, I > believe four votes had been recorded by that point - Mr. Smith, Mr. > Thompson, Mr. Kearney and Mr. Ebarb. > > > -- In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > On 04/10/2013 03:32 AM, Daniel Hayes wrote: >> >> Mr Chairman, >> I request a point of information. The email chain suggests there >> was voting and discussion prior to the new SCC reps being added to the >> thread with their addition to the mailing group for LPL Board of >> Directors. I would like all those emails forwarded to those of us that >> were added later. >> >> On 2013-04-10 00:44, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >>> Mr. Hayes, >>> >>> The tone of the present thread seems to be entirely of your doing >>> sir. You started it off. Please cease. >>> >>> Same to you Mr. Ebarb. Enough. >>> >>> None of this is productive. >>> >>> Mr. Hayes, I'm not sure what your issue is with "transparency." I've >>> not been requested for any information that I'm aware of that I >>> haven't responded to. Anything you want to know about how the party is >>> operated, feel free to ask. >>> >>> I've addressed your insinuations of lack of professionalism in >>> another response. >>> >>> In Liberty, >>> >>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>> >>> On 4/10/13 12:12 AM, Daniel Hayes wrote: >>> >>>> Reed, >>>> I was elected to represent my parish, not to sit back and watch how >>>> "the good ol' boys" do things. I do ask questions and I get snarky >>>> flippant responses from you and others. The lack of transparency and >>>> professionalism in a Libertarian organization is appalling. Your >>>> last 2 emails to me have directly insulted me. You have implied I >>>> was a liar and you have called me ignorant. I am well aware of the >>>> proper use of the word but the fact that you used it to reference me >>>> twice in the same post is rather troubling. Is this the normal >>>> nature of the correspondence from officers to new SCC members and >>>> among each other? You tell me to quit complaining when I was >>>> objecting to improper notification of SCC members as they were not >>>> included in the mail relative to this and I was voicing my concerns >>>> over expending hard fought over funding. Your efforts in the past >>>> did help us to get here but to imply that I am any less able to >>>> understand the matters at hand is frankly troubling. Also, to imply >>>> that this party is strong and large at this point? 7600 members?No >>>> elected officials but a few small seats that nobody ran for? Maybe >>>> the Rithmetic classes down in south Louisiana aren't up to par with >>>> those in the north..but I just don't see that assertion...Also, >>>> Please stick to one Email address(out of your Reed Ebarb-secretary >>>> address and this one as acting treasurer) as it could seem that you >>>> were trying to create the appearance that more than one officer was >>>> supporting your own position. >>>> >>>> Also >>>> On 2013-04-09 23:36, treasurer at lplouisiana.org wrote: >>>> >>>>> Mr. Hayes, >>>>> I strongly suggest you take a back seat over the next month and learn >>>>> how things are done before attempting to come in and change >>>>> everything. When I joined the party in early 2012, we had less than >>>>> 10 people at the convention, no candidates, and no income. A year >>>>> later, look where we are. Many things would not be possible today >>>>> without the relentless, determined work of a few, unpaid, party >>>>> officers. >>>>> >>>>> Before you change things, I highly suggest you take a back seat to >>>>> how things are run and ask why things are a certain way before you >>>>> attempt to change something you don't understand. You are ignorant to >>>>> how things came to be this way and why certain decisions were made. >>>>> Asking and learning tend to help one make an informed decision. >>>>> >>>>> Your ignorance will cause the Party much trouble over the next few >>>>> months >>>>> as you try to change everything to suit you. Learn and ask. The Party >>>>> didn't become this strong and large without a few intelligent beings >>>>> running it. >>>>> >>>>>> Reed, >>>>>> You essentially just called me a liar. It is not productive or >>>>>> appreciated. The numbers I were quoting came from my recollection >>>>>> of a >>>>>> conversation I had with chuck Saucier the organizer of the event: >>>>>> >>>>>> "March 13 >>>>>> Chuck..are you going to make it to the State Central committee >>>>>> meeting >>>>>> in NOLA April 13th at noon? >>>>>> 9:12am >>>>>> Still hopin to be working for the Libertarian party at the >>>>>> Strawberry >>>>>> Festival that weekend...Its an event that draws 500,000+ people" >>>>>> >>>>>> For the purpose of my point did it really matter? I can copy and >>>>>> paste >>>>>> the Email and send it to anyone that cares to see it on facebook >>>>>> with my >>>>>> pictures and chuck's sitting right in the mail. I also just got >>>>>> off the >>>>>> phone with Chuck and when I told him that we were voting on >>>>>> whether or >>>>>> not to do radio advertisement for the Festival..he interrupted me >>>>>> and >>>>>> said he didn't think that would be a good investment. Anybody that >>>>>> cares >>>>>> to call him and check this is welcome. I also told him with a >>>>>> laugh that >>>>>> he got me "called out" over the numbers he gave to me on March >>>>>> 13th..and >>>>>> he said the numbers vary on where you look and from year to year and >>>>>> that the estimates do range upwards of 500,000 people. I suggest >>>>>> in the >>>>>> future actually picking up the phone and talking to the people >>>>>> organizing an event before making plans relative to that event to >>>>>> get >>>>>> their input and perspective. >>>>>> >>>>>> The fact that the Chairman had not made sure that the Reps have been >>>>>> notified and are up to speed on this email system before springing >>>>>> this >>>>>> hasty vote is problematic and I believe Mr Salgado has yet to >>>>>> receive >>>>>> any Email at all because the party has the wrong address. There is a >>>>>> reason why Robert's frowns upon email voting..and the problems >>>>>> arising >>>>>> in this vote are why. >>>>>> >>>>>> Additionally, the suggestion that I support someone else's project >>>>>> just >>>>>> so that I get my own project in the future supported is rather >>>>>> troubling. Isn't that the sort of behavior that we are supposed to >>>>>> be >>>>>> working against? Also, to say that I am complaining...I thought I >>>>>> was >>>>>> engaged in discussion. Maybe if things had been done properly >>>>>> relative >>>>>> to notifying the new Reps there wouldn't have been anything to >>>>>> object to >>>>>> on that regard. I frankly am taken aback at the VERY unprofessional >>>>>> attitude I have been greeted with here. It's such a shame that one >>>>>> of >>>>>> the only true professionals I have encountered in the party, Wes >>>>>> Benedict, is resigning this Friday. His presence will be truly >>>>>> missed. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2013-04-09 21:44, Reed Ebarb wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Mr. Hayes, I am an adamant fact checker and your 500,000 is a VERY >>>>>>> inflated number. Do not feed false facts to this mailing list or I >>>>>>> will >>>>>>> call you out on it EVERY SINGLE TIME. Next time you want to make >>>>>>> things >>>>>>> up, don't send it to me. I believe Adrien already said something to >>>>>>> this >>>>>>> effect but I do not think it neccessary for you to speak for people >>>>>>> already on the mailing list. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you believe we should spend on something else, PLEASE make a >>>>>>> motion. >>>>>>> Otherwise, stop complaining. I don't have time or patience for it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On this matter..this is like advertising that we will be going >>>>>>>> door >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> door. The Strawberry Festival itself is the advertisement. It >>>>>>>> attracts >>>>>>>> 500,000 people over the 3 days that it runs..its the largest >>>>>>>> festival in >>>>>>>> the state. All we will be doing is spending our money to advertise >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> the Strawberry Festival. Nobody is going the head to the Festival >>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>> New Orleans where the show airs just to go to the Libertarian >>>>>>>> Party >>>>>>>> booth. Money would have been better spent on professional >>>>>>>> literature >>>>>>>> with our contact information to pass out at the Festival. David >>>>>>>> Mounts >>>>>>>> was prepared to buy some of this out of his own pocket to the tune >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> about $700 but I think this suggestion has him so frustrated >>>>>>>> that he >>>>>>>> has >>>>>>>> decided to not do so. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 2013-04-09 19:30, Daniel Hayes wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have to strongly object to this proceeding as most of the Reps >>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>> the parishes have not had a chance to even get into their Emails. >>>>>>>>> We >>>>>>>>> also need some time for discussion. This is hasty and ill >>>>>>>>> advised. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 2013-04-09 19:07, Boyd Smith wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Is Daniel Hayes on the list? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jefferson Parish. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> bws >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> FROM: Adrien Monteleone >>>>>>>>>> TO: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> SENT: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 7:00 PM >>>>>>>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - >>>>>>>>>> urgent >>>>>>>>>> - radio advertising >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> They vote on all items. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> They are on this list. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- In Liberty, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>>>>>>> On 04/09/2013 06:49 PM, Keith Thompson wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm still ignorant of the rules for this sort of thing. Is this >>>>>>>>>>> something that the parish reps should vote on as well? Or do >>>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>> vote on all items? >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>> - Keith >>>>>>>>>>> On 2013-04-09 17:11, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> As of right now, there are 4 votes. three more are needed for >>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>> quorum. If they are "Aye" then there is an absolute majority >>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>> passes. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I will not vote until two more "Aye" votes are in. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- In Liberty, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>>>>>>>>> On 04/09/2013 04:57 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Like it. Much better. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> bws >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> FROM: Adrien Monteleone mailto:chairman at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> TO: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors >>>>>>>>>>>>> mailto:scc at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> SENT: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 3:20 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR - >>>>>>>>>>>>> urgent - radio advertising >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> That text looks good. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't help myself and tweaked it a bit. (attached) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> These are just suggestions. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I timed it right short of 30 seconds. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- In Liberty, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 04/09/2013 02:05 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The same. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Look this over and give what ever improvements that you can, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> please. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bws >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> FROM: Keith Thompson mailto:media at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>> TO: scc at lplouisiana.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>> SENT: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 1:55 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] MOTION FROM THE CHAIR >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>>>>>> urgent - radio advertising >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would we get a better rate if we produced the spot? Or is it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> same cost regardless of production? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Keith >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2013-04-09 13:39, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To all SCC members, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My apologies for the short deadline of this vote. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> generally >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do not prefer to make such a request. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Our Elections officer Boyd Smith would like approval to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spend >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> party funds on radio advertising our presence at the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ponchatoula >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Strawberry Festival this weekend. (to encourage people to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stop >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by, learn more, and sign up as members and change voter >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> registration to LP) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He would like to run 1-2 commercials per day for Wednesday, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thursday & Friday. (deadlines mean maybe only Thurs. and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fri. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The cost for 60 second spots is $75. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The cost for 30 second spots is $55. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This includes production, but Boyd will be in charge of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> script. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The spots will be run during the John Osterlind and Denny >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shaffer shows on WRNO which have both been friendly to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LP. (I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think Osterlind already announced he is "libertarian" and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> endorsed Gary Johnson last fall) Their audience is friendly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our message as well. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On the short side, this will cost $165 for three 30 second >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spots, or as much as $450 for six 60 second spots. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is estimated that this will increase traffic at the LP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> booth >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at the festival by about 200 to even maybe 600 people. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We would need to generate 7 new memberships to break even >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the low end, and 18 to break even on the high end. That >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worst be a 10% conversion rate, and at best, only 1%. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> either number is achievable. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Additionally, if we vote to do this, donors can be targeted >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pledge the extra bucks to cover the cost so there is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> net >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> loss to the bank balance as of today. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All those in favor of authorizing this expenditure please >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AYE as soon as possible. Time lost is time missed to run >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spots and reach more people. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course, our normal rules of 72 hours to vote still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apply, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but I urge you to get your vote in sooner if you are able. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now that we have 13 members on the Board, 7 will be needed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a quorum and a majority of those voting required for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> passage. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you intend to vote NAY, please also do that as soon as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible so we will know quickly if this measure would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fail. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- In Liberty, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SCC mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org 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SCC mailing list >>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > If you have not already done so, please consider becoming a dues member of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana by visiting louisianalibertarian.net From boydw.smith at yahoo.com Wed Apr 10 14:51:59 2013 From: boydw.smith at yahoo.com (Boyd Smith) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 12:51:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Advertising In-Reply-To: <8303f9ba241154f6ff95d06bbcf1515f.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> References: <5c43b8e78ca956b7c28fef82fd5dbe88.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> <1365602539.24607.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51657C80.2050401@lplouisiana.org> <8303f9ba241154f6ff95d06bbcf1515f.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <1365623519.84818.YahooMailNeo@web161901.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> As long as we can do it with out cutting Ms. Adams' money.? She is worth it and we need to hold on to her.? Especially with losing you and Wes concentrating on EBR. ? bws From: Reed Ebarb To: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Advertising You make a really good point Boyd. At this next meeting, lets rework our budget and look at cutting our costs so we can put more money into advertising. > I agree 100%. > > -- In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > On 04/10/2013 09:02 AM, Boyd Smith wrote: >> Here is an issue that we are going to have to make room for in the >> meeting Saturday.? And I will do as much as I can to make the part >> that may take up time that we need take as little time as possible and >> to make it be as painless and actually productive as possible.? But >> the issue relates to growing the party and performing advertising. >> We will need to engage in actual advertising in some markets to both >> grow the party, the PECs and the local base.? We will also likely have >> to engage in advertising to gather the support/people necessary to >> form PECs in some parishes. Calcasieu is one of those special cases. >> We do not have the luxury of waiting till we have 64 or even 10 PECs >> formed.? There is a momentum that we have to maintain to continue >> building the party.? We are at 7550 (approximately) we could very well >> get to 8500 from events like the Strawberry Festival, Gun Shows and >> even word of mouth.? But, I think the limit of that is going to be >> around 9000 - 10,000.? In order to become a viable force in this state >> for politics, for reform, and for liberty, we will need to get to >> 25,000+.? And that is going to be only a start.? We are #3 now.? I >> want to be #1.? I want to be able to look at the Elected Officials >> Database and see Libertarians in elective office all across the state. >> To get candidates who can make a serious run at some of the higher >> offices in the state (parish council/police jury, state rep, state >> senate, congress, US Senate, Governor, ect) we need a large membership >> base.? To get a large membership base we will have to sell what we >> have and what we have is ideas.? Good ideas, yes.? But ideas - and >> ideas while bullet proof are abstract concepts.? They are not a hard >> item like a vacuumcleaner or a tangible service like massage therapy. >> They require propagation/marketing/advertising and we are getting >> close to the point where we are going to have to market our ideas and >> that is going to require an actual marketing campaign and advertising. >> Boyd W. Smith >> Elections Officer >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > If you have not already done so, please consider becoming a dues member of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana by visiting louisianalibertarian.net _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From secretary at lplouisiana.org Wed Apr 10 14:55:45 2013 From: secretary at lplouisiana.org (Reed Ebarb) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 14:55:45 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Advertising In-Reply-To: <1365623519.84818.YahooMailNeo@web161901.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <5c43b8e78ca956b7c28fef82fd5dbe88.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> <1365602539.24607.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51657C80.2050401@lplouisiana.org> <8303f9ba241154f6ff95d06bbcf1515f.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> <1365623519.84818.YahooMailNeo@web161901.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2d183c18f50b541dad109eaaf8bff3a8.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> Looking at the budget we planned, do we have a choice? Revenue is right on target but her salary is to high for current revenue. We either need to cut her pay at this next meeting, or start raising some cash. Since Mr. Hayes said some people were pledging money, I was preparred to assume that we could keep it at current levels but according to him, those people backed out. Since he can't promise the same level of pledges, the time has come to make some hard choices. > > > As long as we can do it with out cutting Ms. Adams' money.? She is worth > it and we need to hold on to her.? Especially with losing you and Wes > concentrating on EBR. > ? > bws > From: Reed Ebarb > To: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 2:41 PM > Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Advertising > > You make a really good point Boyd. At this next meeting, lets rework our > budget and look at cutting our costs so we can put more money into > advertising. > >> I agree 100%. >> >> -- In Liberty, >> >> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >> >> On 04/10/2013 09:02 AM, Boyd Smith wrote: >>> Here is an issue that we are going to have to make room for in the >>> meeting Saturday.? And I will do as much as I can to make the part >>> that may take up time that we need take as little time as possible and >>> to make it be as painless and actually productive as possible.? But >>> the issue relates to growing the party and performing advertising. >>> We will need to engage in actual advertising in some markets to both >>> grow the party, the PECs and the local base.? We will also likely have >>> to engage in advertising to gather the support/people necessary to >>> form PECs in some parishes. Calcasieu is one of those special cases. >>> We do not have the luxury of waiting till we have 64 or even 10 PECs >>> formed.? There is a momentum that we have to maintain to continue >>> building the party.? We are at 7550 (approximately) we could very well >>> get to 8500 from events like the Strawberry Festival, Gun Shows and >>> even word of mouth.? But, I think the limit of that is going to be >>> around 9000 - 10,000.? In order to become a viable force in this state >>> for politics, for reform, and for liberty, we will need to get to >>> 25,000+.? And that is going to be only a start.? We are #3 now.? I >>> want to be #1.? I want to be able to look at the Elected Officials >>> Database and see Libertarians in elective office all across the state. >>> To get candidates who can make a serious run at some of the higher >>> offices in the state (parish council/police jury, state rep, state >>> senate, congress, US Senate, Governor, ect) we need a large membership >>> base.? To get a large membership base we will have to sell what we >>> have and what we have is ideas.? Good ideas, yes.? But ideas - and >>> ideas while bullet proof are abstract concepts.? They are not a hard >>> item like a vacuumcleaner or a tangible service like massage therapy. >>> They require propagation/marketing/advertising and we are getting >>> close to the point where we are going to have to market our ideas and >>> that is going to require an actual marketing campaign and advertising. >>> Boyd W. Smith >>> Elections Officer >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SCC mailing list >>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> > > > If you have not already done so, please consider becoming a dues member of > the Libertarian Party of Louisiana by visiting louisianalibertarian.net > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org_______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > If you have not already done so, please consider becoming a dues member of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana by visiting louisianalibertarian.net From chairman at lplouisiana.org Wed Apr 10 15:18:49 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 15:18:49 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Advertising In-Reply-To: <1365623519.84818.YahooMailNeo@web161901.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <5c43b8e78ca956b7c28fef82fd5dbe88.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> <1365602539.24607.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51657C80.2050401@lplouisiana.org> <8303f9ba241154f6ff95d06bbcf1515f.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> <1365623519.84818.YahooMailNeo@web161901.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5165C929.4020104@lplouisiana.org> Boyd, There are some other considerations here as well. Of particular note is what is in the contract that we are paying for and what is being provided. There's nothing wrong, and in fact, much outstanding and great, about what is being provided. The sticking point is we set a price for certain services, this list does not include the work the ED is actually spending most of her time on. As Reed noted, we don't have the funding levels to support the work actually being done in the current fashion, and now that pledges are backing out, that foundation is even more tenuous. The present contract payment level is unsustainable at present. It was only offered to secure a signature. We operated on dangerous ground for 8 weeks without a contract. I still don't know if that time would be sufficient to establish an "employer/employee" relationship under the law. We don't need that headache and all that comes with it. That isn't going to happen again. My records and projections show our original amount of $200-$250 a week for what we were asking for is right on target for the upper limit of what we can afford to pay. Closer analysis by myself and Mr. Ebarb shows what we were specifically contracting for likely falls even less than that - closer to $150 a week. That difference would provide more cushion for other projects and still get the tasks we set out in the contract accomplished. The issue isn't, is the work being done of value? - it is. The issue isn't simply, can we afford it? - we can't. The bigger issue, the one that will control the final decision - is what do we really need that matches what we can afford? And what were we asking for and what were we getting? I have no beef with Ms. Adams concerning her ability to organize people into functioning parish affiliates. She's done excellent in that regard. And, I understand she needs full time employment. The problem is we not only didn't task her with being responsible for organizing those parishes, I specifically instructed several times that was not part of her duties, that if she did so anyway - she was doing so as a volunteer, and that the original contract terms still had to be fulfilled - they could not be put on the back burner. I even had to re-word the contract terms to put more emphasis on this point. The problem is we simply are not in a position to offer to pay someone $26k a year right now. We are at best, able to offer part-time work and part-time pay at about half or less than that amount. We will get to the point everyone wants us to get to eventually. But we'll have to walk a bit, rather than break out into a full sprint. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 04/10/2013 02:51 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: > > As long as we can do it with out cutting Ms. Adams' money. She is > worth it and we need to hold on to her. Especially with losing you > and Wes concentrating on EBR. > bws > *From:* Reed Ebarb > *To:* Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 10, 2013 2:41 PM > *Subject:* Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Advertising > > You make a really good point Boyd. At this next meeting, lets rework our > budget and look at cutting our costs so we can put more money into > advertising. > > > I agree 100%. > > > > -- In Liberty, > > > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > > > On 04/10/2013 09:02 AM, Boyd Smith wrote: > >> Here is an issue that we are going to have to make room for in the > >> meeting Saturday. And I will do as much as I can to make the part > >> that may take up time that we need take as little time as possible and > >> to make it be as painless and actually productive as possible. But > >> the issue relates to growing the party and performing advertising. > >> We will need to engage in actual advertising in some markets to both > >> grow the party, the PECs and the local base. We will also likely have > >> to engage in advertising to gather the support/people necessary to > >> form PECs in some parishes. Calcasieu is one of those special cases. > >> We do not have the luxury of waiting till we have 64 or even 10 PECs > >> formed. There is a momentum that we have to maintain to continue > >> building the party. We are at 7550 (approximately) we could very well > >> get to 8500 from events like the Strawberry Festival, Gun Shows and > >> even word of mouth. But, I think the limit of that is going to be > >> around 9000 - 10,000. In order to become a viable force in this state > >> for politics, for reform, and for liberty, we will need to get to > >> 25,000+. And that is going to be only a start. We are #3 now. I > >> want to be #1. I want to be able to look at the Elected Officials > >> Database and see Libertarians in elective office all across the state. > >> To get candidates who can make a serious run at some of the higher > >> offices in the state (parish council/police jury, state rep, state > >> senate, congress, US Senate, Governor, ect) we need a large membership > >> base. To get a large membership base we will have to sell what we > >> have and what we have is ideas. Good ideas, yes. But ideas - and > >> ideas while bullet proof are abstract concepts. They are not a hard > >> item like a vacuumcleaner or a tangible service like massage therapy. > >> They require propagation/marketing/advertising and we are getting > >> close to the point where we are going to have to market our ideas and > >> that is going to require an actual marketing campaign and advertising. > >> Boyd W. Smith > >> Elections Officer > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> SCC mailing list > >> SCC at lplouisiana.org > >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SCC mailing list > > SCC at lplouisiana.org > > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > > > > If you have not already done so, please consider becoming a dues member of > the Libertarian Party of Louisiana by visiting > louisianalibertarian.net > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: chairman.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 297 bytes Desc: not available URL: From secretary at lplouisiana.org Wed Apr 10 15:44:24 2013 From: secretary at lplouisiana.org (Reed Ebarb) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 15:44:24 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Advertising In-Reply-To: <5165C929.4020104@lplouisiana.org> References: <5c43b8e78ca956b7c28fef82fd5dbe88.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> <1365602539.24607.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51657C80.2050401@lplouisiana.org> <8303f9ba241154f6ff95d06bbcf1515f.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> <1365623519.84818.YahooMailNeo@web161901.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <5165C929.4020104@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <974bc1c0b88b546d375b173a3f82b340.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> Since Ms. Adams is interested in organizing parishs and we are not providing the proper funds, would it be possible for her to take a full time job where she makes what she wants and she can still volunteer to help organize parishes? If we aren't paying her enough, that sounds like the best course. This is especially true now that Mr. Hayes' pledges are backing out. > Boyd, > > There are some other considerations here as well. Of particular note is > what is in the contract that we are paying for and what is being > provided. There's nothing wrong, and in fact, much outstanding and > great, about what is being provided. The sticking point is we set a > price for certain services, this list does not include the work the ED > is actually spending most of her time on. As Reed noted, we don't have > the funding levels to support the work actually being done in the > current fashion, and now that pledges are backing out, that foundation > is even more tenuous. > > The present contract payment level is unsustainable at present. It was > only offered to secure a signature. We operated on dangerous ground for > 8 weeks without a contract. I still don't know if that time would be > sufficient to establish an "employer/employee" relationship under the > law. We don't need that headache and all that comes with it. > > That isn't going to happen again. > > My records and projections show our original amount of $200-$250 a week > for what we were asking for is right on target for the upper limit of > what we can afford to pay. Closer analysis by myself and Mr. Ebarb > shows what we were specifically contracting for likely falls even less > than that - closer to $150 a week. That difference would provide more > cushion for other projects and still get the tasks we set out in the > contract accomplished. > > The issue isn't, is the work being done of value? - it is. > > The issue isn't simply, can we afford it? - we can't. > > The bigger issue, the one that will control the final decision - is what > do we really need that matches what we can afford? And what were we > asking for and what were we getting? > > I have no beef with Ms. Adams concerning her ability to organize people > into functioning parish affiliates. She's done excellent in that > regard. And, I understand she needs full time employment. > > The problem is we not only didn't task her with being responsible for > organizing those parishes, I specifically instructed several times that > was not part of her duties, that if she did so anyway - she was doing so > as a volunteer, and that the original contract terms still had to be > fulfilled - they could not be put on the back burner. I even had to > re-word the contract terms to put more emphasis on this point. > > The problem is we simply are not in a position to offer to pay someone > $26k a year right now. We are at best, able to offer part-time work and > part-time pay at about half or less than that amount. > > We will get to the point everyone wants us to get to eventually. But > we'll have to walk a bit, rather than break out into a full sprint. > > > -- In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > On 04/10/2013 02:51 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: >> >> As long as we can do it with out cutting Ms. Adams' money. She is >> worth it and we need to hold on to her. Especially with losing you >> and Wes concentrating on EBR. >> bws >> *From:* Reed Ebarb >> *To:* Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors >> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 10, 2013 2:41 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Advertising >> >> You make a really good point Boyd. At this next meeting, lets rework our >> budget and look at cutting our costs so we can put more money into >> advertising. >> >> > I agree 100%. >> > >> > -- In Liberty, >> > >> > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >> > Libertarian Party of Louisiana >> > >> > On 04/10/2013 09:02 AM, Boyd Smith wrote: >> >> Here is an issue that we are going to have to make room for in the >> >> meeting Saturday. And I will do as much as I can to make the part >> >> that may take up time that we need take as little time as possible >> and >> >> to make it be as painless and actually productive as possible. But >> >> the issue relates to growing the party and performing advertising. >> >> We will need to engage in actual advertising in some markets to both >> >> grow the party, the PECs and the local base. We will also likely >> have >> >> to engage in advertising to gather the support/people necessary to >> >> form PECs in some parishes. Calcasieu is one of those special cases. >> >> We do not have the luxury of waiting till we have 64 or even 10 PECs >> >> formed. There is a momentum that we have to maintain to continue >> >> building the party. We are at 7550 (approximately) we could very >> well >> >> get to 8500 from events like the Strawberry Festival, Gun Shows and >> >> even word of mouth. But, I think the limit of that is going to be >> >> around 9000 - 10,000. In order to become a viable force in this >> state >> >> for politics, for reform, and for liberty, we will need to get to >> >> 25,000+. And that is going to be only a start. We are #3 now. I >> >> want to be #1. I want to be able to look at the Elected Officials >> >> Database and see Libertarians in elective office all across the >> state. >> >> To get candidates who can make a serious run at some of the higher >> >> offices in the state (parish council/police jury, state rep, state >> >> senate, congress, US Senate, Governor, ect) we need a large >> membership >> >> base. To get a large membership base we will have to sell what we >> >> have and what we have is ideas. Good ideas, yes. But ideas - and >> >> ideas while bullet proof are abstract concepts. They are not a hard >> >> item like a vacuumcleaner or a tangible service like massage therapy. >> >> They require propagation/marketing/advertising and we are getting >> >> close to the point where we are going to have to market our ideas and >> >> that is going to require an actual marketing campaign and >> advertising. >> >> Boyd W. Smith >> >> Elections Officer >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> SCC mailing list >> >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > SCC mailing list >> > SCC at lplouisiana.org >> > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> > >> >> >> If you have not already done so, please consider becoming a dues member >> of >> the Libertarian Party of Louisiana by visiting >> louisianalibertarian.net >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > If you have not already done so, please consider becoming a dues member of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana by visiting louisianalibertarian.net From boydw.smith at yahoo.com Wed Apr 10 19:21:34 2013 From: boydw.smith at yahoo.com (Boyd Smith) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 17:21:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Advertising In-Reply-To: <974bc1c0b88b546d375b173a3f82b340.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> References: <5c43b8e78ca956b7c28fef82fd5dbe88.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> <1365602539.24607.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51657C80.2050401@lplouisiana.org> <8303f9ba241154f6ff95d06bbcf1515f.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> <1365623519.84818.YahooMailNeo@web161901.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <5165C929.4020104@lplouisiana.org> <974bc1c0b88b546d375b173a3f82b340.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <1365639694.89111.YahooMailNeo@web161903.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> When I said that we will need to discuss advertising for the future, I meant just that.? That it needs to be an agenda item.? I am not sure how that would be done.? I only know to say "Here is an issue we need to be talking about."? We can not wait till too late to have a plan in place.? ? It is like the Army.? There are plans in the Pentagon for attacking any country on earth.? Why do you think we went into Iraq so quickly and so well?? We had those invasion plans for decades and they were updated regularly.? The closer we got to having to do something the more those plans were updated with better and better intelligence. ? There are plans to invade Cuba, Mexico, Ireland, Egypt, any country on earth and several places that are not countries.? Are there even plans to take care of a president who gets way off the beam???I do not know for sure.? But I would be willing to bet good money that there are such plans. ? The point is, we need to know now at 7500 registered Libertarians in the state what we will do when we have 9500, or 12,000 or 15,000 or 20,000.? We need to have discussed and put into writing what we will do when we do when word of mouth has reached everybody that word of mouth can reach.? When everyone who goes to a gun show has seen us and knows how much we support the 2nd amendment.? When we have 10,000 registered Libertarians throughout the state and they are spread out and feeling like their voice is the only voice and they decide "The party does not do anything, and I am the only one saying these things so I may as well stop because I am all by myself." ? And evidently talking, planning and bringing up ideas for discussion actually offends some people.? Well too bad!? It is what organizations do.? It is what political parties do.? They plan.? They discuss and they try to have ideas. ? bws ________________________________ From: Reed Ebarb To: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:44 PM Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Advertising Since Ms. Adams is interested in organizing parishs and we are not providing the proper funds, would it be possible for her to take a full time job where she makes what she wants and she can still volunteer to help organize parishes? If we aren't paying her enough, that sounds like the best course. This is especially true now that Mr. Hayes' pledges are backing out. > Boyd, > > There are some other considerations here as well.? Of particular note is > what is in the contract that we are paying for and what is being > provided.? There's nothing wrong, and in fact, much outstanding and > great, about what is being provided.? The sticking point is we set a > price for certain services, this list does not include the work the ED > is actually spending most of her time on.? As Reed noted, we don't have > the funding levels to support the work actually being done in the > current fashion, and now that pledges are backing out, that foundation > is even more tenuous. > > The present contract payment level is unsustainable at present. It was > only offered to secure a signature.? We operated on dangerous ground for > 8 weeks without a contract.? I still don't know if that time would be > sufficient to establish an "employer/employee" relationship under the > law.? We don't need that headache and all that comes with it. > > That isn't going to happen again. > > My records and projections show our original amount of $200-$250 a week > for what we were asking for is right on target for the upper limit of > what we can afford to pay.? Closer analysis by myself and Mr. Ebarb > shows what we were specifically contracting for likely falls even less > than that - closer to $150 a week. That difference would provide more > cushion for other projects and still get the tasks we set out in the > contract accomplished. > > The issue isn't, is the work being done of value? - it is. > > The issue isn't simply, can we afford it? - we can't. > > The bigger issue, the one that will control the final decision - is what > do we really need that matches what we can afford?? And what were we > asking for and what were we getting? > > I have no beef with Ms. Adams concerning her ability to organize people > into functioning parish affiliates.? She's done excellent in that > regard.? And, I understand she needs full time employment. > > The problem is we not only didn't task her with being responsible for > organizing those parishes, I specifically instructed several times that > was not part of her duties, that if she did so anyway - she was doing so > as a volunteer, and that the original contract terms still had to be > fulfilled - they could not be put on the back burner.? I even had to > re-word the contract terms to put more emphasis on this point. > > The problem is we simply are not in a position to offer to pay someone > $26k a year right now.? We are at best, able to offer part-time work and > part-time pay at about half or less than that amount. > > We will get to the point everyone wants us to get to eventually.? But > we'll have to walk a bit, rather than break out into a full sprint. > > > -- In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > On 04/10/2013 02:51 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: >> >> As long as we can do it with out cutting Ms. Adams' money.? She is >> worth it and we need to hold on to her.? Especially with losing you >> and Wes concentrating on EBR. >> bws >> *From:* Reed Ebarb >> *To:* Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors >> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 10, 2013 2:41 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Advertising >> >> You make a really good point Boyd. At this next meeting, lets rework our >> budget and look at cutting our costs so we can put more money into >> advertising. >> >> > I agree 100%. >> > >> > -- In Liberty, >> > >> > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >> > Libertarian Party of Louisiana >> > >> > On 04/10/2013 09:02 AM, Boyd Smith wrote: >> >> Here is an issue that we are going to have to make room for in the >> >> meeting Saturday.? And I will do as much as I can to make the part >> >> that may take up time that we need take as little time as possible >> and >> >> to make it be as painless and actually productive as possible.? But >> >> the issue relates to growing the party and performing advertising. >> >> We will need to engage in actual advertising in some markets to both >> >> grow the party, the PECs and the local base.? We will also likely >> have >> >> to engage in advertising to gather the support/people necessary to >> >> form PECs in some parishes. Calcasieu is one of those special cases. >> >> We do not have the luxury of waiting till we have 64 or even 10 PECs >> >> formed.? There is a momentum that we have to maintain to continue >> >> building the party.? We are at 7550 (approximately) we could very >> well >> >> get to 8500 from events like the Strawberry Festival, Gun Shows and >> >> even word of mouth.? But, I think the limit of that is going to be >> >> around 9000 - 10,000.? In order to become a viable force in this >> state >> >> for politics, for reform, and for liberty, we will need to get to >> >> 25,000+.? And that is going to be only a start.? We are #3 now.? I >> >> want to be #1.? I want to be able to look at the Elected Officials >> >> Database and see Libertarians in elective office all across the >> state. >> >> To get candidates who can make a serious run at some of the higher >> >> offices in the state (parish council/police jury, state rep, state >> >> senate, congress, US Senate, Governor, ect) we need a large >> membership >> >> base.? To get a large membership base we will have to sell what we >> >> have and what we have is ideas.? Good ideas, yes. But ideas - and >> >> ideas while bullet proof are abstract concepts. They are not a hard >> >> item like a vacuumcleaner or a tangible service like massage therapy. >> >> They require propagation/marketing/advertising and we are getting >> >> close to the point where we are going to have to market our ideas and >> >> that is going to require an actual marketing campaign and >> advertising. >> >> Boyd W. Smith >> >> Elections Officer >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> SCC mailing list >> >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > SCC mailing list >> > SCC at lplouisiana.org >> > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> > >> >> >> If you have not already done so, please consider becoming a dues member >> of >> the Libertarian Party of Louisiana by visiting >> louisianalibertarian.net >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > If you have not already done so, please consider becoming a dues member of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana by visiting louisianalibertarian.net _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chairman at lplouisiana.org Wed Apr 10 19:53:09 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 19:53:09 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Advertising In-Reply-To: <1365639694.89111.YahooMailNeo@web161903.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <5c43b8e78ca956b7c28fef82fd5dbe88.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> <1365602539.24607.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51657C80.2050401@lplouisiana.org> <8303f9ba241154f6ff95d06bbcf1515f.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> <1365623519.84818.YahooMailNeo@web161901.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <5165C929.4020104@lplouisiana.org> <974bc1c0b88b546d375b173a3f82b340.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> <1365639694.89111.YahooMailNeo@web161903.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <51660975.9050608@lplouisiana.org> I made a call for agenda items back when I called for officer reports. I understand this "newly" came up. No problem. The final agenda is pending other issues right now anyway. But yes, we do need to discuss this. In some ways, the voting population at large has been clamoring for "what is the party doing" for many years now. Most of them gave up on us long ago. That's because we never advertised and established a brand. Doing so isn't just accomplished with direct marketing via radio, TV, and print. It has to be a comprehensive approach, the biggest of which, should be running quality candidates, especially at the local level. Doing various projects will certainly be more successful with organized parishes, but we also can't twiddle our thumbs otherwise until all the parishes are formed. We have to do a little of everything, at a smooth and steady pace. Also, I don't think this has to be a one or the other approach. This is the entire point. If one project sucks all the resources out of the party, perhaps it is time to very closely examine that project. It may be that such a budget item is a basic necessity. Perhaps it's just the priority of some but not of others. It might also be a shared goal with differing ideas on how to achieve it. There are some that believe we need certain basic functions taken care of by paid staff and the rest will just have to be done by volunteers until the party grows large enough to support more staff, or higher paid staff or both. Then there are some that want the kitchen sink nearly, and are insisting that be the party's sole function and goal. Some want to only take one step at a time in one area, not realizing if you do nothing else, you aren't reinforcing the one action you are doing. I will tell you right now. I do not support turning this party into a vehicle that exists to pay people or employ them. Staff should be part of what gives the party the boost over a purely volunteer force it needs, not become a self-justifying argument merely for its own maintenance. Put more bluntly. There are listed purposes of the LPL in our Bylaws. Not one of them is to "give someone a job." If we need and desire and can afford staff, then we asks for tasks to be done that we can afford to pay for. If someone doesn't want to do that work, and do other work instead, or if they don't want to do any work for X amount which is more than we can pay, then they aren't right for the job that is being offered. It's a simple and plain as that. I'm reminded of a little history lesson. The colony of Pennsylvania started out as they all did, with no government apparatus in place initially. The king sent over a governor who promptly levied a tax. When asked what the tax was for, the governor replied "to pay my salary." To which the colonists asked, "what do you do for that salary?" The governor replied, "collect the taxes." They promptly ran him out of the colony. They went through several such incidents before the king sent in an army to force his government and his taxes upon them. Mind you, they got along just fine without all of that mess, so they saw no need for the taxes, or the governor. To be sure, we are getting more for our money than just paying a staff member. But we can't lose sight of our purposes and instead get trapped into behavior that focuses more on making sure someone has a job, than focusing on what jobs we need done. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 04/10/2013 07:21 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: > When I said that we will need to discuss advertising for the future, I > meant just that. That it needs to be an agenda item. I am not sure > how that would be done. I only know to say "Here is an issue we need > to be talking about." We can not wait till too late to have a plan in > place. > It is like the Army. There are plans in the Pentagon for attacking > any country on earth. Why do you think we went into Iraq so quickly > and so well? We had those invasion plans for decades and they were > updated regularly. The closer we got to having to do something the > more those plans were updated with better and better intelligence. > There are plans to invade Cuba, Mexico, Ireland, Egypt, any country on > earth and several places that are not countries. Are there even plans > to take care of a president who gets way off the beam? I do not know > for sure. But I would be willing to bet good money that there are > such plans. > The point is, we need to know now at 7500 registered Libertarians in > the state what we will do when we have 9500, or 12,000 or 15,000 or > 20,000. We need to have discussed and put into writing what we will > do when we do when word of mouth has reached everybody that word of > mouth can reach. When everyone who goes to a gun show has seen us and > knows how much we support the 2nd amendment. When we have 10,000 > registered Libertarians throughout the state and they are spread out > and feeling like their voice is the only voice and they decide "The > party does not do anything, and I am the only one saying these things > so I may as well stop because I am all by myself." > And evidently talking, planning and bringing up ideas for discussion > actually offends some people. Well too bad! It is what organizations > do. It is what political parties do. They plan. They discuss and > they try to have ideas. > bws > > *From:* Reed Ebarb > *To:* Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:44 PM > *Subject:* Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Advertising > > Since Ms. Adams is interested in organizing parishs and we are not > providing the proper funds, would it be possible for her to take a full > time job where she makes what she wants and she can still volunteer to > help organize parishes? If we aren't paying her enough, that sounds like > the best course. This is especially true now that Mr. Hayes' pledges are > backing out. > > > Boyd, > > > > There are some other considerations here as well. Of particular note is > > what is in the contract that we are paying for and what is being > > provided. There's nothing wrong, and in fact, much outstanding and > > great, about what is being provided. The sticking point is we set a > > price for certain services, this list does not include the work the ED > > is actually spending most of her time on. As Reed noted, we don't have > > the funding levels to support the work actually being done in the > > current fashion, and now that pledges are backing out, that foundation > > is even more tenuous. > > > > The present contract payment level is unsustainable at present. It was > > only offered to secure a signature. We operated on dangerous ground for > > 8 weeks without a contract. I still don't know if that time would be > > sufficient to establish an "employer/employee" relationship under the > > law. We don't need that headache and all that comes with it. > > > > That isn't going to happen again. > > > > My records and projections show our original amount of $200-$250 a week > > for what we were asking for is right on target for the upper limit of > > what we can afford to pay. Closer analysis by myself and Mr. Ebarb > > shows what we were specifically contracting for likely falls even less > > than that - closer to $150 a week. That difference would provide more > > cushion for other projects and still get the tasks we set out in the > > contract accomplished. > > > > The issue isn't, is the work being done of value? - it is. > > > > The issue isn't simply, can we afford it? - we can't. > > > > The bigger issue, the one that will control the final decision - is what > > do we really need that matches what we can afford? And what were we > > asking for and what were we getting? > > > > I have no beef with Ms. Adams concerning her ability to organize people > > into functioning parish affiliates. She's done excellent in that > > regard. And, I understand she needs full time employment. > > > > The problem is we not only didn't task her with being responsible for > > organizing those parishes, I specifically instructed several times that > > was not part of her duties, that if she did so anyway - she was doing so > > as a volunteer, and that the original contract terms still had to be > > fulfilled - they could not be put on the back burner. I even had to > > re-word the contract terms to put more emphasis on this point. > > > > The problem is we simply are not in a position to offer to pay someone > > $26k a year right now. We are at best, able to offer part-time work and > > part-time pay at about half or less than that amount. > > > > We will get to the point everyone wants us to get to eventually. But > > we'll have to walk a bit, rather than break out into a full sprint. > > > > > > -- In Liberty, > > > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > > > On 04/10/2013 02:51 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: > >> > >> As long as we can do it with out cutting Ms. Adams' money. She is > >> worth it and we need to hold on to her. Especially with losing you > >> and Wes concentrating on EBR. > >> bws > >> *From:* Reed Ebarb > > >> *To:* Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors > > >> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 10, 2013 2:41 PM > >> *Subject:* Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Advertising > >> > >> You make a really good point Boyd. At this next meeting, lets > rework our > >> budget and look at cutting our costs so we can put more money into > >> advertising. > >> > >> > I agree 100%. > >> > > >> > -- In Liberty, > >> > > >> > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > >> > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > >> > > >> > On 04/10/2013 09:02 AM, Boyd Smith wrote: > >> >> Here is an issue that we are going to have to make room for in the > >> >> meeting Saturday. And I will do as much as I can to make the part > >> >> that may take up time that we need take as little time as possible > >> and > >> >> to make it be as painless and actually productive as possible. But > >> >> the issue relates to growing the party and performing advertising. > >> >> We will need to engage in actual advertising in some markets to both > >> >> grow the party, the PECs and the local base. We will also likely > >> have > >> >> to engage in advertising to gather the support/people necessary to > >> >> form PECs in some parishes. Calcasieu is one of those special cases. > >> >> We do not have the luxury of waiting till we have 64 or even 10 PECs > >> >> formed. There is a momentum that we have to maintain to continue > >> >> building the party. We are at 7550 (approximately) we could very > >> well > >> >> get to 8500 from events like the Strawberry Festival, Gun Shows and > >> >> even word of mouth. But, I think the limit of that is going to be > >> >> around 9000 - 10,000. In order to become a viable force in this > >> state > >> >> for politics, for reform, and for liberty, we will need to get to > >> >> 25,000+. And that is going to be only a start. We are #3 now. I > >> >> want to be #1. I want to be able to look at the Elected Officials > >> >> Database and see Libertarians in elective office all across the > >> state. > >> >> To get candidates who can make a serious run at some of the higher > >> >> offices in the state (parish council/police jury, state rep, state > >> >> senate, congress, US Senate, Governor, ect) we need a large > >> membership > >> >> base. To get a large membership base we will have to sell what we > >> >> have and what we have is ideas. Good ideas, yes. But ideas - and > >> >> ideas while bullet proof are abstract concepts. They are not a hard > >> >> item like a vacuumcleaner or a tangible service like massage > therapy. > >> >> They require propagation/marketing/advertising and we are getting > >> >> close to the point where we are going to have to market our > ideas and > >> >> that is going to require an actual marketing campaign and > >> advertising. > >> >> Boyd W. Smith > >> >> Elections Officer > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> SCC mailing list > >> >> SCC at lplouisiana.org > > > >> >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > SCC mailing list > >> > SCC at lplouisiana.org > > > >> > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > >> > > >> > >> > >> If you have not already done so, please consider becoming a dues member > >> of > >> the Libertarian Party of Louisiana by visiting > >> louisianalibertarian.net > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> SCC mailing list > >> SCC at lplouisiana.org > > > >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> SCC mailing list > >> SCC at lplouisiana.org > >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SCC mailing list > > SCC at lplouisiana.org > > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > > > > If you have not already done so, please consider becoming a dues member of > the Libertarian Party of Louisiana by visiting louisianalibertarian.net > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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That was opportunity lost, and after lots of work on your part Boyd, because some people decided for themselves and thus for the party, that they had other priorities. We can't skip ANY elections. We certainly won't be able to recruit someone into every race. But we also should never, from this point forward, sit out an entire election. Already, a tight eye should be kept on special election possibilities for the fall, and work needs to start now for the known races in 2014. We don't have a date yet, but we should expect a special election for CD6 when Cassidy steps down to challenge Landrieu. Running candidates is advertisement. It's brand identification. It energizes the base and builds interest in the party. It is not optional. We are a political party, not a social club. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 04/10/2013 07:21 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: > When I said that we will need to discuss advertising for the future, I > meant just that. That it needs to be an agenda item. I am not sure > how that would be done. I only know to say "Here is an issue we need > to be talking about." We can not wait till too late to have a plan in > place. > It is like the Army. There are plans in the Pentagon for attacking > any country on earth. Why do you think we went into Iraq so quickly > and so well? We had those invasion plans for decades and they were > updated regularly. The closer we got to having to do something the > more those plans were updated with better and better intelligence. > There are plans to invade Cuba, Mexico, Ireland, Egypt, any country on > earth and several places that are not countries. Are there even plans > to take care of a president who gets way off the beam? I do not know > for sure. But I would be willing to bet good money that there are > such plans. > The point is, we need to know now at 7500 registered Libertarians in > the state what we will do when we have 9500, or 12,000 or 15,000 or > 20,000. We need to have discussed and put into writing what we will > do when we do when word of mouth has reached everybody that word of > mouth can reach. When everyone who goes to a gun show has seen us and > knows how much we support the 2nd amendment. When we have 10,000 > registered Libertarians throughout the state and they are spread out > and feeling like their voice is the only voice and they decide "The > party does not do anything, and I am the only one saying these things > so I may as well stop because I am all by myself." > And evidently talking, planning and bringing up ideas for discussion > actually offends some people. Well too bad! It is what organizations > do. It is what political parties do. They plan. They discuss and > they try to have ideas. > bws > > *From:* Reed Ebarb > *To:* Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:44 PM > *Subject:* Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Advertising > > Since Ms. Adams is interested in organizing parishs and we are not > providing the proper funds, would it be possible for her to take a full > time job where she makes what she wants and she can still volunteer to > help organize parishes? If we aren't paying her enough, that sounds like > the best course. This is especially true now that Mr. Hayes' pledges are > backing out. > > > Boyd, > > > > There are some other considerations here as well. Of particular note is > > what is in the contract that we are paying for and what is being > > provided. There's nothing wrong, and in fact, much outstanding and > > great, about what is being provided. The sticking point is we set a > > price for certain services, this list does not include the work the ED > > is actually spending most of her time on. As Reed noted, we don't have > > the funding levels to support the work actually being done in the > > current fashion, and now that pledges are backing out, that foundation > > is even more tenuous. > > > > The present contract payment level is unsustainable at present. It was > > only offered to secure a signature. We operated on dangerous ground for > > 8 weeks without a contract. I still don't know if that time would be > > sufficient to establish an "employer/employee" relationship under the > > law. We don't need that headache and all that comes with it. > > > > That isn't going to happen again. > > > > My records and projections show our original amount of $200-$250 a week > > for what we were asking for is right on target for the upper limit of > > what we can afford to pay. Closer analysis by myself and Mr. Ebarb > > shows what we were specifically contracting for likely falls even less > > than that - closer to $150 a week. That difference would provide more > > cushion for other projects and still get the tasks we set out in the > > contract accomplished. > > > > The issue isn't, is the work being done of value? - it is. > > > > The issue isn't simply, can we afford it? - we can't. > > > > The bigger issue, the one that will control the final decision - is what > > do we really need that matches what we can afford? And what were we > > asking for and what were we getting? > > > > I have no beef with Ms. Adams concerning her ability to organize people > > into functioning parish affiliates. She's done excellent in that > > regard. And, I understand she needs full time employment. > > > > The problem is we not only didn't task her with being responsible for > > organizing those parishes, I specifically instructed several times that > > was not part of her duties, that if she did so anyway - she was doing so > > as a volunteer, and that the original contract terms still had to be > > fulfilled - they could not be put on the back burner. I even had to > > re-word the contract terms to put more emphasis on this point. > > > > The problem is we simply are not in a position to offer to pay someone > > $26k a year right now. We are at best, able to offer part-time work and > > part-time pay at about half or less than that amount. > > > > We will get to the point everyone wants us to get to eventually. But > > we'll have to walk a bit, rather than break out into a full sprint. > > > > > > -- In Liberty, > > > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > > > On 04/10/2013 02:51 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: > >> > >> As long as we can do it with out cutting Ms. Adams' money. She is > >> worth it and we need to hold on to her. Especially with losing you > >> and Wes concentrating on EBR. > >> bws > >> *From:* Reed Ebarb > > >> *To:* Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors > > >> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 10, 2013 2:41 PM > >> *Subject:* Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Advertising > >> > >> You make a really good point Boyd. At this next meeting, lets > rework our > >> budget and look at cutting our costs so we can put more money into > >> advertising. > >> > >> > I agree 100%. > >> > > >> > -- In Liberty, > >> > > >> > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > >> > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > >> > > >> > On 04/10/2013 09:02 AM, Boyd Smith wrote: > >> >> Here is an issue that we are going to have to make room for in the > >> >> meeting Saturday. And I will do as much as I can to make the part > >> >> that may take up time that we need take as little time as possible > >> and > >> >> to make it be as painless and actually productive as possible. But > >> >> the issue relates to growing the party and performing advertising. > >> >> We will need to engage in actual advertising in some markets to both > >> >> grow the party, the PECs and the local base. We will also likely > >> have > >> >> to engage in advertising to gather the support/people necessary to > >> >> form PECs in some parishes. Calcasieu is one of those special cases. > >> >> We do not have the luxury of waiting till we have 64 or even 10 PECs > >> >> formed. There is a momentum that we have to maintain to continue > >> >> building the party. We are at 7550 (approximately) we could very > >> well > >> >> get to 8500 from events like the Strawberry Festival, Gun Shows and > >> >> even word of mouth. But, I think the limit of that is going to be > >> >> around 9000 - 10,000. In order to become a viable force in this > >> state > >> >> for politics, for reform, and for liberty, we will need to get to > >> >> 25,000+. And that is going to be only a start. We are #3 now. I > >> >> want to be #1. I want to be able to look at the Elected Officials > >> >> Database and see Libertarians in elective office all across the > >> state. > >> >> To get candidates who can make a serious run at some of the higher > >> >> offices in the state (parish council/police jury, state rep, state > >> >> senate, congress, US Senate, Governor, ect) we need a large > >> membership > >> >> base. To get a large membership base we will have to sell what we > >> >> have and what we have is ideas. Good ideas, yes. But ideas - and > >> >> ideas while bullet proof are abstract concepts. They are not a hard > >> >> item like a vacuumcleaner or a tangible service like massage > therapy. > >> >> They require propagation/marketing/advertising and we are getting > >> >> close to the point where we are going to have to market our > ideas and > >> >> that is going to require an actual marketing campaign and > >> advertising. > >> >> Boyd W. Smith > >> >> Elections Officer > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> SCC mailing list > >> >> SCC at lplouisiana.org > > > >> >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > SCC mailing list > >> > SCC at lplouisiana.org > > > >> > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > >> > > >> > >> > >> If you have not already done so, please consider becoming a dues member > >> of > >> the Libertarian Party of Louisiana by visiting > >> louisianalibertarian.net > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> SCC mailing list > >> SCC at lplouisiana.org > > > >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> SCC mailing list > >> SCC at lplouisiana.org > >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SCC mailing list > > SCC at lplouisiana.org > > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > > > > If you have not already done so, please consider becoming a dues member of > the Libertarian Party of Louisiana by visiting louisianalibertarian.net > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Awaiting permission from the candidate to tell the board. ? The next special will most likely be the Orleans Parish Sheriff.? Cassidy will not have to step down to run as the elections are concurrent. He just cannot run for both seats at the same time. ? bws ________________________________ From: Adrien Monteleone To: scc at lplouisiana.org Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 8:03 PM Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Advertising Not incidentally, We missed a prime opportunity to hit the ground running and follow up our Congressional slate with a slew of local offices last weekend. That was opportunity lost, and after lots of work on your part Boyd, because some people decided for themselves and thus for the party, that they had other priorities. We can't skip ANY elections.? We certainly won't be able to recruit someone into every race.? But we also should never, from this point forward, sit out an entire election. Already, a tight eye should be kept on special election possibilities for the fall, and work needs to start now for the known races in 2014. We don't have a date yet, but we should expect a special election for CD6 when Cassidy steps down to challenge Landrieu. Running candidates is advertisement. It's brand identification. It energizes the base and builds interest in the party.? It is not optional.? We are a political party, not a social club. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 04/10/2013 07:21 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: When I said that we will need to discuss advertising for the future, I meant just that.? That it needs to be an agenda item.? I am not sure how that would be done.? I only know to say "Here is an issue we need to be talking about."? We can not wait till too late to have a plan in place.? >? >It is like the Army.? There are plans in the Pentagon for attacking any country on earth.? Why do you think we went into Iraq so quickly and so well?? We had those invasion plans for decades and they were updated regularly.? The closer we got to having to do something the more those plans were updated with better and better intelligence. >? >There are plans to invade Cuba, Mexico, Ireland, Egypt, any country on earth and several places that are not countries.? Are there even plans to take care of a president who gets way off the beam???I do not know for sure.? But I would be willing to bet good money that there are such plans. >? >The point is, we need to know now at 7500 registered Libertarians in the state what we will do when we have 9500, or 12,000 or 15,000 or 20,000.? We need to have discussed and put into writing what we will do when we do when word of mouth has reached everybody that word of mouth can reach.? When everyone who goes to a gun show has seen us and knows how much we support the 2nd amendment.? When we have 10,000 registered Libertarians throughout the state and they are spread out and feeling like their voice is the only voice and they decide "The party does not do anything, and I am the only one saying these things so I may as well stop because I am all by myself." >? >And evidently talking, planning and bringing up ideas for discussion actually offends some people.? Well too bad!? It is what organizations do.? It is what political parties do.? They plan.? They discuss and they try to have ideas. >? >bws > > >From: Reed Ebarb mailto:secretary at lplouisiana.org >To: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors mailto:scc at lplouisiana.org >Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:44 PM >Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Advertising > > >Since Ms. Adams is interested in organizing parishs and we are not >providing the proper funds, would it be possible for her to take a full >time job where she makes what she wants and she can still volunteer to >help organize parishes? If we aren't paying her enough, that sounds like >the best course. This is especially true now that Mr. Hayes' pledges are >backing out. > >> Boyd, >> >> There are some other considerations here as well.? Of particular note is >> what is in the contract that we are paying for and what is being >> provided.? There's nothing wrong, and in fact, much outstanding and >> great, about what is being provided.? The sticking point is we set a >> price for certain services, this list does not include the work the ED >> is actually spending most of her time on.? As Reed noted, we don't have >> the funding levels to support the work actually being done in the >> current fashion, and now that pledges are backing out, that foundation >> is even more tenuous. >> >> The present contract payment level is unsustainable at present. It was >> only offered to secure a signature.? We operated on dangerous ground for >> 8 weeks without a contract.? I still don't know if that time would be >> sufficient to establish an "employer/employee" relationship under the >> law.? We don't need that headache and all that comes with it. >> >> That isn't going to happen again. >> >> My records and projections show our original amount of $200-$250 a week >> for what we were asking for is right on target for the upper limit of >> what we can afford to pay.? Closer analysis by myself and Mr. Ebarb >> shows what we were specifically contracting for likely falls even less >> than that - closer to $150 a week. That difference would provide more >> cushion for other projects and still get the tasks we set out in the >> contract accomplished. >> >> The issue isn't, is the work being done of value? - it is. >> >> The issue isn't simply, can we afford it? - we can't. >> >> The bigger issue, the one that will control the final decision - is what >> do we really need that matches what we can afford?? And what were we >> asking for and what were we getting? >> >> I have no beef with Ms. Adams concerning her ability to organize people >> into functioning parish affiliates.? She's done excellent in that >> regard.? And, I understand she needs full time employment. >> >> The problem is we not only didn't task her with being responsible for >> organizing those parishes, I specifically instructed several times that >> was not part of her duties, that if she did so anyway - she was doing so >> as a volunteer, and that the original contract terms still had to be >> fulfilled - they could not be put on the back burner.? I even had to >> re-word the contract terms to put more emphasis on this point. >> >> The problem is we simply are not in a position to offer to pay someone >> $26k a year right now.? We are at best, able to offer part-time work and >> part-time pay at about half or less than that amount. >> >> We will get to the point everyone wants us to get to eventually.? But >> we'll have to walk a bit, rather than break out into a full sprint. >> >> >> -- In Liberty, >> >> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >> >> On 04/10/2013 02:51 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: >>> >>> As long as we can do it with out cutting Ms. Adams' money.? She is >>> worth it and we need to hold on to her.? Especially with losing you >>> and Wes concentrating on EBR. >>> bws >>> *From:* Reed Ebarb >>> *To:* Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 10, 2013 2:41 PM >>> *Subject:* Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Advertising >>> >>> You make a really good point Boyd. At this next meeting, lets rework our >>> budget and look at cutting our costs so we can put more money into >>> advertising. >>> >>> > I agree 100%. >>> > >>> > -- In Liberty, >>> > >>> > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>> > Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>> > >>> > On 04/10/2013 09:02 AM, Boyd Smith wrote: >>> >> Here is an issue that we are going to have to make room for in the >>> >> meeting Saturday.? And I will do as much as I can to make the part >>> >> that may take up time that we need take as little time as possible >>> and >>> >> to make it be as painless and actually productive as possible.? But >>> >> the issue relates to growing the party and performing advertising. >>> >> We will need to engage in actual advertising in some markets to both >>> >> grow the party, the PECs and the local base.? We will also likely >>> have >>> >> to engage in advertising to gather the support/people necessary to >>> >> form PECs in some parishes. Calcasieu is one of those special cases. >>> >> We do not have the luxury of waiting till we have 64 or even 10 PECs >>> >> formed.? There is a momentum that we have to maintain to continue >>> >> building the party.? We are at 7550 (approximately) we could very >>> well >>> >> get to 8500 from events like the Strawberry Festival, Gun Shows and >>> >> even word of mouth.? But, I think the limit of that is going to be >>> >> around 9000 - 10,000.? In order to become a viable force in this >>> state >>> >> for politics, for reform, and for liberty, we will need to get to >>> >> 25,000+.? And that is going to be only a start.? We are #3 now.? I >>> >> want to be #1.? I want to be able to look at the Elected Officials >>> >> Database and see Libertarians in elective office all across the >>> state. >>> >> To get candidates who can make a serious run at some of the higher >>> >> offices in the state (parish council/police jury, state rep, state >>> >> senate, congress, US Senate, Governor, ect) we need a large >>> membership >>> >> base.? To get a large membership base we will have to sell what we >>> >> have and what we have is ideas.? Good ideas, yes. But ideas - and >>> >> ideas while bullet proof are abstract concepts. They are not a hard >>> >> item like a vacuumcleaner or a tangible service like massage therapy. >>> >> They require propagation/marketing/advertising and we are getting >>> >> close to the point where we are going to have to market our ideas and >>> >> that is going to require an actual marketing campaign and >>> advertising. >>> >> Boyd W. Smith >>> >> Elections Officer >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> SCC mailing list >>> >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>> >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > SCC mailing list >>> > SCC at lplouisiana.org >>> > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>> > >>> >>> >>> If you have not already done so, please consider becoming a dues member >>> of >>> the Libertarian Party of Louisiana by visiting >>> louisianalibertarian.net >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SCC mailing list >>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SCC mailing list >>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> > > >If you have not already done so, please consider becoming a dues member of >the Libertarian Party of Louisiana by visiting louisianalibertarian.net > >_______________________________________________ >SCC mailing list >SCC at lplouisiana.org >http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > > > > >_______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chairman at lplouisiana.org Wed Apr 10 20:32:07 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 20:32:07 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Advertising In-Reply-To: <1365643240.17800.YahooMailNeo@web161905.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <5c43b8e78ca956b7c28fef82fd5dbe88.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> <1365602539.24607.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51657C80.2050401@lplouisiana.org> <8303f9ba241154f6ff95d06bbcf1515f.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> <1365623519.84818.YahooMailNeo@web161901.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <5165C929.4020104@lplouisiana.org> <974bc1c0b88b546d375b173a3f82b340.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> <1365639694.89111.YahooMailNeo@web161903.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51660BF0.5080006@lplouisiana.org> <1365643240.17800.YahooMailNeo@web161905.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <51661297.2020801@lplouisiana.org> Excellent. Cassidy won't be able to run in 2014 for House while he's running for Senate. But I think he said he would step down early to focus on the Senate race. I had read an article alluding to the upcoming special election to fill his seat being vacated for this purpose. It was not an original source however. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 04/10/2013 08:20 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: > I have CD 6 covered. Awaiting permission from the candidate to tell > the board. > The next special will most likely be the Orleans Parish Sheriff. > Cassidy will not have to step down to run as the elections are > concurrent. He just cannot run for both seats at the same time. > bws > > *From:* Adrien Monteleone > *To:* scc at lplouisiana.org > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 10, 2013 8:03 PM > *Subject:* Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Advertising > > Not incidentally, > > We missed a prime opportunity to hit the ground running and follow up > our Congressional slate with a slew of local offices last weekend. > > That was opportunity lost, and after lots of work on your part Boyd, > because some people decided for themselves and thus for the party, > that they had other priorities. > > We can't skip ANY elections. We certainly won't be able to recruit > someone into every race. But we also should never, from this point > forward, sit out an entire election. > > Already, a tight eye should be kept on special election possibilities > for the fall, and work needs to start now for the known races in 2014. > > We don't have a date yet, but we should expect a special election for > CD6 when Cassidy steps down to challenge Landrieu. > > Running candidates is advertisement. It's brand identification. It > energizes the base and builds interest in the party. It is not > optional. We are a political party, not a social club. > -- In Liberty, > > AdrienMonteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > On 04/10/2013 07:21 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: >> When I said that we will need to discuss advertising for the future, >> I meant just that. That it needs to be an agenda item. I am not >> sure how that would be done. I only know to say "Here is an issue we >> need to be talking about." We can not wait till too late to have a >> plan in place. >> It is like the Army. There are plans in the Pentagon for attacking >> any country on earth. Why do you think we went into Iraq so quickly >> and so well? We had those invasion plans for decades and they were >> updated regularly. The closer we got to having to do something the >> more those plans were updated with better and better intelligence. >> There are plans to invade Cuba, Mexico, Ireland, Egypt, any country >> on earth and several places that are not countries. Are there even >> plans to take care of a president who gets way off the beam? I do >> not know for sure. But I would be willing to bet good money that >> there are such plans. >> The point is, we need to know now at 7500 registered Libertarians in >> the state what we will do when we have 9500, or 12,000 or 15,000 or >> 20,000. We need to have discussed and put into writing what we will >> do when we do when word of mouth has reached everybody that word of >> mouth can reach. When everyone who goes to a gun show has seen us >> and knows how much we support the 2nd amendment. When we have 10,000 >> registered Libertarians throughout the state and they are spread out >> and feeling like their voice is the only voice and they decide "The >> party does not do anything, and I am the only one saying these things >> so I may as well stop because I am all by myself." >> And evidently talking, planning and bringing up ideas for discussion >> actually offends some people. Well too bad! It is what organizations >> do. It is what political parties do. They plan. They discuss and >> they try to have ideas. >> bws >> >> *From:* Reed Ebarb mailto:secretary at lplouisiana.org >> *To:* Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors mailto:scc at lplouisiana.org >> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:44 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Advertising >> >> Since Ms. Adams is interested in organizing parishs and we are not >> providing the proper funds, would it be possible for her to take a full >> time job where she makes what she wants and she can still volunteer to >> help organize parishes? If we aren't paying her enough, that sounds like >> the best course. This is especially true now that Mr. Hayes' pledges are >> backing out. >> >> > Boyd, >> > >> > There are some other considerations here as well. Of particular >> note is >> > what is in the contract that we are paying for and what is being >> > provided. There's nothing wrong, and in fact, much outstanding and >> > great, about what is being provided. The sticking point is we set a >> > price for certain services, this list does not include the work the ED >> > is actually spending most of her time on. As Reed noted, we don't have >> > the funding levels to support the work actually being done in the >> > current fashion, and now that pledges are backing out, that foundation >> > is even more tenuous. >> > >> > The present contract payment level is unsustainable at present. It was >> > only offered to secure a signature. We operated on dangerous >> ground for >> > 8 weeks without a contract. I still don't know if that time would be >> > sufficient to establish an "employer/employee" relationship under the >> > law. We don't need that headache and all that comes with it. >> > >> > That isn't going to happen again. >> > >> > My records and projections show our original amount of $200-$250 a week >> > for what we were asking for is right on target for the upper limit of >> > what we can afford to pay. Closer analysis by myself and Mr. Ebarb >> > shows what we were specifically contracting for likely falls even less >> > than that - closer to $150 a week. That difference would provide more >> > cushion for other projects and still get the tasks we set out in the >> > contract accomplished. >> > >> > The issue isn't, is the work being done of value? - it is. >> > >> > The issue isn't simply, can we afford it? - we can't. >> > >> > The bigger issue, the one that will control the final decision - is >> what >> > do we really need that matches what we can afford? And what were we >> > asking for and what were we getting? >> > >> > I have no beef with Ms. Adams concerning her ability to organize people >> > into functioning parish affiliates. She's done excellent in that >> > regard. And, I understand she needs full time employment. >> > >> > The problem is we not only didn't task her with being responsible for >> > organizing those parishes, I specifically instructed several times that >> > was not part of her duties, that if she did so anyway - she was >> doing so >> > as a volunteer, and that the original contract terms still had to be >> > fulfilled - they could not be put on the back burner. I even had to >> > re-word the contract terms to put more emphasis on this point. >> > >> > The problem is we simply are not in a position to offer to pay someone >> > $26k a year right now. We are at best, able to offer part-time >> work and >> > part-time pay at about half or less than that amount. >> > >> > We will get to the point everyone wants us to get to eventually. But >> > we'll have to walk a bit, rather than break out into a full sprint. >> > >> > >> > -- In Liberty, >> > >> > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >> > Libertarian Party of Louisiana >> > >> > On 04/10/2013 02:51 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: >> >> >> >> As long as we can do it with out cutting Ms. Adams' money. She is >> >> worth it and we need to hold on to her. Especially with losing you >> >> and Wes concentrating on EBR. >> >> bws >> >> *From:* Reed Ebarb > > >> >> *To:* Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors > > >> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 10, 2013 2:41 PM >> >> *Subject:* Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Advertising >> >> >> >> You make a really good point Boyd. At this next meeting, lets >> rework our >> >> budget and look at cutting our costs so we can put more money into >> >> advertising. >> >> >> >> > I agree 100%. >> >> > >> >> > -- In Liberty, >> >> > >> >> > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >> >> > Libertarian Party of Louisiana >> >> > >> >> > On 04/10/2013 09:02 AM, Boyd Smith wrote: >> >> >> Here is an issue that we are going to have to make room for in the >> >> >> meeting Saturday. And I will do as much as I can to make the part >> >> >> that may take up time that we need take as little time as possible >> >> and >> >> >> to make it be as painless and actually productive as possible. But >> >> >> the issue relates to growing the party and performing advertising. >> >> >> We will need to engage in actual advertising in some markets to >> both >> >> >> grow the party, the PECs and the local base. We will also likely >> >> have >> >> >> to engage in advertising to gather the support/people necessary to >> >> >> form PECs in some parishes. Calcasieu is one of those special >> cases. >> >> >> We do not have the luxury of waiting till we have 64 or even 10 >> PECs >> >> >> formed. There is a momentum that we have to maintain to continue >> >> >> building the party. We are at 7550 (approximately) we could very >> >> well >> >> >> get to 8500 from events like the Strawberry Festival, Gun Shows and >> >> >> even word of mouth. But, I think the limit of that is going to be >> >> >> around 9000 - 10,000. In order to become a viable force in this >> >> state >> >> >> for politics, for reform, and for liberty, we will need to get to >> >> >> 25,000+. And that is going to be only a start. We are #3 now. I >> >> >> want to be #1. I want to be able to look at the Elected Officials >> >> >> Database and see Libertarians in elective office all across the >> >> state. >> >> >> To get candidates who can make a serious run at some of the higher >> >> >> offices in the state (parish council/police jury, state rep, state >> >> >> senate, congress, US Senate, Governor, ect) we need a large >> >> membership >> >> >> base. To get a large membership base we will have to sell what we >> >> >> have and what we have is ideas. Good ideas, yes. But ideas - and >> >> >> ideas while bullet proof are abstract concepts. They are not a hard >> >> >> item like a vacuumcleaner or a tangible service like massage >> therapy. >> >> >> They require propagation/marketing/advertising and we are getting >> >> >> close to the point where we are going to have to market our >> ideas and >> >> >> that is going to require an actual marketing campaign and >> >> advertising. >> >> >> Boyd W. Smith >> >> >> Elections Officer >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> SCC mailing list >> >> >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> > >> >> >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> >> > >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > SCC mailing list >> >> > SCC at lplouisiana.org >> > >> >> > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> If you have not already done so, please consider becoming a dues >> member >> >> of >> >> the Libertarian Party of Louisiana by visiting >> >> louisianalibertarian.net >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> SCC mailing list >> >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> > >> >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> SCC mailing list >> >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > SCC mailing list >> > SCC at lplouisiana.org >> > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> > >> >> >> If you have not already done so, please consider becoming a dues >> member of >> the Libertarian Party of Louisiana by visiting louisianalibertarian.net >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: chairman.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 297 bytes Desc: not available URL: From boydw.smith at yahoo.com Wed Apr 10 20:45:51 2013 From: boydw.smith at yahoo.com (Boyd Smith) Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 18:45:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Advertising In-Reply-To: <51661297.2020801@lplouisiana.org> References: <5c43b8e78ca956b7c28fef82fd5dbe88.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> <1365602539.24607.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51657C80.2050401@lplouisiana.org> <8303f9ba241154f6ff95d06bbcf1515f.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> <1365623519.84818.YahooMailNeo@web161901.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <5165C929.4020104@lplouisiana.org> <974bc1c0b88b546d375b173a3f82b340.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> <1365639694.89111.YahooMailNeo@web161903.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51660BF0.5080006@lplouisiana.org> <1365643240.17800.YahooMailNeo@web161905.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51661297.2020801@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <1365644751.66603.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I will check that out. ? bws ________________________________ From: Adrien Monteleone To: scc at lplouisiana.org Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 8:32 PM Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Advertising Excellent. Cassidy won't be able to run in 2014 for House while he's running for Senate. But I think he said he would step down early to focus on the Senate race.? I had read an article alluding to the upcoming special election to fill his seat being vacated for this purpose. It was not an original source however. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 04/10/2013 08:20 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: I have CD 6 covered.? Awaiting permission from the candidate to tell the board. >? >The next special will most likely be the Orleans Parish Sheriff.? Cassidy will not have to step down to run as the elections are concurrent. He just cannot run for both seats at the same time. >? >bws > > >From: Adrien Monteleone mailto:chairman at lplouisiana.org >To: scc at lplouisiana.org >Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 8:03 PM >Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Advertising > > > >Not incidentally, > >We missed a prime opportunity to hit the ground running and follow up our Congressional slate with a slew of local offices last weekend. > >That was opportunity lost, and after lots of work on your part Boyd, because some people decided for themselves and thus for the party, that they had other priorities. > >We can't skip ANY elections.? We certainly won't be able to recruit someone into every race.? But we also should never, from this point forward, sit out an entire election. > >Already, a tight eye should be kept on special election possibilities for the fall, and work needs to start now for the known races in 2014. > >We don't have a date yet, but we should expect a special election for CD6 when Cassidy steps down to challenge Landrieu. > >Running candidates is advertisement. It's brand identification. It energizes the base and builds interest in the party.? It is not optional.? We are a political party, not a social club. >-- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 04/10/2013 07:21 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: > >When I said that we will need to discuss advertising for the future, I meant just that.? That it needs to be an agenda item.? I am not sure how that would be done.? I only know to say "Here is an issue we need to be talking about."? We can not wait till too late to have a plan in place.? >>? >>It is like the Army.? There are plans in the Pentagon for attacking any country on earth.? Why do you think we went into Iraq so quickly and so well?? We had those invasion plans for decades and they were updated regularly.? The closer we got to having to do something the more those plans were updated with better and better intelligence. >>? >>There are plans to invade Cuba, Mexico, Ireland, Egypt, any country on earth and several places that are not countries.? Are there even plans to take care of a president who gets way off the beam???I do not know for sure.? But I would be willing to bet good money that there are such plans. >>? >>The point is, we need to know now at 7500 registered Libertarians in the state what we will do when we have 9500, or 12,000 or 15,000 or 20,000.? We need to have discussed and put into writing what we will do when we do when word of mouth has reached everybody that word of mouth can reach.? When everyone who goes to a gun show has seen us and knows how much we support the 2nd amendment.? When we have 10,000 registered Libertarians throughout the state and they are spread out and feeling like their voice is the only voice and they decide "The party does not do anything, and I am the only one saying these things so I may as well stop because I am all by myself." >>? >>And evidently talking, planning and bringing up ideas for discussion actually offends some people.? Well too bad!? It is what organizations do.? It is what political parties do.? They plan.? They discuss and they try to have ideas. >>? >>bws >> >> >>From: Reed Ebarb mailto:secretary at lplouisiana.org >>To: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors mailto:scc at lplouisiana.org >>Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:44 PM >>Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Advertising >> >> >>Since Ms. Adams is interested in organizing parishs and we are not >>providing the proper funds, would it be possible for her to take a full >>time job where she makes what she wants and she can still volunteer to >>help organize parishes? If we aren't paying her enough, that sounds like >>the best course. This is especially true now that Mr. Hayes' pledges are >>backing out. >> >>> Boyd, >>> >>> There are some other considerations here as well.? Of particular note is >>> what is in the contract that we are paying for and what is being >>> provided.? There's nothing wrong, and in fact, much outstanding and >>> great, about what is being provided.? The sticking point is we set a >>> price for certain services, this list does not include the work the ED >>> is actually spending most of her time on.? As Reed noted, we don't have >>> the funding levels to support the work actually being done in the >>> current fashion, and now that pledges are backing out, that foundation >>> is even more tenuous. >>> >>> The present contract payment level is unsustainable at present. It was >>> only offered to secure a signature.? We operated on dangerous ground for >>> 8 weeks without a contract.? I still don't know if that time would be >>> sufficient to establish an "employer/employee" relationship under the >>> law.? We don't need that headache and all that comes with it. >>> >>> That isn't going to happen again. >>> >>> My records and projections show our original amount of $200-$250 a week >>> for what we were asking for is right on target for the upper limit of >>> what we can afford to pay.? Closer analysis by myself and Mr. Ebarb >>> shows what we were specifically contracting for likely falls even less >>> than that - closer to $150 a week. That difference would provide more >>> cushion for other projects and still get the tasks we set out in the >>> contract accomplished. >>> >>> The issue isn't, is the work being done of value? - it is. >>> >>> The issue isn't simply, can we afford it? - we can't. >>> >>> The bigger issue, the one that will control the final decision - is what >>> do we really need that matches what we can afford?? And what were we >>> asking for and what were we getting? >>> >>> I have no beef with Ms. Adams concerning her ability to organize people >>> into functioning parish affiliates.? She's done excellent in that >>> regard.? And, I understand she needs full time employment. >>> >>> The problem is we not only didn't task her with being responsible for >>> organizing those parishes, I specifically instructed several times that >>> was not part of her duties, that if she did so anyway - she was doing so >>> as a volunteer, and that the original contract terms still had to be >>> fulfilled - they could not be put on the back burner.? I even had to >>> re-word the contract terms to put more emphasis on this point. >>> >>> The problem is we simply are not in a position to offer to pay someone >>> $26k a year right now.? We are at best, able to offer part-time work and >>> part-time pay at about half or less than that amount. >>> >>> We will get to the point everyone wants us to get to eventually.? But >>> we'll have to walk a bit, rather than break out into a full sprint. >>> >>> >>> -- In Liberty, >>> >>> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>> >>> On 04/10/2013 02:51 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: >>>> >>>> As long as we can do it with out cutting Ms. Adams' money.? She is >>>> worth it and we need to hold on to her.? Especially with losing you >>>> and Wes concentrating on EBR. >>>> bws >>>> *From:* Reed Ebarb >>>> *To:* Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors >>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 10, 2013 2:41 PM >>>> *Subject:* Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Advertising >>>> >>>> You make a really good point Boyd. At this next meeting, lets rework our >>>> budget and look at cutting our costs so we can put more money into >>>> advertising. >>>> >>>> > I agree 100%. >>>> > >>>> > -- In Liberty, >>>> > >>>> > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >>>> > Libertarian Party of Louisiana >>>> > >>>> > On 04/10/2013 09:02 AM, Boyd Smith wrote: >>>> >> Here is an issue that we are going to have to make room for in the >>>> >> meeting Saturday.? And I will do as much as I can to make the part >>>> >> that may take up time that we need take as little time as possible >>>> and >>>> >> to make it be as painless and actually productive as possible.? But >>>> >> the issue relates to growing the party and performing advertising. >>>> >> We will need to engage in actual advertising in some markets to both >>>> >> grow the party, the PECs and the local base.? We will also likely >>>> have >>>> >> to engage in advertising to gather the support/people necessary to >>>> >> form PECs in some parishes. Calcasieu is one of those special cases. >>>> >> We do not have the luxury of waiting till we have 64 or even 10 PECs >>>> >> formed.? There is a momentum that we have to maintain to continue >>>> >> building the party.? We are at 7550 (approximately) we could very >>>> well >>>> >> get to 8500 from events like the Strawberry Festival, Gun Shows and >>>> >> even word of mouth.? But, I think the limit of that is going to be >>>> >> around 9000 - 10,000.? In order to become a viable force in this >>>> state >>>> >> for politics, for reform, and for liberty, we will need to get to >>>> >> 25,000+.? And that is going to be only a start.? We are #3 now.? I >>>> >> want to be #1.? I want to be able to look at the Elected Officials >>>> >> Database and see Libertarians in elective office all across the >>>> state. >>>> >> To get candidates who can make a serious run at some of the higher >>>> >> offices in the state (parish council/police jury, state rep, state >>>> >> senate, congress, US Senate, Governor, ect) we need a large >>>> membership >>>> >> base.? To get a large membership base we will have to sell what we >>>> >> have and what we have is ideas.? Good ideas, yes. But ideas - and >>>> >> ideas while bullet proof are abstract concepts. They are not a hard >>>> >> item like a vacuumcleaner or a tangible service like massage therapy. >>>> >> They require propagation/marketing/advertising and we are getting >>>> >> close to the point where we are going to have to market our ideas and >>>> >> that is going to require an actual marketing campaign and >>>> advertising. >>>> >> Boyd W. Smith >>>> >> Elections Officer >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>> >> SCC mailing list >>>> >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>> >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > SCC mailing list >>>> > SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>> > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> If you have not already done so, please consider becoming a dues member >>>> of >>>> the Libertarian Party of Louisiana by visiting >>>> louisianalibertarian.net >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SCC mailing list >>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SCC mailing list >>>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SCC mailing list >>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >>> >> >> >>If you have not already done so, please consider becoming a dues member of >>the Libertarian Party of Louisiana by visiting louisianalibertarian.net >> >>_______________________________________________ >>SCC mailing list >>SCC at lplouisiana.org >>http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> >> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > >_______________________________________________ >SCC mailing list >SCC at lplouisiana.org >http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > > > > >_______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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While there is no power to enforce this orderby the Party, if you decide to speak of these issues outside of the Board, even toother Party members, you may be subject in your individual capacity to libel action in a court of lawbrought by the accused orhis counsel. -- -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I understand that Roberts Rules frown upon such things, but we are a small party and until we get big and are able to put a permanent connection in place for ad hoc meetings, we really need to have a formal procedure to have official discussions?by?electronic means.? We can put into place minimum lead times, minimum discussion times and a voting time period.? Or if after discussion we as the board decide to limit?all official business of the Board to the quarterly meting then that is the decision of the board, but we need to discuss it and vote it completely out, or in with rules in place to protect the integrity of the votes and discussions.? But we need to discuss it and vote it out or in regardless. ? Boyd W.?Smith? Elections Officer LPL From: Adrien Monteleone To: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 1:41 PM Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Investigative Committee Result To all Board members, The Investigative Committee taskedwith looking into thespecifications and charges against Mr. Lewis has conducted a full and thorough review of all of the information. They have voted to return "no bill" of charges against Mr. Lewis. Therefore, this matter is closed. There will not be a judicial hearing at the meeting this Saturday. Finalagenda will be posted this evening. The suspension of Mr. Lewis in his capacity as Vice-Chairman is hereby lifted effective immediately. -- -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chairman at lplouisiana.org Thu Apr 11 14:22:00 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 14:22:00 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Investigative Committee Result In-Reply-To: <1365707183.16084.YahooMailNeo@web161902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <516703EE.4030908@lplouisiana.org> <1365707183.16084.YahooMailNeo@web161902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <51670D58.7010604@lplouisiana.org> The Bylaws amendments have to wait for a convention, but we can pass a resolution asking the Bylaws committee to be formed down the road prior to that convention, to take up such issues. In the meantime we can pass a resolution expressing the sense of the Board that such actionsare inappropriate and potentiallyinjurious to the Board and the party Brand. As for email rules, there are some in place informally already. The problem was I did not get to pass them on to the new folks. I will be sending them to everyone later tonight. I think had everyone been more aware of those procedures, we would not have seen the discord we saw the last few days. As well, official rules have to wait for a convention. They are to be handled by the same convention committee. If we still want to discuss the present set of email procedures, we can do so. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 04/11/2013 02:06 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: > > If we have room on the agenda, I would like to discus revising the by > laws to prohibit people offering personal/business services during > meetings that are to discuss party business by officers, employees, or > members. Also to discuss Board members running for office while a > member of the board. > And to discuss adding in a section to clarify and formalize email > discussion and electronic voting for items that happen in between > Board meetings. I understand that Roberts Rules frown upon such > things, but we are a small party and until we get big and are able to > put a permanent connection in place for ad hoc meetings, we really > need to have a formal procedure to have official > discussions by electronic means. We can put into place minimum lead > times, minimum discussion times and a voting time period. Or if after > discussion we as the board decide to limit all official business of > the Board to the quarterly meting then that is the decision of the > board, but we need to discuss it and vote it completely out, or in > with rules in place to protect the integrity of the votes and > discussions. But we need to discussit and vote it out or in regardless. > Boyd W. Smith > Elections Officer > LPL > *From:* Adrien Monteleone > *To:* Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors > *Sent:* Thursday, April 11, 2013 1:41 PM > *Subject:* [LPL Board of Directors] Investigative Committee Result > > To all Board members, > > The Investigative Committee taskedwith looking into thespecifications > and charges against Mr. Lewis has conducted a full and thorough review > of all of the information. > > They have voted to return "no bill" of charges against Mr. Lewis. > > Therefore, this matter is closed. > > There will not be a judicial hearing at the meeting this Saturday. > > Finalagenda will be posted this evening. > > The suspension of Mr. Lewis in his capacity as Vice-Chairman is hereby > lifted effective immediately. > -- > -- In Liberty, > > AdrienMonteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Smith Elections Officer LPL From: Adrien Monteleone To: scc at lplouisiana.org Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 2:22 PM Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Investigative Committee Result The Bylaws amendments have to wait for a convention, but we can pass a resolution asking the Bylaws committee to be formed down the road prior to that convention, to take up such issues. In the meantime we can pass a resolution expressing the sense of the Board that such actionsare inappropriate and potentiallyinjurious to the Board and the party Brand. As for email rules, there are some in place informally already.? The problem was I did not get to pass them on to the new folks. I will be sending them to everyone later tonight. I think had everyone been more aware of those procedures, we would not have seen the discord we saw the last few days. As well, official rules have to wait for a convention.? They are to be handled by the same convention committee. If we still want to discuss the present set of email procedures, we can do so. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sccrep at jefferson.lplouisiana.org Thu Apr 11 14:48:50 2013 From: sccrep at jefferson.lplouisiana.org (Daniel Hayes) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 14:48:50 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Investigative Committee Result In-Reply-To: <1365708502.15147.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <516703EE.4030908@lplouisiana.org> <1365707183.16084.YahooMailNeo@web161902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51670D58.7010604@lplouisiana.org> <1365708502.15147.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: We could have a special convention..but the notifications to do that would be pricey. The next convention will be in 3 years if I am not mistaken. On 2013-04-11 14:28, Boyd Smith wrote: > When is the next convention? I think it would be a very good idea to > have these issues formally addressed. > > Boyd W. Smith > Elections Officer > LPL > > FROM: Adrien Monteleone > TO: scc at lplouisiana.org > SENT: Thursday, April 11, 2013 2:22 PM > SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Investigative Committee Result > > The Bylaws amendments have to wait for a convention, but we can pass > a resolution asking the Bylaws committee to be formed down the road > prior to that convention, to take up such issues. > > In the meantime we can pass a resolution expressing the sense of the > Board that such actions are inappropriate and potentially injurious > to > the Board and the party Brand. > > As for email rules, there are some in place informally already. The > problem was I did not get to pass them on to the new folks. > > I will be sending them to everyone later tonight. > > I think had everyone been more aware of those procedures, we would > not have seen the discord we saw the last few days. > > As well, official rules have to wait for a convention. They are to be > handled by the same convention committee. > > If we still want to discuss the present set of email procedures, we > can do so. > > -- In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org From sccrep at jefferson.lplouisiana.org Thu Apr 11 14:56:46 2013 From: sccrep at jefferson.lplouisiana.org (Daniel Hayes) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 14:56:46 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Investigative Committee Result In-Reply-To: <1365708502.15147.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <516703EE.4030908@lplouisiana.org> <1365707183.16084.YahooMailNeo@web161902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51670D58.7010604@lplouisiana.org> <1365708502.15147.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1579b65b488fda9648ecc086c3086dee@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> Oh..I forgot to mention that I am all for amending the by laws, one of the main by laws I want to amend are the ones that make it virtually impossible to amend but ever 4 years. Also, its as hard or harder to change/create standing rules as it is to change the by laws. Obviously, changes to the by laws should be difficult to do, but to be essentially unable to do but every 4 years is a bit too rough. I am all for the By Laws committee. On 2013-04-11 14:28, Boyd Smith wrote: > When is the next convention? I think it would be a very good idea to > have these issues formally addressed. > > Boyd W. Smith > Elections Officer > LPL > > FROM: Adrien Monteleone > TO: scc at lplouisiana.org > SENT: Thursday, April 11, 2013 2:22 PM > SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Investigative Committee Result > > The Bylaws amendments have to wait for a convention, but we can pass > a resolution asking the Bylaws committee to be formed down the road > prior to that convention, to take up such issues. > > In the meantime we can pass a resolution expressing the sense of the > Board that such actions are inappropriate and potentially injurious > to > the Board and the party Brand. > > As for email rules, there are some in place informally already. The > problem was I did not get to pass them on to the new folks. > > I will be sending them to everyone later tonight. > > I think had everyone been more aware of those procedures, we would > not have seen the discord we saw the last few days. > > As well, official rules have to wait for a convention. They are to be > handled by the same convention committee. > > If we still want to discuss the present set of email procedures, we > can do so. > > -- In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org From chairman at lplouisiana.org Thu Apr 11 15:09:22 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 15:09:22 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Investigative Committee Result In-Reply-To: <1365708502.15147.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <516703EE.4030908@lplouisiana.org> <1365707183.16084.YahooMailNeo@web161902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51670D58.7010604@lplouisiana.org> <1365708502.15147.YahooMailNeo@web161906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <51671872.5000707@lplouisiana.org> Not until 2016. There is an option for a special convention to deal with issues, but keep in mind that will be an expense for the Party. I wouldn't recommend one, but if it has to happen, maybe later this year, or for 2014. Otherwise, as I noted, they can be formally addressed by resolutions of the Board that will serve as "standing policy" until such time as the rules and Bylaws can be changed. That will also give a "trial period" for the Board to get used to operating under these new rules before they are enshrined in Bylaws and Special Rules that are difficult to change. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 04/11/2013 02:28 PM, Boyd Smith wrote: > When is the next convention? I think it would be a very good idea to > have these issues formally addressed. > Boyd W. Smith > Elections Officer > LPL > > *From:* Adrien Monteleone > *To:* scc at lplouisiana.org > *Sent:* Thursday, April 11, 2013 2:22 PM > *Subject:* Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Investigative Committee Result > > The Bylaws amendments have to wait for a convention, but we can pass a > resolution asking the Bylaws committee to be formed down the road > prior to that convention, to take up such issues. > > In the meantime we can pass a resolution expressing the sense of the > Board that such actionsare inappropriate and potentiallyinjurious to > the Board and the party Brand. > > As for email rules, there are some in place informally already. The > problem was I did not get to pass them on to the new folks. > > I will be sending them to everyone later tonight. > > I think had everyone been more aware of those procedures, we would not > have seen the discord we saw the last few days. > > As well, official rules have to wait for a convention. They are to be > handled by the same convention committee. > > If we still want to discuss the present set of email procedures, we > can do so. > -- In Liberty, > > AdrienMonteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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But with the party growingnow, perhaps we could hold a special convention in 2014, divide up election of officers accordingly, and have Bylaws debate at Mid-Term conventions and Platform debate at Presidential conventions. (thus moving to conventions every 2 years) The problem with theRules is that the Board can't make their ownrules they are governed by, that needs to be done by the general membership. But we did set it so they only need a majority vote instead of the 2/3 that isneeded by the Bylaws. Generally, you don't want to be able to change Bylaws or Rules too easily. That is a place where you want stability, same for officers. In cases like the email problem - that is within the purview of the Chair from what I can tell under Robert's. In that case, the Board could adopt a standing rule of procedureon the matter. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 04/11/2013 02:56 PM, Daniel Hayes wrote: > Oh..I forgot to mention that I am all for amending the by laws, one of > the main by laws I want to amend are the ones that make it virtually > impossible to amend but ever 4 years. Also, its as hard or harder to > change/create standing rules as it is to change the by laws. > Obviously, changes to the by laws should be difficult to do, but to be > essentially unable to do but every 4 years is a bit too rough. I am > all for the By Laws committee. > > > On 2013-04-11 14:28, Boyd Smith wrote: >> When is the next convention? I think it would be a very good idea to >> have these issues formally addressed. >> >> Boyd W. Smith >> Elections Officer >> LPL >> >> FROM: Adrien Monteleone >> TO: scc at lplouisiana.org >> SENT: Thursday, April 11, 2013 2:22 PM >> SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Investigative Committee Result >> >> The Bylaws amendments have to wait for a convention, but we can pass >> a resolution asking the Bylaws committee to be formed down the road >> prior to that convention, to take up such issues. >> >> In the meantime we can pass a resolution expressing the sense of the >> Board that such actions are inappropriate and potentially injurious to >> the Board and the party Brand. >> >> As for email rules, there are some in place informally already. The >> problem was I did not get to pass them on to the new folks. >> >> I will be sending them to everyone later tonight. >> >> I think had everyone been more aware of those procedures, we would >> not have seen the discord we saw the last few days. >> >> As well, official rules have to wait for a convention. They are to be >> handled by the same convention committee. >> >> If we still want to discuss the present set of email procedures, we >> can do so. >> >> -- In Liberty, >> >> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The next convention will be in 3 years if I am not > mistaken. > > > On 2013-04-11 14:28, Boyd Smith wrote: >> When is the next convention? I think it would be a very good idea to >> have these issues formally addressed. >> >> Boyd W. Smith >> Elections Officer >> LPL >> >> FROM: Adrien Monteleone >> TO: scc at lplouisiana.org >> SENT: Thursday, April 11, 2013 2:22 PM >> SUBJECT: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Investigative Committee Result >> >> The Bylaws amendments have to wait for a convention, but we can pass >> a resolution asking the Bylaws committee to be formed down the road >> prior to that convention, to take up such issues. >> >> In the meantime we can pass a resolution expressing the sense of the >> Board that such actions are inappropriate and potentially injurious to >> the Board and the party Brand. >> >> As for email rules, there are some in place informally already. The >> problem was I did not get to pass them on to the new folks. >> >> I will be sending them to everyone later tonight. >> >> I think had everyone been more aware of those procedures, we would >> not have seen the discord we saw the last few days. >> >> As well, official rules have to wait for a convention. They are to be >> handled by the same convention committee. >> >> If we still want to discuss the present set of email procedures, we >> can do so. >> >> -- In Liberty, >> >> Adrien Monteleone - Chairman >> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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As the office of Treasurer was vacated on October 6th, 2012by nonattendance of David Chance, and the Secretary, under Article 7?4 has been serving as Acting Treasurer since then, I hereby appoint Caleb Trotter to the office of Treasurer. Caleb has a background in business and economics, and is currently a law student. He also served as our candidate for U.S. House district 2 in 2012. He is active in his local Orleans parish affiliateand I believe he will make a fine Treasurer. Added to the agenda for Saturday will be a confirmation vote of this appointment. Acting Treasurer Reed Ebarb and myself will work with Caleb over the next few days and weeks to see to it that there is an orderly transition of access to the bank account and financial records. Caleb will haveaccess to the Treasurer's LPL email address in the next few days, until then, you can reach him at caleb at calebtrotter.com, or find him on his blog NOLAtarian.com -- -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: chairman.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 308 bytes Desc: not available URL: From sccrep at jefferson.lplouisiana.org Thu Apr 11 17:37:14 2013 From: sccrep at jefferson.lplouisiana.org (Daniel Hayes) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 17:37:14 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Vacancy Appointment - Treasurer In-Reply-To: <516725D3.30709@lplouisiana.org> References: <516725D3.30709@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <2ebda7d7feecf45a3abf4b83a9ecd0dd@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> Also, if people want further background on Caleb, There are videos of some speeches he gives durin on his website calebtrotter.com. On 2013-04-11 16:06, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > To all Board members, > > Per the Bylaws, Article 8 ? 7(b): > > "7. Vacancies which may occur in the State Central Committee, for > any reason, > shall be filled as follows: > ... > b. In the case that the offices of Vice-Chairman, Secretary or > Treasurer is > vacated the Chairman shall appoint, with the approval of the State > Central > Committee, a successor to serve the remainder of the term of that > office." > > As the office of Treasurer was vacated on October 6th, 2012 by > nonattendance of David Chance, and the Secretary, under Article 7 ?4 > has been serving as Acting Treasurer since then, I hereby appoint > Caleb Trotter to the office of Treasurer. > > Caleb has a background in business and economics, and is currently a > law student.? He also served as our candidate for U.S. House district > 2 in 2012.? He is active in his local Orleans parish affiliate and I > believe he will make a fine Treasurer. > > Added to the agenda for Saturday will be a confirmation vote of this > appointment. > > Acting Treasurer Reed Ebarb and myself will work with Caleb over the > next few days and weeks to see to it that there is an orderly > transition of access to the bank account and financial records. > > Caleb will have access to the Treasurer's LPL email address in the > next few days, until then, you can reach him at > caleb at calebtrotter.com, or find him on his blog NOLAtarian.com > > -- > -- In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org From secretary at lplouisiana.org Fri Apr 12 13:56:40 2013 From: secretary at lplouisiana.org (Reed Ebarb) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 13:56:40 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Resignation Message-ID: <3bc5d8fdd04a3a50195407b6a67541af.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> I submit my resignation to the chairman and LPL Board of Directors effective upon the chairman's reciept of my notice. Sincerely, Reed Ebarb LPL Secretary LPL Acting Treasurer If you have not already done so, please consider becoming a dues member of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana by visiting louisianalibertarian.net From membership at lplouisiana.org Fri Apr 12 14:13:37 2013 From: membership at lplouisiana.org (Membership LPL) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 14:13:37 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Resignation In-Reply-To: <3bc5d8fdd04a3a50195407b6a67541af.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> References: <3bc5d8fdd04a3a50195407b6a67541af.squirrel@webmail.lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <000001ce37b1$d6212ac0$82638040$@org> Sorry to see you go Reed. Hope to be working with you again soon. --------------------------- Howard Kearney Membership -----Original Message----- From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of Reed Ebarb Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 1:57 PM To: Scc at LPlouisiana.org Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Resignation I submit my resignation to the chairman and LPL Board of Directors effective upon the chairman's reciept of my notice. Sincerely, Reed Ebarb LPL Secretary LPL Acting Treasurer If you have not already done so, please consider becoming a dues member of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana by visiting louisianalibertarian.net _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org From chairman at lplouisiana.org Fri Apr 12 15:35:42 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 15:35:42 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Executive Director Contract Message-ID: <5168701E.2070508@lplouisiana.org> To all Board members, Per the LPL Bylaws Article 7 ? 1(a)(i): "1. The executive officers of the Party shall be a: a. Chairman who shall: i. be the chief executive officer of the Party with full authority to direct its business and affairs, including hiring and discharging of Party volunteers and paid personnel, subject to express State Central Committee policies and directives issued in the exercise of the State Central Committee's plenary control and management of Party affairs, properties, and funds; " I accordingly did in September of 2012, offer and sign a contract for services as Executive Director to Wendy A. Adams. At the 4th Quarter SCC meeting held in Baton Rouge on October 6th, I asked the committee to approve extending a new contract for one quarter on the same terms we operated under during September, which they did approve and Ms. Adams did sign. At the 1st Quarter SCC meeting held in Shreveport on January 12th, I asked the committee to approve extending a new contract for one year on slightly modified terms for higher pay, (25% increase) which they did approve, but which Ms. Adams did not sign or accept, though we continued to operate under good faith that it would be signed. On February 28th, I obtained approval from the Board for specific terms for incentive and bonus pay to be added to the contract, as well as making the expense stipend more general so as not to be limited to travel expenses alone. Ms. Adams rejected this contract as well, particularly the bonus and incentive options which she had requested.(she requested such options but she rejected the exact terms and mechanisms for calculating the bonuses and what the incentives were based on - she thought she should dictate to us what she should be provided incentive for or rewarded for, rather than us offering to reward her for what we wanted accomplished, or providing incentive for what we wanted done.) On March 8th, after consultation with the Acting Treasurer Reed Ebarb, I offered Ms. Adams a final offer without incentive or bonus pay, with the amended expense provision, though reduced in amount (since some had been used already) and with a 100% increase in base pay over the amount offered in the 4Q 2012 contract. This contract was signed on March 8th, and will expire today, Friday, April 12th, 2013. (the term was shortened from one year, because we had to offer an amount we could not safely estimate was feasible for a longer term) The Bylaws give the Chair full authority of hiring and discharging of paid personnel. (in line with express SCC policies) As there are no SCC policies on these subjects at this time, the Chair's authority in this matter is not restrained or curtailed. Additionally, I have informally begun the practice to set a precedent, through the meetings of October 6th, and January 12th, to offer a contract, and ask for approval from the committee. In the absence of explicit policies, I did this both for the reasons of informing the Board and securing their support of such action, and also to ensure the Board set aside room in the budget for such an expense. I see that it is proper for the Chair to seek approval to spend money, especially in such large sums and taking up such a large percentage of the budget. However, there is no need to seek approval NOT to spend funds. Certainly, I felt it wise to seek confirmation and support of hiring an individual who would be the public face of the party on a daily basis. I do not see any requirement to seek approval to NOT hire someone. Let me make it clear. I am not discharging any paid personnel. The contract ends today. I am simply not hiring Ms. Adams via offering another contract. Nor am I hiring her as an employee. There is thus, nothing to seek Board approval on, nor do the Bylaws require such. Thus I am informing this Board that I will not be offering Ms. Adams a new contract on April 13th. My reasonings for this are many, and in the spirit I have begun with previous meetings, I will now give some of them below, but if any Board member wishes to discuss these reasons, I will speak with them individually and privately at our mutual convenience, though I don't know that I have much more to offer that isn't already explained here. I will offer no more public justification for my decision than what is below. This is a courtesy offered by the Chair out of respect for the opinions of the Board, but it is not required by the Bylaws. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ *#1 - Availability of funds, cost of contract* The original contract offered in September, and the 4Q contract were both for $200 per week. We were able to meet this expense, though from a cash flow perspective, had ended the year in a slightly smaller position financially in our final bank balance. We nearly were not able to even complete the contract with almost a month to go. We were fortunate that some late donations just prior to Christmas got us through. The Finance Chair and the Acting Treasurer estimated and projected our expenses and revenue for 2013 and determined that the absolute most we could offer was $250 per week. Because Ms. Adams wanted the security of a one-year term on the contract, we were unable to safely offer a higher base amount, being unable to reasonably determine that the increased donations needed to support that higher amount would come in. As of her refusal to sign the contract on February 28th, we had paid Ms. Adams more than we had taken in that year. We were again, operating at a loss, and we had other expenses on top of this. The bank account balance was dwindling fast. Ms. Adams insisted there was a "pile of money" we were sitting on, that she was bringing in with her efforts, and that we simply were not compensating her with that money. Despite being shown this to be patently false, and that we had paid her more than we received, she continued to insist we were holding out on her and were able to pay her more. During the consultation with the Acting Treasurer, Reed Ebarb, he and I determined that at the extreme outside, if we collected absolutely no additional funds, and already counting pledged funds and those in the pipeline, we could pay her $400 per week, but that would nearly deplete the bank account by the April 13th meeting. (we would have a small cushion left over, and might run out a week or two later from other expenses) At that time, the pace of fund-raising had sharply declined and so we could not reliably predict that we would have sufficient funds to continue past April 13th. We were fortunate a few generous donors came to our rescue. Two members donated $250 and $500 respectively, and one with a pledge for matching funds up to $1000 to encourage other donors. All together, these two efforts secured us an additional $2750. As of February 28th, our bank balance was $1121.46. This amount included about $750 of the aforementioned $2750, meaning without the matching funds pledge, we would have been at $371.46 on that date, with a $500 contract payment due on March 11th. By March 8th, we had received and deposited the $1000 matching pledge, and another generous check from another donor for $250. This left us with a balance on the date we signed the contract, of $2393.59. (note, there were other transactions in the meantime so don't try to follow all the math here exactly) The contract we signed was for $2000. We had already seen the donations on Piryx for $750 as mentioned, so we expected at that point to have a cushion of about $1000 total if we collected no additional funds, however, we had a regular payment on March 11th of $500 - not technically under contract, but under good faith. This would leave us with $500 after April 13th, baring more donations and not counting other expenses. Additionally, we suffered a $135 charge back due to a donor error shortly thereafter, further reducing funds. Over the course of the next five weeks, small donations steadily rolled in to shore up our cash flow. As of today, our balance is $2240.97 with about $100 in the Piryx pipeline which has not cleared yet. We have a final $400 contract payment to make today, which will leave us with $1935 in the bank after everything clears. There is still up in the air, a request for reimbursement of $240. (detailed below) Note, this is less than we had on the date we signed the contract on March 8th, and had we not received the matching funds pledge to encourage donations, or the other generous one time donations all totaling $3000, we would have had to cancel the contract about 3 weeks ago. In fact, it was only because we knew of some of those donations in transit that we even agreed to continue with the position at all. Had they not been there, had the matching pledge not been made, it is likely we would not have even made it to February 28th. As I noted, by that date, we had paid her more than we had taken in, not counting other expenses. Our cash on hand at the end of 2012 was about $1800. As noted above, by Monday, it will be about $1935. (or $1695 after the reimbursement) We are barely getting buy, cashflow is extremely tight, sometimes with the bank balance dipping below $1000, we've effectively been able to pay the ED only what has been paid in the past and no more, and that was only possible with a perfect timing of four large donors. This is not a reliable pattern we can safely project the future on. The money simply is not there at this time to support a full time staff member. Additionally, Ms. Adams wants a minimum of $26k a year We simply are in no position to offer full time employment for anyone and certainly not at this pay level. (the $250 per week we originally offered came out to $13k for the year) I am nearly finished with a GAAP compliant Income Statement, Statement of Financial Position (balance sheet) and Cash Flow Statement for Q1 2013 and will have them for everyone tomorrow. (I should also have similar statements for 2012) In my projections for 2013 using 2012 data, I confirmed that the absolute maximum that could be offered to staff was $250 per week. I tracked similar #'s through the first quarter of 2013, but as of mid March, likely due to the large donations, it looked like IF that was repeatable 3 more times this year, we could offer as much as $295 a week. There was zero possibility we could sustain $400 much less the $500 she wants. Since the end of the quarter however, and towards the end of it, donations have dropped off sharply and my current ballpark is back to $250. When I run the actual projection, it may come in even lower. I do not see that it is fair to Ms. Adams to continue to hold on to her at a contract amount that is below what she needs to get by. And I do not think it right to continuously put a strain on the party's cash flow in doing so. We simply cannot deliver on a promise for a higher amount right now. It appears we have attempted to run at a quick sprint rather than a slow and steady pace. Growth is good, but it should be measured and manageable. We also don't want to invite other incidental problems and complications that inevitably arise when an organization grows too quickly. We have started to experience a few already. Continuing at this pace, and having to accelerate it, will only cause more harm. However, even if finances magically improved, there are more serious and unfix-able issues as explained below: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ *#2 - Disagreement with and refusal to perform under the limitations of the contract* From the beginning, I have had an issue with Ms. Adams not adhering to the terms of the contract. My mistake in this regard, was continuing to offer contracts in the face of such difficulty. I was focused more on working out the disagreements as I would with an employee based on my prior management experience, and on keeping her working for the LPL than I was on what these red flags and warning signs were telling me. Ms. Adams made no secret that she wanted full-time level pay and we made no secret that we simply couldn't offer it. We were clear, that if the party grew and its finances grew with it, as a result of performing the duties under the contract, that we would look to add more duties and thus more pay. We cautioned that this would be a slow process, that it might take a year or more to reach the level of compensation she desired. She assured me, she was prepared to continue to work at this level for the long haul to build the party. Her tune changed in mid to late January, and by February 28th, had completely reversed. I understand fully that she needed more money to live and was depleting her savings. But I couldn't just invent money to pay her. It was either there or it wasn't---and it wasn't. Through the efforts of Mr. Ebarb and Mr. Benedict among others, we were able to get through the 4th quarter of 2012 at break even. We have barely been able to do so in the 1st quarter of 2013. At this point, she has refused to work for less than $400 a week and really wants at least $500 per week, a level as detailed above, we cannot sustain. She has upped the timetable of getting her to the full-time level of work she wants drastically, and we cannot compensate for that. She has upped this time table on her own accord, and without any agreement on my part. The position, as originally envisioned by Mr. Ebarb and myself was for part-time work geared around keeping contact with the membership, especially making initial contact with new voters and members, recruiting volunteers and candidates, and providing a support and coordinating role to parish and campus organizers. We estimated at our current level of activity that this job would take 10-15 hours per week, and we could pay $150-200 per week. ($10-$20 per hour, depending on exact pay and hours worked) At the time, we had zero contact with our membership. As an all volunteer force, it was difficult to methodically keep up with new members, as a result, most of our database has stale data as people have moved or changed their phone numbers. We wanted to correct this and change course, and we felt hiring a part-time person to do these small tasks for a couple of hours a day, or a few hours a week, would get the job done and allow us to get back on track. We felt that if we made our own efforts at tapping the LNC donor base in Louisiana, we could pay for the position, if the position itself didn't generate it's own funding support from new annual memberships and monthly pledges. (which we also adopted as a Board at the same time) At that time, we had a few parishes already tenuously organized officially, but they needed some work to keep them stable and growing. It was possible to continue on this path, but we thought that with a part time staffer, we could gain the extra boost we needed to help this process along in parishes we didn't live in. (only Caddo, Lafayette and East Baton Rouge had been organized, each of those parishes had a Board member living there and who worked to make it happen) We NEVER asked for or envisioned a single individual working 40-60 hours a week doing all of the organizing work for each parish. When we first took on Ms. Adams, we made it clear that her role was to support and coordinate the Parish Organizers and recruit new Organizers, but NOT to do their work for them. We could not pay for that level of work, and we DID NOT contract for it. If it took 3+ months to finally organize a parish under this framework, so be it. We did not want to rush things. We had very good reasons why we wanted each parish organized by someone from within that parish. During the first 4 months of her tenure with us, she mostly held to this restriction. It was in January that she decided on her own, outside of her contract, and against our explicit instruction otherwise, that she was going to take over organizer duties, demote the Organizers to merely "local contacts" and give herself full time duties. After several weeks of doing this, when we spoke of securing her signature on the 2013 contract, she indicated it was not enough money for what she was doing. Mind you, we didn't ask or give full time work, and we could not pay for it. We were offering 10-15 hours a week at $250 a week. SHE decided to arrange things so she was working 40-60 hours (her claim) and then insisting she be paid accordingly. Regardless of if we had the money or not, this was a serious disconnect that I admit, should have resulted in immediate termination of our continuing to operate in "good faith" with no contract. By the time we were negotiating a new contract in early March, she was continuing this behavior and this level of work, and simply would not reduce her workload no matter what. At this point, she was dictating the terms of the contract to us and telling us what she was going to do and then demanding to be paid for it. Yes, I should have called it off at that point, not doing so was my mistake. Because several caucuses were already in progress and scheduled, and because she HAD put in long hours for the party, I wanted to attempt as best as possible to compensate her for that. Therefore, I reluctantly agreed to the $400 per week settlement amount, and agreed to alter her contract to specifically include responsibility for establishing PEC's for the next 5 weeks. (since she was going to do it anyway, come hell or high water) I however, changed her duties into a priority structure, and this was put at #3, behind our original twin priorities of contacting the membership and encouraging volunteers and donations. I relegated recruitment and support of candidates to #4, only because it was already too late for candidates to qualify for the Spring election, and because the Fall elections would likely be special election filling only, and we could alter the next contract to reflect this timing. After securing the contract, I made it clear to her in a subsequent email that the responsibility to establish PEC's did NOT include her doing the work of the Parish Organizers. She was to fulfill that responsibility by providing a support and coordinating role, as originally envisioned. She was specifically NOT to create full time work for herself, particularly by insisting on being the sole individual to make all phone calls and all emails to the many hundreds of LPL members in the parishes in progress. She indicated she understood this. Unfortunately, she did not stop her practices of filling her calendar and assuming the duties of all of the organizers. She even continued to recruit people in new parishes as "local contacts" and not as "Parish Organizers." This inability to adhere to the limitations of our contract terms, regardless of how she was motivated to do so, means she is not fit for contract work with this party. She may work well as a regular employee, but that will entail a great deal of complication both legally and financially on our part, and we are no where near large or stable enough to be able to offer direct employment. Additionally, her inability to adhere to the tasks requested, and to abide by explicit supervisor instructions, indicate an improper fit, even for an employee. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ *#3 - Direct refusal to perform under contract* In early January, I communicated with Ms. Adams the urgency of recruiting candidates for the Spring 2013 elections. I provided her with links and information to assist candidates with filing their qualifying papers, the dates for qualifying and a list of offices available for election. She informed me, point blank, that the elections and recruitment of candidates was "not HER priority" (despite it being listed in her contract) and that HER priority was organizing Parish Executive Committees. She stated there simply was not enough time to recruit candidates with everything else she had to do. (things we weren't asking her to do, or paying her for) I instructed her that we could not sit out this election and we would be missing a prime opportunity to follow up on our November efforts and build on excitement and news mentions, that not running any candidates this election, would drop us from the news cycle and make our November slate appear as a 'one-off accident.' She flatly refused to do anything but organize parishes. My mistake, and my apologies to the Board, but I should have terminated the non-signed "good faith" arrangement at that time. Additionally, there was another incident, which unfortunately is not documented. I requested of her in late October to assist as best she could, our various Congressional candidates with their campaigns, providing them information they needed and making sure they were all on track and didn't need anything from us. She flat out refused, citing her volunteer work with the Gary Johnson campaign and her efforts to coordinate visits by Governor Johnson and Judge Gray to Louisiana in her capacity as Deputy Director of the Louisiana campaign. Due to the nature of this volunteer work, that is was to benefit our Presidential ticket, and that the visits made logistical sense for her to handle since they would be in her general area of the state, I acquiesced to the refusal. But it was ONLY due to that exact nature of the reason that I did so. The act itself of refusal of performance under contract was otherwise unacceptable. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ *#4 - Refusal to be held accountable* In September, as we were getting a feel for the position and what it actually required in terms of effort and hours worked, and in order to benchmark performance so we could better estimate and judge the value of the work for future contracts, I asked her to submit to me an activity report for the month. I requested something that showed us how many people she had managed to contact, what the quality of the contact data was, and what the response and outcome of those contacts was. I wanted to see how difficult or easy this job was, how long it was taking, how many people could reasonably contacted in 10-15 hours a week, and was it doing us any good? She flat out refused to provide any such reports at all to me, on the grounds that $200 a week was not enough compensation to document anything. Mind you, we had paid her a total of $800 for what we estimated to be 40-60 hours of work TOTAL for the month (ranging from $13-$20 per hour) and she was claiming she could not and did not have to document any actual work to us for that amount, that we just had to "trust her" that she was doing what we asked, and that if we wanted documentation we would have to pay her more for it. This was my initial mistake with her, as I should have declined contract renewal flat out on those grounds. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ *#5 - Refusal to document expenses* In the 2012 contract, we added a provision, against my better judgment, that would allow the ED to be reimbursed for expenses incurred on behalf of the party throughout the year. Mind you, in general a contractor is responsible for all costs associated with delivering the requested services or goods under a contract. Reimbursement of expenses might be seen by the IRS as instead constituting an employer/employee relationship. However, if these expenses were for performing functions NOT listed under the contract, then they should be reimbursed, just as we reimburse officers for party expenses they incur. Since the ED was to serve only in a supporting and coordinating role with respect to parish organization, if she traveled to the various caucuses to assist the organizers with the meetings, in place of party officers, particularly the Chairman and Vice-Chairman (who's duty it is to see to it that the parishes organize) and since the Vice-Chairman at that time had no reliable means of transportation to these events, and the Chair might not be able to make each and every one of them, we deemed it appropriate to reimburse her for travel to these events, since she was not required to do so under contract. Sometime in late January or early February, as I was securing the bonus and incentive approval from the Board, she requested that the expense stipend be generalized instead of limited to travel because there might be other related expenses that might arise, such as having to make phone calls to facilitate her attendance. I agreed, but stressed that in all cases, as her contract states, as our Bylaws state, and as State law requires, every expense must be something paid by her, documented with a receipt for at least the amount requested, and for something NOT under her contract duties, and only then would it be paid. Due to her inability to determine her fuel economy, (a mechanical problem with her vehicle) she refused to provide fuel receipts for reimbursement and instead wanted to submit online map mileage calculations and be paid by the mile. I reiterated the terms of the contract, dictated by the Bylaws and State law, and advised her this was insufficient documentation. We could only pay for actual expenses incurred and properly documented. In March, she requested reimbursement from the Acting Treasurer, Mr. Ebarb, for phone expenses amounting to $240. Mind you, we were going to pay for calls made, not under her contract, that we requested or that were needed for her attending the caucuses. We are not allowed and will not pay for basic plans, personal calls, data plans, fees, fines, etc. We can only pay for minutes used on behalf of the LPL and then only for calls made for things we have requested that are outside of the Contract terms. She claimed these calls we made in order to secure the participation of members to the caucuses---she was doing the work of the parish organizers, explicitly in defiance of our instructions to the contrary, and then wanting to not only be paid for the extra time (by wanting her base pay increased as noted above) but to be reimbursed for the phone expenses she incurred doing this. She submitted the total amounts of two phone bills, not the bills themselves, and thus no documentation. When pressed for documentation she declared the request "absurd." She finally submitted, under another request for record keeping info, and in connection with this documentation, the updated contact lists for the various parishes she was working on. She expected this to be sufficient. The problem with this approach, is that while it shows numbers that might have been called, it doesn't show the actual numbers called, or for how many minutes. She expected us to pay her full bill, including personal calls, basic plan fees, data plans if any, and associated or incidental fees. That simply was and is out of the question. As it was, we had not only not requested her to make this level of calls, we had explicitly instructed her NOT to, that this was the duty of the various Parish Organizers, and that we could not afford her time or the expenses. As of today, she has decided to put this "on the back burner." Though I have informed her in my letter to her concerning not offering her another contract, that if she submits the proper documentation, for LPL calls made through today at 2pm, we will pay for those minutes. She must submit the documentation for Jan 1- March 31st no later than Monday, and she can submit the early April documentation when the bill becomes available in late April or early May. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ *#6 - Questionable conduct which damages the good name of the LPL and its officers* At the time of our re-negotiations in early March, Ms. Adams made two solicitations to two individual party members for $100. She did so, stated in the solicitations, in an effort to show she can bring in money to help pay her contract. In an effort to gain sympathy for her position, she played very loose with the facts of the time, and in doing so, clearly intended to portray the LPL as intentionally not compensating her properly, in short - we were overworking her and underpaying her. She claimed at the end of February that she had worked for the LPL for seven months, full time, for only $200 per week. However, at that time, she had only been with us 6 months, had been under a contract that only offered part time work, and that as of early January had been increased to $250 a week. She had not worked for us as long as she claimed, was getting paid more than she claimed for part of that period, and was not asked by us to work more than 15 hours a week. If she was working longer hours, that was her own doing, and not at our request. She likewise, claimed to work for the Ron Paul campaign for "six months for free." She made no mention of the 8-10 weeks she worked for them and got paid nearly $6000 for doing so. The intention was clear. She played loose with the facts. In consultation with another Board member, I withheld offering those donors reimbursement for solicitation under "false pretenses" and they had not requested such. Additionally, at the same time, she informed me that people were offering to pay her directly and explicitly NOT donate to the LPL, because we were overworking and underpaying her. She acted like she was doing us a favor by refusing these offers and asking them to donate to the LPL anyway. The problem here is that unless she was complaining to our donors and members that she was being overworked and underpaid, unless she was bad mouthing the Board and the LPL, there is no reason for anyone to even make such an offer. This behavior, especially in light of the fact that the level of her work was in excess of what we were requesting, is entirely unacceptable. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ For reasons #2 - #6 I decided on March 8th, that unless finances magically improved to such an extent that we could afford $26k a year or more, and thus remove the likely causes of her otherwise questionable behavior, and her refusals to perform under contract, that I would not offer a new contract on April 13th. Since our financial position is effectively no different than it was on March 8th, if not even more precarious, and because therefore these other issues will not be mitigated or solved and are inexcusable regardless of the reasons for them, I can find no justification to offer Ms. Adams another contract. She is very good at what she was doing. But it was something we did not ask her to do, and cannot afford to pay her to do. And even if we were to take her on only in that role, her behavior under the present and previous contracts, tells me we should not do so. The tasks we envisioned originally for an Executive Director, including the coordination of Parish Organizers, can still be done by a part-time staffer, under a more tightly worded contract, for about $150-$200 per week. We should take the time to improve the terms and wording of the contract, take time to shore up our financial position, and find a better candidate for the job. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From chairman at lplouisiana.org Fri Apr 12 15:47:00 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 15:47:00 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Cancellation of Tomorrow's Board Meeting Message-ID: <516872C4.7030900@lplouisiana.org> To all Board Members, Due to the resignation of our Secretary, we will not be able to have a quorum for tomorrow's meeting. I will endeavor to find a replacement Secretary as soon as possible, but do not think it wise to rush such an appointment on short notice, especially considering the recent opposition to email voting necessary for confirmation. I also do not want to engage in office shuffling just to meet the quorum and then have to reshuffle again later. Therefore, I am cancelling this meeting. It may be rescheduled for a later date, depending on the timeliness of being able to find a Secretary for the Party to fulfill the remainder of the term until 2016. My apologies to all, as I looked forwardto meeting some of you in person for a full session for the first time. If you know of any guests who had intended to be there, please inform them immediately so they can adjust their plans. I will be removing the meeting announcement on the website, on the Meetup site, and posting an announcement of the cancellation. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chairman at lplouisiana.org Fri Apr 12 16:35:46 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 16:35:46 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Resignation Message-ID: <51687E32.7020202@lplouisiana.org> To all Board members, After much reflection and personal assessment, I feel I would be doing the LPL a great disservice in continuing to serve as Chairman. I have over the past several months, devoted full time or more to the party, at the expense of personal duties, and work. I am fortunate to have a flexible work schedule, but that is alsomy undoing as it allows me to devote more time than I can afford to the Party. This is my own fault and doing, but it must be remedied. I am in great financial straits at this time, and must take a break to recover. I am still the membership officer of Lafayette, and though I will take a break there as well, I will hopefully be able to work on the local level to build the LPdown the road. I have consulted with Mr. Lewis, the Vice-Chairman on this, tendering my resignation directly to him by phone, along with Mr. Lee Horne. We spoke at great length about a good number of issues facing the party at the present, as well as the direction of the party in the future. Because this was so sudden for him, and because he has other commitments with the state Legislature, and because of our recent turnover at Treasurer, Secretary, and Finance Officer, hehas asked me for a longer transition period than I was originally comfortable with. I consider myself effectively resigned immediately, but have agreed to a "leave of absence" to be officially ended on or before Sunday May 12th. Mr. Lewis will in the interim assume full duties as chairman in this absence to give him time to work out his legislative schedule, and to give the party time to find a suitable Secretary and now a suitable Vice-Chairman to replace him. I remain available for support and consultation for Mr. Lewis as he moves into his new role as Chairmanand to allow for an orderly transition. Despite this odd statusfor both of us, please do not contact me unless it is an absolute emergency. As it isright now, I must work about 60 hours next week (for pay) in order to meet deadlines for personal bills and debts that cannot be put off. It is not that I do not want to help or engage in discussion, but that I really cannot devote any time at all to the LPL for the near future. I will be working with Mr. Trotter and Mr. Ebarb to effectuate an orderly transition of the Treasurer duties and with Mr. Thompson to work out an orderly transition of website duties to his committee. I will do whatever minimum is necessary to assist Mr. Lewis, but I will defer all decisions to him, and for all intents and purposes - he is now the Chairman. Considering recent developments, this would be a good opportunity for all involved to take a break for a while, re-assess and regroup to begin working to take the party to the next level. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sccrep at jefferson.lplouisiana.org Fri Apr 12 17:10:46 2013 From: sccrep at jefferson.lplouisiana.org (Daniel Hayes) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 17:10:46 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Cancellation of Tomorrow's Board Meeting In-Reply-To: <516872C4.7030900@lplouisiana.org> References: <516872C4.7030900@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <4fd8a1fb08b7de803e8a0c25ab5ed0d0@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> Whether formally or informally, those remaining members of the SCC are welcome to still meet at Lakeview Harbor for fellowship and communication. On 2013-04-12 15:47, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > To all Board Members, > > Due to the resignation of our Secretary, we will not be able to have > a quorum for tomorrow's meeting. > > I will endeavor to find a replacement Secretary as soon as possible, > but do not think it wise to rush such an appointment on short notice, > especially considering the recent opposition to email voting > necessary > for confirmation. I also do not want to engage in office shuffling > just to meet the quorum and then have to reshuffle again later. > > Therefore, I am cancelling this meeting. > > It may be rescheduled for a later date, depending on the timeliness > of being able to find a Secretary for the Party to fulfill the > remainder of the term until 2016. > > My apologies to all, as I looked forward to meeting some of you in > person for a full session for the first time. > > If you know of any guests who had intended to be there, please > inform them immediately so they can adjust their plans. > > I will be removing the meeting announcement on the website, on the > Meetup site, and posting an announcement of the cancellation. > > -- > In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org From membership at lplouisiana.org Fri Apr 12 17:40:40 2013 From: membership at lplouisiana.org (Membership LPL) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 17:40:40 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Resignation In-Reply-To: <51687E32.7020202@lplouisiana.org> References: <51687E32.7020202@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <001c01ce37ce$c2c23060$48469120$@org> Sorry to see you leave. I wish you much success and hope to work with you again in the near future. --------------------------- Howard Kearney Membership From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of Adrien Monteleone Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 4:36 PM To: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Resignation To all Board members, After much reflection and personal assessment, I feel I would be doing the LPL a great disservice in continuing to serve as Chairman. I have over the past several months, devoted full time or more to the party, at the expense of personal duties, and work. I am fortunate to have a flexible work schedule, but that is also my undoing as it allows me to devote more time than I can afford to the Party. This is my own fault and doing, but it must be remedied. I am in great financial straits at this time, and must take a break to recover. I am still the membership officer of Lafayette, and though I will take a break there as well, I will hopefully be able to work on the local level to build the LP down the road. I have consulted with Mr. Lewis, the Vice-Chairman on this, tendering my resignation directly to him by phone, along with Mr. Lee Horne. We spoke at great length about a good number of issues facing the party at the present, as well as the direction of the party in the future. Because this was so sudden for him, and because he has other commitments with the state Legislature, and because of our recent turnover at Treasurer, Secretary, and Finance Officer, he has asked me for a longer transition period than I was originally comfortable with. I consider myself effectively resigned immediately, but have agreed to a "leave of absence" to be officially ended on or before Sunday May 12th. Mr. Lewis will in the interim assume full duties as chairman in this absence to give him time to work out his legislative schedule, and to give the party time to find a suitable Secretary and now a suitable Vice-Chairman to replace him. I remain available for support and consultation for Mr. Lewis as he moves into his new role as Chairman and to allow for an orderly transition. Despite this odd status for both of us, please do not contact me unless it is an absolute emergency. As it is right now, I must work about 60 hours next week (for pay) in order to meet deadlines for personal bills and debts that cannot be put off. It is not that I do not want to help or engage in discussion, but that I really cannot devote any time at all to the LPL for the near future. I will be working with Mr. Trotter and Mr. Ebarb to effectuate an orderly transition of the Treasurer duties and with Mr. Thompson to work out an orderly transition of website duties to his committee. I will do whatever minimum is necessary to assist Mr. Lewis, but I will defer all decisions to him, and for all intents and purposes - he is now the Chairman. Considering recent developments, this would be a good opportunity for all involved to take a break for a while, re-assess and regroup to begin working to take the party to the next level. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chairman at lplouisiana.org Fri Apr 12 18:15:40 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (Adrien Monteleone) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 18:15:40 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Resignation In-Reply-To: <001c01ce37ce$c2c23060$48469120$@org> References: <51687E32.7020202@lplouisiana.org> <001c01ce37ce$c2c23060$48469120$@org> Message-ID: <5168959C.6090100@lplouisiana.org> Howard, I will still be working with you and Keith to smoothly transition the website and to get CiviCRM fully operational. But I will be taking a break for a week or two. In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 4/12/13 5:40 PM, Membership LPL wrote: > > Sorry to see you leave. I wish you much success and hope to work with you > again in the near future. > > --------------------------- > > Howard Kearney > > Membership > > *From:*scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] *On > Behalf Of *Adrien Monteleone > *Sent:* Friday, April 12, 2013 4:36 PM > *To:* Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors > *Subject:* [LPL Board of Directors] Resignation > > To all Board members, > > After much reflection and personal assessment, I feel I would be doing the > LPL a great disservice in continuing to serve as Chairman. > > I have over the past several months, devoted full time or more to the party, > at the expense of personal duties, and work. I am fortunate to have a > flexible work schedule, but that is also my undoing as it allows me to > devote more time than I can afford to the Party. This is my own fault and > doing, but it must be remedied. I am in great financial straits at this > time, and must take a break to recover. > > I am still the membership officer of Lafayette, and though I will take a > break there as well, I will hopefully be able to work on the local level to > build the LP down the road. > > I have consulted with Mr. Lewis, the Vice-Chairman on this, tendering my > resignation directly to him by phone, along with Mr. Lee Horne. We spoke at > great length about a good number of issues facing the party at the present, > as well as the direction of the party in the future. > > Because this was so sudden for him, and because he has other commitments > with the state Legislature, and because of our recent turnover at Treasurer, > Secretary, and Finance Officer, he has asked me for a longer transition > period than I was originally comfortable with. > > I consider myself effectively resigned immediately, but have agreed to a > "leave of absence" to be officially ended on or before Sunday May 12th. > > Mr. Lewis will in the interim assume full duties as chairman in this absence > to give him time to work out his legislative schedule, and to give the party > time to find a suitable Secretary and now a suitable Vice-Chairman to > replace him. > > I remain available for support and consultation for Mr. Lewis as he moves > into his new role as Chairman and to allow for an orderly transition. > > Despite this odd status for both of us, please do not contact me unless it > is an absolute emergency. As it is right now, I must work about 60 hours > next week (for pay) in order to meet deadlines for personal bills and debts > that cannot be put off. It is not that I do not want to help or engage in > discussion, but that I really cannot devote any time at all to the LPL for > the near future. > > I will be working with Mr. Trotter and Mr. Ebarb to effectuate an orderly > transition of the Treasurer duties and with Mr. Thompson to work out an > orderly transition of website duties to his committee. > > I will do whatever minimum is necessary to assist Mr. Lewis, but I will > defer all decisions to him, and for all intents and purposes - he is now the > Chairman. > > Considering recent developments, this would be a good opportunity for all > involved to take a break for a while, re-assess and regroup to begin working > to take the party to the next level. > > -- > In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From membership at lplouisiana.org Fri Apr 12 19:02:05 2013 From: membership at lplouisiana.org (Membership LPL) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 19:02:05 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Resignation In-Reply-To: <5168959C.6090100@lplouisiana.org> References: <51687E32.7020202@lplouisiana.org> <001c01ce37ce$c2c23060$48469120$@org> <5168959C.6090100@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <002a01ce37da$22a8d050$67fa70f0$@org> I understand. I do wish you the best and thanks for the patience and help you've given me along the way! --------------------------- Howard Kearney Membership From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of Adrien Monteleone Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 6:16 PM To: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Resignation Howard, I will still be working with you and Keith to smoothly transition the website and to get CiviCRM fully operational. But I will be taking a break for a week or two. In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana On 4/12/13 5:40 PM, Membership LPL wrote: Sorry to see you leave. I wish you much success and hope to work with you again in the near future. --------------------------- Howard Kearney Membership From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of Adrien Monteleone Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 4:36 PM To: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Resignation To all Board members, After much reflection and personal assessment, I feel I would be doing the LPL a great disservice in continuing to serve as Chairman. I have over the past several months, devoted full time or more to the party, at the expense of personal duties, and work. I am fortunate to have a flexible work schedule, but that is also my undoing as it allows me to devote more time than I can afford to the Party. This is my own fault and doing, but it must be remedied. I am in great financial straits at this time, and must take a break to recover. I am still the membership officer of Lafayette, and though I will take a break there as well, I will hopefully be able to work on the local level to build the LP down the road. I have consulted with Mr. Lewis, the Vice-Chairman on this, tendering my resignation directly to him by phone, along with Mr. Lee Horne. We spoke at great length about a good number of issues facing the party at the present, as well as the direction of the party in the future. Because this was so sudden for him, and because he has other commitments with the state Legislature, and because of our recent turnover at Treasurer, Secretary, and Finance Officer, he has asked me for a longer transition period than I was originally comfortable with. I consider myself effectively resigned immediately, but have agreed to a "leave of absence" to be officially ended on or before Sunday May 12th. Mr. Lewis will in the interim assume full duties as chairman in this absence to give him time to work out his legislative schedule, and to give the party time to find a suitable Secretary and now a suitable Vice-Chairman to replace him. I remain available for support and consultation for Mr. Lewis as he moves into his new role as Chairman and to allow for an orderly transition. Despite this odd status for both of us, please do not contact me unless it is an absolute emergency. As it is right now, I must work about 60 hours next week (for pay) in order to meet deadlines for personal bills and debts that cannot be put off. It is not that I do not want to help or engage in discussion, but that I really cannot devote any time at all to the LPL for the near future. I will be working with Mr. Trotter and Mr. Ebarb to effectuate an orderly transition of the Treasurer duties and with Mr. Thompson to work out an orderly transition of website duties to his committee. I will do whatever minimum is necessary to assist Mr. Lewis, but I will defer all decisions to him, and for all intents and purposes - he is now the Chairman. Considering recent developments, this would be a good opportunity for all involved to take a break for a while, re-assess and regroup to begin working to take the party to the next level. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sccrep at jefferson.lplouisiana.org Fri Apr 12 19:21:26 2013 From: sccrep at jefferson.lplouisiana.org (Daniel Hayes) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 19:21:26 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Cancellation of Tomorrow's Board Meeting In-Reply-To: <516872C4.7030900@lplouisiana.org> References: <516872C4.7030900@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <65b1607bf35a4faec946f6c18e7c3bd2@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> I wish to inform all members of the SCC that we are still having the meeting. It has been confirmed with Lakeview Harbor that the room is still ours for noon. While we can not have quorum without the Secretary, we can meet and set an adjourned meeting. Even if there is a provision within the by laws that I have missed allowing for the Chairman to officially cancel a meeting as free individuals we can still get together to plan and fellowship together. There will be at least one professional parlimentarian in attendance to advise us going forward. C Allen Jennings author of "Robert's Rules for Dummies" MAY also be in attendance. The request to him is being sent out through the other parlimentarian, we have to see if he can be there. All SCC members are encouraged to be there so that we can work together to get through this difficult situation. Anyone with any questions is free to call me at 504-258-6176. Daniel Hayes, Jefferson Parish State Central Committee Representative On 2013-04-12 15:47, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > To all Board Members, > > Due to the resignation of our Secretary, we will not be able to have > a quorum for tomorrow's meeting. > > I will endeavor to find a replacement Secretary as soon as possible, > but do not think it wise to rush such an appointment on short notice, > especially considering the recent opposition to email voting > necessary > for confirmation. I also do not want to engage in office shuffling > just to meet the quorum and then have to reshuffle again later. > > Therefore, I am cancelling this meeting. > > It may be rescheduled for a later date, depending on the timeliness > of being able to find a Secretary for the Party to fulfill the > remainder of the term until 2016. > > My apologies to all, as I looked forward to meeting some of you in > person for a full session for the first time. > > If you know of any guests who had intended to be there, please > inform them immediately so they can adjust their plans. > > I will be removing the meeting announcement on the website, on the > Meetup site, and posting an announcement of the cancellation. > > -- > In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org From membership at lplouisiana.org Fri Apr 12 20:03:57 2013 From: membership at lplouisiana.org (Membership LPL) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 20:03:57 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Cancellation of Tomorrow's Board Meeting In-Reply-To: <65b1607bf35a4faec946f6c18e7c3bd2@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> References: <516872C4.7030900@lplouisiana.org> <65b1607bf35a4faec946f6c18e7c3bd2@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <003201ce37e2$c719b390$554d1ab0$@org> I plan to be there for the fellowship. I'll Be there just before 1pm. --------------------------- Howard Kearney Membership -----Original Message----- From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Hayes Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 7:21 PM To: scc at lplouisiana.org Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Cancellation of Tomorrow's Board Meeting I wish to inform all members of the SCC that we are still having the meeting. It has been confirmed with Lakeview Harbor that the room is still ours for noon. While we can not have quorum without the Secretary, we can meet and set an adjourned meeting. Even if there is a provision within the by laws that I have missed allowing for the Chairman to officially cancel a meeting as free individuals we can still get together to plan and fellowship together. There will be at least one professional parlimentarian in attendance to advise us going forward. C Allen Jennings author of "Robert's Rules for Dummies" MAY also be in attendance. The request to him is being sent out through the other parlimentarian, we have to see if he can be there. All SCC members are encouraged to be there so that we can work together to get through this difficult situation. Anyone with any questions is free to call me at 504-258-6176. Daniel Hayes, Jefferson Parish State Central Committee Representative On 2013-04-12 15:47, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > To all Board Members, > > Due to the resignation of our Secretary, we will not be able to have > a quorum for tomorrow's meeting. > > I will endeavor to find a replacement Secretary as soon as possible, > but do not think it wise to rush such an appointment on short notice, > especially considering the recent opposition to email voting > necessary > for confirmation. I also do not want to engage in office shuffling > just to meet the quorum and then have to reshuffle again later. > > Therefore, I am cancelling this meeting. > > It may be rescheduled for a later date, depending on the timeliness > of being able to find a Secretary for the Party to fulfill the > remainder of the term until 2016. > > My apologies to all, as I looked forward to meeting some of you in > person for a full session for the first time. > > If you know of any guests who had intended to be there, please > inform them immediately so they can adjust their plans. > > I will be removing the meeting announcement on the website, on the > Meetup site, and posting an announcement of the cancellation. > > -- > In Liberty, > > Adrien Monteleone - Chairman > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org From Paladin at LPLouisiana.org Sat Apr 13 00:34:32 2013 From: Paladin at LPLouisiana.org (T Lee Horne III) Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 01:34:32 -0400 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Cancellation of Tomorrow's Board Meeting In-Reply-To: <516872C4.7030900@lplouisiana.org> References: <516872C4.7030900@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <002101ce3808$9403bd90$bc0b38b0$@org> RONR (11th ed.), p.93, ll.25-35,p. 94, ll. 1-4"An adjourned meeting is a meeting in continuation of the session of the immediately preceding regular meeting or special meeting. The name adjourned meeting means that the meeting is scheduled for a particular time (and place, if it is not otherwise established) by the assembly's "adjourning to" or "adjourning until" that time and place. If a regular meeting or a special meeting is unable to complete its work, an adjourned meeting can be scheduled for later the same day or some other convenient time before the next regular meeting by the adoption (as applicable) of a main or privileged motion to fix the time to which to adjourn, or a main motion to adjourn until a specified time (see 21, 22). In such a case, the adjourned meeting is sometimes spoken of as the "adjournment of" the regular or special meeting. This usage should not be confused with the act of adjourning."It is clear from Robert's Rules here that an "adjourned meeting" is something that is established by act of the Board while still in a session that has or is presumed to have a quorum when it can't get to everything on its agenda, in effect, it is a way to continue a meeting, with the presumption of a quorum existing, to another time and or place. It does NOT mean a meeting can be held without a quorum. It is not another name for an attempt to hold a meeting without a quorum. No official action can take place without a quorum no matter what you call the meeting. The last meeting in Shreveport did NOT "adjourn until April 13th in the city of New Orleans" and therefore did not create an adjourned meeting. An adjourned meeting, as stated, can only be created by a motion, in a session with a quorum to continue the meeting it is made in at another time and or place. The meeting in Shreveport adjourned - ended, without qualification. Any attempt to conduct ANY business without the Secretary and either the Chair or Vice-Chair preset tomorrow will constitute an illegal meeting, and any action taken will have no weight or bearing upon the party. If any attempt is made to hold such a meeting and act without a quorum all such motions or votes or decisions taken therein are without effect and void. We will reschedule this meeting, but do not attempt to hold one illegally. Of course, anyone is free to gather informally, and without attempting to take any official action. Any meeting held tomorrow without an official quorum is not and cannot be an "adjourned meeting." T Lee Horne, III Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 tleehorneiii at gmail.com 318-542-4445 google voice tleehorneiii skype http://bit.ly/12zAQMS From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of Adrien Monteleone Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 4:47 PM To: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Cancellation of Tomorrow's Board Meeting To all Board Members, Due to the resignation of our Secretary, we will not be able to have a quorum for tomorrow's meeting. I will endeavor to find a replacement Secretary as soon as possible, but do not think it wise to rush such an appointment on short notice, especially considering the recent opposition to email voting necessary for confirmation. I also do not want to engage in office shuffling just to meet the quorum and then have to reshuffle again later. Therefore, I am cancelling this meeting. It may be rescheduled for a later date, depending on the timeliness of being able to find a Secretary for the Party to fulfill the remainder of the term until 2016. My apologies to all, as I looked forward to meeting some of you in person for a full session for the first time. If you know of any guests who had intended to be there, please inform them immediately so they can adjust their plans. I will be removing the meeting announcement on the website, on the Meetup site, and posting an announcement of the cancellation. -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of Louisiana This message has been processed by Firetrust Benign. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sccrep at jefferson.lplouisiana.org Sat Apr 13 01:46:29 2013 From: sccrep at jefferson.lplouisiana.org (Daniel Hayes) Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 01:46:29 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Cancellation of Tomorrow's Board Meeting In-Reply-To: <002101ce3808$9403bd90$bc0b38b0$@org> References: <516872C4.7030900@lplouisiana.org> <002101ce3808$9403bd90$bc0b38b0$@org> Message-ID: We will meet...you can choose to be there..or stay home. No matter what...the Chair does not have authority to cancel the regularly scheduled and called meeting. THIS is not an adjourned meeting. It is a regularly called meeting. from the 11th edition of Robert's Rules of order..RONR 11th ed Section 40, page 347, "..... even in the absence of a quorum, the assembly may fix the time to which to adjorn, adjourn, or take measures to obtain a quorum....." The motion to fix the time to which to adjourn is the legal act by which an assembly sets an adjourned meeting...quorum or no quorum. Utterly proper and legal in cases where no quorum is present. THIS is the legal meeting tomorrow. In a phone conference together..Richard Brown the parlimentarian that will be present tomorrow, along with C.Allen Jennings author of Roberts Rules for Dummies agreed that what I have stated above IS the proper course of action. also see Robert's Rules for Dummies, Page 52. 1st edition "Dealing with an absence of a quorum" Daniel Hayes Jefferson Parish Representative to the LSCC. On 2013-04-13 00:34, T Lee Horne III wrote: > RONR (11th ed.), p.93, ll.25-35,p. 94, ll. 1-4"An adjourned meeting > is a meeting in continuation of the session of the immediately > preceding regular meeting or special meeting. > > The name adjourned meeting means that the meeting is scheduled for a > particular time (and place, if it is not otherwise established) by > the > assembly's "adjourning to" or "adjourning until" that time and place. > If a regular meeting or a special meeting is unable to complete its > work, an adjourned meeting can be scheduled for later the same day or > some other convenient time before the next regular meeting by the > adoption (as applicable) of a main or privileged motion to fix the > time to which to adjourn, or a main motion to adjourn until a > specified time (see 21, 22). In such a case, the adjourned meeting is > sometimes spoken of as the "adjournment of" the regular or special > meeting. This usage should not be confused with the act of > adjourning."It is clear from Robert's Rules here that an "adjourned > meeting" is something that is established by act of the Board while > still in a session that has or is presumed to have a quorum when it > can't get to everything on its agenda, in effect, it is a way to > continue a meeting, with the presumption of a quorum existing, to > another time and or place. It does NOT mean a meeting can be held > without a quorum. It is not another name for an attempt to hold a > meeting without a quorum. No official action can take place without a > quorum no matter what you call the meeting. > > The last meeting in Shreveport did NOT "adjourn until April 13th in > the city of New Orleans" and therefore did not create an adjourned > meeting. An adjourned meeting, as stated, can only be created by a > motion, in a session with a quorum to continue the meeting it is made > in at another time and or place. The meeting in Shreveport adjourned > - > ended, without qualification. > > Any attempt to conduct ANY business without the Secretary and either > the Chair or Vice-Chair preset tomorrow will constitute an illegal > meeting, and any action taken will have no weight or bearing upon the > party. If any attempt is made to hold such a meeting and act without > a > quorum all such motions or votes or decisions taken therein are > without effect and void. We will reschedule this meeting, but do not > attempt to hold one illegally. Of course, anyone is free to gather > informally, and without attempting to take any official action. Any > meeting held tomorrow without an official quorum is not and cannot be > an "adjourned meeting." > > Any attempt to conduct ANY business without the Secretary and either > the Chair or Vice-Chair preset tomorrow will constitute an illegal > meeting, and any action taken will have no weight or bearing upon the > party. If any attempt is made to hold such a meeting and act without > a > quorum all such motions or votes or decisions taken therein are > without effect and void. We will reschedule this meeting, but do not > attempt to hold one illegally. Of course, anyone is free to gather > informally, and without attempting to take any official action. Any > meeting held tomorrow without an official quorum is not and cannot be > an "adjourned meeting." > > T LEE HORNE, III > > Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA > > President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 > > Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 > > Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign > 2003-2007 > > tleehorneiii at gmail.com > > 318-542-4445 google voice > > tleehorneiii skype > > HTTP://BIT.LY/12ZAQMS [1] > > FROM: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org > [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] ON BEHALF OF Adrien Monteleone > SENT: Friday, April 12, 2013 4:47 PM > TO: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors > SUBJECT: [LPL Board of Directors] Cancellation of Tomorrow's Board > Meeting > > To all Board Members, > > Due to the resignation of our Secretary, we will not be able to have > a quorum for tomorrow's meeting. > > I will endeavor to find a replacement Secretary as soon as possible, > but do not think it wise to rush such an appointment on short notice, > especially considering the recent opposition to email voting > necessary > for confirmation. I also do not want to engage in office shuffling > just to meet the quorum and then have to reshuffle again later. > > Therefore, I am cancelling this meeting. > > It may be rescheduled for a later date, depending on the timeliness > of being able to find a Secretary for the Party to fulfill the > remainder of the term until 2016. > > My apologies to all, as I looked forward to meeting some of you in > person for a full session for the first time. > > If you know of any guests who had intended to be there, please inform > them immediately so they can adjust their plans. > > I will be removing the meeting announcement on the website, on the > Meetup site, and posting an announcement of the cancellation. > > -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of > Louisiana > > This message has been processed by Firetrust Benign [2]. > > Links: > ------ > [1] http://bit.ly/12zAQMS > [2] http://www.firetrust.com/products/benign/ > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org From Paladin at LPLouisiana.org Sat Apr 13 01:53:36 2013 From: Paladin at LPLouisiana.org (T Lee Horne III) Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 02:53:36 -0400 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Cancellation of Tomorrow's Board In-Reply-To: References: <516872C4.7030900@lplouisiana.org> <002101ce3808$9403bd90$bc0b38b0$@org> Message-ID: <005801ce3813$a059d920$e10d8b60$@org> Anyone can meet at any time and the party by-laws are specific, regardless of the number of people attending if there is no Secretary there is no Quorum. Any attempt to conduct ANY business without the Secretary and either the Chair or Vice-Chair preset tomorrow will constitute an illegal meeting, and any action taken will have no weight or bearing upon the party. If any attempt is made to hold such a meeting and act without a quorum all such motions or votes or decisions taken therein are without effect and void. We will reschedule this meeting, but do not attempt to hold one illegally. Of course, anyone is free to gather informally, and without attempting to take any official action. Any meeting held tomorrow without an official quorum is not and cannot be an "adjourned meeting." T Lee Horne, III -----Original Message----- From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Hayes Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 2:46 AM To: scc at lplouisiana.org Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Cancellation of Tomorrow's Board Meeting We will meet...you can choose to be there..or stay home. No matter what...the Chair does not have authority to cancel the regularly scheduled and called meeting. THIS is not an adjourned meeting. It is a regularly called meeting. from the 11th edition of Robert's Rules of order..RONR 11th ed Section 40, page 347, "..... even in the absence of a quorum, the assembly may fix the time to which to adjorn, adjourn, or take measures to obtain a quorum....." The motion to fix the time to which to adjourn is the legal act by which an assembly sets an adjourned meeting...quorum or no quorum. Utterly proper and legal in cases where no quorum is present. THIS is the legal meeting tomorrow. In a phone conference together..Richard Brown the parlimentarian that will be present tomorrow, along with C.Allen Jennings author of Roberts Rules for Dummies agreed that what I have stated above IS the proper course of action. also see Robert's Rules for Dummies, Page 52. 1st edition "Dealing with an absence of a quorum" Daniel Hayes Jefferson Parish Representative to the LSCC. On 2013-04-13 00:34, T Lee Horne III wrote: > RONR (11th ed.), p.93, ll.25-35,p. 94, ll. 1-4"An adjourned meeting is > a meeting in continuation of the session of the immediately preceding > regular meeting or special meeting. > > The name adjourned meeting means that the meeting is scheduled for a > particular time (and place, if it is not otherwise established) by the > assembly's "adjourning to" or "adjourning until" that time and place. > If a regular meeting or a special meeting is unable to complete its > work, an adjourned meeting can be scheduled for later the same day or > some other convenient time before the next regular meeting by the > adoption (as applicable) of a main or privileged motion to fix the > time to which to adjourn, or a main motion to adjourn until a > specified time (see 21, 22). In such a case, the adjourned meeting is > sometimes spoken of as the "adjournment of" the regular or special > meeting. This usage should not be confused with the act of > adjourning."It is clear from Robert's Rules here that an "adjourned > meeting" is something that is established by act of the Board while > still in a session that has or is presumed to have a quorum when it > can't get to everything on its agenda, in effect, it is a way to > continue a meeting, with the presumption of a quorum existing, to > another time and or place. It does NOT mean a meeting can be held > without a quorum. It is not another name for an attempt to hold a > meeting without a quorum. No official action can take place without a > quorum no matter what you call the meeting. > > The last meeting in Shreveport did NOT "adjourn until April 13th in > the city of New Orleans" and therefore did not create an adjourned > meeting. An adjourned meeting, as stated, can only be created by a > motion, in a session with a quorum to continue the meeting it is made > in at another time and or place. The meeting in Shreveport adjourned > - > ended, without qualification. > > Any attempt to conduct ANY business without the Secretary and either > the Chair or Vice-Chair preset tomorrow will constitute an illegal > meeting, and any action taken will have no weight or bearing upon the > party. If any attempt is made to hold such a meeting and act without a > quorum all such motions or votes or decisions taken therein are > without effect and void. We will reschedule this meeting, but do not > attempt to hold one illegally. Of course, anyone is free to gather > informally, and without attempting to take any official action. Any > meeting held tomorrow without an official quorum is not and cannot be > an "adjourned meeting." > > Any attempt to conduct ANY business without the Secretary and either > the Chair or Vice-Chair preset tomorrow will constitute an illegal > meeting, and any action taken will have no weight or bearing upon the > party. If any attempt is made to hold such a meeting and act without a > quorum all such motions or votes or decisions taken therein are > without effect and void. We will reschedule this meeting, but do not > attempt to hold one illegally. Of course, anyone is free to gather > informally, and without attempting to take any official action. Any > meeting held tomorrow without an official quorum is not and cannot be > an "adjourned meeting." > > T LEE HORNE, III > > Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA > > President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 > > Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 > > Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign > 2003-2007 > > tleehorneiii at gmail.com > > 318-542-4445 google voice > > tleehorneiii skype > > HTTP://BIT.LY/12ZAQMS [1] > > FROM: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org > [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] ON BEHALF OF Adrien Monteleone > SENT: Friday, April 12, 2013 4:47 PM > TO: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors > SUBJECT: [LPL Board of Directors] Cancellation of Tomorrow's Board > Meeting > > To all Board Members, > > Due to the resignation of our Secretary, we will not be able to have a > quorum for tomorrow's meeting. > > I will endeavor to find a replacement Secretary as soon as possible, > but do not think it wise to rush such an appointment on short notice, > especially considering the recent opposition to email voting necessary > for confirmation. I also do not want to engage in office shuffling > just to meet the quorum and then have to reshuffle again later. > > Therefore, I am cancelling this meeting. > > It may be rescheduled for a later date, depending on the timeliness of > being able to find a Secretary for the Party to fulfill the remainder > of the term until 2016. > > My apologies to all, as I looked forward to meeting some of you in > person for a full session for the first time. > > If you know of any guests who had intended to be there, please inform > them immediately so they can adjust their plans. > > I will be removing the meeting announcement on the website, on the > Meetup site, and posting an announcement of the cancellation. > > -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of > Louisiana > > This message has been processed by Firetrust Benign [2]. > > Links: > ------ > [1] http://bit.ly/12zAQMS > [2] http://www.firetrust.com/products/benign/ > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org ---------------------------------------------------- This message has been processed by Firetrust Benign. From sccrep at jefferson.lplouisiana.org Sat Apr 13 02:34:29 2013 From: sccrep at jefferson.lplouisiana.org (Daniel Hayes) Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 02:34:29 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Cancellation of Tomorrow's Board In-Reply-To: <005801ce3813$a059d920$e10d8b60$@org> References: " <516872C4.7030900@lplouisiana.org>" <002101ce3808$9403bd90$bc0b38b0$@org> <005801ce3813$a059d920$e10d8b60$@org> Message-ID: <9ff73a4c4ce368c6eeb763c869ee0720@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> T Lee.. I refer people to section 40 I listed in my prior Email..The meeting tomorrow IS the LEGALLY set regular meeting. You can think what you want..everyone should attend. WHILE we may not be able to conduct business other than what I stated. As the meeting has been called..we MUST hold the meeting. You can argue what you want..but I have the phone to my ear with a professional parlimentarian at 2:30 AM and I am reading him back everything I am typing and he has confirmed all of it. See you tomorrow. Daniel Hayes Jefferson Parish Representative to the LSCC On 2013-04-13 01:53, T Lee Horne III wrote: > Anyone can meet at any time and the party by-laws are specific, > regardless > of the number of people attending if there is no Secretary there is > no > Quorum. > > Any attempt to conduct ANY business without the Secretary and either > the Chair or Vice-Chair preset tomorrow will constitute an illegal > meeting, and any action taken will have no weight or bearing upon the > party. If any attempt is made to hold such a meeting and act without > a > quorum all such motions or votes or decisions taken therein are > without effect and void. We will reschedule this meeting, but do not > attempt to hold one illegally. Of course, anyone is free to gather > informally, and without attempting to take any official action. Any > meeting held tomorrow without an official quorum is not and cannot be > an "adjourned meeting." > > > T Lee Horne, III > > -----Original Message----- > From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org > [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On > Behalf Of Daniel Hayes > Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 2:46 AM > To: scc at lplouisiana.org > Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Cancellation of Tomorrow's > Board > Meeting > > We will meet...you can choose to be there..or stay home. No matter > what...the Chair does not have authority to cancel the regularly > scheduled > and called meeting. THIS is not an adjourned meeting. It is a > regularly > called meeting. > > from the 11th edition of Robert's Rules of order..RONR 11th ed > Section 40, > page 347, "..... even in the absence of a quorum, the assembly may > fix the > time to which to adjorn, adjourn, or take measures to obtain a > quorum....." > The motion to fix the time to which to adjourn is the legal act by > which an > assembly sets an adjourned meeting...quorum or no quorum. > Utterly proper and legal in cases where no quorum is present. THIS is > the > legal meeting tomorrow. > > In a phone conference together..Richard Brown the parlimentarian that > will > be present tomorrow, along with C.Allen Jennings author of Roberts > Rules for > Dummies agreed that what I have stated above IS the proper course of > action. > also see Robert's Rules for Dummies, Page 52. 1st edition "Dealing > with an > absence of a quorum" > > > Daniel Hayes > Jefferson Parish Representative to the LSCC. > > On 2013-04-13 00:34, T Lee Horne III wrote: >> RONR (11th ed.), p.93, ll.25-35,p. 94, ll. 1-4"An adjourned meeting >> is >> a meeting in continuation of the session of the immediately >> preceding >> regular meeting or special meeting. >> >> The name adjourned meeting means that the meeting is scheduled for a >> particular time (and place, if it is not otherwise established) by >> the >> assembly's "adjourning to" or "adjourning until" that time and >> place. >> If a regular meeting or a special meeting is unable to complete its >> work, an adjourned meeting can be scheduled for later the same day >> or >> some other convenient time before the next regular meeting by the >> adoption (as applicable) of a main or privileged motion to fix the >> time to which to adjourn, or a main motion to adjourn until a >> specified time (see 21, 22). In such a case, the adjourned meeting >> is >> sometimes spoken of as the "adjournment of" the regular or special >> meeting. This usage should not be confused with the act of >> adjourning."It is clear from Robert's Rules here that an "adjourned >> meeting" is something that is established by act of the Board while >> still in a session that has or is presumed to have a quorum when it >> can't get to everything on its agenda, in effect, it is a way to >> continue a meeting, with the presumption of a quorum existing, to >> another time and or place. It does NOT mean a meeting can be held >> without a quorum. It is not another name for an attempt to hold a >> meeting without a quorum. No official action can take place without >> a >> quorum no matter what you call the meeting. >> >> The last meeting in Shreveport did NOT "adjourn until April 13th in >> the city of New Orleans" and therefore did not create an adjourned >> meeting. An adjourned meeting, as stated, can only be created by a >> motion, in a session with a quorum to continue the meeting it is >> made >> in at another time and or place. The meeting in Shreveport adjourned >> - >> ended, without qualification. >> >> Any attempt to conduct ANY business without the Secretary and either >> the Chair or Vice-Chair preset tomorrow will constitute an illegal >> meeting, and any action taken will have no weight or bearing upon >> the >> party. If any attempt is made to hold such a meeting and act without >> a >> quorum all such motions or votes or decisions taken therein are >> without effect and void. We will reschedule this meeting, but do not >> attempt to hold one illegally. Of course, anyone is free to gather >> informally, and without attempting to take any official action. Any >> meeting held tomorrow without an official quorum is not and cannot >> be >> an "adjourned meeting." >> >> Any attempt to conduct ANY business without the Secretary and either >> the Chair or Vice-Chair preset tomorrow will constitute an illegal >> meeting, and any action taken will have no weight or bearing upon >> the >> party. If any attempt is made to hold such a meeting and act without >> a >> quorum all such motions or votes or decisions taken therein are >> without effect and void. We will reschedule this meeting, but do not >> attempt to hold one illegally. Of course, anyone is free to gather >> informally, and without attempting to take any official action. Any >> meeting held tomorrow without an official quorum is not and cannot >> be >> an "adjourned meeting." >> >> T LEE HORNE, III >> >> Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA >> >> President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 >> >> Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 >> >> Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign >> 2003-2007 >> >> tleehorneiii at gmail.com >> >> 318-542-4445 google voice >> >> tleehorneiii skype >> >> HTTP://BIT.LY/12ZAQMS [1] >> >> FROM: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org >> [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] ON BEHALF OF Adrien Monteleone >> SENT: Friday, April 12, 2013 4:47 PM >> TO: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors >> SUBJECT: [LPL Board of Directors] Cancellation of Tomorrow's Board >> Meeting >> >> To all Board Members, >> >> Due to the resignation of our Secretary, we will not be able to have >> a >> quorum for tomorrow's meeting. >> >> I will endeavor to find a replacement Secretary as soon as possible, >> but do not think it wise to rush such an appointment on short >> notice, >> especially considering the recent opposition to email voting >> necessary >> for confirmation. I also do not want to engage in office shuffling >> just to meet the quorum and then have to reshuffle again later. >> >> Therefore, I am cancelling this meeting. >> >> It may be rescheduled for a later date, depending on the timeliness >> of >> being able to find a Secretary for the Party to fulfill the >> remainder >> of the term until 2016. >> >> My apologies to all, as I looked forward to meeting some of you in >> person for a full session for the first time. >> >> If you know of any guests who had intended to be there, please >> inform >> them immediately so they can adjust their plans. >> >> I will be removing the meeting announcement on the website, on the >> Meetup site, and posting an announcement of the cancellation. >> >> -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of >> Louisiana >> >> This message has been processed by Firetrust Benign [2]. >> >> Links: >> ------ >> [1] http://bit.ly/12zAQMS >> [2] http://www.firetrust.com/products/benign/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > ---------------------------------------------------- > This message has been processed by Firetrust Benign. > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org From tlhorne at yahoo.com Sat Apr 13 06:27:19 2013 From: tlhorne at yahoo.com (T Lee Horne III) Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 07:27:19 -0400 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Cancellation of Tomorrow's Board In-Reply-To: <9ff73a4c4ce368c6eeb763c869ee0720@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> References: " <516872C4.7030900@lplouisiana.org>" <002101ce3808$9403bd90$bc0b38b0$@org> <005801ce3813$a059d920$e10d8b60$@org> <9ff73a4c4ce368c6eeb763c869ee0720@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <000c01ce3839$dd2da310$9788e930$@com> RONR (11th ed.), p. 347, ll. 21-35, p. 348, ll. 1-23 "PROCEEDINGS IN THE ABSENCE OF A QUORUM. In the absence of a quorum, any business transacted (except for the procedural actions noted in the next paragraph) is null and void. But if a quorum fails to appear at a regularly or properly called meeting, the inability to transact business does not detract from the fact that the society's rules requiring the meeting to be held were complied with and the meeting was convened-even though it had to adjourn immediately. Even in the absence of a quorum, the assembly may fix the time to which to adjourn (22), adjourn (21), recess (20), or take measures to obtain a quorum..." ________________________________________ At best, members can meet without a quorum, at the time and place designated for a regular meeting, and they have four choices - none of which will magically produce a quorum, or create a legal meeting in the absence of one. The choices are: #1 - take measures to obtain a quorum - members could attempt to contact the absent members and request their attendance, but that is impossible since there is no duly elected or appointed Secretary. #2 - recess - take a break, hoping to allow time for a quorum to form, but in the immediate case, that is impossible since there is no duly elected or appointed Secretary. #3 - adjourn - that is, leave without doing anything. This happened last July when the quorum requirement was not met. The chair called the meeting to order, recognized the absence of a quorum and promptly adjourned the meeting. We met informally afterwards, but no official actions were taken. #4 - fix the time to which to adjourn - this is where the members can set a new date, time, and/or place to "move" or "reschedule" the meeting to. This rescheduled meeting does not constitute an entirely new meeting, but is a continuation of the previous one. (in this case, the one that did nothing but reschedule) In this immediate case, this attempt is useless. All it can do, is establish another time, date and place for people to waste time gathering and not know if there is going to be a quorum. If you "adjourn to the same place and time, two weeks from April 13th" for example, all you are going to do is create another session of that meeting of April 13th. You still need a quorum on that new date to actually hold a meeting and transact business. There is NOTHING else you can do and there is no way around it. No quorum - no business, adjourned meeting or not. In short, an adjourned meeting with no quorum, is right back where you started with only the same four choices. This is useless and makes no sense. The party is in a precarious and fragile state. Two executive officers are missing, and one supporting officer. The chair has asked for time to properly consider qualified candidates to appoint as replacements per the Bylaws. Until a Secretary can be appointed, and confirmed by the Board (via postal mail ballot since a quorum is not possible otherwise) there can be no legal meeting, adjourned or not. It serves no purpose to "fix the time to which to adjourn" if you have no idea when that appointment will be made and approved. Prudence would dictate here that the Board give the Chair due time to find a suitable Secretary so it can get on with its business. If you want to ensure a regular 2nd Quarter meeting is held, and you really want to create an "adjourned meeting" then the most sensible thing to do, is word the motion to create such a meeting as "adjourn to a time and place specified by the Chairman." This will allow the Bylaws to be fulfilled for the purpose of having the 2nd quarter meeting at the time and place as set by resolution, and to give the Chair the discretion and time he needs to fill the vacant office without haste or rash judgment forced upon him by impertinent and impatient members. There is no emergency here. There is not even a need to create an adjourned meeting. The chair has indicated the meeting in question will be rescheduled. (which is all the motion to "fix the time to which to adjourn" will do in the absence of a quorum) And he will naturally reschedule this meeting ONCE he has appointed a new Secretary and the Board has approved the appointment. It is utterly useless to schedule a meeting by any means, via adjourned meeting, or call of the chair, or otherwise if it is not known if a quorum is even possible, and especially in the absence of a Secretary, it is thus known to be IMPOSSIBLE. In short, chill out. Offer suggestions to the Chair for Secretary. Volunteer for the position yourself. This is not life or death, the party goes on, and it will get through this in a reasonable time frame. It is not the first time something similar has happened and not likely the last. Waste time tomorrow if you want to rescheduling without any information to base that new session on, but there clearly is no point to doing so. ________________________________________ Finally, "Robert's Rules of Order for Dummies" has no bearing on, and is NOT, the parliamentary authority for the LPL. ONLY "Robert's Rules of Order Newly Revised 11th Edition" is the authority that can be cited or referred to. T Lee Horne, III Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 -----Original Message----- From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Hayes Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 3:34 AM To: scc at lplouisiana.org Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Cancellation of Tomorrow's Board T Lee.. I refer people to section 40 I listed in my prior Email..The meeting tomorrow IS the LEGALLY set regular meeting. You can think what you want..everyone should attend. WHILE we may not be able to conduct business other than what I stated. As the meeting has been called..we MUST hold the meeting. You can argue what you want..but I have the phone to my ear with a professional parlimentarian at 2:30 AM and I am reading him back everything I am typing and he has confirmed all of it. See you tomorrow. Daniel Hayes Jefferson Parish Representative to the LSCC On 2013-04-13 01:53, T Lee Horne III wrote: > Anyone can meet at any time and the party by-laws are specific, > regardless of the number of people attending if there is no Secretary > there is no Quorum. > > Any attempt to conduct ANY business without the Secretary and either > the Chair or Vice-Chair preset tomorrow will constitute an illegal > meeting, and any action taken will have no weight or bearing upon the > party. If any attempt is made to hold such a meeting and act without a > quorum all such motions or votes or decisions taken therein are > without effect and void. We will reschedule this meeting, but do not > attempt to hold one illegally. Of course, anyone is free to gather > informally, and without attempting to take any official action. Any > meeting held tomorrow without an official quorum is not and cannot be > an "adjourned meeting." > > > T Lee Horne, III > > -----Original Message----- > From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org > [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Hayes > Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 2:46 AM > To: scc at lplouisiana.org > Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Cancellation of Tomorrow's Board > Meeting > > We will meet...you can choose to be there..or stay home. No matter > what...the Chair does not have authority to cancel the regularly > scheduled and called meeting. THIS is not an adjourned meeting. It is > a regularly called meeting. > > from the 11th edition of Robert's Rules of order..RONR 11th ed Section > 40, page 347, "..... even in the absence of a quorum, the assembly may > fix the time to which to adjorn, adjourn, or take measures to obtain a > quorum....." > The motion to fix the time to which to adjourn is the legal act by > which an assembly sets an adjourned meeting...quorum or no quorum. > Utterly proper and legal in cases where no quorum is present. THIS is > the legal meeting tomorrow. > > In a phone conference together..Richard Brown the parlimentarian that > will be present tomorrow, along with C.Allen Jennings author of > Roberts Rules for Dummies agreed that what I have stated above IS the > proper course of action. > also see Robert's Rules for Dummies, Page 52. 1st edition "Dealing > with an absence of a quorum" > > > Daniel Hayes > Jefferson Parish Representative to the LSCC. > > On 2013-04-13 00:34, T Lee Horne III wrote: >> RONR (11th ed.), p.93, ll.25-35,p. 94, ll. 1-4"An adjourned meeting >> is a meeting in continuation of the session of the immediately >> preceding regular meeting or special meeting. >> >> The name adjourned meeting means that the meeting is scheduled for a >> particular time (and place, if it is not otherwise established) by >> the assembly's "adjourning to" or "adjourning until" that time and >> place. >> If a regular meeting or a special meeting is unable to complete its >> work, an adjourned meeting can be scheduled for later the same day or >> some other convenient time before the next regular meeting by the >> adoption (as applicable) of a main or privileged motion to fix the >> time to which to adjourn, or a main motion to adjourn until a >> specified time (see 21, 22). In such a case, the adjourned meeting is >> sometimes spoken of as the "adjournment of" the regular or special >> meeting. This usage should not be confused with the act of >> adjourning."It is clear from Robert's Rules here that an "adjourned >> meeting" is something that is established by act of the Board while >> still in a session that has or is presumed to have a quorum when it >> can't get to everything on its agenda, in effect, it is a way to >> continue a meeting, with the presumption of a quorum existing, to >> another time and or place. It does NOT mean a meeting can be held >> without a quorum. It is not another name for an attempt to hold a >> meeting without a quorum. No official action can take place without a >> quorum no matter what you call the meeting. >> >> The last meeting in Shreveport did NOT "adjourn until April 13th in >> the city of New Orleans" and therefore did not create an adjourned >> meeting. An adjourned meeting, as stated, can only be created by a >> motion, in a session with a quorum to continue the meeting it is made >> in at another time and or place. The meeting in Shreveport adjourned >> - >> ended, without qualification. >> >> Any attempt to conduct ANY business without the Secretary and either >> the Chair or Vice-Chair preset tomorrow will constitute an illegal >> meeting, and any action taken will have no weight or bearing upon the >> party. If any attempt is made to hold such a meeting and act without >> a quorum all such motions or votes or decisions taken therein are >> without effect and void. We will reschedule this meeting, but do not >> attempt to hold one illegally. Of course, anyone is free to gather >> informally, and without attempting to take any official action. Any >> meeting held tomorrow without an official quorum is not and cannot be >> an "adjourned meeting." >> >> Any attempt to conduct ANY business without the Secretary and either >> the Chair or Vice-Chair preset tomorrow will constitute an illegal >> meeting, and any action taken will have no weight or bearing upon the >> party. If any attempt is made to hold such a meeting and act without >> a quorum all such motions or votes or decisions taken therein are >> without effect and void. We will reschedule this meeting, but do not >> attempt to hold one illegally. Of course, anyone is free to gather >> informally, and without attempting to take any official action. Any >> meeting held tomorrow without an official quorum is not and cannot be >> an "adjourned meeting." >> >> T LEE HORNE, III >> >> Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA >> >> President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 >> >> Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 >> >> Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign >> 2003-2007 >> >> tleehorneiii at gmail.com >> >> 318-542-4445 google voice >> >> tleehorneiii skype >> >> HTTP://BIT.LY/12ZAQMS [1] >> >> FROM: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org >> [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] ON BEHALF OF Adrien Monteleone >> SENT: Friday, April 12, 2013 4:47 PM >> TO: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors >> SUBJECT: [LPL Board of Directors] Cancellation of Tomorrow's Board >> Meeting >> >> To all Board Members, >> >> Due to the resignation of our Secretary, we will not be able to have >> a quorum for tomorrow's meeting. >> >> I will endeavor to find a replacement Secretary as soon as possible, >> but do not think it wise to rush such an appointment on short notice, >> especially considering the recent opposition to email voting >> necessary for confirmation. I also do not want to engage in office >> shuffling just to meet the quorum and then have to reshuffle again >> later. >> >> Therefore, I am cancelling this meeting. >> >> It may be rescheduled for a later date, depending on the timeliness >> of being able to find a Secretary for the Party to fulfill the >> remainder of the term until 2016. >> >> My apologies to all, as I looked forward to meeting some of you in >> person for a full session for the first time. >> >> If you know of any guests who had intended to be there, please inform >> them immediately so they can adjust their plans. >> >> I will be removing the meeting announcement on the website, on the >> Meetup site, and posting an announcement of the cancellation. >> >> -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of >> Louisiana >> >> This message has been processed by Firetrust Benign [2]. >> >> Links: >> ------ >> [1] http://bit.ly/12zAQMS >> [2] http://www.firetrust.com/products/benign/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > ---------------------------------------------------- > This message has been processed by Firetrust Benign. > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org ---------------------------------------------------- This message has been processed by Firetrust Benign. From Paladin at LPLouisiana.org Sat Apr 13 06:48:01 2013 From: Paladin at LPLouisiana.org (T Lee Horne III) Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 07:48:01 -0400 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Cancellation of Tomorrow's Board References: " <516872C4.7030900@lplouisiana.org>" <002101ce3808$9403bd90$bc0b38b0$@org> <005801ce3813$a059d920$e10d8b60$@org> <9ff73a4c4ce368c6eeb763c869ee0720@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <001201ce383c$c0fa1090$42ee31b0$@org> I apologize, I see my initial reply went out through my personal email rather than the party system. I am repeating the earlier email through the official system. T Lee Horne, III -----Original Message----- From: T Lee Horne III [mailto:tlhorne at yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 7:27 AM To: 'Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors' Subject: RE: [LPL Board of Directors] Cancellation of Tomorrow's Board RONR (11th ed.), p. 347, ll. 21-35, p. 348, ll. 1-23 "PROCEEDINGS IN THE ABSENCE OF A QUORUM. In the absence of a quorum, any business transacted (except for the procedural actions noted in the next paragraph) is null and void. But if a quorum fails to appear at a regularly or properly called meeting, the inability to transact business does not detract from the fact that the society's rules requiring the meeting to be held were complied with and the meeting was convened-even though it had to adjourn immediately. Even in the absence of a quorum, the assembly may fix the time to which to adjourn (22), adjourn (21), recess (20), or take measures to obtain a quorum..." ________________________________________ At best, members can meet without a quorum, at the time and place designated for a regular meeting, and they have four choices - none of which will magically produce a quorum, or create a legal meeting in the absence of one. The choices are: #1 - take measures to obtain a quorum - members could attempt to contact the absent members and request their attendance, but that is impossible since there is no duly elected or appointed Secretary. #2 - recess - take a break, hoping to allow time for a quorum to form, but in the immediate case, that is impossible since there is no duly elected or appointed Secretary. #3 - adjourn - that is, leave without doing anything. This happened last July when the quorum requirement was not met. The chair called the meeting to order, recognized the absence of a quorum and promptly adjourned the meeting. We met informally afterwards, but no official actions were taken. #4 - fix the time to which to adjourn - this is where the members can set a new date, time, and/or place to "move" or "reschedule" the meeting to. This rescheduled meeting does not constitute an entirely new meeting, but is a continuation of the previous one. (in this case, the one that did nothing but reschedule) In this immediate case, this attempt is useless. All it can do, is establish another time, date and place for people to waste time gathering and not know if there is going to be a quorum. If you "adjourn to the same place and time, two weeks from April 13th" for example, all you are going to do is create another session of that meeting of April 13th. You still need a quorum on that new date to actually hold a meeting and transact business. There is NOTHING else you can do and there is no way around it. No quorum - no business, adjourned meeting or not. In short, an adjourned meeting with no quorum, is right back where you started with only the same four choices. This is useless and makes no sense. The party is in a precarious and fragile state. Two executive officers are missing, and one supporting officer. The chair has asked for time to properly consider qualified candidates to appoint as replacements per the Bylaws. Until a Secretary can be appointed, and confirmed by the Board (via postal mail ballot since a quorum is not possible otherwise) there can be no legal meeting, adjourned or not. It serves no purpose to "fix the time to which to adjourn" if you have no idea when that appointment will be made and approved. Prudence would dictate here that the Board give the Chair due time to find a suitable Secretary so it can get on with its business. If you want to ensure a regular 2nd Quarter meeting is held, and you really want to create an "adjourned meeting" then the most sensible thing to do, is word the motion to create such a meeting as "adjourn to a time and place specified by the Chairman." This will allow the Bylaws to be fulfilled for the purpose of having the 2nd quarter meeting at the time and place as set by resolution, and to give the Chair the discretion and time he needs to fill the vacant office without haste or rash judgment forced upon him by impertinent and impatient members. There is no emergency here. There is not even a need to create an adjourned meeting. The chair has indicated the meeting in question will be rescheduled. (which is all the motion to "fix the time to which to adjourn" will do in the absence of a quorum) And he will naturally reschedule this meeting ONCE he has appointed a new Secretary and the Board has approved the appointment. It is utterly useless to schedule a meeting by any means, via adjourned meeting, or call of the chair, or otherwise if it is not known if a quorum is even possible, and especially in the absence of a Secretary, it is thus known to be IMPOSSIBLE. In short, chill out. Offer suggestions to the Chair for Secretary. Volunteer for the position yourself. This is not life or death, the party goes on, and it will get through this in a reasonable time frame. It is not the first time something similar has happened and not likely the last. Waste time tomorrow if you want to rescheduling without any information to base that new session on, but there clearly is no point to doing so. ________________________________________ Finally, "Robert's Rules of Order for Dummies" has no bearing on, and is NOT, the parliamentary authority for the LPL. ONLY "Robert's Rules of Order Newly Revised 11th Edition" is the authority that can be cited or referred to. T Lee Horne, III Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 -----Original Message----- From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Hayes Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 3:34 AM To: scc at lplouisiana.org Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Cancellation of Tomorrow's Board T Lee.. I refer people to section 40 I listed in my prior Email..The meeting tomorrow IS the LEGALLY set regular meeting. You can think what you want..everyone should attend. WHILE we may not be able to conduct business other than what I stated. As the meeting has been called..we MUST hold the meeting. You can argue what you want..but I have the phone to my ear with a professional parlimentarian at 2:30 AM and I am reading him back everything I am typing and he has confirmed all of it. See you tomorrow. Daniel Hayes Jefferson Parish Representative to the LSCC On 2013-04-13 01:53, T Lee Horne III wrote: > Anyone can meet at any time and the party by-laws are specific, > regardless of the number of people attending if there is no Secretary > there is no Quorum. > > Any attempt to conduct ANY business without the Secretary and either > the Chair or Vice-Chair preset tomorrow will constitute an illegal > meeting, and any action taken will have no weight or bearing upon the > party. If any attempt is made to hold such a meeting and act without a > quorum all such motions or votes or decisions taken therein are > without effect and void. We will reschedule this meeting, but do not > attempt to hold one illegally. Of course, anyone is free to gather > informally, and without attempting to take any official action. Any > meeting held tomorrow without an official quorum is not and cannot be > an "adjourned meeting." > > > T Lee Horne, III > > -----Original Message----- > From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org > [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Hayes > Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 2:46 AM > To: scc at lplouisiana.org > Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Cancellation of Tomorrow's Board > Meeting > > We will meet...you can choose to be there..or stay home. No matter > what...the Chair does not have authority to cancel the regularly > scheduled and called meeting. THIS is not an adjourned meeting. It is > a regularly called meeting. > > from the 11th edition of Robert's Rules of order..RONR 11th ed Section > 40, page 347, "..... even in the absence of a quorum, the assembly may > fix the time to which to adjorn, adjourn, or take measures to obtain a > quorum....." > The motion to fix the time to which to adjourn is the legal act by > which an assembly sets an adjourned meeting...quorum or no quorum. > Utterly proper and legal in cases where no quorum is present. THIS is > the legal meeting tomorrow. > > In a phone conference together..Richard Brown the parlimentarian that > will be present tomorrow, along with C.Allen Jennings author of > Roberts Rules for Dummies agreed that what I have stated above IS the > proper course of action. > also see Robert's Rules for Dummies, Page 52. 1st edition "Dealing > with an absence of a quorum" > > > Daniel Hayes > Jefferson Parish Representative to the LSCC. > > On 2013-04-13 00:34, T Lee Horne III wrote: >> RONR (11th ed.), p.93, ll.25-35,p. 94, ll. 1-4"An adjourned meeting >> is a meeting in continuation of the session of the immediately >> preceding regular meeting or special meeting. >> >> The name adjourned meeting means that the meeting is scheduled for a >> particular time (and place, if it is not otherwise established) by >> the assembly's "adjourning to" or "adjourning until" that time and >> place. >> If a regular meeting or a special meeting is unable to complete its >> work, an adjourned meeting can be scheduled for later the same day or >> some other convenient time before the next regular meeting by the >> adoption (as applicable) of a main or privileged motion to fix the >> time to which to adjourn, or a main motion to adjourn until a >> specified time (see 21, 22). In such a case, the adjourned meeting is >> sometimes spoken of as the "adjournment of" the regular or special >> meeting. This usage should not be confused with the act of >> adjourning."It is clear from Robert's Rules here that an "adjourned >> meeting" is something that is established by act of the Board while >> still in a session that has or is presumed to have a quorum when it >> can't get to everything on its agenda, in effect, it is a way to >> continue a meeting, with the presumption of a quorum existing, to >> another time and or place. It does NOT mean a meeting can be held >> without a quorum. It is not another name for an attempt to hold a >> meeting without a quorum. No official action can take place without a >> quorum no matter what you call the meeting. >> >> The last meeting in Shreveport did NOT "adjourn until April 13th in >> the city of New Orleans" and therefore did not create an adjourned >> meeting. An adjourned meeting, as stated, can only be created by a >> motion, in a session with a quorum to continue the meeting it is made >> in at another time and or place. The meeting in Shreveport adjourned >> - >> ended, without qualification. >> >> Any attempt to conduct ANY business without the Secretary and either >> the Chair or Vice-Chair preset tomorrow will constitute an illegal >> meeting, and any action taken will have no weight or bearing upon the >> party. If any attempt is made to hold such a meeting and act without >> a quorum all such motions or votes or decisions taken therein are >> without effect and void. We will reschedule this meeting, but do not >> attempt to hold one illegally. Of course, anyone is free to gather >> informally, and without attempting to take any official action. Any >> meeting held tomorrow without an official quorum is not and cannot be >> an "adjourned meeting." >> >> Any attempt to conduct ANY business without the Secretary and either >> the Chair or Vice-Chair preset tomorrow will constitute an illegal >> meeting, and any action taken will have no weight or bearing upon the >> party. If any attempt is made to hold such a meeting and act without >> a quorum all such motions or votes or decisions taken therein are >> without effect and void. We will reschedule this meeting, but do not >> attempt to hold one illegally. Of course, anyone is free to gather >> informally, and without attempting to take any official action. Any >> meeting held tomorrow without an official quorum is not and cannot be >> an "adjourned meeting." >> >> T LEE HORNE, III >> >> Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA >> >> President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 >> >> Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 >> >> Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign >> 2003-2007 >> >> tleehorneiii at gmail.com >> >> 318-542-4445 google voice >> >> tleehorneiii skype >> >> HTTP://BIT.LY/12ZAQMS [1] >> >> FROM: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org >> [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] ON BEHALF OF Adrien Monteleone >> SENT: Friday, April 12, 2013 4:47 PM >> TO: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors >> SUBJECT: [LPL Board of Directors] Cancellation of Tomorrow's Board >> Meeting >> >> To all Board Members, >> >> Due to the resignation of our Secretary, we will not be able to have >> a quorum for tomorrow's meeting. >> >> I will endeavor to find a replacement Secretary as soon as possible, >> but do not think it wise to rush such an appointment on short notice, >> especially considering the recent opposition to email voting >> necessary for confirmation. I also do not want to engage in office >> shuffling just to meet the quorum and then have to reshuffle again >> later. >> >> Therefore, I am cancelling this meeting. >> >> It may be rescheduled for a later date, depending on the timeliness >> of being able to find a Secretary for the Party to fulfill the >> remainder of the term until 2016. >> >> My apologies to all, as I looked forward to meeting some of you in >> person for a full session for the first time. >> >> If you know of any guests who had intended to be there, please inform >> them immediately so they can adjust their plans. >> >> I will be removing the meeting announcement on the website, on the >> Meetup site, and posting an announcement of the cancellation. >> >> -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of >> Louisiana >> >> This message has been processed by Firetrust Benign [2]. >> >> Links: >> ------ >> [1] http://bit.ly/12zAQMS >> [2] http://www.firetrust.com/products/benign/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > ---------------------------------------------------- > This message has been processed by Firetrust Benign. > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org ---------------------------------------------------- This message has been processed by Firetrust Benign. From sccrep at jefferson.lplouisiana.org Sat Apr 13 08:47:30 2013 From: sccrep at jefferson.lplouisiana.org (Daniel Hayes) Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 08:47:30 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Cancellation of Tomorrow's Board In-Reply-To: <001201ce383c$c0fa1090$42ee31b0$@org> References: "\"\\\" <516872C4.7030900@lplouisiana.org>\\\" <002101ce3808$9403bd90$bc0b38b0$@org>" " <005801ce3813$a059d920$e10d8b60$@org> <9ff73a4c4ce368c6eeb763c869ee0720@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> <001201ce383c$c0fa1090$42ee31b0$@org> Message-ID: <697d6c7a09b0c6a12ad0be213357d2c9@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> 6. A State Central Committee member who fails to attend two consecutive regular meetings of the State Central Committee shall be deemed to have vacated his or her seat. This is the legal regular meeting today. If your advice is followed, we will be one more officer down as Mr Boyd Smith was not in attendance at the Shreveport meeting. I quote from your own posting of RONR, "...the inability to transact business does not detract from the fact that the society's rules requiring the meeting to be held were complied with and the meeting was convened-even though it had to adjourn immediately." Pay particular attention to the part of the passage that says "the society's rules requiring the meeting to be held" We are legally REQUIRED to meet EVEN if on You ask the SCC be given due time to find a replacement, however Mr Ebarb's departure was not a surprise. He announced that a month ago. His departure only moved up a day. Since taking action to obtain a quorum IS authorized business..we can at the very least discuss that going forward.. Look forward to see you T Lee. Daniel Hayes On 2013-04-13 06:48, T Lee Horne III wrote: > I apologize, I see my initial reply went out through my personal > email > rather than the party system. I am repeating the earlier email > through the > official system. > > T Lee Horne, III > > > -----Original Message----- > From: T Lee Horne III [mailto:tlhorne at yahoo.com] > Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 7:27 AM > To: 'Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors' > Subject: RE: [LPL Board of Directors] Cancellation of Tomorrow's > Board > > RONR (11th ed.), p. 347, ll. 21-35, p. 348, ll. 1-23 > > "PROCEEDINGS IN THE ABSENCE OF A QUORUM. > In the absence of a quorum, any business transacted (except for the > procedural actions noted in the next paragraph) is null and void. But > if a > quorum fails to appear at a regularly or properly called meeting, the > inability to transact business does not detract from the fact that > the > society's rules requiring the meeting to be held were complied with > and the > meeting was convened-even though it had to adjourn immediately. > > Even in the absence of a quorum, the assembly may fix the time to > which to > adjourn (22), adjourn (21), recess (20), or take measures to obtain a > quorum..." > ________________________________________ > > > At best, members can meet without a quorum, at the time and place > designated > for a regular meeting, and they have four choices - none of which > will > magically produce a quorum, or create a legal meeting in the absence > of one. > > The choices are: > > #1 - take measures to obtain a quorum - members could attempt to > contact the > absent members and request their attendance, but that is impossible > since > there is no duly elected or appointed Secretary. > > #2 - recess - take a break, hoping to allow time for a quorum to > form, but > in the immediate case, that is impossible since there is no duly > elected or > appointed Secretary. > > #3 - adjourn - that is, leave without doing anything. This happened > last > July when the quorum requirement was not met. The chair called the > meeting > to order, recognized the absence of a quorum and promptly adjourned > the > meeting. We met informally afterwards, but no official actions were > taken. > > #4 - fix the time to which to adjourn - this is where the members can > set a > new date, time, and/or place to "move" or "reschedule" the meeting > to. This > rescheduled meeting does not constitute an entirely new meeting, but > is a > continuation of the previous one. (in this case, the one that did > nothing > but reschedule) > > In this immediate case, this attempt is useless. All it can do, is > establish > another time, date and place for people to waste time gathering and > not know > if there is going to be a quorum. > > If you "adjourn to the same place and time, two weeks from April > 13th" for > example, all you are going to do is create another session of that > meeting > of April 13th. You still need a quorum on that new date to actually > hold a > meeting and transact business. There is NOTHING else you can do and > there > is no way around it. > > No quorum - no business, adjourned meeting or not. > > In short, an adjourned meeting with no quorum, is right back where > you > started with only the same four choices. > > This is useless and makes no sense. > > The party is in a precarious and fragile state. Two executive > officers are > missing, and one supporting officer. > > The chair has asked for time to properly consider qualified > candidates to > appoint as replacements per the Bylaws. > > Until a Secretary can be appointed, and confirmed by the Board (via > postal > mail ballot since a quorum is not possible otherwise) there can be no > legal > meeting, adjourned or not. > > It serves no purpose to "fix the time to which to adjourn" if you > have no > idea when that appointment will be made and approved. > > Prudence would dictate here that the Board give the Chair due time to > find a > suitable Secretary so it can get on with its business. > > If you want to ensure a regular 2nd Quarter meeting is held, and you > really > want to create an "adjourned meeting" then the most sensible thing to > do, is > word the motion to create such a meeting as "adjourn to a time and > place > specified by the Chairman." This will allow the Bylaws to be > fulfilled for > the purpose of having the 2nd quarter meeting at the time and place > as set > by resolution, and to give the Chair the discretion and time he needs > to > fill the vacant office without haste or rash judgment forced upon him > by > impertinent and impatient members. > > There is no emergency here. There is not even a need to create an > adjourned > meeting. The chair has indicated the meeting in question will be > rescheduled. (which is all the motion to "fix the time to which to > adjourn" > will do in the absence of a quorum) And he will naturally reschedule > this > meeting ONCE he has appointed a new Secretary and the Board has > approved the > appointment. It is utterly useless to schedule a meeting by any > means, via > adjourned meeting, or call of the chair, or otherwise if it is not > known if > a quorum is even possible, and especially in the absence of a > Secretary, it > is thus known to be IMPOSSIBLE. > > In short, chill out. Offer suggestions to the Chair for Secretary. > Volunteer for the position yourself. This is not life or death, the > party > goes on, and it will get through this in a reasonable time frame. It > is not > the first time something similar has happened and not likely the > last. > Waste time tomorrow if you want to rescheduling without any > information to > base that new session on, but there clearly is no point to doing so. > ________________________________________ > Finally, "Robert's Rules of Order for Dummies" has no bearing on, and > is > NOT, the parliamentary authority for the LPL. > > ONLY "Robert's Rules of Order Newly Revised 11th Edition" is the > authority > that can be cited or referred to. > > > > T Lee Horne, III > Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA President of Brumby > Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 Former Chairman of Libertarian Party > of > Louisiana 2009-2012 Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a > 4 year > campaign 2003-2007 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org > [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On > Behalf Of Daniel Hayes > Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 3:34 AM > To: scc at lplouisiana.org > Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Cancellation of Tomorrow's > Board > > T Lee.. I refer people to section 40 I listed in my prior Email..The > meeting > tomorrow IS the LEGALLY set regular meeting. You can think what you > want..everyone should attend. > > WHILE we may not be able to conduct business other than what I > stated. > As the meeting has been called..we MUST hold the meeting. You can > argue what > you want..but I have the phone to my ear with a professional > parlimentarian > at 2:30 AM and I am reading him back everything I am typing and he > has > confirmed all of it. See you tomorrow. > > Daniel Hayes > Jefferson Parish Representative to the LSCC > > > > > On 2013-04-13 01:53, T Lee Horne III wrote: >> Anyone can meet at any time and the party by-laws are specific, >> regardless of the number of people attending if there is no >> Secretary >> there is no Quorum. >> >> Any attempt to conduct ANY business without the Secretary and either >> the Chair or Vice-Chair preset tomorrow will constitute an illegal >> meeting, and any action taken will have no weight or bearing upon >> the >> party. If any attempt is made to hold such a meeting and act without >> a >> quorum all such motions or votes or decisions taken therein are >> without effect and void. We will reschedule this meeting, but do not >> attempt to hold one illegally. Of course, anyone is free to gather >> informally, and without attempting to take any official action. Any >> meeting held tomorrow without an official quorum is not and cannot >> be >> an "adjourned meeting." >> >> >> T Lee Horne, III >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org >> [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Hayes >> Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 2:46 AM >> To: scc at lplouisiana.org >> Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Cancellation of Tomorrow's >> Board >> Meeting >> >> We will meet...you can choose to be there..or stay home. No matter >> what...the Chair does not have authority to cancel the regularly >> scheduled and called meeting. THIS is not an adjourned meeting. It >> is >> a regularly called meeting. >> >> from the 11th edition of Robert's Rules of order..RONR 11th ed >> Section >> 40, page 347, "..... even in the absence of a quorum, the assembly >> may >> fix the time to which to adjorn, adjourn, or take measures to obtain >> a >> quorum....." >> The motion to fix the time to which to adjourn is the legal act by >> which an assembly sets an adjourned meeting...quorum or no quorum. >> Utterly proper and legal in cases where no quorum is present. THIS >> is >> the legal meeting tomorrow. >> >> In a phone conference together..Richard Brown the parlimentarian >> that >> will be present tomorrow, along with C.Allen Jennings author of >> Roberts Rules for Dummies agreed that what I have stated above IS >> the >> proper course of action. >> also see Robert's Rules for Dummies, Page 52. 1st edition "Dealing >> with an absence of a quorum" >> >> >> Daniel Hayes >> Jefferson Parish Representative to the LSCC. >> >> On 2013-04-13 00:34, T Lee Horne III wrote: >>> RONR (11th ed.), p.93, ll.25-35,p. 94, ll. 1-4"An adjourned meeting >>> is a meeting in continuation of the session of the immediately >>> preceding regular meeting or special meeting. >>> >>> The name adjourned meeting means that the meeting is scheduled for >>> a >>> particular time (and place, if it is not otherwise established) by >>> the assembly's "adjourning to" or "adjourning until" that time and >>> place. >>> If a regular meeting or a special meeting is unable to complete its >>> work, an adjourned meeting can be scheduled for later the same day >>> or >>> some other convenient time before the next regular meeting by the >>> adoption (as applicable) of a main or privileged motion to fix the >>> time to which to adjourn, or a main motion to adjourn until a >>> specified time (see 21, 22). In such a case, the adjourned meeting >>> is >>> sometimes spoken of as the "adjournment of" the regular or special >>> meeting. This usage should not be confused with the act of >>> adjourning."It is clear from Robert's Rules here that an "adjourned >>> meeting" is something that is established by act of the Board while >>> still in a session that has or is presumed to have a quorum when it >>> can't get to everything on its agenda, in effect, it is a way to >>> continue a meeting, with the presumption of a quorum existing, to >>> another time and or place. It does NOT mean a meeting can be held >>> without a quorum. It is not another name for an attempt to hold a >>> meeting without a quorum. No official action can take place without >>> a >>> quorum no matter what you call the meeting. >>> >>> The last meeting in Shreveport did NOT "adjourn until April 13th in >>> the city of New Orleans" and therefore did not create an adjourned >>> meeting. An adjourned meeting, as stated, can only be created by a >>> motion, in a session with a quorum to continue the meeting it is >>> made >>> in at another time and or place. The meeting in Shreveport >>> adjourned >>> - >>> ended, without qualification. >>> >>> Any attempt to conduct ANY business without the Secretary and >>> either >>> the Chair or Vice-Chair preset tomorrow will constitute an illegal >>> meeting, and any action taken will have no weight or bearing upon >>> the >>> party. If any attempt is made to hold such a meeting and act >>> without >>> a quorum all such motions or votes or decisions taken therein are >>> without effect and void. We will reschedule this meeting, but do >>> not >>> attempt to hold one illegally. Of course, anyone is free to gather >>> informally, and without attempting to take any official action. Any >>> meeting held tomorrow without an official quorum is not and cannot >>> be >>> an "adjourned meeting." >>> >>> Any attempt to conduct ANY business without the Secretary and >>> either >>> the Chair or Vice-Chair preset tomorrow will constitute an illegal >>> meeting, and any action taken will have no weight or bearing upon >>> the >>> party. If any attempt is made to hold such a meeting and act >>> without >>> a quorum all such motions or votes or decisions taken therein are >>> without effect and void. We will reschedule this meeting, but do >>> not >>> attempt to hold one illegally. Of course, anyone is free to gather >>> informally, and without attempting to take any official action. Any >>> meeting held tomorrow without an official quorum is not and cannot >>> be >>> an "adjourned meeting." >>> >>> T LEE HORNE, III >>> >>> Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA >>> >>> President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 >>> >>> Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 >>> >>> Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign >>> 2003-2007 >>> >>> tleehorneiii at gmail.com >>> >>> 318-542-4445 google voice >>> >>> tleehorneiii skype >>> >>> HTTP://BIT.LY/12ZAQMS [1] >>> >>> FROM: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org >>> [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] ON BEHALF OF Adrien Monteleone >>> SENT: Friday, April 12, 2013 4:47 PM >>> TO: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors >>> SUBJECT: [LPL Board of Directors] Cancellation of Tomorrow's Board >>> Meeting >>> >>> To all Board Members, >>> >>> Due to the resignation of our Secretary, we will not be able to >>> have >>> a quorum for tomorrow's meeting. >>> >>> I will endeavor to find a replacement Secretary as soon as >>> possible, >>> but do not think it wise to rush such an appointment on short >>> notice, >>> especially considering the recent opposition to email voting >>> necessary for confirmation. I also do not want to engage in office >>> shuffling just to meet the quorum and then have to reshuffle again >>> later. >>> >>> Therefore, I am cancelling this meeting. >>> >>> It may be rescheduled for a later date, depending on the timeliness >>> of being able to find a Secretary for the Party to fulfill the >>> remainder of the term until 2016. >>> >>> My apologies to all, as I looked forward to meeting some of you in >>> person for a full session for the first time. >>> >>> If you know of any guests who had intended to be there, please >>> inform >>> them immediately so they can adjust their plans. >>> >>> I will be removing the meeting announcement on the website, on the >>> Meetup site, and posting an announcement of the cancellation. >>> >>> -- In Liberty, Adrien Monteleone - Chairman Libertarian Party of >>> Louisiana >>> >>> This message has been processed by Firetrust Benign [2]. >>> >>> Links: >>> ------ >>> [1] http://bit.ly/12zAQMS >>> [2] http://www.firetrust.com/products/benign/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SCC mailing list >>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> ---------------------------------------------------- >> This message has been processed by Firetrust Benign. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > ---------------------------------------------------- > This message has been processed by Firetrust Benign. > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org From vice-chairman at lplouisiana.org Sun Apr 14 08:53:14 2013 From: vice-chairman at lplouisiana.org (Scott A. Lewis III) Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 09:53:14 -0400 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] To Great Beginnings Message-ID: <20130414095314.71836jmjdny88d6y@webmail.lplouisiana.org> Greetings all: Am pleased to be working with you, am looking forward to our task of providing the best leadership to Louisiana that we are capable of doing. I want to thank all the members that attended the meeting in New Orleans, those that could attend we would like for you to catch with our activities and work together with each and every other member to make this the best Party in the state. Congratulations to the new Officers that have recently given a commitment to serve the board and you. We are in a transitional mode, please be patient with us. We will do our best as the new board and ask you to allow us time for all the new officers to be brought up to date on the previous activities of the board so as to maintain a good transition of our respective jobs and responsibilities. Once the minutes have been completed we will make them available to you. Any ideas that you may have please submit them in writing so that the Party may grow and prosper. Thanking you in advance for your time and consideration. Scott A. Lewis, III - "A Paladin for the People", Chairman From membership at lplouisiana.org Sun Apr 14 12:54:46 2013 From: membership at lplouisiana.org (Membership LPL) Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 12:54:46 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] To Great Beginnings In-Reply-To: <20130414095314.71836jmjdny88d6y@webmail.lplouisiana.org> References: <20130414095314.71836jmjdny88d6y@webmail.lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <000601ce3939$27520990$75f61cb0$@org> Scott and/or James; I see that this Wednesday is a Strategy meeting. Are we still on for that? --------------------------- Howard Kearney Membership -----Original Message----- From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of Scott A. Lewis III Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2013 8:53 AM To: scc at lplouisiana.org Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] To Great Beginnings Greetings all: Am pleased to be working with you, am looking forward to our task of providing the best leadership to Louisiana that we are capable of doing. I want to thank all the members that attended the meeting in New Orleans, those that could attend we would like for you to catch with our activities and work together with each and every other member to make this the best Party in the state. Congratulations to the new Officers that have recently given a commitment to serve the board and you. We are in a transitional mode, please be patient with us. We will do our best as the new board and ask you to allow us time for all the new officers to be brought up to date on the previous activities of the board so as to maintain a good transition of our respective jobs and responsibilities. Once the minutes have been completed we will make them available to you. Any ideas that you may have please submit them in writing so that the Party may grow and prosper. Thanking you in advance for your time and consideration. Scott A. Lewis, III - "A Paladin for the People", Chairman _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org From vice-chairman at lplouisiana.org Sun Apr 14 19:40:42 2013 From: vice-chairman at lplouisiana.org (Scott A. Lewis III) Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 20:40:42 -0400 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] To Great Beginnings In-Reply-To: <000601ce3939$27520990$75f61cb0$@org> References: <20130414095314.71836jmjdny88d6y@webmail.lplouisiana.org> <000601ce3939$27520990$75f61cb0$@org> Message-ID: <20130414204042.896711fgx7bwssqy@webmail.lplouisiana.org> The Strategic Planning committee is still scheduled if the Vice Chairman is willing and prepared to do so. Because of the newness of our board structure and officers this may be optional and I will leave the meeting at the discretion of the Vice Chairman.Thank you, any questions please do not hesitate to communicate. Quoting Membership LPL : > Scott and/or James; > I see that this Wednesday is a Strategy meeting. Are we still on for that? > > > --------------------------- > Howard Kearney > Membership > > -----Original Message----- > From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On > Behalf Of Scott A. Lewis III > Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2013 8:53 AM > To: scc at lplouisiana.org > Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] To Great Beginnings > > Greetings all: > Am pleased to be working with you, am looking forward to our task of > providing the best leadership to Louisiana that we are capable of > doing. I want to thank all the members that attended the meeting in > New Orleans, those that could attend we would like for you to catch > with our activities and work together with each and every other member > to make this the best Party in the state. > > Congratulations to the new Officers that have recently given a > commitment to serve the board and you. We are in a transitional mode, > please be patient with us. We will do our best as the new board and > ask you to allow us time for all the new officers to be brought up to > date on the previous activities of the board so as to maintain a good > transition of our respective jobs and responsibilities. > > Once the minutes have been completed we will make them available to > you. Any ideas that you may have please submit them in writing so that > the Party may grow and prosper. > > Thanking you in advance for your time and consideration. > > > Scott A. Lewis, III - "A Paladin for the People", Chairman > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > From media at lplouisiana.org Mon Apr 15 12:06:13 2013 From: media at lplouisiana.org (Keith Thompson) Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 12:06:13 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] New Members Message-ID: <5600775c96667006b991aaff4d662511@lplouisiana.org> Good afternoon, all: I would like to welcome our new SCC members, James Madison (Vice-Chair), Caleb Trotter (Treasurer), and Jennifer "Hap" Werther (Secretary). Our three new officers should now have access to their LPL officer email addresses (vice-chair, treasurer, and secretary @lplouisiana.org) and they should all be on the SCC mailing list (scc at lplouisiana.org). Thank you to all those who showed up at our meeting on Saturday to make it a success. In Liberty, KEITH THOMPSON _Communications Officer_ Libertarian Party of Louisiana media at lplouisiana.org LPLouisiana.org [1] Links: ------ [1] http://www.lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chairman at lplouisiana.org Mon Apr 15 12:52:46 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (chairman at lplouisiana.org) Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 12:52:46 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] New Members In-Reply-To: <5600775c96667006b991aaff4d662511@lplouisiana.org> References: <5600775c96667006b991aaff4d662511@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <3b233a656548a5f439a23a61082c6a8e@lplouisiana.org> Greetings to all members: I would like to give a special thanks to Keith Thompson for the work and timeliness of getting all the new officers on tract with our communications. We have weathered the storm and are back on course to impact the state and become a driving force for "Liberty". Many of the accomplishments you are commended for, without your dedication for standing up for doing the right things, protecting the rights of others and self including but not limited to family, are the reasons that America and more specifically Louisiana shall prevail. The job ahead of us is to make the Libertarian Party of Louisiana the best and most productive Party in Louisiana. We are committed to give 110% and bring about changes that will enhance the future of our respective families. Politics is the foundation that has been used to protect and govern the people. Of the people, by the people and for the people are the fundamentals of our country, state and this Party. I would like to personally thank you for giving us, the new officers,time to make the necessary adjustments to function and serve you. All of the new officers have made a commitment to do their best and all agreed that the principles and policy of the Libertarian Party shall be upheld. We will keep an open door policy for everyone. Thanking you for your time and consideration. Scott A. Lewis, III - "A Paladin for the People" Chairman On 2013-04-15 12:06, Keith Thompson wrote: > Good afternoon, all: > > I would like to welcome our new SCC members, James Madison > (Vice-Chair), Caleb Trotter (Treasurer), and Jennifer "Hap" Werther > (Secretary). > > Our three new officers should now have access to their LPL officer > email addresses (vice-chair, treasurer, and secretary > @lplouisiana.org) and they should all be on the SCC mailing list > (scc at lplouisiana.org). > > Thank you to all those who showed up at our meeting on Saturday to > make it a success. > > In Liberty, > > KEITH THOMPSON > _Communications Officer_ > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > media at lplouisiana.org > LPLouisiana.org [1] > > Links: > ------ > [1] http://www.lplouisiana.org > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org From sccrep at jefferson.lplouisiana.org Tue Apr 16 09:03:35 2013 From: sccrep at jefferson.lplouisiana.org (Daniel Hayes) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 09:03:35 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Calling things what they actually are. Message-ID: <1e0abce30e66c47baa1b5d8641953eef@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> When I started consulting with Ricard Brown, the professional parlimentarian that attend the April 13th SCC meeting with me. He noticed references to a "Board of Directors" and he kept asking me "What the heck are they talking about? There is no reference to a Board of any sort in your by laws..and an Executive Board, which you may opt to have in the future, is something very specific, and you don't have one." He just wrote this up specifically for me to share with the members of the SCC. Richard Brown wrote, "Basically, both state law and your bylaws say that the party is governed by a State Central Committee and that is what it is and what it should be called. A board or executive committee is something else. you don't have a "board" or executive committee now, but you might in the future. If you ever do, then all these references to a "board" that doesn't even exist are gong to be very confusing." He then expounded in the IM not intended for general consumption but that I am including, because I think it makes the point even better, the following: "For short, they can refer to it as the SCC. Everybody knows what that is and it eliminates confusion. If they say "the Board decided to do such and such", the question is, "WHAT BOARD"????? As I read over the past chairman's email exahanges, I was constantly stumped by references to "the Board'. I kept wanting to scream, "WHAT BOARD??? WHO IS ON IT??? WHO SET IT UP??? WHAT IS THE AUTHORIZATION FOR IT???" I think we need just K.I.S.S. that euphemism goodbye and call it what state law requires us to. The concept it is only for internal communications, what sense does that make? If its just for us..why bother? Richard noticed people in the SCC meeting calling it verbally "the Board" outside of our internal communications. It just causes confusion and confusion is anathema to good communication and hinders growth. Not sure what we need to do to make this happen, but we need to follow state law and if we want to call it something different, then I suggest we start lobbying the state legislature to change the state law from calling it the State Central Committees to the Happy Fun Cruise Group. However, until that time I suggest keeping it simple, SCC. If we need to hold a vote on this we can do that on our next conference call, but we really don't need to spend a bunch of time on this but it IS important for legal purposes and I'd rather not have to pay a Parlimentarian $50-$250 to handle it. I'd say we got at least $50 of advice for free. If I have to send him researching laws the meter starts ticking. I think we have better things to do and to spend our money on. I think the Media Relations Officer at the direction of the Chairman if he agrees and deems it so, can simply change back the name of the mailing group since it is what is authorized by our by laws and state law. If not, SCC conference call vote or agenda item for the next SCC Quarterly meeting or we could get the Secretary and a bunch of us on the Stategic Planning meeting call and hash it out. Please keep the Preambles of all responses to under 3 pages. Daniel Hayes Jefferson Parish Representative to the Happy Fun Cruise Group of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana From tlhorne at yahoo.com Tue Apr 16 09:25:02 2013 From: tlhorne at yahoo.com (tlhorne at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 09:25:02 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Calling things what they actually are. Message-ID: <1420834229.7816091.1366122311486.JavaMail.webspher@njbbicssmp03> I prefer a call things by the name. The State Central Committee is the proper name, SCC for short is simply a direct abbreviation. Any euphemism is an invitation for confusion. Confusion can lead to conflict, both internal and external. I dislike conflict, and I particularly dislike internal conflict. T Lee Horne III sent this from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID Daniel Hayes wrote: >When I started consulting with Ricard Brown, the professional >parlimentarian that attend the April 13th SCC meeting with me. He >noticed references to a "Board of Directors" and he kept asking me "What >the heck are they talking about? There is no reference to a Board of any >sort in your by laws..and an Executive Board, which you may opt to have >in the future, is something very specific, and you don't have one." He >just wrote this up specifically for me to share with the members of the >SCC. Richard Brown wrote, > >"Basically, both state law and your bylaws say that the party is >governed by a State Central Committee and that is what it is and what it >should be called. A board or executive committee is something else. you >don't have a "board" or executive committee now, but you might in the >future. If you ever do, then all these references to a "board" that >doesn't even exist are gong to be very confusing." > >He then expounded in the IM not intended for general consumption but >that I am including, because I think it makes the point even better, the >following: > >"For short, they can refer to it as the SCC. >Everybody knows what that is and it eliminates confusion. If they say >"the Board decided to do such and such", the question is, "WHAT >BOARD"????? >As I read over the past chairman's email exahanges, I was constantly >stumped by references to "the Board'. I kept wanting to scream, "WHAT >BOARD??? WHO IS ON IT??? WHO SET IT UP??? WHAT IS THE AUTHORIZATION FOR >IT???" > > >I think we need just K.I.S.S. that euphemism goodbye and call it what >state law requires us to. The concept it is only for internal >communications, what sense does that make? If its just for us..why >bother? Richard noticed people in the SCC meeting calling it verbally >"the Board" outside of our internal communications. It just causes >confusion and confusion is anathema to good communication and hinders >growth. Not sure what we need to do to make this happen, but we need to >follow state law and if we want to call it something different, then I >suggest we start lobbying the state legislature to change the state law >from calling it the State Central Committees to the Happy Fun Cruise >Group. However, until that time I suggest keeping it simple, SCC. >If we need to hold a vote on this we can do that on our next conference >call, but we really don't need to spend a bunch of time on this but it >IS important for legal purposes and I'd rather not have to pay a >Parlimentarian $50-$250 to handle it. I'd say we got at least $50 of >advice for free. If I have to send him researching laws the meter starts >ticking. I think we have better things to do and to spend our money on. > I think the Media Relations Officer at the direction of the Chairman >if he agrees and deems it so, can simply change back the name of the >mailing group since it is what is authorized by our by laws and state >law. If not, SCC conference call vote or agenda item for the next SCC >Quarterly meeting or we could get the Secretary and a bunch of us on the >Stategic Planning meeting call and hash it out. Please keep the >Preambles of all responses to under 3 pages. > >Daniel Hayes >Jefferson Parish Representative to the Happy Fun Cruise Group of the >Libertarian Party of Louisiana > >_______________________________________________ >SCC mailing list >SCC at lplouisiana.org >http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fgrif at bellsouth.net Tue Apr 16 09:26:38 2013 From: fgrif at bellsouth.net (Franklin Griffin) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 07:26:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Calling things what they actually are. In-Reply-To: <1e0abce30e66c47baa1b5d8641953eef@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <1366122398.46803.YahooMailClassic@web181605.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> My understanding is that is what the Republi-crats chose to call it in the laws but the laws do not mandate that we actually use that term.? Since it sounded like the communist version of the 'state central committee"?I suggested that it be changed and "board of directors" was chosen by the "board" as a more appropriate name since we are a free market based party and not a centralized state party.? If it is "mandated" by law then we need to change it back until we can change the law.? Otherwise, it seems to be much ado about nothing. ? Just my two cents worth. ? Frank Griffin Lafayete Parish Rep and member of "the board" --- On Tue, 4/16/13, Daniel Hayes wrote: From: Daniel Hayes Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Calling things what they actually are. To: scc at lplouisiana.org Date: Tuesday, April 16, 2013, 9:03 AM When I started consulting with Ricard Brown, the professional parlimentarian that attend the April 13th SCC meeting with me.? He noticed references to a "Board of Directors" and he kept asking me "What the heck are they talking about? There is no reference to a Board of any sort in your by laws..and an Executive Board, which you may opt to have in the future, is something very specific, and you don't have one."? He just wrote this up specifically for me to share with the members of the SCC. Richard Brown wrote, "Basically, both state law and your bylaws say that the party is governed by a State Central Committee and that is what it is and what it should be called. A board or executive committee is something else. you don't have a "board" or executive committee now, but you might in the future. If you ever do, then all these references to a "board" that doesn't even exist are gong to be very confusing." He then expounded in the IM not intended for general consumption but that I am including, because I think it makes the point even better, the following: "For short, they can refer to it as the SCC. Everybody knows what that is and it eliminates confusion. If they say "the Board decided to do such and such", the question is, "WHAT BOARD"????? As I read over the past chairman's email exahanges, I was constantly stumped by references to "the Board'. I kept wanting to scream, "WHAT BOARD??? WHO IS ON IT??? WHO SET IT UP??? WHAT IS THE AUTHORIZATION FOR IT???" I think we need just K.I.S.S. that euphemism goodbye and call it what state law requires us to. The concept it is only for internal communications, what sense does that make? If its just for us..why bother? Richard noticed people in the SCC meeting calling it verbally "the Board" outside of our internal communications.? It just causes confusion and confusion is anathema to good communication and hinders growth. Not sure what we need to do to make this happen, but we need to follow state law and if we want to call it something different, then I suggest we start lobbying the state legislature to change the state law from calling it the State Central Committees to the Happy Fun Cruise Group. However, until that time I suggest keeping it simple, SCC. If we need to hold a vote on this we can do that on our next conference call, but we really don't need to spend a bunch of time on this but it IS important for legal purposes and I'd rather not have to pay a Parlimentarian $50-$250 to handle it. I'd say we got at least $50 of advice for free. If I have to send him researching laws the meter starts ticking.? I think we have better things to do and to spend our money on. I think the Media Relations Officer at the direction of the Chairman if he agrees and deems it so, can simply change back the name of the mailing group since it is what is authorized by our by laws and state law. If not, SCC conference call vote or agenda item for the next SCC Quarterly meeting or we could get the Secretary and a bunch of us on the Stategic Planning meeting call and hash it out.? Please keep the Preambles of all responses to under 3 pages. Daniel Hayes Jefferson Parish Representative to the Happy Fun Cruise Group of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chairman at lplouisiana.org Tue Apr 16 10:04:23 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (chairman at lplouisiana.org) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 10:04:23 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Calling things what they actually are. In-Reply-To: <1e0abce30e66c47baa1b5d8641953eef@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> References: <1e0abce30e66c47baa1b5d8641953eef@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <557acca9a39de91b26bf6b32e16103e1@lplouisiana.org> Dear Mr Hayes: Thank you for your observation and insight in the potential confusion that may cause problems in communications and understanding. This communication shall be sent to all concerned and should provide to curtail any potential problems. Since in our by-laws and state law, which we can not afford to be in contradiction with at any time, by the power granted to this office as Chairman, we shall go back to using the SCC term that complies with our rules. If there is any objections please share with this committee and the members. If there are no objections with 72 hours, Our Secretary should make a change in our records to show that we are in order with the State laws, our By-laws and our organization. Scott A. Lewis, III - "A Paladin for the People" Chairman On 2013-04-16 09:03, Daniel Hayes wrote: > When I started consulting with Ricard Brown, the professional > parlimentarian that attend the April 13th SCC meeting with me. He > noticed references to a "Board of Directors" and he kept asking me > "What the heck are they talking about? There is no reference to a > Board of any sort in your by laws..and an Executive Board, which you > may opt to have in the future, is something very specific, and you > don't have one." He just wrote this up specifically for me to share > with the members of the SCC. Richard Brown wrote, > > "Basically, both state law and your bylaws say that the party is > governed by a State Central Committee and that is what it is and what > it should be called. A board or executive committee is something > else. > you don't have a "board" or executive committee now, but you might in > the future. If you ever do, then all these references to a "board" > that doesn't even exist are gong to be very confusing." > > He then expounded in the IM not intended for general consumption but > that I am including, because I think it makes the point even better, > the following: > > "For short, they can refer to it as the SCC. > Everybody knows what that is and it eliminates confusion. If they say > "the Board decided to do such and such", the question is, "WHAT > BOARD"????? > As I read over the past chairman's email exahanges, I was constantly > stumped by references to "the Board'. I kept wanting to scream, "WHAT > BOARD??? WHO IS ON IT??? WHO SET IT UP??? WHAT IS THE AUTHORIZATION > FOR IT???" > > > I think we need just K.I.S.S. that euphemism goodbye and call it what > state law requires us to. The concept it is only for internal > communications, what sense does that make? If its just for us..why > bother? Richard noticed people in the SCC meeting calling it verbally > "the Board" outside of our internal communications. It just causes > confusion and confusion is anathema to good communication and hinders > growth. Not sure what we need to do to make this happen, but we need > to follow state law and if we want to call it something different, > then I suggest we start lobbying the state legislature to change the > state law from calling it the State Central Committees to the Happy > Fun Cruise Group. However, until that time I suggest keeping it > simple, SCC. > If we need to hold a vote on this we can do that on our next > conference call, but we really don't need to spend a bunch of time on > this but it IS important for legal purposes and I'd rather not have > to > pay a Parlimentarian $50-$250 to handle it. I'd say we got at least > $50 of advice for free. If I have to send him researching laws the > meter starts ticking. I think we have better things to do and to > spend our money on. > I think the Media Relations Officer at the direction of the Chairman > if he agrees and deems it so, can simply change back the name of the > mailing group since it is what is authorized by our by laws and state > law. If not, SCC conference call vote or agenda item for the next SCC > Quarterly meeting or we could get the Secretary and a bunch of us on > the Stategic Planning meeting call and hash it out. Please keep the > Preambles of all responses to under 3 pages. > > Daniel Hayes > Jefferson Parish Representative to the Happy Fun Cruise Group of the > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org From chairman at lplouisiana.org Fri Apr 19 11:58:57 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (chairman at lplouisiana.org) Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 11:58:57 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Statechairs Digest, Vol 97, Issue 15 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9fde820bc24440f3caf740cba8c197fc@lplouisiana.org> On 2013-04-19 11:00, statechairs-request at hq.lp.org wrote: > Send Statechairs mailing list submissions to > statechairs at hq.lp.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/statechairs_hq.lp.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > statechairs-request at hq.lp.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > statechairs-owner at hq.lp.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Statechairs digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: A proposal to those of you who aren't coming to the LSLA > conference (Michael Wilson) > > I am curious as to why we as the LP continue to expend funds on > technologies that are readily?available?at no cost (this and the LP > e-Newsletter are great examples). We can easily record / live > broadcast the feeds for free (so long as someone as a handycam or a > webcam/mic). I am not being critical here. I would love to access of > a > video of this (as I can not get free to attend the conference). > Please > feel free to contact me if you would like details on how to make this > happen at no cost.? > > --? > > MICHAEL S. WILSON, J.D.? > STATE CHAIR, THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY OF WV > > P.O. BOX 5459 > VIENNA, WV 26105 > > http://www.lpwv.org [4]? ?? > > THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY OF WV SUCCESSFULLY RECLAIMED MAJOR PARTY STATUS > IN WEST VIRGINIA THROUGH THE 2016 GENERAL ELECTION AND HAS OPEN > BALLOT > ACCESS FOR ALL LIBERTARIAN CANDIDATES?(less municiple races). > > On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 8:06 AM, Matthew Novak > wrote: > >> Have you asked LPCO, to see if they have a member that has >> those?capabilities, before requesting funds?? >> >> Thanks, >> >> MATTHEW NOVAK >> Vice-Chair, Libertarian Party of Tennessee >> 1-888-980-1776 x2 [3] >> PO Box 95 >> Kingsport, TN 37662 >> >> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 12:49 AM, Jeff Orrok, LPCO State Chair >> wrote: >> >>> Greetings fellow state chairs, >>> >>> I have been asked whether there will be video of the conference. ?I >>> am in the process of talking to local videographers, and it looks >>> like we might be able to have enough talent to cover the speakers >>> plus any visuals they will have, however the price for doing so would >>> be $600 (or $1200 to include the visuals with a second camera). >>> >>> I haven't spoken to the LSLA ExCom about their willingness to spend >>> funds on that, but if we estimate a comparable turnout to 2011 >>> (seemed like around half of us) then the 25 chairs-in-absentia could >>> each kick in $50 (= the "standard" price for the seminars), and that >>> would cover all the video we could possibly want, and any surplus can >>> be remitted to the LSLA coffers. >>> >>> What say ye? >>> >>> -- >>> Jeff Orrok >>> State Chair, Libertarian Party of Colorado >>> >>> 11757 W Ken Caryl Ave #F124 >>> Littleton CO 80127 >>> 720-836-7200 ext 1 [1] >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Statechairs mailing list >>> Statechairs at hq.lp.org >>> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/statechairs_hq.lp.org [2] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Statechairs mailing list >> Statechairs at hq.lp.org Gentlemen: With the use of a cell phone video which most of us have you could video the conference and there are free conference calls that will allow up to 1,000 callers. Your budgets may certainly afford these free services. There is no need to spend unnecessary funds for the communications of these meeting unless you want to act as the government that we oppose with their spending habits. If you need any more information concern this you are welcome to call me. 225-284-7148 Thank you for your time and consideration. Scott A. Lewis, III - "A Paladin for the People" Chairman >> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/statechairs_hq.lp.org [2] > > > > Links: > ------ > [1] tel:720-836-7200%20ext%201 > [2] http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/statechairs_hq.lp.org > [3] tel:1-888-980-1776%20x2 > [4] http://www.lpwv.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > Statechairs mailing list > Statechairs at hq.lp.org > http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/statechairs_hq.lp.org From sccrep at jefferson.lplouisiana.org Mon Apr 22 10:38:31 2013 From: sccrep at jefferson.lplouisiana.org (Daniel Hayes) Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:38:31 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Current Financial State of Affairs and other matters. Message-ID: <312ffe11989f038dda5caa362fdac2e0@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> Members, Where do we currently stand with getting all of the accounts transferred over to Treasurer Trotter to access? It strikes me that such a transition should have been completed within the first week. We have many other things that need updating..like access to Piryx,etc. What do we need to do in order to insure this transition is completed before the week is out? Let me know if there is anything I can do to help. I am noticing many other things such as the old officers still be listed along with their pictures on the website. To that end, I encourage everyone if at all possible to submit suitable professional headshots to Mr Keith Thompson our Media Relations officer as soon as possible. Professional dress...blemishes covered...crazy eyebrows waxed..hair combed, etc. We want to be an organization taken serious by professionals so we need to present ourselves as professionals. I suggest we all try and get this task of getting quality head shots to Mr Thompson completed within the month. Obviously, this is just a suggestion on my part and done as much to remind myself as anyone else. Daniel Hayes Jefferson Parish Representative to the LPLSCC From media at lplouisiana.org Mon Apr 22 10:47:18 2013 From: media at lplouisiana.org (Keith Thompson) Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:47:18 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Current Financial State of Affairs and other matters. In-Reply-To: <312ffe11989f038dda5caa362fdac2e0@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> References: <312ffe11989f038dda5caa362fdac2e0@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: I have an email out to Adrian regarding the Piryx account. I would imagine that he has access to it still (which needs to be changed as soon as possible). Regarding the website: It is getting a bit out of date. Does anyone have a current list of PEC officers? Thanks, Keith On 2013-04-22 10:38, Daniel Hayes wrote: > Members, > Where do we currently stand with getting all of the accounts > transferred over to Treasurer Trotter to access? It strikes me that such > a transition should have been completed within the first week. We have > many other things that need updating..like access to Piryx,etc. What do > we need to do in order to insure this transition is completed before the > week is out? Let me know if there is anything I can do to help. > I am noticing many other things such as the old officers still be > listed along with their pictures on the website. To that end, I > encourage everyone if at all possible to submit suitable professional > headshots to Mr Keith Thompson our Media Relations officer as soon as > possible. Professional dress...blemishes covered...crazy eyebrows > waxed..hair combed, etc. We want to be an organization taken serious by > professionals so we need to present ourselves as professionals. I > suggest we all try and get this task of getting quality head shots to Mr > Thompson completed within the month. Obviously, this is just a > suggestion on my part and done as much to remind myself as anyone else. > > Daniel Hayes > Jefferson Parish Representative to the LPLSCC > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] -- KEITH THOMPSON _Communications Officer_ Libertarian Party of Louisiana media at lplouisiana.org LPLouisiana.org [2] Links: ------ [1] http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [2] http://www.lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From treasurer at lplouisiana.org Mon Apr 22 14:27:10 2013 From: treasurer at lplouisiana.org (Caleb Trotter) Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 14:27:10 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Current Financial State of Affairs and other matters. In-Reply-To: <312ffe11989f038dda5caa362fdac2e0@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> References: <312ffe11989f038dda5caa362fdac2e0@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <00189290337b4422e0292796d1e00518@lplouisiana.org> Reed was at the bank today seeing about changing the account access, I'm not clear on what the delay has been. I have requested piryx access as well but haven't heard anything. I cannot verify any financial info/budget info until I have access to all this and make sure only authorized parties are able to access the info. -- Caleb Trotter Treasurer, Libertarian Party of Louisiana State Central Committee 504-810-9787 On 2013-04-22 10:38, Daniel Hayes wrote: > Members, > Where do we currently stand with getting all of the accounts > transferred over to Treasurer Trotter to access? It strikes me that > such a transition should have been completed within the first week. > We have many other things that need updating..like access to > Piryx,etc. What do we need to do in order to insure this transition > is > completed before the week is out? Let me know if there is anything I > can do to help. > I am noticing many other things such as the old officers still be > listed along with their pictures on the website. To that end, I > encourage everyone if at all possible to submit suitable professional > headshots to Mr Keith Thompson our Media Relations officer as soon as > possible. Professional dress...blemishes covered...crazy eyebrows > waxed..hair combed, etc. We want to be an organization taken serious > by professionals so we need to present ourselves as professionals. I > suggest we all try and get this task of getting quality head shots to > Mr Thompson completed within the month. Obviously, this is just a > suggestion on my part and done as much to remind myself as anyone > else. > > > > Daniel Hayes > Jefferson Parish Representative to the LPLSCC > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org From chairman at lplouisiana.org Mon Apr 22 16:16:19 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (chairman at lplouisiana.org) Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 16:16:19 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Current Financial State of Affairs and other matters. In-Reply-To: References: <312ffe11989f038dda5caa362fdac2e0@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <728d22fa79f8248507c8a58677cd5d27@lplouisiana.org> On 2013-04-22 10:47, Keith Thompson wrote: > I have an email out to Adrian regarding the Piryx account. I would > imagine that he has access to it still (which needs to be changed as > soon as possible). > > Regarding the website: It is getting a bit out of date. Does anyone > have a current list of PEC officers? > > Thanks, > > Keith > > On 2013-04-22 10:38, Daniel Hayes wrote: > >> Members, >> Where do we currently stand with getting all of the accounts >> transferred over to Treasurer Trotter to access? It strikes me that >> such >> a transition should have been completed within the first week. We >> have >> many other things that need updating..like access to Piryx,etc. What >> do >> we need to do in order to insure this transition is completed before >> the >> week is out? Let me know if there is anything I can do to help. >> I am noticing many other things such as the old officers still be >> listed along with their pictures on the website. To that end, I >> encourage everyone if at all possible to submit suitable >> professional >> headshots to Mr Keith Thompson our Media Relations officer as soon >> as >> possible. Professional dress...blemishes covered...crazy eyebrows >> waxed..hair combed, etc. We want to be an organization taken serious >> by >> professionals so we need to present ourselves as professionals. I >> suggest we all try and get this task of getting quality head shots >> to Mr >> Thompson completed within the month. Obviously, this is just a >> suggestion on my part and done as much to remind myself as anyone >> else. >> >> Daniel Hayes >> Jefferson Parish Representative to the LPLSCC >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] > > -- > > KEITH THOMPSON > _Communications Officer_ > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > media at lplouisiana.org > LPLouisiana.org [2] > > Links: > ------ > [1] http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > [2] http://www.lplouisiana.org > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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T Lee Horne, III Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 tleehorneiii at gmail.com 318-542-4445 google voice tleehorneiii skype http://bit.ly/12zAQMS From: chairman at rlc.org [mailto:chairman at rlc.org] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 1:50 PM To: T. Horne Subject: Action Alert: Last Chance to Stop the Internet Tax Thanks for coming on board. VISIT WEB PAGE | OUR STORE | DONATE | JOIN US After sending the bill to the floor with no warning and no committee hearings earlier this week, Harry Reid is planning to hold a vote on the small-business killing internet tax bill sometime later today or early tomorrow. We have just hours to convince the Senate to vote down this economically disastrous bill! 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One thing I realized is that many people are just assuming that since things are quiet that all is well. Everyone assumes that "Someone" must be taking care of things. Usually, that someone is our currently contractless and unpaid Executive Director, even though most of what needs taking care of does not fall into the realm of her duties. In the meantime..we still do not have our bank accounts transferred. Mr Trotter informed me that he thinks it will be completed soon, however, he is at the mercy of other parties. Where do we even bank? I think that should be something every member of the SCC should know. I expect our current Treasurer will get a grip on this eventually. I am certainly sympathetic to Mr Trotter's situation having been handed an abject mess, an "electronic shoebox" of notices and links, in no certain cronological or categorical order. All this dropped in his lap during the lead up to his law school finals which end Monday, May 6th, as I believe. I have full confidence that once he is able to direct his attentions to the matter he can get it sorted out. That said, its a shame things were left in that state. We need to insure it never happens like that again. I am sure Mr. Trotter will set the bar and the example of how these records should be kept going forward for his future successors. There are still numerous references to the former leadership all over the websites and elsewhere. Mr. Thompson has removed the ones I have noticed as I have pointed them out, but it would be nice if we could get all our eyes on the matter to get it straight. While it may seem trivial and I agree in most cases it is..there are those ones such as this that I came across just last night. "If you would prefer to mail in your payment, please send it to: ATTN: LPL Treasurer 9340 Davidson road Shreveport, La. 71129" http://www.lplouisiana.org/contribute/donation.php Our money is still being directed to the former Treasurer. THAT is highly disturbing. Larger donations would likely come in check form. And while I expect those funds would be turned over eventually,I concern over when. When there is this much of a lag in the transfer on the bank accounts, and that former acting treasurer was so busy that they had to resign the day before our SCC meeting, even though doing so potentially left us unable to have a quorum and conduct business. Another thing of concern is relative to the filings of our PECs with the Secretary of State. Who is doing that? How is that being done? I am thinking of speaking with my PEC about contracting Mr. Richard Brown to handle the matter for us. Richard was the professional parlimentarian that attended the SCC Quarterly meeting with me. It struck me the other day that he would be the ideal person to undertake the task. Any problems arising from the formatting of the Minutes or By Laws or other matters would be things he could address on the spot or come back with a plan of action for us laid out. The only downside is, he is a professional and would have to be paid. I know for my PEC, that isn't a problem as they have full confidence in him. He helped us correct and revise our by laws and guided us through their adoption. Our members have found his experience worth every penny. In my life, I have found it very costly in the long wrong, to attempt to handle matters requiring professional attention. I suspect that if multiple PECs did it together, it would result in some shared costs for the research,etc. I suspect I already know that nobody else really knows how we are supposed to be doing this because the former Chairman seemed to be not so forthcoming with others on how and why things are being done. I could be wrong as much of that was before my time. If someone DOES have a good grasp on the process..please forward it to me as at the least it will save on some research costs. All that said, if Mr Brown is willing to undertake this task for my parish, at the very least I intend to contract him to make sure it was done properly. I will be contacting the other parishes to see if they want his assistance as well. On another matter, I think that the calling things what they are has been settled and we are going back to calling things what they are. I suggest everyone amend their own personal address book here to reflect the mailing list for the State Central Committee and/or Mr. Thompson take care of that here for us. Here is another two that reflect the improper naming of our SCC. Funny, I thought it was supposed to be for internal purposes only..yet this is a public website..and I saw the SCC referred to in the recent LNP newspaper as the Board. http://www.lplouisiana.org/events/calendar/calendar.php http://www.lplouisiana.org/events/calendar/sccCalendar.php Also, our organization needs money with which to grow. I know many of you already have, but I encourage every member of the SCC to become a recurring monthly donor. It gives us fairly predictable cash flow going forward and will allow us to budget for expenses such as a suitable contract pay for our Executive Director. It doesn't need to be such generous amounts as some of our members have put forward. It needs to be an amount that you can safely fit in your budget each month and not feel a noticeable strain. While I certainly would like more, I think the 1776 Club is a great level for donation. It sets you up to pay $17.76/month to the LPL. I am trying to encourage every PEC member to do this.. Assuming an average of 10 members per PEC..thats 640 members once the state is completed. That would put us at over $11,000/month for our cash flow. That's starting to get in a realm where we can ACTUALLY do something, especially if we are frugal with it and don't act like politicians and spend it before we get it. I understand that some people are students and some people may be unemployed or underemployed, but everyone needs to decide how important this is to them and check their budget. I have the link below for your cut and paste convenience. Thanks to everyone that already has gotten on the donation wagon. Its hard to expect the PECs to do it if the SCC doesnt set the example. "Elections are coming, the politicians are getting fat. Won't you please put $17.76/month in the Libertarian hat. If you don't have $17.76/month , Ten Dollars will do. If you don't have Ten Dollars, then may God bless you." https://secure.piryx.com/donate/3rejnkrb/Libertarian-Party-of-Louisiana/MonthlyPledge This brings up, who is in charge of the Piryx account? Has it been switched? It still shows the Former Chair and Acting Treasurer as being the contact people for it. I am pretty sure this is one Mr. Thompson can't address. Hopefully, Mr Trotter can get it covered next week. I will end this here, I don't want it to turn into a 13 page memo on why I don't like Jelly with my peanut butter on my sandwiches. I just want to bring to everyone's attention that things are not where they need to be. Having spoken to more than a few people, I have learned that everyone thinks everything is fine but are not aware of what needs to be done much less who would be handling the matter. This email is not intended to just be a big gripe. This is a call to action. We have matters to address and its up to us to address it. Even if it's "not your job"..go out of your way to look for things that need to be put in order such as the unchanged donation address and bring it to the proper person's attention. Before we can make an impact on this state, we must put our on house in order and not assume someone else is doing it. We need to take "Personal Responsibility". Daniel Hayes Jefferson Parish Representative to the LSCC Membership Officer for the Jefferson Parish LPEC LPL Finance Committee Member Unoffical Rabble Rouser and Cage Rattler From membership at lplouisiana.org Sun May 5 15:24:29 2013 From: membership at lplouisiana.org (Howard Kearney) Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 15:24:29 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Moving Forward and Putting Our House in Order In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <078a01ce49ce$8c4a4010$a4dec030$@org> We bank at Chase bank. -----Original Message----- From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Hayes Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 11:16 AM To: Mailing list for LPL State Central Committee Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Moving Forward and Putting Our House in Order Things have been very silent here for a while. Inactivity creates complacency. Lack of communication creates inactivity. Inactivity leads to atrophy. One thing I realized is that many people are just assuming that since things are quiet that all is well. Everyone assumes that "Someone" must be taking care of things. Usually, that someone is our currently contractless and unpaid Executive Director, even though most of what needs taking care of does not fall into the realm of her duties. In the meantime..we still do not have our bank accounts transferred. Mr Trotter informed me that he thinks it will be completed soon, however, he is at the mercy of other parties. Where do we even bank? I think that should be something every member of the SCC should know. I expect our current Treasurer will get a grip on this eventually. I am certainly sympathetic to Mr Trotter's situation having been handed an abject mess, an "electronic shoebox" of notices and links, in no certain cronological or categorical order. All this dropped in his lap during the lead up to his law school finals which end Monday, May 6th, as I believe. I have full confidence that once he is able to direct his attentions to the matter he can get it sorted out. That said, its a shame things were left in that state. We need to insure it never happens like that again. I am sure Mr. Trotter will set the bar and the example of how these records should be kept going forward for his future successors. There are still numerous references to the former leadership all over the websites and elsewhere. Mr. Thompson has removed the ones I have noticed as I have pointed them out, but it would be nice if we could get all our eyes on the matter to get it straight. While it may seem trivial and I agree in most cases it is..there are those ones such as this that I came across just last night. "If you would prefer to mail in your payment, please send it to: ATTN: LPL Treasurer 9340 Davidson road Shreveport, La. 71129" http://www.lplouisiana.org/contribute/donation.php Our money is still being directed to the former Treasurer. THAT is highly disturbing. Larger donations would likely come in check form. And while I expect those funds would be turned over eventually,I concern over when. When there is this much of a lag in the transfer on the bank accounts, and that former acting treasurer was so busy that they had to resign the day before our SCC meeting, even though doing so potentially left us unable to have a quorum and conduct business. Another thing of concern is relative to the filings of our PECs with the Secretary of State. Who is doing that? How is that being done? I am thinking of speaking with my PEC about contracting Mr. Richard Brown to handle the matter for us. Richard was the professional parlimentarian that attended the SCC Quarterly meeting with me. It struck me the other day that he would be the ideal person to undertake the task. Any problems arising from the formatting of the Minutes or By Laws or other matters would be things he could address on the spot or come back with a plan of action for us laid out. The only downside is, he is a professional and would have to be paid. I know for my PEC, that isn't a problem as they have full confidence in him. He helped us correct and revise our by laws and guided us through their adoption. Our members have found his experience worth every penny. In my life, I have found it very costly in the long wrong, to attempt to handle matters requiring professional attention. I suspect that if multiple PECs did it together, it would result in some shared costs for the research,etc. I suspect I already know that nobody else really knows how we are supposed to be doing this because the former Chairman seemed to be not so forthcoming with others on how and why things are being done. I could be wrong as much of that was before my time. If someone DOES have a good grasp on the process..please forward it to me as at the least it will save on some research costs. All that said, if Mr Brown is willing to undertake this task for my parish, at the very least I intend to contract him to make sure it was done properly. I will be contacting the other parishes to see if they want his assistance as well. On another matter, I think that the calling things what they are has been settled and we are going back to calling things what they are. I suggest everyone amend their own personal address book here to reflect the mailing list for the State Central Committee and/or Mr. Thompson take care of that here for us. Here is another two that reflect the improper naming of our SCC. Funny, I thought it was supposed to be for internal purposes only..yet this is a public website..and I saw the SCC referred to in the recent LNP newspaper as the Board. http://www.lplouisiana.org/events/calendar/calendar.php http://www.lplouisiana.org/events/calendar/sccCalendar.php Also, our organization needs money with which to grow. I know many of you already have, but I encourage every member of the SCC to become a recurring monthly donor. It gives us fairly predictable cash flow going forward and will allow us to budget for expenses such as a suitable contract pay for our Executive Director. It doesn't need to be such generous amounts as some of our members have put forward. It needs to be an amount that you can safely fit in your budget each month and not feel a noticeable strain. While I certainly would like more, I think the 1776 Club is a great level for donation. It sets you up to pay $17.76/month to the LPL. I am trying to encourage every PEC member to do this.. Assuming an average of 10 members per PEC..thats 640 members once the state is completed. That would put us at over $11,000/month for our cash flow. That's starting to get in a realm where we can ACTUALLY do something, especially if we are frugal with it and don't act like politicians and spend it before we get it. I understand that some people are students and some people may be unemployed or underemployed, but everyone needs to decide how important this is to them and check their budget. I have the link below for your cut and paste convenience. Thanks to everyone that already has gotten on the donation wagon. Its hard to expect the PECs to do it if the SCC doesnt set the example. "Elections are coming, the politicians are getting fat. Won't you please put $17.76/month in the Libertarian hat. If you don't have $17.76/month , Ten Dollars will do. If you don't have Ten Dollars, then may God bless you." https://secure.piryx.com/donate/3rejnkrb/Libertarian-Party-of-Louisiana/Mont hlyPledge This brings up, who is in charge of the Piryx account? Has it been switched? It still shows the Former Chair and Acting Treasurer as being the contact people for it. I am pretty sure this is one Mr. Thompson can't address. Hopefully, Mr Trotter can get it covered next week. I will end this here, I don't want it to turn into a 13 page memo on why I don't like Jelly with my peanut butter on my sandwiches. I just want to bring to everyone's attention that things are not where they need to be. Having spoken to more than a few people, I have learned that everyone thinks everything is fine but are not aware of what needs to be done much less who would be handling the matter. This email is not intended to just be a big gripe. This is a call to action. We have matters to address and its up to us to address it. Even if it's "not your job"..go out of your way to look for things that need to be put in order such as the unchanged donation address and bring it to the proper person's attention. Before we can make an impact on this state, we must put our on house in order and not assume someone else is doing it. We need to take "Personal Responsibility". Daniel Hayes Jefferson Parish Representative to the LSCC Membership Officer for the Jefferson Parish LPEC LPL Finance Committee Member Unoffical Rabble Rouser and Cage Rattler _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org From sccrep at jefferson.lplouisiana.org Sun May 5 15:37:21 2013 From: sccrep at jefferson.lplouisiana.org (Daniel Hayes) Date: Sun, 05 May 2013 15:37:21 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] =?utf-8?q?Moving_Forward_and_Putting_Our?= =?utf-8?q?_House_in=09Order?= In-Reply-To: <078a01ce49ce$8c4a4010$a4dec030$@org> References: <078a01ce49ce$8c4a4010$a4dec030$@org> Message-ID: <8af2680cf93308649f1f3fb289afb11d@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> Hopefully since Mr. Trotter used to work at Chase that helps move that along. I was speaking with Mr Brown about various matters and he was talking to me about banking and organizations and in his experiences has said local banks tend to work better and as I recall specifically mentioned some problems relative to Chase.. Hopefully that doesnt prove to be the case for us and this gets going. > We bank at Chase bank. > > -----Original Message----- > From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org > [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On > Behalf Of Daniel Hayes > Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 11:16 AM > To: Mailing list for LPL State Central Committee > Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Moving Forward and Putting Our > House in > Order > > Things have been very silent here for a while. Inactivity creates > complacency. Lack of communication creates inactivity. Inactivity > leads to > atrophy. One thing I realized is that many people are just assuming > that > since things are quiet that all is well. Everyone assumes that > "Someone" > must be taking care of things. Usually, that someone is our currently > contractless and unpaid Executive Director, even though most of what > needs > taking care of does not fall into the realm of her duties. > In the meantime..we still do not have our bank accounts > transferred. > Mr Trotter informed me that he thinks it will be completed soon, > however, he > is at the mercy of other parties. Where do we even bank? I think that > should > be something every member of the SCC should know. I expect our > current > Treasurer will get a grip on this eventually. I am certainly > sympathetic to > Mr Trotter's situation having been handed an abject mess, an > "electronic > shoebox" of notices and links, in no certain cronological or > categorical > order. All this dropped in his lap during the lead up to his law > school > finals which end Monday, May 6th, as I believe. I have full > confidence that > once he is able to direct his attentions to the matter he can get it > sorted > out. That said, its a shame things were left in that state. We need > to > insure it never happens like that again. I am sure Mr. Trotter will > set the > bar and the example of how these records should be kept going forward > for > his future successors. > > There are still numerous references to the former leadership all over > the > websites and elsewhere. Mr. Thompson has removed the ones I have > noticed as > I have pointed them out, but it would be nice if we could get all our > eyes > on the matter to get it straight. While it may seem trivial and I > agree in > most cases it is..there are those ones such as this that I came > across just > last night. > > "If you would prefer to mail in your payment, please send it to: > ATTN: LPL Treasurer > 9340 Davidson road > Shreveport, La. 71129" > > http://www.lplouisiana.org/contribute/donation.php > > Our money is still being directed to the former Treasurer. THAT is > highly > disturbing. Larger donations would likely come in check form. > And while I expect those funds would be turned over eventually,I > concern > over when. When there is this much of a lag in the transfer on the > bank > accounts, and that former acting treasurer was so busy that they had > to > resign the day before our SCC meeting, even though doing so > potentially left > us unable to have a quorum and conduct business. > > Another thing of concern is relative to the filings of our PECs with > the > Secretary of State. Who is doing that? How is that being done? I am > thinking of speaking with my PEC about contracting Mr. Richard Brown > to > handle the matter for us. Richard was the professional > parlimentarian that > attended the SCC Quarterly meeting with me. It struck me the other > day that > he would be the ideal person to undertake the task. Any problems > arising > from the formatting of the Minutes or By Laws or other matters would > be > things he could address on the spot or come back with a plan of > action for > us laid out. The only downside is, he is a professional and would > have to be > paid. I know for my PEC, that isn't a problem as they have full > confidence > in him. He helped us correct and revise our by laws and guided us > through > their adoption. Our members have found his experience worth every > penny. > In my life, I have found it very costly in the long wrong, to attempt > to > handle matters requiring professional attention. I suspect that if > multiple > PECs did it together, it would result in some shared costs for the > research,etc. I suspect I already know that nobody else really knows > how we > are supposed to be doing this because the former Chairman seemed to > be not > so forthcoming with others on how and why things are being done. I > could be > wrong as much of that was before my time. If someone DOES have a good > grasp > on the process..please forward it to me as at the least it will save > on some > research costs. All that said, if Mr Brown is willing to undertake > this task > for my parish, at the very least I intend to contract him to make > sure it > was done properly. I will be contacting the other parishes to see if > they > want his assistance as well. > > On another matter, I think that the calling things what they are has > been > settled and we are going back to calling things what they are. I > suggest > everyone amend their own personal address book here to reflect the > mailing > list for the State Central Committee and/or Mr. Thompson take care of > that > here for us. > Here is another two that reflect the improper naming of our SCC. > Funny, I > thought it was supposed to be for internal purposes only..yet this is > a > public website..and I saw the SCC referred to in the recent LNP > newspaper as > the Board. > > http://www.lplouisiana.org/events/calendar/calendar.php > http://www.lplouisiana.org/events/calendar/sccCalendar.php > > > Also, our organization needs money with which to grow. I know many of > you > already have, but I encourage every member of the SCC to become a > recurring > monthly donor. It gives us fairly predictable cash flow going forward > and > will allow us to budget for expenses such as a suitable contract pay > for our > Executive Director. It doesn't need to be such generous amounts as > some of > our members have put forward. It needs to be an amount that you can > safely > fit in your budget each month and not feel a noticeable strain. While > I > certainly would like more, I think the 1776 Club is a great level for > donation. It sets you up to pay $17.76/month to the LPL. I am trying > to > encourage every PEC member to do this.. > Assuming an average of 10 members per PEC..thats 640 members once the > state > is completed. That would put us at over $11,000/month for our cash > flow. > That's starting to get in a realm where we can ACTUALLY do something, > especially if we are frugal with it and don't act like politicians > and spend > it before we get it. I understand that some people are students and > some > people may be unemployed or underemployed, but everyone needs to > decide how > important this is to them and check their budget. I have the link > below for > your cut and paste convenience. Thanks to everyone that already has > gotten > on the donation wagon. Its hard to expect the PECs to do it if the > SCC > doesnt set the example. > > "Elections are coming, the politicians are getting fat. > Won't you please put $17.76/month in the Libertarian hat. > If you don't have $17.76/month , Ten Dollars will do. > If you don't have Ten Dollars, then may God bless you." > > > https://secure.piryx.com/donate/3rejnkrb/Libertarian-Party-of-Louisiana/Mont > hlyPledge > > This brings up, who is in charge of the Piryx account? Has it been > switched? > It still shows the Former Chair and Acting Treasurer as being the > contact > people for it. I am pretty sure this is one Mr. Thompson can't > address. > Hopefully, Mr Trotter can get it covered next week. > > I will end this here, I don't want it to turn into a 13 page memo on > why I > don't like Jelly with my peanut butter on my sandwiches. I just want > to > bring to everyone's attention that things are not where they need to > be. > Having spoken to more than a few people, I have learned that everyone > thinks > everything is fine but are not aware of what needs to be done much > less who > would be handling the matter. This email is not intended to just be > a big > gripe. This is a call to action. We have matters to address and its > up to > us to address it. Even if it's "not your job"..go out of your way to > look > for things that need to be put in order such as the unchanged > donation > address and bring it to the proper person's attention. > Before we can make an impact on this state, we must put our on house > in > order and not assume someone else is doing it. We need to take > "Personal > Responsibility". > > > Daniel Hayes > Jefferson Parish Representative to the LSCC Membership Officer for > the > Jefferson Parish LPEC LPL Finance Committee Member Unoffical Rabble > Rouser > and Cage Rattler > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org From secretary at lplouisiana.org Mon May 6 03:01:15 2013 From: secretary at lplouisiana.org (secretary at lplouisiana.org) Date: Mon, 06 May 2013 03:01:15 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Moving Forward and Putting Our House in Order In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks, Daniel. We were just talking on FB. I'm in the same boat with finals today and tomorrow. I may not reply to you right away. I chatted on FB about Reed's passdown with Scott a few days ago as well. Adrien posted a bunch of zip files for what he had on each person's duties. I'm downloading these files now. I just got a good password on Friday. Every new SCS position needs to do the same. Yes, we do need to communicate and get all this straightened out. Hap On 2013-05-05 11:15, Daniel Hayes wrote: > Things have been very silent here for a while. Inactivity creates > complacency. Lack of communication creates inactivity. Inactivity > leads to atrophy. One thing I realized is that many people are just > assuming that since things are quiet that all is well. Everyone > assumes that "Someone" must be taking care of things. Usually, that > someone is our currently contractless and unpaid Executive Director, > even though most of what needs taking care of does not fall into the > realm of her duties. > In the meantime..we still do not have our bank accounts transferred. > Mr Trotter informed me that he thinks it will be completed soon, > however, he is at the mercy of other parties. Where do we even bank? > I > think that should be something every member of the SCC should know. > I > expect our current Treasurer will get a grip on this eventually. I > am > certainly sympathetic to Mr Trotter's situation having been handed an > abject mess, an "electronic shoebox" of notices and links, in no > certain cronological or categorical order. All this dropped in his > lap during the lead up to his law school finals which end Monday, May > 6th, as I believe. I have full confidence that once he is able to > direct his attentions to the matter he can get it sorted out. That > said, its a shame things were left in that state. We need to insure > it never happens like that again. I am sure Mr. Trotter will set the > bar and the example of how these records should be kept going forward > for his future successors. > > There are still numerous references to the former leadership all over > the websites and elsewhere. Mr. Thompson has removed the ones I have > noticed as I have pointed them out, but it would be nice if we could > get all our eyes on the matter to get it straight. While it may seem > trivial and I agree in most cases it is..there are those ones such as > this that I came across just last night. > > "If you would prefer to mail in your payment, please send it to: > ATTN: LPL Treasurer > 9340 Davidson road > Shreveport, La. 71129" > > http://www.lplouisiana.org/contribute/donation.php > > Our money is still being directed to the former Treasurer. THAT is > highly disturbing. Larger donations would likely come in check form. > And while I expect those funds would be turned over eventually,I > concern over when. When there is this much of a lag in the transfer > on > the bank accounts, and that former acting treasurer was so busy that > they had to resign the day before our SCC meeting, even though doing > so potentially left us unable to have a quorum and conduct business. > > Another thing of concern is relative to the filings of our PECs with > the Secretary of State. Who is doing that? How is that being done? I > am thinking of speaking with my PEC about contracting Mr. Richard > Brown to handle the matter for us. Richard was the professional > parlimentarian that attended the SCC Quarterly meeting with me. It > struck me the other day that he would be the ideal person to > undertake > the task. Any problems arising from the formatting of the Minutes or > By Laws or other matters would be things he could address on the spot > or come back with a plan of action for us laid out. The only downside > is, he is a professional and would have to be paid. I know for my > PEC, that isn't a problem as they have full confidence in him. He > helped us correct and revise our by laws and guided us through their > adoption. Our members have found his experience worth every penny. > In my life, I have found it very costly in the long wrong, to attempt > to handle matters requiring professional attention. I suspect that > if > multiple PECs did it together, it would result in some shared costs > for the research,etc. I suspect I already know that nobody else > really knows how we are supposed to be doing this because the former > Chairman seemed to be not so forthcoming with others on how and why > things are being done. I could be wrong as much of that was before > my > time. If someone DOES have a good grasp on the process..please > forward > it to me as at the least it will save on some research costs. All > that > said, if Mr Brown is willing to undertake this task for my parish, at > the very least I intend to contract him to make sure it was done > properly. I will be contacting the other parishes to see if they want > his assistance as well. > > On another matter, I think that the calling things what they are has > been settled and we are going back to calling things what they are. > I > suggest everyone amend their own personal address book here to > reflect > the mailing list for the State Central Committee and/or Mr. Thompson > take care of that here for us. > Here is another two that reflect the improper naming of our SCC. > Funny, I thought it was supposed to be for internal purposes > only..yet > this is a public website..and I saw the SCC referred to in the recent > LNP newspaper as the Board. > > http://www.lplouisiana.org/events/calendar/calendar.php > http://www.lplouisiana.org/events/calendar/sccCalendar.php > > > Also, our organization needs money with which to grow. I know many of > you already have, but I encourage every member of the SCC to become a > recurring monthly donor. It gives us fairly predictable cash flow > going forward and will allow us to budget for expenses such as a > suitable contract pay for our Executive Director. It doesn't need to > be such generous amounts as some of our members have put forward. It > needs to be an amount that you can safely fit in your budget each > month and not feel a noticeable strain. While I certainly would like > more, I think the 1776 Club is a great level for donation. It sets > you > up to pay $17.76/month to the LPL. I am trying to encourage every PEC > member to do this.. Assuming an average of 10 members per PEC..thats > 640 members once the state is completed. That would put us at over > $11,000/month for our cash flow. That's starting to get in a realm > where we can ACTUALLY do something, especially if we are frugal with > it and don't act like politicians and spend it before we get it. I > understand that some people are students and some people may be > unemployed or underemployed, but everyone needs to decide how > important this is to them and check their budget. I have the link > below for your cut and paste convenience. Thanks to everyone that > already has gotten on the donation wagon. Its hard to expect the PECs > to do it if the SCC doesnt set the example. > > "Elections are coming, the politicians are getting fat. > Won't you please put $17.76/month in the Libertarian hat. > If you don't have $17.76/month , Ten Dollars will do. > If you don't have Ten Dollars, then may God bless you." > > > https://secure.piryx.com/donate/3rejnkrb/Libertarian-Party-of-Louisiana/MonthlyPledge > > This brings up, who is in charge of the Piryx account? Has it been > switched? It still shows the Former Chair and Acting Treasurer as > being the contact people for it. I am pretty sure this is one Mr. > Thompson can't address. Hopefully, Mr Trotter can get it covered next > week. > > I will end this here, I don't want it to turn into a 13 page memo on > why I don't like Jelly with my peanut butter on my sandwiches. I > just > want to bring to everyone's attention that things are not where they > need to be. Having spoken to more than a few people, I have learned > that everyone thinks everything is fine but are not aware of what > needs to be done much less who would be handling the matter. This > email is not intended to just be a big gripe. This is a call to > action. We have matters to address and its up to us to address it. > Even if it's "not your job"..go out of your way to look for things > that need to be put in order such as the unchanged donation address > and bring it to the proper person's attention. > Before we can make an impact on this state, we must put our on house > in order and not assume someone else is doing it. We need to take > "Personal Responsibility". > > > Daniel Hayes > Jefferson Parish Representative to the LSCC > Membership Officer for the Jefferson Parish LPEC > LPL Finance Committee Member > Unoffical Rabble Rouser and Cage Rattler > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org From secretary at lplouisiana.org Mon May 6 03:17:15 2013 From: secretary at lplouisiana.org (secretary at lplouisiana.org) Date: Mon, 06 May 2013 03:17:15 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Current Financial State of Affairs and other matters. In-Reply-To: <728d22fa79f8248507c8a58677cd5d27@lplouisiana.org> References: <312ffe11989f038dda5caa362fdac2e0@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> <728d22fa79f8248507c8a58677cd5d27@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: For Caleb - if you don't have all the info you need from Reed on finances, check the zip files from Adrien. For Keith - I'll get something to you as soon as possible for a picture and look at what needs updating from the Secretary. Hap On 2013-04-22 16:16, chairman at lplouisiana.org wrote: > On 2013-04-22 10:47, Keith Thompson wrote: >> I have an email out to Adrian regarding the Piryx account. I would >> imagine that he has access to it still (which needs to be changed as >> soon as possible). >> >> Regarding the website: It is getting a bit out of date. Does anyone >> have a current list of PEC officers? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Keith >> >> On 2013-04-22 10:38, Daniel Hayes wrote: >> >>> Members, >>> Where do we currently stand with getting all of the accounts >>> transferred over to Treasurer Trotter to access? It strikes me that >>> such >>> a transition should have been completed within the first week. We >>> have >>> many other things that need updating..like access to Piryx,etc. >>> What do >>> we need to do in order to insure this transition is completed >>> before the >>> week is out? Let me know if there is anything I can do to help. >>> I am noticing many other things such as the old officers still be >>> listed along with their pictures on the website. To that end, I >>> encourage everyone if at all possible to submit suitable >>> professional >>> headshots to Mr Keith Thompson our Media Relations officer as soon >>> as >>> possible. Professional dress...blemishes covered...crazy eyebrows >>> waxed..hair combed, etc. We want to be an organization taken >>> serious by >>> professionals so we need to present ourselves as professionals. I >>> suggest we all try and get this task of getting quality head shots >>> to Mr >>> Thompson completed within the month. Obviously, this is just a >>> suggestion on my part and done as much to remind myself as anyone >>> else. >>> >>> Daniel Hayes >>> Jefferson Parish Representative to the LPLSCC >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SCC mailing list >>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] >> >> -- >> >> KEITH THOMPSON >> _Communications Officer_ >> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >> media at lplouisiana.org >> LPLouisiana.org [2] >> >> Links: >> ------ >> [1] http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> [2] http://www.lplouisiana.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org From treasurer at lplouisiana.org Wed May 8 16:01:22 2013 From: treasurer at lplouisiana.org (Caleb Trotter) Date: Wed, 08 May 2013 16:01:22 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Moving Forward and Putting Our House in Order In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6206ec3cf056e3cb5087c062d41e5c60@lplouisiana.org> All, I am finally finished with finals and can turn my full attention to getting the finances organized. 1. I am still waiting on access to the bank account at Chase. The last update I got from Reed was on April 30 and the bank had requested a change in some document he was then sending them. I have asked him for a status update today. 2. I now have access to the Piryx account, which is where online donations are processed through. I've updated all the contact info and passwords. 3. Until I can see the bank account I cannot verify income and expenses. That being said, the monthly pledge program is going well. $1162 is currently pledged on a monthly basis. 4. Donations by check/money order can be sent to me at 7446B Hurst St, New Orleans, LA 70118. That's about all I can report for now. -- Caleb Trotter Treasurer, Libertarian Party of Louisiana State Central Committee 504-810-9787 On 2013-05-05 11:15, Daniel Hayes wrote: > Things have been very silent here for a while. Inactivity creates > complacency. Lack of communication creates inactivity. Inactivity > leads to atrophy. One thing I realized is that many people are just > assuming that since things are quiet that all is well. Everyone > assumes that "Someone" must be taking care of things. Usually, that > someone is our currently contractless and unpaid Executive Director, > even though most of what needs taking care of does not fall into the > realm of her duties. > In the meantime..we still do not have our bank accounts transferred. > Mr Trotter informed me that he thinks it will be completed soon, > however, he is at the mercy of other parties. Where do we even bank? > I > think that should be something every member of the SCC should know. > I > expect our current Treasurer will get a grip on this eventually. I > am > certainly sympathetic to Mr Trotter's situation having been handed an > abject mess, an "electronic shoebox" of notices and links, in no > certain cronological or categorical order. All this dropped in his > lap during the lead up to his law school finals which end Monday, May > 6th, as I believe. I have full confidence that once he is able to > direct his attentions to the matter he can get it sorted out. That > said, its a shame things were left in that state. We need to insure > it never happens like that again. I am sure Mr. Trotter will set the > bar and the example of how these records should be kept going forward > for his future successors. > > There are still numerous references to the former leadership all over > the websites and elsewhere. Mr. Thompson has removed the ones I have > noticed as I have pointed them out, but it would be nice if we could > get all our eyes on the matter to get it straight. While it may seem > trivial and I agree in most cases it is..there are those ones such as > this that I came across just last night. > > "If you would prefer to mail in your payment, please send it to: > ATTN: LPL Treasurer > 9340 Davidson road > Shreveport, La. 71129" > > http://www.lplouisiana.org/contribute/donation.php > > Our money is still being directed to the former Treasurer. THAT is > highly disturbing. Larger donations would likely come in check form. > And while I expect those funds would be turned over eventually,I > concern over when. When there is this much of a lag in the transfer > on > the bank accounts, and that former acting treasurer was so busy that > they had to resign the day before our SCC meeting, even though doing > so potentially left us unable to have a quorum and conduct business. > > Another thing of concern is relative to the filings of our PECs with > the Secretary of State. Who is doing that? How is that being done? I > am thinking of speaking with my PEC about contracting Mr. Richard > Brown to handle the matter for us. Richard was the professional > parlimentarian that attended the SCC Quarterly meeting with me. It > struck me the other day that he would be the ideal person to > undertake > the task. Any problems arising from the formatting of the Minutes or > By Laws or other matters would be things he could address on the spot > or come back with a plan of action for us laid out. The only downside > is, he is a professional and would have to be paid. I know for my > PEC, that isn't a problem as they have full confidence in him. He > helped us correct and revise our by laws and guided us through their > adoption. Our members have found his experience worth every penny. > In my life, I have found it very costly in the long wrong, to attempt > to handle matters requiring professional attention. I suspect that > if > multiple PECs did it together, it would result in some shared costs > for the research,etc. I suspect I already know that nobody else > really knows how we are supposed to be doing this because the former > Chairman seemed to be not so forthcoming with others on how and why > things are being done. I could be wrong as much of that was before > my > time. If someone DOES have a good grasp on the process..please > forward > it to me as at the least it will save on some research costs. All > that > said, if Mr Brown is willing to undertake this task for my parish, at > the very least I intend to contract him to make sure it was done > properly. I will be contacting the other parishes to see if they want > his assistance as well. > > On another matter, I think that the calling things what they are has > been settled and we are going back to calling things what they are. > I > suggest everyone amend their own personal address book here to > reflect > the mailing list for the State Central Committee and/or Mr. Thompson > take care of that here for us. > Here is another two that reflect the improper naming of our SCC. > Funny, I thought it was supposed to be for internal purposes > only..yet > this is a public website..and I saw the SCC referred to in the recent > LNP newspaper as the Board. > > http://www.lplouisiana.org/events/calendar/calendar.php > http://www.lplouisiana.org/events/calendar/sccCalendar.php > > > Also, our organization needs money with which to grow. I know many of > you already have, but I encourage every member of the SCC to become a > recurring monthly donor. It gives us fairly predictable cash flow > going forward and will allow us to budget for expenses such as a > suitable contract pay for our Executive Director. It doesn't need to > be such generous amounts as some of our members have put forward. It > needs to be an amount that you can safely fit in your budget each > month and not feel a noticeable strain. While I certainly would like > more, I think the 1776 Club is a great level for donation. It sets > you > up to pay $17.76/month to the LPL. I am trying to encourage every PEC > member to do this.. Assuming an average of 10 members per PEC..thats > 640 members once the state is completed. That would put us at over > $11,000/month for our cash flow. That's starting to get in a realm > where we can ACTUALLY do something, especially if we are frugal with > it and don't act like politicians and spend it before we get it. I > understand that some people are students and some people may be > unemployed or underemployed, but everyone needs to decide how > important this is to them and check their budget. I have the link > below for your cut and paste convenience. Thanks to everyone that > already has gotten on the donation wagon. Its hard to expect the PECs > to do it if the SCC doesnt set the example. > > "Elections are coming, the politicians are getting fat. > Won't you please put $17.76/month in the Libertarian hat. > If you don't have $17.76/month , Ten Dollars will do. > If you don't have Ten Dollars, then may God bless you." > > > https://secure.piryx.com/donate/3rejnkrb/Libertarian-Party-of-Louisiana/MonthlyPledge > > This brings up, who is in charge of the Piryx account? Has it been > switched? It still shows the Former Chair and Acting Treasurer as > being the contact people for it. I am pretty sure this is one Mr. > Thompson can't address. Hopefully, Mr Trotter can get it covered next > week. > > I will end this here, I don't want it to turn into a 13 page memo on > why I don't like Jelly with my peanut butter on my sandwiches. I > just > want to bring to everyone's attention that things are not where they > need to be. Having spoken to more than a few people, I have learned > that everyone thinks everything is fine but are not aware of what > needs to be done much less who would be handling the matter. This > email is not intended to just be a big gripe. This is a call to > action. We have matters to address and its up to us to address it. > Even if it's "not your job"..go out of your way to look for things > that need to be put in order such as the unchanged donation address > and bring it to the proper person's attention. > Before we can make an impact on this state, we must put our on house > in order and not assume someone else is doing it. We need to take > "Personal Responsibility". > > > Daniel Hayes > Jefferson Parish Representative to the LSCC > Membership Officer for the Jefferson Parish LPEC > LPL Finance Committee Member > Unoffical Rabble Rouser and Cage Rattler > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org From vice-chairman at lplouisiana.org Thu May 9 19:19:11 2013 From: vice-chairman at lplouisiana.org (James Madison) Date: Thu, 09 May 2013 20:19:11 -0400 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Moving Forward and Putting Our House in Order In-Reply-To: <6206ec3cf056e3cb5087c062d41e5c60@lplouisiana.org> References: <6206ec3cf056e3cb5087c062d41e5c60@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <20130509201911.13719sa0cbj9omin@webmail.lplouisiana.org> Hope this letter finds everyone doing well, and enjoying life to its fullest. As most of you are aware of, I?ve had some commitments over the last few weeks that have consumed most of my time and attention. However, that situation is now once again under control, so I?m trying to get some Party business wrapped up. Caleb, glad to hear you survived your exams intact. If it is at all possible would you please provide us with another update as to the issues surrounding the status of the SCC gaining access to financial information and accounts that we so desperately need to have control over? Also, we (or perhaps the Caleb) need to address the issue of where we want the LPL mail directed to. With our new Treasurer residing in Orleans, close to the parish line with Jefferson, perhaps we could obtain a PO Box that is convenient to both Caleb, and Wendy? Either way, we need to move on getting an official address (checks could be waiting). Our most urgent financial reporting need, in order to resolve some pressing business matters that require our immediate attention, is to have reporting on the following: Current Liabilities Recurring Liabilities Current Assets Recurring Contributions Respectfully, James Madison Vice-Chairman State Central Committee Libertarian Party of Louisiana Quoting Caleb Trotter : > All, I am finally finished with finals and can turn my full > attention to getting the finances organized. > > 1. I am still waiting on access to the bank account at Chase. The > last update I got from Reed was on April 30 and the bank had > requested a change in some document he was then sending them. I have > asked him for a status update today. > > 2. I now have access to the Piryx account, which is where online > donations are processed through. I've updated all the contact info > and passwords. > > 3. Until I can see the bank account I cannot verify income and > expenses. That being said, the monthly pledge program is going well. > $1162 is currently pledged on a monthly basis. > > 4. Donations by check/money order can be sent to me at 7446B Hurst > St, New Orleans, LA 70118. > > That's about all I can report for now. > > -- > Caleb Trotter > Treasurer, > Libertarian Party of Louisiana State Central Committee > 504-810-9787 > > > On 2013-05-05 11:15, Daniel Hayes wrote: >> Things have been very silent here for a while. Inactivity creates >> complacency. Lack of communication creates inactivity. Inactivity >> leads to atrophy. One thing I realized is that many people are just >> assuming that since things are quiet that all is well. Everyone >> assumes that "Someone" must be taking care of things. Usually, that >> someone is our currently contractless and unpaid Executive Director, >> even though most of what needs taking care of does not fall into the >> realm of her duties. >> In the meantime..we still do not have our bank accounts transferred. >> Mr Trotter informed me that he thinks it will be completed soon, >> however, he is at the mercy of other parties. Where do we even bank? I >> think that should be something every member of the SCC should know. I >> expect our current Treasurer will get a grip on this eventually. I am >> certainly sympathetic to Mr Trotter's situation having been handed an >> abject mess, an "electronic shoebox" of notices and links, in no >> certain cronological or categorical order. All this dropped in his >> lap during the lead up to his law school finals which end Monday, May >> 6th, as I believe. I have full confidence that once he is able to >> direct his attentions to the matter he can get it sorted out. That >> said, its a shame things were left in that state. We need to insure >> it never happens like that again. I am sure Mr. Trotter will set the >> bar and the example of how these records should be kept going forward >> for his future successors. >> >> There are still numerous references to the former leadership all over >> the websites and elsewhere. Mr. Thompson has removed the ones I have >> noticed as I have pointed them out, but it would be nice if we could >> get all our eyes on the matter to get it straight. While it may seem >> trivial and I agree in most cases it is..there are those ones such as >> this that I came across just last night. >> >> "If you would prefer to mail in your payment, please send it to: >> ATTN: LPL Treasurer >> 9340 Davidson road >> Shreveport, La. 71129" >> >> http://www.lplouisiana.org/contribute/donation.php >> >> Our money is still being directed to the former Treasurer. THAT is >> highly disturbing. Larger donations would likely come in check form. >> And while I expect those funds would be turned over eventually,I >> concern over when. When there is this much of a lag in the transfer on >> the bank accounts, and that former acting treasurer was so busy that >> they had to resign the day before our SCC meeting, even though doing >> so potentially left us unable to have a quorum and conduct business. >> >> Another thing of concern is relative to the filings of our PECs with >> the Secretary of State. Who is doing that? How is that being done? I >> am thinking of speaking with my PEC about contracting Mr. Richard >> Brown to handle the matter for us. Richard was the professional >> parlimentarian that attended the SCC Quarterly meeting with me. It >> struck me the other day that he would be the ideal person to undertake >> the task. Any problems arising from the formatting of the Minutes or >> By Laws or other matters would be things he could address on the spot >> or come back with a plan of action for us laid out. The only downside >> is, he is a professional and would have to be paid. I know for my >> PEC, that isn't a problem as they have full confidence in him. He >> helped us correct and revise our by laws and guided us through their >> adoption. Our members have found his experience worth every penny. >> In my life, I have found it very costly in the long wrong, to attempt >> to handle matters requiring professional attention. I suspect that if >> multiple PECs did it together, it would result in some shared costs >> for the research,etc. I suspect I already know that nobody else >> really knows how we are supposed to be doing this because the former >> Chairman seemed to be not so forthcoming with others on how and why >> things are being done. I could be wrong as much of that was before my >> time. If someone DOES have a good grasp on the process..please forward >> it to me as at the least it will save on some research costs. All that >> said, if Mr Brown is willing to undertake this task for my parish, at >> the very least I intend to contract him to make sure it was done >> properly. I will be contacting the other parishes to see if they want >> his assistance as well. >> >> On another matter, I think that the calling things what they are has >> been settled and we are going back to calling things what they are. I >> suggest everyone amend their own personal address book here to reflect >> the mailing list for the State Central Committee and/or Mr. Thompson >> take care of that here for us. >> Here is another two that reflect the improper naming of our SCC. >> Funny, I thought it was supposed to be for internal purposes only..yet >> this is a public website..and I saw the SCC referred to in the recent >> LNP newspaper as the Board. >> >> http://www.lplouisiana.org/events/calendar/calendar.php >> http://www.lplouisiana.org/events/calendar/sccCalendar.php >> >> >> Also, our organization needs money with which to grow. I know many of >> you already have, but I encourage every member of the SCC to become a >> recurring monthly donor. It gives us fairly predictable cash flow >> going forward and will allow us to budget for expenses such as a >> suitable contract pay for our Executive Director. It doesn't need to >> be such generous amounts as some of our members have put forward. It >> needs to be an amount that you can safely fit in your budget each >> month and not feel a noticeable strain. While I certainly would like >> more, I think the 1776 Club is a great level for donation. It sets you >> up to pay $17.76/month to the LPL. I am trying to encourage every PEC >> member to do this.. Assuming an average of 10 members per PEC..thats >> 640 members once the state is completed. That would put us at over >> $11,000/month for our cash flow. That's starting to get in a realm >> where we can ACTUALLY do something, especially if we are frugal with >> it and don't act like politicians and spend it before we get it. I >> understand that some people are students and some people may be >> unemployed or underemployed, but everyone needs to decide how >> important this is to them and check their budget. I have the link >> below for your cut and paste convenience. Thanks to everyone that >> already has gotten on the donation wagon. Its hard to expect the PECs >> to do it if the SCC doesnt set the example. >> >> "Elections are coming, the politicians are getting fat. >> Won't you please put $17.76/month in the Libertarian hat. >> If you don't have $17.76/month , Ten Dollars will do. >> If you don't have Ten Dollars, then may God bless you." >> >> >> https://secure.piryx.com/donate/3rejnkrb/Libertarian-Party-of-Louisiana/MonthlyPledge >> >> This brings up, who is in charge of the Piryx account? Has it been >> switched? It still shows the Former Chair and Acting Treasurer as >> being the contact people for it. I am pretty sure this is one Mr. >> Thompson can't address. Hopefully, Mr Trotter can get it covered next >> week. >> >> I will end this here, I don't want it to turn into a 13 page memo on >> why I don't like Jelly with my peanut butter on my sandwiches. I just >> want to bring to everyone's attention that things are not where they >> need to be. Having spoken to more than a few people, I have learned >> that everyone thinks everything is fine but are not aware of what >> needs to be done much less who would be handling the matter. This >> email is not intended to just be a big gripe. This is a call to >> action. We have matters to address and its up to us to address it. >> Even if it's "not your job"..go out of your way to look for things >> that need to be put in order such as the unchanged donation address >> and bring it to the proper person's attention. >> Before we can make an impact on this state, we must put our on house >> in order and not assume someone else is doing it. We need to take >> "Personal Responsibility". >> >> >> Daniel Hayes >> Jefferson Parish Representative to the LSCC >> Membership Officer for the Jefferson Parish LPEC >> LPL Finance Committee Member >> Unoffical Rabble Rouser and Cage Rattler >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > From membership at lplouisiana.org Fri May 10 22:06:21 2013 From: membership at lplouisiana.org (Howard Kearney) Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 22:06:21 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Phone list In-Reply-To: <312ffe11989f038dda5caa362fdac2e0@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> References: <312ffe11989f038dda5caa362fdac2e0@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <001b01ce4df4$83fe8ea0$8bfbabe0$@org> Here is a phone list report. It is sorted in Last, First, Middle names order. I currently do not have any information as to who is serving and where in the Libertarian party. Note this is just the registered Libertarians as of April 2013, this is not a list of the LPL (aka dues paid up members). Once Caleb settles things that is my next step to bring those two lists into one. --------------------------- Howard Kearney Membership -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I currently do not have any information as to who is serving and > where in the Libertarian party. > > Note this is just the registered Libertarians as of April 2013, this is not > a list of the LPL (aka dues paid up members). Once Caleb settles things that > is my next step to bring those two lists into one. > > > --------------------------- > Howard Kearney > Membership > > From boydw.smith at yahoo.com Sat May 11 09:29:00 2013 From: boydw.smith at yahoo.com (Boyd Smith) Date: Sat, 11 May 2013 07:29:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Phone list In-Reply-To: <20130511084327.15505j6igzy4hnfz@webmail.lplouisiana.org> References: <312ffe11989f038dda5caa362fdac2e0@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> <001b01ce4df4$83fe8ea0$8bfbabe0$@org> <20130511084327.15505j6igzy4hnfz@webmail.lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <1368282540.86184.YahooMailNeo@web161902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Mine is 337-438-9198. ? Boyd W. Smith Elections From: James Madison To: Howard Kearney Cc: 'Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors' Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 7:43 AM Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Phone list If anyone has a list, with cell phone numbers, of the SCC, PEC? officers, and such that would be greatly appreciated. James Madison Vice-Chairman State Central Committee Libertarian Party of Louisiana Cell (985) 640-0718 Quoting Howard Kearney : > Here is a phone list report. It is sorted in Last, First, Middle names > order.? I currently do not have any information as to who is serving and > where in the Libertarian party. > > Note this is just the registered Libertarians as of April 2013, this is not > a list of the LPL (aka dues paid up members). Once Caleb settles things that > is my next step to bring those two lists into one. > > > --------------------------- > Howard Kearney > Membership > > _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From media at lplouisiana.org Sat May 11 19:34:51 2013 From: media at lplouisiana.org (Keith Thompson) Date: Sat, 11 May 2013 19:34:51 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Phone list Message-ID: Mine is 318 475 0283. - Keith Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S? III, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Boyd Smith Date: To: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors ,Howard Kearney Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Phone list Mine is 337-438-9198. ? Boyd W. Smith Elections From: James Madison To: Howard Kearney Cc: 'Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors' Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 7:43 AM Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Phone list If anyone has a list, with cell phone numbers, of the SCC, PEC? officers, and such that would be greatly appreciated. James Madison Vice-Chairman State Central Committee Libertarian Party of Louisiana Cell (985) 640-0718 Quoting Howard Kearney : > Here is a phone list report. It is sorted in Last, First, Middle names > order.? I currently do not have any information as to who is serving and > where in the Libertarian party. > > Note this is just the registered Libertarians as of April 2013, this is not > a list of the LPL (aka dues paid up members). Once Caleb settles things that > is my next step to bring those two lists into one. > > > --------------------------- > Howard Kearney > Membership > > _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fgrif at bellsouth.net Mon May 13 06:10:09 2013 From: fgrif at bellsouth.net (Franklin Griffin) Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 04:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Phone list In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1368443409.97557.YahooMailClassic@web181603.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> 337-344-2916 ? Frank Griffin Lafayette Parish Rep --- On Sat, 5/11/13, Keith Thompson wrote: From: Keith Thompson Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Phone list To: scc at lplouisiana.org, membership at lplouisiana.org Date: Saturday, May 11, 2013, 7:34 PM Mine is 318 475 0283. - Keith Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S? III, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Boyd Smith Date: To: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors ,Howard Kearney Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Phone list Mine is 337-438-9198. ? Boyd W. Smith Elections From: James Madison To: Howard Kearney Cc: 'Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors' Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 7:43 AM Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Phone list If anyone has a list, with cell phone numbers, of the SCC, PEC? officers, and such that would be greatly appreciated. James Madison Vice-Chairman State Central Committee Libertarian Party of Louisiana Cell (985) 640-0718 Quoting Howard Kearney : > Here is a phone list report. It is sorted in Last, First, Middle names > order.? I currently do not have any information as to who is serving and > where in the Libertarian party. > > Note this is just the registered Libertarians as of April 2013, this is not > a list of the LPL (aka dues paid up members). Once Caleb settles things that > is my next step to bring those two lists into one. > > > --------------------------- > Howard Kearney > Membership > > _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From membership at lplouisiana.org Mon May 13 06:58:19 2013 From: membership at lplouisiana.org (Howard Kearney) Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 06:58:19 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] SCC Phone List todate Message-ID: <000d01ce4fd1$2977f690$7c67e3b0$@org> This is the phone list to date, based on the emails just received. I will compile/correct these as I receive these. Wendy Adams, Executive Director, 504-654-7627 State Central Committee: Scott Lewis, SCC Chair, PHONE??? James Madison, SCC Vice Chair, 985-640-0718(cell) Caleb Trotter, SCC Treasurer, 504-810-9787 Jennifer 'Hap' Werther, SCC Secretary, PHONE??? Boyd W. Smith, SCC Elections Officer, 337-438-9198 T. Lee Horn, III, Economic Development Officer, PHONE??? Keith Thompson, SCC Communications / Media Officer, 318 475 0283 Howard Kearney, SCC Membership Officer, 985-630-6388(cell), 985-674-0480(home) SCC Parish Representatives: Frank Griffin, Lafayette Parish Rep, 337-344-2916 Daniel Hayes, Jefferson Parish Rep, PHONE??? Jason Bourgeois, Lafourche Parish Rep, PHONE??? Alberto Salgado, Orleans Parish Rep, PHONE??? Nick Accardo, Saint Mary Parish Rep, PHONE??? Patrick Bloodworth, Saint Tammany Parish Rep, 985-249-4933 David Mounts, Terrebone Parish Rep, 985-209-1146(cell) --------------------------- Howard Kearney Membership -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chairman at lplouisiana.org Mon May 13 08:43:59 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (chairman at lplouisiana.org) Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 08:43:59 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] SCC Phone List todate In-Reply-To: <000d01ce4fd1$2977f690$7c67e3b0$@org> References: <000d01ce4fd1$2977f690$7c67e3b0$@org> Message-ID: Scott A. Lewis, III - "A Paladin for the People" Chairman, 225-284-7148 On 2013-05-13 06:58, Howard Kearney wrote: > SCC Phone List todate > > This is the phone list to date, based on the emails just received. I > will compile/correct these as I receive these. > > Wendy Adams, Executive Director, 504-654-7627 > > State Central Committee: > > Scott Lewis, SCC Chair, PHONE??? > > James Madison, SCC Vice Chair, 985-640-0718(cell) > > Caleb Trotter, SCC Treasurer, 504-810-9787 > > Jennifer 'Hap' Werther, SCC Secretary, PHONE??? > > Boyd W. Smith, SCC Elections Officer, 337-438-9198 > > T. Lee Horn, III, Economic Development Officer, PHONE??? > > Keith Thompson, SCC Communications / Media Officer, 318 475 0283 > > Howard Kearney, SCC Membership Officer, 985-630-6388(cell), > 985-674-0480(home) > > SCC Parish Representatives: > > Frank Griffin, Lafayette Parish Rep, 337-344-2916 > > Daniel Hayes, Jefferson Parish Rep, PHONE??? > > Jason Bourgeois, Lafourche Parish Rep, PHONE??? > > Alberto Salgado, Orleans Parish Rep, PHONE??? > > Nick Accardo, Saint Mary Parish Rep, PHONE??? > > Patrick Bloodworth, Saint Tammany Parish Rep, 985-249-4933 > > David Mounts, Terrebone Parish Rep, 985-209-1146(cell) > > --------------------------- > > Howard Kearney > > Membership > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org From sccrep at jefferson.lplouisiana.org Mon May 13 08:51:30 2013 From: sccrep at jefferson.lplouisiana.org (Daniel Hayes) Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 08:51:30 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] SCC Phone List todate In-Reply-To: References: <000d01ce4fd1$2977f690$7c67e3b0$@org> Message-ID: Here are the St Mary PEC Numbers: Cody Adams 9854980997 cadams at go-grizzly.com Derek Cart Patterson 9853956892 dcart at aprhouses.com Nick Accardo Franklin 3378285149 drbecky54 at aol.com Andrew Boudreaux Morgan City 5128978045 boudreaux_andrew at yahoo.com Caleb Verrett Morgan City 9855197099 verrc630 at yahoo.com On 2013-05-13 08:43, chairman at lplouisiana.org wrote: > Scott A. Lewis, III - "A Paladin for the People" > Chairman, 225-284-7148 > > On 2013-05-13 06:58, Howard Kearney wrote: >> SCC Phone List todate >> >> This is the phone list to date, based on the emails just received. I >> will compile/correct these as I receive these. >> >> Wendy Adams, Executive Director, 504-654-7627 >> >> State Central Committee: >> >> Scott Lewis, SCC Chair, PHONE??? >> >> James Madison, SCC Vice Chair, 985-640-0718(cell) >> >> Caleb Trotter, SCC Treasurer, 504-810-9787 >> >> Jennifer 'Hap' Werther, SCC Secretary, PHONE??? >> >> Boyd W. Smith, SCC Elections Officer, 337-438-9198 >> >> T. Lee Horn, III, Economic Development Officer, PHONE??? >> >> Keith Thompson, SCC Communications / Media Officer, 318 475 0283 >> >> Howard Kearney, SCC Membership Officer, 985-630-6388(cell), >> 985-674-0480(home) >> >> SCC Parish Representatives: >> >> Frank Griffin, Lafayette Parish Rep, 337-344-2916 >> >> Daniel Hayes, Jefferson Parish Rep, PHONE??? >> >> Jason Bourgeois, Lafourche Parish Rep, PHONE??? >> >> Alberto Salgado, Orleans Parish Rep, PHONE??? >> >> Nick Accardo, Saint Mary Parish Rep, PHONE??? >> >> Patrick Bloodworth, Saint Tammany Parish Rep, 985-249-4933 >> >> David Mounts, Terrebone Parish Rep, 985-209-1146(cell) >> >> --------------------------- >> >> Howard Kearney >> >> Membership >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org From sccrep at jefferson.lplouisiana.org Mon May 13 09:12:04 2013 From: sccrep at jefferson.lplouisiana.org (Daniel Hayes) Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 09:12:04 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] SCC Phone List todate In-Reply-To: References: <000d01ce4fd1$2977f690$7c67e3b0$@org> Message-ID: Jefferson PEC numbers: Joe Molero. Chairman, 504-710-2419 David Abadie, Vice Chairman, 504-722-8281 Jesse Lohse,Secretary, 504-430-1501 Scott Masson, Treasurer, 504-214-5983 Scott Chiavetta. Gubment Liason Officer, 504-615-2274 Darryl Jackson, Campus Liason,504-214-5983 Daniel Hayes,Jefferson Membership Officer, Jefferson Rep 504-258-6176 On 2013-05-13 08:51, Daniel Hayes wrote: > Here are the St Mary PEC Numbers: > > Cody Adams 9854980997 cadams at go-grizzly.com > Derek Cart Patterson 9853956892 dcart at aprhouses.com > Nick Accardo Franklin 3378285149 drbecky54 at aol.com > Andrew Boudreaux Morgan City 5128978045 > boudreaux_andrew at yahoo.com > Caleb Verrett Morgan City 9855197099 verrc630 at yahoo.com > > > > > On 2013-05-13 08:43, chairman at lplouisiana.org wrote: >> Scott A. Lewis, III - "A Paladin for the People" >> Chairman, 225-284-7148 >> >> On 2013-05-13 06:58, Howard Kearney wrote: >>> SCC Phone List todate >>> >>> This is the phone list to date, based on the emails just received. >>> I >>> will compile/correct these as I receive these. >>> >>> Wendy Adams, Executive Director, 504-654-7627 >>> >>> State Central Committee: >>> >>> Scott Lewis, SCC Chair, PHONE??? >>> >>> James Madison, SCC Vice Chair, 985-640-0718(cell) >>> >>> Caleb Trotter, SCC Treasurer, 504-810-9787 >>> >>> Jennifer 'Hap' Werther, SCC Secretary, PHONE??? >>> >>> Boyd W. Smith, SCC Elections Officer, 337-438-9198 >>> >>> T. Lee Horn, III, Economic Development Officer, PHONE??? >>> >>> Keith Thompson, SCC Communications / Media Officer, 318 475 0283 >>> >>> Howard Kearney, SCC Membership Officer, 985-630-6388(cell), >>> 985-674-0480(home) >>> >>> SCC Parish Representatives: >>> >>> Frank Griffin, Lafayette Parish Rep, 337-344-2916 >>> >>> Daniel Hayes, Jefferson Parish Rep, PHONE??? >>> >>> Jason Bourgeois, Lafourche Parish Rep, PHONE??? >>> >>> Alberto Salgado, Orleans Parish Rep, PHONE??? >>> >>> Nick Accardo, Saint Mary Parish Rep, PHONE??? >>> >>> Patrick Bloodworth, Saint Tammany Parish Rep, 985-249-4933 >>> >>> David Mounts, Terrebone Parish Rep, 985-209-1146(cell) >>> >>> --------------------------- >>> >>> Howard Kearney >>> >>> Membership >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SCC mailing list >>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org From membership at lplouisiana.org Mon May 13 10:34:12 2013 From: membership at lplouisiana.org (Howard Kearney) Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 10:34:12 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] SCC Phone List todate In-Reply-To: References: <000d01ce4fd1$2977f690$7c67e3b0$@org> Message-ID: <001701ce4fef$528159f0$f7840dd0$@org> This is the phone list to date(5-13-2013 @ 10:33am), based on the emails just received. I will compile/correct as I receive more. Wendy Adams, Executive Director, 504-654-7627 State Central Committee: Scott Lewis, SCC Chair, 225-284-7148 James Madison, SCC Vice Chair, 985-640-0718(cell) Caleb Trotter, SCC Treasurer, 504-810-9787 Jennifer 'Hap' Werther, SCC Secretary, PHONE??? Boyd W. Smith, SCC Elections Officer, 337-438-9198 T. Lee Horn, III, Economic Development Officer, PHONE??? Keith Thompson, SCC Communications / Media Officer, 318 475 0283 Howard Kearney, SCC Membership Officer, 985-630-6388(cell), 985-674-0480(home) SCC Parish Representatives: Frank Griffin, Lafayette Parish Rep, 337-344-2916 Daniel Hayes, Jefferson Parish Rep, PHONE??? Jason Bourgeois, Lafourche Parish Rep, PHONE??? Alberto Salgado, Orleans Parish Rep, PHONE??? Nick Accardo, Saint Mary Parish Rep, PHONE??? Patrick Bloodworth, Saint Tammany Parish Rep, 985-249-4933 David Mounts, Terrebone Parish Rep, 985-209-1146(cell) Saint Mary PEC: Cody Adams, , 985-498-0997, ,cadams at go-grizzly.com Derek Cart, , 985-395-6892, Patterson, dcart at aprhouses.com Nick Accardo, , 3378285149, Franklin, drbecky54 at aol.com Andrew Boudreaux, , 512-897-8045, Morgan City, boudreaux_andrew at yahoo.com Caleb Verrett, , 985-519-7099, Morgan City, verrc630 at yahoo.com Jefferson PEC: Joe Molero, Chairman, 504-710-2419 David Abadie, Vice Chairman, 504-722-8281 Jesse Lohse, Secretary, 504-430-1501 Scott Masson, Treasurer, 504-214-5983 Scott Chiavetta, Government Liason Officer, 504-615-2274 Darryl Jackson, Campus Liason, 504-214-5983 Daniel Hayes, Jefferson Membership Officer & Jefferson Rep, 504-258-6176 --------------------------- Howard Kearney Membership -----Original Message----- From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Hayes Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 9:12 AM To: scc at lplouisiana.org Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] SCC Phone List todate Jefferson PEC numbers: Joe Molero. Chairman, 504-710-2419 David Abadie, Vice Chairman, 504-722-8281 Jesse Lohse,Secretary, 504-430-1501 Scott Masson, Treasurer, 504-214-5983 Scott Chiavetta. Gubment Liason Officer, 504-615-2274 Darryl Jackson, Campus Liason,504-214-5983 Daniel Hayes,Jefferson Membership Officer, Jefferson Rep 504-258-6176 On 2013-05-13 08:51, Daniel Hayes wrote: > Here are the St Mary PEC Numbers: > > Cody Adams 9854980997 cadams at go-grizzly.com > Derek Cart Patterson 9853956892 dcart at aprhouses.com > Nick Accardo Franklin 3378285149 drbecky54 at aol.com > Andrew Boudreaux Morgan City 5128978045 > boudreaux_andrew at yahoo.com > Caleb Verrett Morgan City 9855197099 verrc630 at yahoo.com > > > > > On 2013-05-13 08:43, chairman at lplouisiana.org wrote: >> Scott A. Lewis, III - "A Paladin for the People" >> Chairman, 225-284-7148 >> >> On 2013-05-13 06:58, Howard Kearney wrote: >>> SCC Phone List todate >>> >>> This is the phone list to date, based on the emails just received. >>> I >>> will compile/correct these as I receive these. >>> >>> Wendy Adams, Executive Director, 504-654-7627 >>> >>> State Central Committee: >>> >>> Scott Lewis, SCC Chair, PHONE??? >>> >>> James Madison, SCC Vice Chair, 985-640-0718(cell) >>> >>> Caleb Trotter, SCC Treasurer, 504-810-9787 >>> >>> Jennifer 'Hap' Werther, SCC Secretary, PHONE??? >>> >>> Boyd W. Smith, SCC Elections Officer, 337-438-9198 >>> >>> T. Lee Horn, III, Economic Development Officer, PHONE??? >>> >>> Keith Thompson, SCC Communications / Media Officer, 318 475 0283 >>> >>> Howard Kearney, SCC Membership Officer, 985-630-6388(cell), >>> 985-674-0480(home) >>> >>> SCC Parish Representatives: >>> >>> Frank Griffin, Lafayette Parish Rep, 337-344-2916 >>> >>> Daniel Hayes, Jefferson Parish Rep, PHONE??? >>> >>> Jason Bourgeois, Lafourche Parish Rep, PHONE??? >>> >>> Alberto Salgado, Orleans Parish Rep, PHONE??? >>> >>> Nick Accardo, Saint Mary Parish Rep, PHONE??? >>> >>> Patrick Bloodworth, Saint Tammany Parish Rep, 985-249-4933 >>> >>> David Mounts, Terrebone Parish Rep, 985-209-1146(cell) >>> >>> --------------------------- >>> >>> Howard Kearney >>> >>> Membership >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SCC mailing list >>> SCC at lplouisiana.org >>> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org From vice-chairman at lplouisiana.org Thu May 16 06:49:39 2013 From: vice-chairman at lplouisiana.org (James Madison) Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 07:49:39 -0400 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] SCC Phone List todate In-Reply-To: <000d01ce4fd1$2977f690$7c67e3b0$@org> References: <000d01ce4fd1$2977f690$7c67e3b0$@org> Message-ID: <20130516074939.115563dneisxvzrn@webmail.lplouisiana.org> How about a comprehensive contact information list, or even Vcards be sent to all SCC members, is that possible? As of today, when I mail something to SCC at LPLouisiana.org nothing get through, or at least it isn't coming through to my vice-chairman email. James Madison Vice-Chairman State Central Committee Libertarian Party of Louisiana Cell (985) 640-0718 Quoting Howard Kearney : > This is the phone list to date, based on the emails just received. I will > compile/correct these as I receive these. > > Wendy Adams, Executive Director, 504-654-7627 > > State Central Committee: > Scott Lewis, SCC Chair, PHONE??? > James Madison, SCC Vice Chair, 985-640-0718(cell) > Caleb Trotter, SCC Treasurer, 504-810-9787 > Jennifer 'Hap' Werther, SCC Secretary, PHONE??? > Boyd W. Smith, SCC Elections Officer, 337-438-9198 > T. Lee Horn, III, Economic Development Officer, PHONE??? > Keith Thompson, SCC Communications / Media Officer, 318 475 0283 > Howard Kearney, SCC Membership Officer, 985-630-6388(cell), > 985-674-0480(home) > > > SCC Parish Representatives: > Frank Griffin, Lafayette Parish Rep, 337-344-2916 > Daniel Hayes, Jefferson Parish Rep, PHONE??? > Jason Bourgeois, Lafourche Parish Rep, PHONE??? > Alberto Salgado, Orleans Parish Rep, PHONE??? > Nick Accardo, Saint Mary Parish Rep, PHONE??? > Patrick Bloodworth, Saint Tammany Parish Rep, 985-249-4933 > David Mounts, Terrebone Parish Rep, 985-209-1146(cell) > > > > --------------------------- > Howard Kearney > Membership > > > From sccrep at jefferson.lplouisiana.org Thu May 16 07:25:52 2013 From: sccrep at jefferson.lplouisiana.org (Daniel Hayes) Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 07:25:52 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] SCC Phone List todate In-Reply-To: <20130516074939.115563dneisxvzrn@webmail.lplouisiana.org> References: <000d01ce4fd1$2977f690$7c67e3b0$@org> <20130516074939.115563dneisxvzrn@webmail.lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <9b5bbddbcf1a5f1df26b7438991c46f0@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> This clunky Email system does at least recognize the person sending in the list and does not send it back to them. On 2013-05-16 06:49, James Madison wrote: > How about a comprehensive contact information list, or even Vcards be > sent to all SCC members, is that possible? > > As of today, when I mail something to SCC at LPLouisiana.org nothing get > through, or at least it isn't coming through to my vice-chairman > email. > > James Madison > Vice-Chairman > State Central Committee > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > Cell (985) 640-0718 > > > Quoting Howard Kearney : > >> This is the phone list to date, based on the emails just received. I >> will >> compile/correct these as I receive these. >> >> Wendy Adams, Executive Director, 504-654-7627 >> >> State Central Committee: >> Scott Lewis, SCC Chair, PHONE??? >> James Madison, SCC Vice Chair, 985-640-0718(cell) >> Caleb Trotter, SCC Treasurer, 504-810-9787 >> Jennifer 'Hap' Werther, SCC Secretary, PHONE??? >> Boyd W. Smith, SCC Elections Officer, 337-438-9198 >> T. Lee Horn, III, Economic Development Officer, PHONE??? >> Keith Thompson, SCC Communications / Media Officer, 318 475 0283 >> Howard Kearney, SCC Membership Officer, 985-630-6388(cell), >> 985-674-0480(home) >> >> >> SCC Parish Representatives: >> Frank Griffin, Lafayette Parish Rep, 337-344-2916 >> Daniel Hayes, Jefferson Parish Rep, PHONE??? >> Jason Bourgeois, Lafourche Parish Rep, PHONE??? >> Alberto Salgado, Orleans Parish Rep, PHONE??? >> Nick Accardo, Saint Mary Parish Rep, PHONE??? >> Patrick Bloodworth, Saint Tammany Parish Rep, 985-249-4933 >> David Mounts, Terrebone Parish Rep, 985-209-1146(cell) >> >> >> >> --------------------------- >> Howard Kearney >> Membership >> >> >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org From membership at lplouisiana.org Thu May 16 07:38:46 2013 From: membership at lplouisiana.org (Howard Kearney) Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 07:38:46 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] SCC Phone List todate In-Reply-To: <20130516074939.115563dneisxvzrn@webmail.lplouisiana.org> References: <000d01ce4fd1$2977f690$7c67e3b0$@org> <20130516074939.115563dneisxvzrn@webmail.lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <000601ce5232$4f821290$ee8637b0$@org> James; I am collecting this information into a comprehensive list. I'm attaching it here. If you save this to your desktop (I'm not sure about how this is done on a MAC) you can then double-click it at anytime and it will bring it up. Currently the phone list is a text file because one of the big problems with all PCs (MACs included) is that they change, constantly. So using vCards will only work if everyone uses the software that processes vCards and will only work until they change the programs to a newer, 'better' version. I wish the PC technology had more standards, but there are very little. My goal is to get the phone list where it is available (and update-able) to all, i.e., on a website somewhere. But I still would like to gather the information. *I am still missing people's information* With respect to 'mail something to SCC at LPLouisiana.org nothing get through', I am surprised. Are you saying you send the email to that address and your vice-chairman email address does not receive it? --------------------------- Howard Kearney Membership -----Original Message----- From: James Madison [mailto:vice-chairman at lplouisiana.org] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 6:50 AM To: Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors; Howard Kearney Cc: 'Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors' Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] SCC Phone List todate How about a comprehensive contact information list, or even Vcards be sent to all SCC members, is that possible? As of today, when I mail something to SCC at LPLouisiana.org nothing get through, or at least it isn't coming through to my vice-chairman email. James Madison Vice-Chairman State Central Committee Libertarian Party of Louisiana Cell (985) 640-0718 Quoting Howard Kearney : > This is the phone list to date, based on the emails just received. I > will compile/correct these as I receive these. > > Wendy Adams, Executive Director, 504-654-7627 > > State Central Committee: > Scott Lewis, SCC Chair, PHONE??? > James Madison, SCC Vice Chair, 985-640-0718(cell) Caleb Trotter, SCC > Treasurer, 504-810-9787 Jennifer 'Hap' Werther, SCC Secretary, > PHONE??? > Boyd W. Smith, SCC Elections Officer, 337-438-9198 T. Lee Horn, III, > Economic Development Officer, PHONE??? > Keith Thompson, SCC Communications / Media Officer, 318 475 0283 > Howard Kearney, SCC Membership Officer, 985-630-6388(cell), > 985-674-0480(home) > > > SCC Parish Representatives: > Frank Griffin, Lafayette Parish Rep, 337-344-2916 Daniel Hayes, > Jefferson Parish Rep, PHONE??? > Jason Bourgeois, Lafourche Parish Rep, PHONE??? > Alberto Salgado, Orleans Parish Rep, PHONE??? > Nick Accardo, Saint Mary Parish Rep, PHONE??? > Patrick Bloodworth, Saint Tammany Parish Rep, 985-249-4933 David > Mounts, Terrebone Parish Rep, 985-209-1146(cell) > > > > --------------------------- > Howard Kearney > Membership > > > -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... 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As of today, when I mail something to SCC at LPLouisiana.org nothing get through, or at least it isn't coming through to my vice-chairman email. James Madison > >> Vice-Chairman State Central Committee Libertarian Party of Louisiana Cell (985) 640-0718 Quoting Howard Kearney : >> >>> This is the phone list to date, based on the emails just received. I will compile/correct these as I receive these. Wendy Adams, Executive Director, 504-654-7627 State Central Committee: Scott Lewis, SCC Chair, PHONE??? James Madison, SCC Vice Chair, 985-640-0718(cell) Caleb Trotter, SCC Treasurer, 504-810-9787 Jennifer 'Hap' Werther, SCC Secretary, PHONE??? Boyd W. Smith, SCC Elections Officer, 337-438-9198 T. Lee Horn, III, Economic Development Officer, PHONE??? Keith Thompson, SCC Communications / Media Officer, 318 475 0283 Howard Kearney, SCC Membership Officer, 985-630-6388(cell), 985-674-0480(home) SCC Parish Representatives: Frank Griffin, Lafayette Parish Rep, 337-344-2916 Daniel Hayes, Jefferson Parish Rep, PHONE??? Jason Bourgeois, Lafourche Parish Rep, PHONE??? Alberto Salgado, Orleans Parish Rep, PHONE??? Nick Accardo, Saint Mary Parish Rep, PHONE??? Patrick Bloodworth, Saint Tammany Parish Rep, 985-249-4933 David Mounts, Terrebone Parish Rep, 985-209-1146(cell) --------------------------- Howard Kearney Membership >> _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] Links: ------ [1] http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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James Madison State Vice Chairman Email: Vice-Chairman at LPLouisiana.org Phone: 985.640.0718 Libertarian Party of Louisiana Platform http://louisianalibertarian.net/issues/platform.php -----Original Message----- From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Hayes Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 7:26 AM To: scc at lplouisiana.org Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] SCC Phone List todate This clunky Email system does at least recognize the person sending in the list and does not send it back to them. On 2013-05-16 06:49, James Madison wrote: > How about a comprehensive contact information list, or even Vcards be > sent to all SCC members, is that possible? > > As of today, when I mail something to SCC at LPLouisiana.org nothing get > through, or at least it isn't coming through to my vice-chairman > email. > > James Madison > Vice-Chairman > State Central Committee > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > Cell (985) 640-0718 > > > Quoting Howard Kearney : > >> This is the phone list to date, based on the emails just received. I >> will compile/correct these as I receive these. >> >> Wendy Adams, Executive Director, 504-654-7627 >> >> State Central Committee: >> Scott Lewis, SCC Chair, PHONE??? >> James Madison, SCC Vice Chair, 985-640-0718(cell) Caleb Trotter, SCC >> Treasurer, 504-810-9787 Jennifer 'Hap' Werther, SCC Secretary, >> PHONE??? >> Boyd W. Smith, SCC Elections Officer, 337-438-9198 T. Lee Horn, III, >> Economic Development Officer, PHONE??? >> Keith Thompson, SCC Communications / Media Officer, 318 475 0283 >> Howard Kearney, SCC Membership Officer, 985-630-6388(cell), >> 985-674-0480(home) >> >> >> SCC Parish Representatives: >> Frank Griffin, Lafayette Parish Rep, 337-344-2916 Daniel Hayes, >> Jefferson Parish Rep, PHONE??? >> Jason Bourgeois, Lafourche Parish Rep, PHONE??? >> Alberto Salgado, Orleans Parish Rep, PHONE??? >> Nick Accardo, Saint Mary Parish Rep, PHONE??? >> Patrick Bloodworth, Saint Tammany Parish Rep, 985-249-4933 David >> Mounts, Terrebone Parish Rep, 985-209-1146(cell) >> >> >> >> --------------------------- >> Howard Kearney >> Membership >> >> >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org From sccrep at jefferson.lplouisiana.org Thu May 16 07:47:42 2013 From: sccrep at jefferson.lplouisiana.org (Daniel Hayes) Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 07:47:42 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] SCC Phone List todate In-Reply-To: <006c01ce5233$1e4485e0$5acd91a0$@lplouisiana.org> References: " <000d01ce4fd1$2977f690$7c67e3b0$@org>" <20130516074939.115563dneisxvzrn@webmail.lplouisiana.org> <9b5bbddbcf1a5f1df26b7438991c46f0@jefferson.lplouisiana.org> <006c01ce5233$1e4485e0$5acd91a0$@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: On 2013-05-16 07:44, James Madison wrote: > So you're saying you ARE getting the SCC addressed emails? > > James Madison > State Vice Chairman > Email: Vice-Chairman at LPLouisiana.org > Phone: 985.640.0718 > > Libertarian Party of Louisiana Platform > http://louisianalibertarian.net/issues/platform.php > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org > [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On > Behalf Of Daniel Hayes > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 7:26 AM > To: scc at lplouisiana.org > Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] SCC Phone List todate > > This clunky Email system does at least recognize the person sending > in the > list and does not send it back to them. > > On 2013-05-16 06:49, James Madison wrote: >> How about a comprehensive contact information list, or even Vcards >> be >> sent to all SCC members, is that possible? >> >> As of today, when I mail something to SCC at LPLouisiana.org nothing >> get >> through, or at least it isn't coming through to my vice-chairman >> email. >> >> James Madison > > >> Vice-Chairman >> State Central Committee >> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >> Cell (985) 640-0718 >> >> >> Quoting Howard Kearney : >> >>> This is the phone list to date, based on the emails just received. >>> I >>> will compile/correct these as I receive these. >>> >>> Wendy Adams, Executive Director, 504-654-7627 Make a new Email entitled TEST and send it out..Howard, keith and myself can respond to it and you know it works. >>> >>> State Central Committee: >>> Scott Lewis, SCC Chair, PHONE??? >>> James Madison, SCC Vice Chair, 985-640-0718(cell) Caleb Trotter, >>> SCC >>> Treasurer, 504-810-9787 Jennifer 'Hap' Werther, SCC Secretary, >>> PHONE??? >>> Boyd W. Smith, SCC Elections Officer, 337-438-9198 T. Lee Horn, >>> III, >>> Economic Development Officer, PHONE??? >>> Keith Thompson, SCC Communications / Media Officer, 318 475 0283 >>> Howard Kearney, SCC Membership Officer, 985-630-6388(cell), >>> 985-674-0480(home) >>> >>> >>> SCC Parish Representatives: >>> Frank Griffin, Lafayette Parish Rep, 337-344-2916 Daniel Hayes, >>> Jefferson Parish Rep, PHONE??? >>> Jason Bourgeois, Lafourche Parish Rep, PHONE??? >>> Alberto Salgado, Orleans Parish Rep, PHONE??? >>> Nick Accardo, Saint Mary Parish Rep, PHONE??? >>> Patrick Bloodworth, Saint Tammany Parish Rep, 985-249-4933 David >>> Mounts, Terrebone Parish Rep, 985-209-1146(cell) >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------- >>> Howard Kearney >>> Membership >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org From secretary at lplouisiana.org Thu May 16 11:59:56 2013 From: secretary at lplouisiana.org (secretary at lplouisiana.org) Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 11:59:56 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] SCC Phone List todate In-Reply-To: <20130516074939.115563dneisxvzrn@webmail.lplouisiana.org> References: <000d01ce4fd1$2977f690$7c67e3b0$@org> <20130516074939.115563dneisxvzrn@webmail.lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: On 2013-05-16 06:49, James Madison wrote: > How about a comprehensive contact information list, or even Vcards be > sent to all SCC members, is that possible? > > As of today, when I mail something to SCC at LPLouisiana.org nothing get > through, or at least it isn't coming through to my vice-chairman > email. > > James Madison > Vice-Chairman > State Central Committee > Libertarian Party of Louisiana > Cell (985) 640-0718 > > > Quoting Howard Kearney : > >> This is the phone list to date, based on the emails just received. I >> will >> compile/correct these as I receive these. >> >> Wendy Adams, Executive Director, 504-654-7627 >> >> State Central Committee: >> Scott Lewis, SCC Chair, 255-284-7148 >> James Madison, SCC Vice Chair, 985-640-0718(cell) >> Caleb Trotter, SCC Treasurer, 504-810-9787 >> Jennifer 'Hap' Werther, SCC Secretary, 985-327-9995 >> Boyd W. Smith, SCC Elections Officer, 337-438-9198 >> T. Lee Horn, III, Economic Development Officer, PHONE??? >> Keith Thompson, SCC Communications / Media Officer, 318 475 0283 >> Howard Kearney, SCC Membership Officer, 985-630-6388(cell), >> 985-674-0480(home) >> >> >> SCC Parish Representatives: >> Frank Griffin, Lafayette Parish Rep, 337-344-2916 >> Daniel Hayes, Jefferson Parish Rep, PHONE??? >> Jason Bourgeois, Lafourche Parish Rep, PHONE??? >> Alberto Salgado, Orleans Parish Rep, PHONE??? >> Nick Accardo, Saint Mary Parish Rep, PHONE??? >> Patrick Bloodworth, Saint Tammany Parish Rep, 985-249-4933 >> David Mounts, Terrebone Parish Rep, 985-209-1146(cell) >> >> >> >> --------------------------- >> Howard Kearney >> Membership >> >> >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org From treasurer at lplouisiana.org Thu May 16 14:17:49 2013 From: treasurer at lplouisiana.org (Caleb Trotter) Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 14:17:49 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Current State of Finances Message-ID: The finances as of today, May 16, 2013, are as follows: Current balance: $3,586.54 Recurring Monthly income: $941.70 before transaction fees, $899.30 after fees Recurring Annual income: $4,025 before fees, $3843.64 after fees, with $2554.57 expected to be collected in the 4th quarter. Recurring Expenses: 1) I have been able to eliminate the monthly bank fees 2) The current P.O. Box in Greenwood is paid through October 3) I have been told that the website, hosting, and email fees were paid upfront for a number of years and am trying to get more specifics. In summary, currently, there are now no required monthly expenses we are responsible for to my knowledge. The last bank statement through April 30, 2013, is attached. That is what I've been able to decipher so far. Let me know if anything is unclear. -- Caleb Trotter Treasurer, Libertarian Party of Louisiana State Central Committee 504-810-9787 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Lewis III (paladinforthepeople at gmail.com); Wendy Adams (Wendyaadams at gmail.com); Daniel Hayes (Lordgreystoke422 at aol.com) Subject: Monthly Updates and Teleconferences Dear SCC Committee Chairpersons Just as any association, we, the LPL SCC, will benefit greatly by continually performing self-examinations regarding all operational functions, and adopting best practices when gaps are identified. Along that line of thought, I've done some self-analysis regarding my own responsibilities and put together a communications protocol, based on the "By-laws" and "Special Rules of Order." that I've included for your reading below, that I truly believe will improve our internal communications, and at the same time satisfy the Committee reporting needs. By-laws of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana ARTICLE 9: SUPPORTING COMMITTEES 6. There is hereby created a Strategic Planning Subcommittee. It is the responsibility of this committee to prepare Action Plans with assigned responsibilities and firm dates of action and completion designed to carry out the Purposes of the Party as outlined in Article 4 of these By-Laws. They shall be composed of: a. The Party Vice-Chairman, who shall serve as chairman of this subcommittee and preside at all of its meetings; and b. The At Large State Central Committee Members who serve as Chairmen of the various other Supporting Committees. Special Rules of Order of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana RULE 7: STATE CENTRAL COMMITTEE 7. Reports from State Central Committee members shall be submitted in advance of the meeting as the chair of the meeting shall so request. What I'm proposing is that we combine the monthly Committee Chairperson reporting needs with the monthly SPS (Strategic Planning Subcommittee) telephone conference meetings. With Committee Chairpersons geographically spread out across our great State, I believe this monthly vehicle of exchange would more effectively and accurately facilitate the dissemination of SCC business communications. Prior to, on the Monday before, the monthly SPS conference call, each of the respective At Large Chairpersons of every SCC Committee (Communications Officer, Finance Officer, Membership Officer, Elections Officer, Economic Development Officer) would email a brief written update of their individual Committees activities to the Vice Chairman, who will in turn combine into a monthly communications report and deliver, prior to the SPS meeting, to all SCC Officers, Parish Representatives, and At Large Committee members. To simplify reporting, and create uniformity in format, I'm suggesting we utilize the format provided below, although I'm not opposed to anyone offering something better. Date: Committee Name: Chairperson Name: Committee Members Names: Account of Developments: Accomplishments Based on Specific Goals and Plans from Last Month: Wins - Opportunities - Loses - Specific Goals for Coming Month: Specific Plans to Achieve Those Stated Goals: The purpose of this initiative is to improve SCC communications and create a synergy of Committees, and stir up activity among our State. I'm personally hopeful that each of the LPL Committee Officers, and LPL SCC Executive Officers, along with our Executive Director, will make an unwavering commitment to being present for the monthly SPS meeting currently being hosted for our benefit, and to sending in their respective Committee updates. The next scheduled teleconference meeting is on Wednesday, May 29th, 2013 and starts at 7:00 PM, if you haven't received an invitation with all the call details let me know and I'll resend it to you, otherwise you will find the call details for the next two months listed below. ******************************************************************* Subject: Libertarian Party of Louisiana Strategic Planning Meeting Comments/Agenda: Invited are all State Central Committee Chairs, their respective committee members, and all PEC Committee Chairs, and their members. Date: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 Start Time: 07:00 PM Central Daylight Time End Time: 10:55 PM Central Daylight Time Dial-in Number: 1-857-232-0300 (East Coast) Participant Access Code: 4113171 ******************************************************************** Subject: Libertarian Party of Louisiana Strategic Planning Meeting Comments/Agenda: Invited are all State Central Committee Chairs, their respective committee members, and all PEC Committee Chairs, and their members. Date: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 Start Time: 07:00 PM Central Daylight Time End Time: 10:55 PM Central Daylight Time Dial-in Number: 1-857-232-0300 (East Coast) Participant Access Code: 4113171 I'm looking forward to seeing the first monthly updates/reports from all our Committees, and hearing from each of you on our next call. The all the talk about 2nd Amendment rights, and so on, there's lots of low hanging fruit for the LPL to recruit, and the many possibilities and opportunities we have in front of us are invigorating. Your brother in liberty, James Madison State Vice Chairman Email: Vice-Chairman at LPLouisiana.org Phone: 985.640.0718 Libertarian Party of Louisiana Platform http://louisianalibertarian.net/issues/platform.php -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 8297 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On 2013-05-16 14:17, Caleb Trotter wrote: > The finances as of today, May 16, 2013, are as follows: > > Current balance: $3,586.54 > Recurring Monthly income: $941.70 before transaction fees, $899.30 > after fees > Recurring Annual income: $4,025 before fees, $3843.64 after fees, > with $2554.57 expected to be collected in the 4th quarter. > > Recurring Expenses: 1) I have been able to eliminate the monthly bank > fees 2) The current P.O. Box in Greenwood is paid through October 3) > I > have been told that the website, hosting, and email fees were paid > upfront for a number of years and am trying to get more specifics. In > summary, currently, there are now no required monthly expenses we are > responsible for to my knowledge. > > The last bank statement through April 30, 2013, is attached. > > That is what I've been able to decipher so far. Let me know if > anything is unclear. > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org From treasurer at lplouisiana.org Fri May 17 12:40:53 2013 From: treasurer at lplouisiana.org (Caleb Trotter) Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 12:40:53 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Current State of Finances In-Reply-To: <1d7191bac507d44cc7a55daa40df19c0@lplouisiana.org> References: <1d7191bac507d44cc7a55daa40df19c0@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: Actually, do me a favor and don't change anything on your recurring payment yet. I've been wondering what happens when a card expires, and if we can use you to see what happens, that will be helpful. I imagine you or I should get a notice to update the info but I won't know until it happens, so it'll be better if we have an internal guinea pig instead of a confused donor. Is that ok with you? I've been told the hosting and email has been paid upfront for a while, but I'm waiting on specifics. On 2013-05-16 20:14, secretary at lplouisiana.org wrote: > Wow, sounds good. We need more to keep more monthly donations coming. > Are you dealing with those payments? I think the card I was using > expired last month. I might have to start another recurring payment. > Do we pay monthly for web hosting for the LPL website and this email > service? > > > > On 2013-05-16 14:17, Caleb Trotter wrote: >> The finances as of today, May 16, 2013, are as follows: >> >> Current balance: $3,586.54 >> Recurring Monthly income: $941.70 before transaction fees, $899.30 >> after fees >> Recurring Annual income: $4,025 before fees, $3843.64 after fees, >> with $2554.57 expected to be collected in the 4th quarter. >> >> Recurring Expenses: 1) I have been able to eliminate the monthly >> bank >> fees 2) The current P.O. Box in Greenwood is paid through October 3) >> I >> have been told that the website, hosting, and email fees were paid >> upfront for a number of years and am trying to get more specifics. >> In >> summary, currently, there are now no required monthly expenses we >> are >> responsible for to my knowledge. >> >> The last bank statement through April 30, 2013, is attached. >> >> That is what I've been able to decipher so far. Let me know if >> anything is unclear. >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -- Caleb Trotter Treasurer, Libertarian Party of Louisiana State Central Committee 504-810-9787 From treasurer at lplouisiana.org Fri May 17 13:39:54 2013 From: treasurer at lplouisiana.org (Caleb Trotter) Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 13:39:54 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] P.O. Box on Website Message-ID: <7d44da37fc0d9a30a968fa6ab14ce3aa@lplouisiana.org> I think it would be a good idea to remove the Greenwood P.O. Box address from the top of the website. This box, while paid for through October, is only accessible to my knowledge by Reed Ebard. We shouldn't be advertising an address the current SCC doesn't have direct access to. -- Caleb Trotter Treasurer, Libertarian Party of Louisiana State Central Committee 504-810-9787 From chairman at lplouisiana.org Fri May 17 14:44:56 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (chairman at lplouisiana.org) Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 14:44:56 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Monthly Updates and Teleconferences In-Reply-To: <00e901ce5270$993e8830$cbbb9890$@lplouisiana.org> References: <00e901ce5270$993e8830$cbbb9890$@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <20130517144456.70975z3nhhzqsgjc@webmail.lplouisiana.org> You demanded from us to get it right!!! Now it is your opportunity to keep us to the promise that we make to you. In doing so, let us work with each Committee, Parish Executive Committee, SCC Committee, more especially our Vice Chairman, who has step up to the plate and hit a home run, the members and membership has the unique opportunity to move forward like never before in the state. It is imperative of us to facilitate good relationships with the people of Louisiana. They do not know or understand who we are or what we really represent, it is our job (a labor of love) to help them understand why they should support what is in their best interest. You have the ability to set forth a foundation to grow with and have Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. By putting formulas to show how to have less government and more freedom. We are currently seeking candidates for the office of Chairman for our financial Committee, if you know of well qualified candidates please ask them to submit their interest back to the Board. Our chairman of Communications has ask for the PEC's to work with him, I suggest that the PEC's consider having at least one member to become members of that committee and coordinate with the state to help promote our cause. In Liberty, Scott A. lewis, III - "A Paladin for the People" Chairman Quoting James Madison : > Sorry about the email address mess up. > > > > James Madison > > State Vice Chairman > > Email: Vice-Chairman at LPLouisiana.org > > Phone: 985.640.0718 > > > > Libertarian Party of Louisiana Platform > http://louisianalibertarian.net/issues/platform.php > > > > > > > > From: James Madison [mailto:vice-chairman at lplouisiana.org] > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 12:27 PM > To: State Central Committee SCC at Louisiana.org > Cc: Scott A. Lewis III (paladinforthepeople at gmail.com); Wendy Adams > (Wendyaadams at gmail.com); Daniel Hayes (Lordgreystoke422 at aol.com) > Subject: Monthly Updates and Teleconferences > > > > Dear SCC Committee Chairpersons > > > > Just as any association, we, the LPL SCC, will benefit greatly by > continually performing self-examinations regarding all operational > functions, and adopting best practices when gaps are identified. Along that > line of thought, I've done some self-analysis regarding my own > responsibilities and put together a communications protocol, based on the > "By-laws" and "Special Rules of Order." that I've included for your reading > below, that I truly believe will improve our internal communications, and at > the same time satisfy the Committee reporting needs. > > > > By-laws of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > ARTICLE 9: SUPPORTING COMMITTEES > > 6. There is hereby created a Strategic Planning Subcommittee. It is the > responsibility of this committee to prepare Action Plans with assigned > responsibilities and firm dates of action and completion designed to carry > out the Purposes of the Party as outlined in Article 4 of these By-Laws. > They shall be composed of: a. The Party Vice-Chairman, who shall serve as > chairman of this subcommittee and preside at all of its meetings; and b. The > At Large State Central Committee Members who serve as Chairmen of the > various other Supporting Committees. > > > > Special Rules of Order of the Libertarian Party of > > Louisiana > > RULE 7: STATE CENTRAL COMMITTEE > > 7. Reports from State Central Committee members shall be submitted in > advance of the meeting as the chair of the meeting shall so request. > > > > What I'm proposing is that we combine the monthly Committee Chairperson > reporting needs with the monthly SPS (Strategic Planning Subcommittee) > telephone conference meetings. With Committee Chairpersons geographically > spread out across our great State, I believe this monthly vehicle of > exchange would more effectively and accurately facilitate the dissemination > of SCC business communications. > > > > Prior to, on the Monday before, the monthly SPS conference call, each of the > respective At Large Chairpersons of every SCC Committee (Communications > Officer, Finance Officer, Membership Officer, Elections Officer, Economic > Development Officer) would email a brief written update of their individual > Committees activities to the Vice Chairman, who will in turn combine into a > monthly communications report and deliver, prior to the SPS meeting, to all > SCC Officers, Parish Representatives, and At Large Committee members. > > > > To simplify reporting, and create uniformity in format, I'm suggesting we > utilize the format provided below, although I'm not opposed to anyone > offering something better. > > > > Date: > > Committee Name: > > Chairperson Name: > > Committee Members Names: > > Account of Developments: > > Accomplishments Based on Specific Goals and Plans from Last Month: > > Wins - > > Opportunities - > > Loses - > > > > Specific Goals for Coming Month: > > Specific Plans to Achieve Those Stated Goals: > > > > The purpose of this initiative is to improve SCC communications and create a > synergy of Committees, and stir up activity among our State. I'm personally > hopeful that each of the LPL Committee Officers, and LPL SCC Executive > Officers, along with our Executive Director, will make an unwavering > commitment to being present for the monthly SPS meeting currently being > hosted for our benefit, and to sending in their respective Committee > updates. > > > > The next scheduled teleconference meeting is on Wednesday, May 29th, 2013 > and starts at 7:00 PM, if you haven't received an invitation with all the > call details let me know and I'll resend it to you, otherwise you will find > the call details for the next two months listed below. > > > > ******************************************************************* > > > > > Subject: > > Libertarian Party of Louisiana Strategic Planning Meeting > > > Comments/Agenda: > > Invited are all State Central Committee Chairs, their respective committee > members, and all PEC Committee Chairs, and their members. > > > Date: > > Wednesday, May 29, 2013 > > > Start Time: > > 07:00 PM Central Daylight Time > > > End Time: > > 10:55 PM Central Daylight Time > > > Dial-in Number: > > 1-857-232-0300 (East Coast) > > > Participant Access Code: > > 4113171 > > ******************************************************************** > > > > > Subject: > > Libertarian Party of Louisiana Strategic Planning Meeting > > > Comments/Agenda: > > Invited are all State Central Committee Chairs, their respective committee > members, and all PEC Committee Chairs, and their members. > > > Date: > > Wednesday, June 19, 2013 > > > Start Time: > > 07:00 PM Central Daylight Time > > > End Time: > > 10:55 PM Central Daylight Time > > > Dial-in Number: > > 1-857-232-0300 (East Coast) > > > Participant Access Code: > > 4113171 > > I'm looking forward to seeing the first monthly updates/reports from all our > Committees, and hearing from each of you on our next call. The all the talk > about 2nd Amendment rights, and so on, there's lots of low hanging fruit for > the LPL to recruit, and the many possibilities and opportunities we have in > front of us are invigorating. > > > > Your brother in liberty, > > > > > > James Madison > > State Vice Chairman > > Email: Vice-Chairman at LPLouisiana.org > > Phone: 985.640.0718 > > > > Libertarian Party of Louisiana Platform > http://louisianalibertarian.net/issues/platform.php > > > > > > > > From chairman at lplouisiana.org Fri May 17 14:44:56 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (chairman at lplouisiana.org) Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 14:44:56 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Monthly Updates and Teleconferences In-Reply-To: <00e901ce5270$993e8830$cbbb9890$@lplouisiana.org> References: <00e901ce5270$993e8830$cbbb9890$@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <20130517144456.70975z3nhhzqsgjc@webmail.lplouisiana.org> You demanded from us to get it right!!! Now it is your opportunity to keep us to the promise that we make to you. In doing so, let us work with each Committee, Parish Executive Committee, SCC Committee, more especially our Vice Chairman, who has step up to the plate and hit a home run, the members and membership has the unique opportunity to move forward like never before in the state. It is imperative of us to facilitate good relationships with the people of Louisiana. They do not know or understand who we are or what we really represent, it is our job (a labor of love) to help them understand why they should support what is in their best interest. You have the ability to set forth a foundation to grow with and have Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. By putting formulas to show how to have less government and more freedom. We are currently seeking candidates for the office of Chairman for our financial Committee, if you know of well qualified candidates please ask them to submit their interest back to the Board. Our chairman of Communications has ask for the PEC's to work with him, I suggest that the PEC's consider having at least one member to become members of that committee and coordinate with the state to help promote our cause. In Liberty, Scott A. lewis, III - "A Paladin for the People" Chairman Quoting James Madison : > Sorry about the email address mess up. > > > > James Madison > > State Vice Chairman > > Email: Vice-Chairman at LPLouisiana.org > > Phone: 985.640.0718 > > > > Libertarian Party of Louisiana Platform > http://louisianalibertarian.net/issues/platform.php > > > > > > > > From: James Madison [mailto:vice-chairman at lplouisiana.org] > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 12:27 PM > To: State Central Committee SCC at Louisiana.org > Cc: Scott A. Lewis III (paladinforthepeople at gmail.com); Wendy Adams > (Wendyaadams at gmail.com); Daniel Hayes (Lordgreystoke422 at aol.com) > Subject: Monthly Updates and Teleconferences > > > > Dear SCC Committee Chairpersons > > > > Just as any association, we, the LPL SCC, will benefit greatly by > continually performing self-examinations regarding all operational > functions, and adopting best practices when gaps are identified. Along that > line of thought, I've done some self-analysis regarding my own > responsibilities and put together a communications protocol, based on the > "By-laws" and "Special Rules of Order." that I've included for your reading > below, that I truly believe will improve our internal communications, and at > the same time satisfy the Committee reporting needs. > > > > By-laws of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > ARTICLE 9: SUPPORTING COMMITTEES > > 6. There is hereby created a Strategic Planning Subcommittee. It is the > responsibility of this committee to prepare Action Plans with assigned > responsibilities and firm dates of action and completion designed to carry > out the Purposes of the Party as outlined in Article 4 of these By-Laws. > They shall be composed of: a. The Party Vice-Chairman, who shall serve as > chairman of this subcommittee and preside at all of its meetings; and b. The > At Large State Central Committee Members who serve as Chairmen of the > various other Supporting Committees. > > > > Special Rules of Order of the Libertarian Party of > > Louisiana > > RULE 7: STATE CENTRAL COMMITTEE > > 7. Reports from State Central Committee members shall be submitted in > advance of the meeting as the chair of the meeting shall so request. > > > > What I'm proposing is that we combine the monthly Committee Chairperson > reporting needs with the monthly SPS (Strategic Planning Subcommittee) > telephone conference meetings. With Committee Chairpersons geographically > spread out across our great State, I believe this monthly vehicle of > exchange would more effectively and accurately facilitate the dissemination > of SCC business communications. > > > > Prior to, on the Monday before, the monthly SPS conference call, each of the > respective At Large Chairpersons of every SCC Committee (Communications > Officer, Finance Officer, Membership Officer, Elections Officer, Economic > Development Officer) would email a brief written update of their individual > Committees activities to the Vice Chairman, who will in turn combine into a > monthly communications report and deliver, prior to the SPS meeting, to all > SCC Officers, Parish Representatives, and At Large Committee members. > > > > To simplify reporting, and create uniformity in format, I'm suggesting we > utilize the format provided below, although I'm not opposed to anyone > offering something better. > > > > Date: > > Committee Name: > > Chairperson Name: > > Committee Members Names: > > Account of Developments: > > Accomplishments Based on Specific Goals and Plans from Last Month: > > Wins - > > Opportunities - > > Loses - > > > > Specific Goals for Coming Month: > > Specific Plans to Achieve Those Stated Goals: > > > > The purpose of this initiative is to improve SCC communications and create a > synergy of Committees, and stir up activity among our State. I'm personally > hopeful that each of the LPL Committee Officers, and LPL SCC Executive > Officers, along with our Executive Director, will make an unwavering > commitment to being present for the monthly SPS meeting currently being > hosted for our benefit, and to sending in their respective Committee > updates. > > > > The next scheduled teleconference meeting is on Wednesday, May 29th, 2013 > and starts at 7:00 PM, if you haven't received an invitation with all the > call details let me know and I'll resend it to you, otherwise you will find > the call details for the next two months listed below. > > > > ******************************************************************* > > > > > Subject: > > Libertarian Party of Louisiana Strategic Planning Meeting > > > Comments/Agenda: > > Invited are all State Central Committee Chairs, their respective committee > members, and all PEC Committee Chairs, and their members. > > > Date: > > Wednesday, May 29, 2013 > > > Start Time: > > 07:00 PM Central Daylight Time > > > End Time: > > 10:55 PM Central Daylight Time > > > Dial-in Number: > > 1-857-232-0300 (East Coast) > > > Participant Access Code: > > 4113171 > > ******************************************************************** > > > > > Subject: > > Libertarian Party of Louisiana Strategic Planning Meeting > > > Comments/Agenda: > > Invited are all State Central Committee Chairs, their respective committee > members, and all PEC Committee Chairs, and their members. > > > Date: > > Wednesday, June 19, 2013 > > > Start Time: > > 07:00 PM Central Daylight Time > > > End Time: > > 10:55 PM Central Daylight Time > > > Dial-in Number: > > 1-857-232-0300 (East Coast) > > > Participant Access Code: > > 4113171 > > I'm looking forward to seeing the first monthly updates/reports from all our > Committees, and hearing from each of you on our next call. The all the talk > about 2nd Amendment rights, and so on, there's lots of low hanging fruit for > the LPL to recruit, and the many possibilities and opportunities we have in > front of us are invigorating. > > > > Your brother in liberty, > > > > > > James Madison > > State Vice Chairman > > Email: Vice-Chairman at LPLouisiana.org > > Phone: 985.640.0718 > > > > Libertarian Party of Louisiana Platform > http://louisianalibertarian.net/issues/platform.php > > > > > > > > From chairman at lplouisiana.org Fri May 17 14:48:04 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (chairman at lplouisiana.org) Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 14:48:04 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] P.O. Box on Website In-Reply-To: <7d44da37fc0d9a30a968fa6ab14ce3aa@lplouisiana.org> References: <7d44da37fc0d9a30a968fa6ab14ce3aa@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <20130517144804.19351wjqskrr1f1w@webmail.lplouisiana.org> Please make it so, thank you. Quoting Caleb Trotter : > I think it would be a good idea to remove the Greenwood P.O. Box > address from the top of the website. This box, while paid for > through October, is only accessible to my knowledge by Reed Ebard. > We shouldn't be advertising an address the current SCC doesn't have > direct access to. > > -- > Caleb Trotter > Treasurer, > Libertarian Party of Louisiana State Central Committee > 504-810-9787 > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > From chairman at lplouisiana.org Fri May 17 16:20:14 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (chairman at lplouisiana.org) Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 16:20:14 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Monthly Updates and Teleconferences In-Reply-To: <00e901ce5270$993e8830$cbbb9890$@lplouisiana.org> References: <00e901ce5270$993e8830$cbbb9890$@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <20130517162014.27182xxqjmfbgdfy@webmail.lplouisiana.org> Quoting James Madison : > Sorry about the email address mess up. > > > > James Madison > > State Vice Chairman > > Email: Vice-Chairman at LPLouisiana.org > > Phone: 985.640.0718 > > > > Libertarian Party of Louisiana Platform > http://louisianalibertarian.net/issues/platform.php > > > > > > > > From: James Madison [mailto:vice-chairman at lplouisiana.org] > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 12:27 PM > To: State Central Committee SCC at Louisiana.org > Cc: Scott A. Lewis III (paladinforthepeople at gmail.com); Wendy Adams > (Wendyaadams at gmail.com); Daniel Hayes (Lordgreystoke422 at aol.com) > Subject: Monthly Updates and Teleconferences > > > > Dear SCC Committee Chairpersons > > > > Just as any association, we, the LPL SCC, will benefit greatly by > continually performing self-examinations regarding all operational > functions, and adopting best practices when gaps are identified. Along that > line of thought, I've done some self-analysis regarding my own > responsibilities and put together a communications protocol, based on the > "By-laws" and "Special Rules of Order." that I've included for your reading > below, that I truly believe will improve our internal communications, and at > the same time satisfy the Committee reporting needs. > > > > By-laws of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > ARTICLE 9: SUPPORTING COMMITTEES > > 6. There is hereby created a Strategic Planning Subcommittee. It is the > responsibility of this committee to prepare Action Plans with assigned > responsibilities and firm dates of action and completion designed to carry > out the Purposes of the Party as outlined in Article 4 of these By-Laws. > They shall be composed of: a. The Party Vice-Chairman, who shall serve as > chairman of this subcommittee and preside at all of its meetings; and b. The > At Large State Central Committee Members who serve as Chairmen of the > various other Supporting Committees. > > > > Special Rules of Order of the Libertarian Party of > > Louisiana > > RULE 7: STATE CENTRAL COMMITTEE > > 7. Reports from State Central Committee members shall be submitted in > advance of the meeting as the chair of the meeting shall so request. > > > > What I'm proposing is that we combine the monthly Committee Chairperson > reporting needs with the monthly SPS (Strategic Planning Subcommittee) > telephone conference meetings. With Committee Chairpersons geographically > spread out across our great State, I believe this monthly vehicle of > exchange would more effectively and accurately facilitate the dissemination > of SCC business communications. > > > > Prior to, on the Monday before, the monthly SPS conference call, each of the > respective At Large Chairpersons of every SCC Committee (Communications > Officer, Finance Officer, Membership Officer, Elections Officer, Economic > Development Officer) would email a brief written update of their individual > Committees activities to the Vice Chairman, who will in turn combine into a > monthly communications report and deliver, prior to the SPS meeting, to all > SCC Officers, Parish Representatives, and At Large Committee members. > > > > To simplify reporting, and create uniformity in format, I'm suggesting we > utilize the format provided below, although I'm not opposed to anyone > offering something better. > > > > Date: > > Committee Name: > > Chairperson Name: > > Committee Members Names: > > Account of Developments: > > Accomplishments Based on Specific Goals and Plans from Last Month: > > Wins - > > Opportunities - > > Loses - > > > > Specific Goals for Coming Month: > > Specific Plans to Achieve Those Stated Goals: > > > > The purpose of this initiative is to improve SCC communications and create a > synergy of Committees, and stir up activity among our State. I'm personally > hopeful that each of the LPL Committee Officers, and LPL SCC Executive > Officers, along with our Executive Director, will make an unwavering > commitment to being present for the monthly SPS meeting currently being > hosted for our benefit, and to sending in their respective Committee > updates. > > > > The next scheduled teleconference meeting is on Wednesday, May 29th, 2013 > and starts at 7:00 PM, if you haven't received an invitation with all the > call details let me know and I'll resend it to you, otherwise you will find > the call details for the next two months listed below. > > > > ******************************************************************* > > > > > Subject: > > Libertarian Party of Louisiana Strategic Planning Meeting > > > Comments/Agenda: > > Invited are all State Central Committee Chairs, their respective committee > members, and all PEC Committee Chairs, and their members. > > > Date: > > Wednesday, May 29, 2013 > > > Start Time: > > 07:00 PM Central Daylight Time > > > End Time: > > 10:55 PM Central Daylight Time > > > Dial-in Number: > > 1-857-232-0300 (East Coast) > > > Participant Access Code: > > 4113171 > > ******************************************************************** > > > > > Subject: > > Libertarian Party of Louisiana Strategic Planning Meeting > > > Comments/Agenda: > > Invited are all State Central Committee Chairs, their respective committee > members, and all PEC Committee Chairs, and their members. > > > Date: > > Wednesday, June 19, 2013 > > > Start Time: > > 07:00 PM Central Daylight Time > > > End Time: > > 10:55 PM Central Daylight Time > > > Dial-in Number: > > 1-857-232-0300 (East Coast) > > > Participant Access Code: > > 4113171 > > I'm looking forward to seeing the first monthly updates/reports from all our > Committees, and hearing from each of you on our next call. The all the talk > about 2nd Amendment rights, and so on, there's lots of low hanging fruit for > the LPL to recruit, and the many possibilities and opportunities we have in > front of us are invigorating. > > > > Your brother in liberty, > > > > > > James Madison > > State Vice Chairman > > Email: Vice-Chairman at LPLouisiana.org > > Phone: 985.640.0718 > > > > Libertarian Party of Louisiana Platform > http://louisianalibertarian.net/issues/platform.php > > > > > > > Thanks everybody in your efforts to help us (SCC Board) to make the transition to being able to serve in the capacity that will make this the best Party in Louisiana. We have a unique opportunity to grow and proper with your continued support. A special shout out to our Vice Chairman who stepped up to the plate and hit a home run. This has been a task in making this transition with four new position being filled at the same time. Our officers has gone beyond the call of duty to help maintain the integrity of our noble cause. To all much love and appreciation. We are currently seeking a good candidate for Chairman of the Finance Committee, if you know of someone that will accept the role and be as committed to the task as our other committee Chairmen please ask them to submit their qualifications to us as soon as possible. The Strategic Planning Committee needs all responsible Committee Chairs, PEC's and members to give input and meet at least once a month so we may continue to serve you as you have requested. You demanded that we do not falter and move forward with the movement to organize the state and help provide good government, we have answered your call and are ready willing and able. We have give consideration to time, travel and convenience, we find that we may off-set the pains of traveling by having a teleconference with the Vice Chairman to help facilitate and coordinate our activities in a very professional manner. I will recommend to all PEC's that you seek a member to serve with each Committee Chairman of the State Party and help keep open line of communication so that we may be effective in our endeavors. More especially our communications Chair, we need the Parishes to work with our state coordinator to impact local news media, we need you to communicate in various forms, writing, calling and going to various town hall meetings, to make friends, share information and win friends. You are representatives of the Party, your Parish, your City and community and must communicate the best introductions that you are able to achieve. Always be polite courteous and informative. If you do not have an answer to a question refer them to someone that does, do it together so all concerned will have the benefit of knowledge and growth. Please keep in mind that the good people of Louisiana do not know us and what we represent. It is our job (a labor of love) to help them understand why we have their and our best interest for the great state of Louisiana. No one said this would be easy, only that it is worth while to our family, loved ones and our friends. We certainly need funds to operate, "Freedom is not FREE" we know that if we do nothing what ever we have achieved will be taken from us under the present policy and thinking of the government. We should be thinking along the lines of how we may raise funds, win friends, have a good time sharing with folks we know and the new folks that we will be meeting. In Liberty, Scott A. Lewis, III - "A Paladin for the People" Chairman From chairman at lplouisiana.org Fri May 17 16:20:14 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (chairman at lplouisiana.org) Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 16:20:14 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Monthly Updates and Teleconferences In-Reply-To: <00e901ce5270$993e8830$cbbb9890$@lplouisiana.org> References: <00e901ce5270$993e8830$cbbb9890$@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <20130517162014.27182xxqjmfbgdfy@webmail.lplouisiana.org> Quoting James Madison : > Sorry about the email address mess up. > > > > James Madison > > State Vice Chairman > > Email: Vice-Chairman at LPLouisiana.org > > Phone: 985.640.0718 > > > > Libertarian Party of Louisiana Platform > http://louisianalibertarian.net/issues/platform.php > > > > > > > > From: James Madison [mailto:vice-chairman at lplouisiana.org] > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 12:27 PM > To: State Central Committee SCC at Louisiana.org > Cc: Scott A. Lewis III (paladinforthepeople at gmail.com); Wendy Adams > (Wendyaadams at gmail.com); Daniel Hayes (Lordgreystoke422 at aol.com) > Subject: Monthly Updates and Teleconferences > > > > Dear SCC Committee Chairpersons > > > > Just as any association, we, the LPL SCC, will benefit greatly by > continually performing self-examinations regarding all operational > functions, and adopting best practices when gaps are identified. Along that > line of thought, I've done some self-analysis regarding my own > responsibilities and put together a communications protocol, based on the > "By-laws" and "Special Rules of Order." that I've included for your reading > below, that I truly believe will improve our internal communications, and at > the same time satisfy the Committee reporting needs. > > > > By-laws of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana > > ARTICLE 9: SUPPORTING COMMITTEES > > 6. There is hereby created a Strategic Planning Subcommittee. It is the > responsibility of this committee to prepare Action Plans with assigned > responsibilities and firm dates of action and completion designed to carry > out the Purposes of the Party as outlined in Article 4 of these By-Laws. > They shall be composed of: a. The Party Vice-Chairman, who shall serve as > chairman of this subcommittee and preside at all of its meetings; and b. The > At Large State Central Committee Members who serve as Chairmen of the > various other Supporting Committees. > > > > Special Rules of Order of the Libertarian Party of > > Louisiana > > RULE 7: STATE CENTRAL COMMITTEE > > 7. Reports from State Central Committee members shall be submitted in > advance of the meeting as the chair of the meeting shall so request. > > > > What I'm proposing is that we combine the monthly Committee Chairperson > reporting needs with the monthly SPS (Strategic Planning Subcommittee) > telephone conference meetings. With Committee Chairpersons geographically > spread out across our great State, I believe this monthly vehicle of > exchange would more effectively and accurately facilitate the dissemination > of SCC business communications. > > > > Prior to, on the Monday before, the monthly SPS conference call, each of the > respective At Large Chairpersons of every SCC Committee (Communications > Officer, Finance Officer, Membership Officer, Elections Officer, Economic > Development Officer) would email a brief written update of their individual > Committees activities to the Vice Chairman, who will in turn combine into a > monthly communications report and deliver, prior to the SPS meeting, to all > SCC Officers, Parish Representatives, and At Large Committee members. > > > > To simplify reporting, and create uniformity in format, I'm suggesting we > utilize the format provided below, although I'm not opposed to anyone > offering something better. > > > > Date: > > Committee Name: > > Chairperson Name: > > Committee Members Names: > > Account of Developments: > > Accomplishments Based on Specific Goals and Plans from Last Month: > > Wins - > > Opportunities - > > Loses - > > > > Specific Goals for Coming Month: > > Specific Plans to Achieve Those Stated Goals: > > > > The purpose of this initiative is to improve SCC communications and create a > synergy of Committees, and stir up activity among our State. I'm personally > hopeful that each of the LPL Committee Officers, and LPL SCC Executive > Officers, along with our Executive Director, will make an unwavering > commitment to being present for the monthly SPS meeting currently being > hosted for our benefit, and to sending in their respective Committee > updates. > > > > The next scheduled teleconference meeting is on Wednesday, May 29th, 2013 > and starts at 7:00 PM, if you haven't received an invitation with all the > call details let me know and I'll resend it to you, otherwise you will find > the call details for the next two months listed below. > > > > ******************************************************************* > > > > > Subject: > > Libertarian Party of Louisiana Strategic Planning Meeting > > > Comments/Agenda: > > Invited are all State Central Committee Chairs, their respective committee > members, and all PEC Committee Chairs, and their members. > > > Date: > > Wednesday, May 29, 2013 > > > Start Time: > > 07:00 PM Central Daylight Time > > > End Time: > > 10:55 PM Central Daylight Time > > > Dial-in Number: > > 1-857-232-0300 (East Coast) > > > Participant Access Code: > > 4113171 > > ******************************************************************** > > > > > Subject: > > Libertarian Party of Louisiana Strategic Planning Meeting > > > Comments/Agenda: > > Invited are all State Central Committee Chairs, their respective committee > members, and all PEC Committee Chairs, and their members. > > > Date: > > Wednesday, June 19, 2013 > > > Start Time: > > 07:00 PM Central Daylight Time > > > End Time: > > 10:55 PM Central Daylight Time > > > Dial-in Number: > > 1-857-232-0300 (East Coast) > > > Participant Access Code: > > 4113171 > > I'm looking forward to seeing the first monthly updates/reports from all our > Committees, and hearing from each of you on our next call. The all the talk > about 2nd Amendment rights, and so on, there's lots of low hanging fruit for > the LPL to recruit, and the many possibilities and opportunities we have in > front of us are invigorating. > > > > Your brother in liberty, > > > > > > James Madison > > State Vice Chairman > > Email: Vice-Chairman at LPLouisiana.org > > Phone: 985.640.0718 > > > > Libertarian Party of Louisiana Platform > http://louisianalibertarian.net/issues/platform.php > > > > > > > Thanks everybody in your efforts to help us (SCC Board) to make the transition to being able to serve in the capacity that will make this the best Party in Louisiana. We have a unique opportunity to grow and proper with your continued support. A special shout out to our Vice Chairman who stepped up to the plate and hit a home run. This has been a task in making this transition with four new position being filled at the same time. Our officers has gone beyond the call of duty to help maintain the integrity of our noble cause. To all much love and appreciation. We are currently seeking a good candidate for Chairman of the Finance Committee, if you know of someone that will accept the role and be as committed to the task as our other committee Chairmen please ask them to submit their qualifications to us as soon as possible. The Strategic Planning Committee needs all responsible Committee Chairs, PEC's and members to give input and meet at least once a month so we may continue to serve you as you have requested. You demanded that we do not falter and move forward with the movement to organize the state and help provide good government, we have answered your call and are ready willing and able. We have give consideration to time, travel and convenience, we find that we may off-set the pains of traveling by having a teleconference with the Vice Chairman to help facilitate and coordinate our activities in a very professional manner. I will recommend to all PEC's that you seek a member to serve with each Committee Chairman of the State Party and help keep open line of communication so that we may be effective in our endeavors. More especially our communications Chair, we need the Parishes to work with our state coordinator to impact local news media, we need you to communicate in various forms, writing, calling and going to various town hall meetings, to make friends, share information and win friends. You are representatives of the Party, your Parish, your City and community and must communicate the best introductions that you are able to achieve. Always be polite courteous and informative. If you do not have an answer to a question refer them to someone that does, do it together so all concerned will have the benefit of knowledge and growth. Please keep in mind that the good people of Louisiana do not know us and what we represent. It is our job (a labor of love) to help them understand why we have their and our best interest for the great state of Louisiana. No one said this would be easy, only that it is worth while to our family, loved ones and our friends. We certainly need funds to operate, "Freedom is not FREE" we know that if we do nothing what ever we have achieved will be taken from us under the present policy and thinking of the government. We should be thinking along the lines of how we may raise funds, win friends, have a good time sharing with folks we know and the new folks that we will be meeting. In Liberty, Scott A. Lewis, III - "A Paladin for the People" Chairman From media at lplouisiana.org Sun May 19 20:07:39 2013 From: media at lplouisiana.org (Keith Thompson) Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 20:07:39 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] P.O. Box on Website In-Reply-To: <7d44da37fc0d9a30a968fa6ab14ce3aa@lplouisiana.org> References: <7d44da37fc0d9a30a968fa6ab14ce3aa@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <24d5a5f4702bbfcebeaa53d4254c60bd@lplouisiana.org> Thanks for pointing that out! It should be nixed from the website now. Thanks, Keith On 2013-05-17 13:39, Caleb Trotter wrote: > I think it would be a good idea to remove the Greenwood P.O. Box > address from the top of the website. This box, while paid for through > October, is only accessible to my knowledge by Reed Ebard. We shouldn't > be advertising an address the current SCC doesn't have direct access to. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chairman at lplouisiana.org Mon May 20 11:37:43 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (chairman at lplouisiana.org) Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 11:37:43 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] P.O. Box on Website In-Reply-To: <24d5a5f4702bbfcebeaa53d4254c60bd@lplouisiana.org> References: <7d44da37fc0d9a30a968fa6ab14ce3aa@lplouisiana.org> <24d5a5f4702bbfcebeaa53d4254c60bd@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <8fd663d525c4cc5002646c36c9c438c2@lplouisiana.org> On 2013-05-19 20:07, Keith Thompson wrote: > Thanks for pointing that out! It should be nixed from the website now. > > Thanks, > > Keith > > On 2013-05-17 13:39, Caleb Trotter wrote: > >> I think it would be a good idea to remove the Greenwood P.O. Box >> address from the top of the website. This box, while paid for through >> October, is only accessible to my knowledge by Reed Ebard. We >> shouldn't >> be advertising an address the current SCC doesn't have direct access >> to. Agreed, is there a fee attached to making the changes? Does the board have to act in any capacity to make this change? Without cost, I feel that it should be incorporated. With cost we should vote on it and make the necessary minutes. Thank you for the observation. From media at lplouisiana.org Mon May 20 16:19:36 2013 From: media at lplouisiana.org (Keith Thompson) Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 16:19:36 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] P.O. Box on Website In-Reply-To: <8fd663d525c4cc5002646c36c9c438c2@lplouisiana.org> References: <7d44da37fc0d9a30a968fa6ab14ce3aa@lplouisiana.org> <24d5a5f4702bbfcebeaa53d4254c60bd@lplouisiana.org> <8fd663d525c4cc5002646c36c9c438c2@lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <39cc7701ea761d235dd200a518e74195@lplouisiana.org> No, sir - there's no cost incurred for making the changes. Website changes are my responsibility. I'd like to change a good bit of things on it when work and LPL duties permit. If there are other changes that are pending, please let me know. Thanks, - Keith Scott Lewis: Agreed, is there a fee attached to making the changes? Does the board have to act in any capacity to make this change? Without cost, I feel that it should be incorporated. With cost we should vote on it and make the necessary minutes. Thank you for the observation. On 2013-05-20 11:37, chairman at lplouisiana.org wrote: > On 2013-05-19 20:07, Keith Thompson wrote: > >> Thanks for pointing that out! It should be nixed from the website now. Thanks, Keith On 2013-05-17 13:39, Caleb Trotter wrote: >> >>> I think it would be a good idea to remove the Greenwood P.O. Box address from the top of the website. This box, while paid for through October, is only accessible to my knowledge by Reed Ebard. We shouldn't be advertising an address the current SCC doesn't have direct access to. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sccrep at lafourche.lplouisiana.org Mon May 20 16:23:55 2013 From: sccrep at lafourche.lplouisiana.org (sccrep at lafourche.lplouisiana.org) Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 16:23:55 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] SCC Phone List todate In-Reply-To: References: <000d01ce4fd1$2977f690$7c67e3b0$@org> <20130516074939.115563dneisxvzrn@webmail.lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: I'm not sure who's managing the lists. These email addresses confuse me a little. My information: Jason Bourgeois, Lafourche Parish Rep, 985-228-3863 Also, we're having our monthly meeting tonight for Lafourche Parish. I've printed the email sent out by James so that we can cover the relevant topics and have applicable updates to give at the next meeting. Have a great day! Jason Bourgeois Lafourche Parish On 2013-05-16 11:59, secretary at lplouisiana.org wrote: > On 2013-05-16 06:49, James Madison wrote: >> How about a comprehensive contact information list, or even Vcards be >> sent to all SCC members, is that possible? >> >> As of today, when I mail something to SCC at LPLouisiana.org nothing get >> through, or at least it isn't coming through to my vice-chairman >> email. >> >> James Madison >> Vice-Chairman >> State Central Committee >> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >> Cell (985) 640-0718 >> >> >> Quoting Howard Kearney : >> >>> This is the phone list to date, based on the emails just received. I >>> will >>> compile/correct these as I receive these. >>> >>> Wendy Adams, Executive Director, 504-654-7627 >>> >>> State Central Committee: >>> Scott Lewis, SCC Chair, 255-284-7148 >>> James Madison, SCC Vice Chair, 985-640-0718(cell) >>> Caleb Trotter, SCC Treasurer, 504-810-9787 >>> Jennifer 'Hap' Werther, SCC Secretary, 985-327-9995 >>> Boyd W. Smith, SCC Elections Officer, 337-438-9198 >>> T. Lee Horn, III, Economic Development Officer, PHONE??? >>> Keith Thompson, SCC Communications / Media Officer, 318 475 0283 >>> Howard Kearney, SCC Membership Officer, 985-630-6388(cell), >>> 985-674-0480(home) >>> >>> >>> SCC Parish Representatives: >>> Frank Griffin, Lafayette Parish Rep, 337-344-2916 >>> Daniel Hayes, Jefferson Parish Rep, PHONE??? >>> Jason Bourgeois, Lafourche Parish Rep, PHONE??? >>> Alberto Salgado, Orleans Parish Rep, PHONE??? >>> Nick Accardo, Saint Mary Parish Rep, PHONE??? >>> Patrick Bloodworth, Saint Tammany Parish Rep, 985-249-4933 >>> David Mounts, Terrebone Parish Rep, 985-209-1146(cell) >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------- >>> Howard Kearney >>> Membership >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org From membership at lplouisiana.org Mon May 20 17:55:55 2013 From: membership at lplouisiana.org (Howard Kearney) Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 17:55:55 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] SCC Phone List todate In-Reply-To: References: <000d01ce4fd1$2977f690$7c67e3b0$@org> <20130516074939.115563dneisxvzrn@webmail.lplouisiana.org> Message-ID: <000f01ce55ad$30a5f9d0$91f1ed70$@org> Jason; I am maintaining this list at the moment. Attached is the updated list with your information also updated. Thanks! There are still some unknown information on the phonelist. --------------------------- Howard Kearney Membership -----Original Message----- From: SCC [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of sccrep at lafourche.lplouisiana.org Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 4:24 PM To: scc at lplouisiana.org Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] SCC Phone List todate I'm not sure who's managing the lists. These email addresses confuse me a little. My information: Jason Bourgeois, Lafourche Parish Rep, 985-228-3863 Also, we're having our monthly meeting tonight for Lafourche Parish. I've printed the email sent out by James so that we can cover the relevant topics and have applicable updates to give at the next meeting. Have a great day! Jason Bourgeois Lafourche Parish On 2013-05-16 11:59, secretary at lplouisiana.org wrote: > On 2013-05-16 06:49, James Madison wrote: >> How about a comprehensive contact information list, or even Vcards be >> sent to all SCC members, is that possible? >> >> As of today, when I mail something to SCC at LPLouisiana.org nothing get >> through, or at least it isn't coming through to my vice-chairman >> email. >> >> James Madison >> Vice-Chairman >> State Central Committee >> Libertarian Party of Louisiana >> Cell (985) 640-0718 >> >> >> Quoting Howard Kearney : >> >>> This is the phone list to date, based on the emails just received. I >>> will compile/correct these as I receive these. >>> >>> Wendy Adams, Executive Director, 504-654-7627 >>> >>> State Central Committee: >>> Scott Lewis, SCC Chair, 255-284-7148 James Madison, SCC Vice Chair, >>> 985-640-0718(cell) Caleb Trotter, SCC Treasurer, 504-810-9787 >>> Jennifer 'Hap' Werther, SCC Secretary, 985-327-9995 Boyd W. Smith, >>> SCC Elections Officer, 337-438-9198 T. Lee Horn, III, Economic >>> Development Officer, PHONE??? >>> Keith Thompson, SCC Communications / Media Officer, 318 475 0283 >>> Howard Kearney, SCC Membership Officer, 985-630-6388(cell), >>> 985-674-0480(home) >>> >>> >>> SCC Parish Representatives: >>> Frank Griffin, Lafayette Parish Rep, 337-344-2916 Daniel Hayes, >>> Jefferson Parish Rep, PHONE??? >>> Jason Bourgeois, Lafourche Parish Rep, PHONE??? >>> Alberto Salgado, Orleans Parish Rep, PHONE??? >>> Nick Accardo, Saint Mary Parish Rep, PHONE??? >>> Patrick Bloodworth, Saint Tammany Parish Rep, 985-249-4933 David >>> Mounts, Terrebone Parish Rep, 985-209-1146(cell) >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------- >>> Howard Kearney >>> Membership >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SCC mailing list >> SCC at lplouisiana.org >> http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org _______________________________________________ SCC mailing list SCC at lplouisiana.org http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: PhoneList.txt URL: From chairman at lplouisiana.org Fri May 24 15:15:01 2013 From: chairman at lplouisiana.org (chairman at lplouisiana.org) Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 15:15:01 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] The National Chairman speaks Message-ID: <2bac417b1db48ac3eac5a99f841bf118@lplouisiana.org> http://youtu.be/Ka4-foSFee8 when you get an opportunity, please view, thank you. ***Note: Am still having problems with communications with the members and press. Would like to hear or read ways to resolve these issues. We must have a tracking mechanism put in place. Am open to all suggestions. From vice-chairman at lplouisiana.org Tue May 28 11:59:26 2013 From: vice-chairman at lplouisiana.org (James Madison) Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 11:59:26 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Monthly Updates and Teleconferences Message-ID: Just a reminder, we have a call tomorrow at 7:00 PM, and reports should have already been sent in. Please RSVP so we know who is going to be on the call. James Madison State Vice Chairman Email: Vice-Chairman at LPLouisiana.org Phone: 985.640.0718 Libertarian Party of Louisiana Platform http://louisianalibertarian.net/issues/platform.php From: James Madison [mailto:vice-chairman at lplouisiana.org] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 3:05 PM To: LPL State Central Committee (SCC at LPLouisiana.org) Cc: Scott A. Lewis III (paladinforthepeople at gmail.com); Wendy Adams (Wendyaadams at gmail.com); Daniel Hayes (Lordgreystoke422 at aol.com) Subject: RE: Monthly Updates and Teleconferences Sorry about the email address mess up. James Madison State Vice Chairman Email: Vice-Chairman at LPLouisiana.org Phone: 985.640.0718 Libertarian Party of Louisiana Platform http://louisianalibertarian.net/issues/platform.php From: James Madison [mailto:vice-chairman at lplouisiana.org] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 12:27 PM To: State Central Committee SCC at Louisiana.org Cc: Scott A. Lewis III (paladinforthepeople at gmail.com); Wendy Adams (Wendyaadams at gmail.com); Daniel Hayes (Lordgreystoke422 at aol.com) Subject: Monthly Updates and Teleconferences Dear SCC Committee Chairpersons Just as any association, we, the LPL SCC, will benefit greatly by continually performing self-examinations regarding all operational functions, and adopting best practices when gaps are identified. Along that line of thought, I've done some self-analysis regarding my own responsibilities and put together a communications protocol, based on the "By-laws" and "Special Rules of Order." that I've included for your reading below, that I truly believe will improve our internal communications, and at the same time satisfy the Committee reporting needs. By-laws of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana ARTICLE 9: SUPPORTING COMMITTEES 6. There is hereby created a Strategic Planning Subcommittee. It is the responsibility of this committee to prepare Action Plans with assigned responsibilities and firm dates of action and completion designed to carry out the Purposes of the Party as outlined in Article 4 of these By-Laws. They shall be composed of: a. The Party Vice-Chairman, who shall serve as chairman of this subcommittee and preside at all of its meetings; and b. The At Large State Central Committee Members who serve as Chairmen of the various other Supporting Committees. Special Rules of Order of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana RULE 7: STATE CENTRAL COMMITTEE 7. Reports from State Central Committee members shall be submitted in advance of the meeting as the chair of the meeting shall so request. What I'm proposing is that we combine the monthly Committee Chairperson reporting needs with the monthly SPS (Strategic Planning Subcommittee) telephone conference meetings. With Committee Chairpersons geographically spread out across our great State, I believe this monthly vehicle of exchange would more effectively and accurately facilitate the dissemination of SCC business communications. Prior to, on the Monday before, the monthly SPS conference call, each of the respective At Large Chairpersons of every SCC Committee (Communications Officer, Finance Officer, Membership Officer, Elections Officer, Economic Development Officer) would email a brief written update of their individual Committees activities to the Vice Chairman, who will in turn combine into a monthly communications report and deliver, prior to the SPS meeting, to all SCC Officers, Parish Representatives, and At Large Committee members. To simplify reporting, and create uniformity in format, I'm suggesting we utilize the format provided below, although I'm not opposed to anyone offering something better. Date: Committee Name: Chairperson Name: Committee Members Names: Account of Developments: Accomplishments Based on Specific Goals and Plans from Last Month: Wins - Opportunities - Loses - Specific Goals for Coming Month: Specific Plans to Achieve Those Stated Goals: The purpose of this initiative is to improve SCC communications and create a synergy of Committees, and stir up activity among our State. I'm personally hopeful that each of the LPL Committee Officers, and LPL SCC Executive Officers, along with our Executive Director, will make an unwavering commitment to being present for the monthly SPS meeting currently being hosted for our benefit, and to sending in their respective Committee updates. The next scheduled teleconference meeting is on Wednesday, May 29th, 2013 and starts at 7:00 PM, if you haven't received an invitation with all the call details let me know and I'll resend it to you, otherwise you will find the call details for the next two months listed below. ******************************************************************* Subject: Libertarian Party of Louisiana Strategic Planning Meeting Comments/Agenda: Invited are all State Central Committee Chairs, their respective committee members, and all PEC Committee Chairs, and their members. Date: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 Start Time: 07:00 PM Central Daylight Time End Time: 10:55 PM Central Daylight Time Dial-in Number: 1-857-232-0300 (East Coast) Participant Access Code: 4113171 ******************************************************************** Subject: Libertarian Party of Louisiana Strategic Planning Meeting Comments/Agenda: Invited are all State Central Committee Chairs, their respective committee members, and all PEC Committee Chairs, and their members. Date: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 Start Time: 07:00 PM Central Daylight Time End Time: 10:55 PM Central Daylight Time Dial-in Number: 1-857-232-0300 (East Coast) Participant Access Code: 4113171 I'm looking forward to seeing the first monthly updates/reports from all our Committees, and hearing from each of you on our next call. The all the talk about 2nd Amendment rights, and so on, there's lots of low hanging fruit for the LPL to recruit, and the many possibilities and opportunities we have in front of us are invigorating. Your brother in liberty, James Madison State Vice Chairman Email: Vice-Chairman at LPLouisiana.org Phone: 985.640.0718 Libertarian Party of Louisiana Platform http://louisianalibertarian.net/issues/platform.php -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 8297 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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James Madison State Vice Chairman Email: Vice-Chairman at LPLouisiana.org Phone: 985.640.0718 Libertarian Party of Louisiana Platform http://louisianalibertarian.net/issues/platform.php From: James Madison [mailto:vice-chairman at lplouisiana.org] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 3:05 PM To: LPL State Central Committee (SCC at LPLouisiana.org) Cc: Scott A. Lewis III (paladinforthepeople at gmail.com); Wendy Adams (Wendyaadams at gmail.com); Daniel Hayes (Lordgreystoke422 at aol.com) Subject: RE: Monthly Updates and Teleconferences Sorry about the email address mess up. James Madison State Vice Chairman Email: Vice-Chairman at LPLouisiana.org Phone: 985.640.0718 Libertarian Party of Louisiana Platform http://louisianalibertarian.net/issues/platform.php From: James Madison [mailto:vice-chairman at lplouisiana.org] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 12:27 PM To: State Central Committee SCC at Louisiana.org Cc: Scott A. Lewis III (paladinforthepeople at gmail.com); Wendy Adams (Wendyaadams at gmail.com); Daniel Hayes (Lordgreystoke422 at aol.com) Subject: Monthly Updates and Teleconferences Dear SCC Committee Chairpersons Just as any association, we, the LPL SCC, will benefit greatly by continually performing self-examinations regarding all operational functions, and adopting best practices when gaps are identified. Along that line of thought, I've done some self-analysis regarding my own responsibilities and put together a communications protocol, based on the "By-laws" and "Special Rules of Order." that I've included for your reading below, that I truly believe will improve our internal communications, and at the same time satisfy the Committee reporting needs. By-laws of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana ARTICLE 9: SUPPORTING COMMITTEES 6. There is hereby created a Strategic Planning Subcommittee. It is the responsibility of this committee to prepare Action Plans with assigned responsibilities and firm dates of action and completion designed to carry out the Purposes of the Party as outlined in Article 4 of these By-Laws. They shall be composed of: a. The Party Vice-Chairman, who shall serve as chairman of this subcommittee and preside at all of its meetings; and b. The At Large State Central Committee Members who serve as Chairmen of the various other Supporting Committees. Special Rules of Order of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana RULE 7: STATE CENTRAL COMMITTEE 7. Reports from State Central Committee members shall be submitted in advance of the meeting as the chair of the meeting shall so request. What I'm proposing is that we combine the monthly Committee Chairperson reporting needs with the monthly SPS (Strategic Planning Subcommittee) telephone conference meetings. With Committee Chairpersons geographically spread out across our great State, I believe this monthly vehicle of exchange would more effectively and accurately facilitate the dissemination of SCC business communications. Prior to, on the Monday before, the monthly SPS conference call, each of the respective At Large Chairpersons of every SCC Committee (Communications Officer, Finance Officer, Membership Officer, Elections Officer, Economic Development Officer) would email a brief written update of their individual Committees activities to the Vice Chairman, who will in turn combine into a monthly communications report and deliver, prior to the SPS meeting, to all SCC Officers, Parish Representatives, and At Large Committee members. To simplify reporting, and create uniformity in format, I'm suggesting we utilize the format provided below, although I'm not opposed to anyone offering something better. Date: Committee Name: Chairperson Name: Committee Members Names: Account of Developments: Accomplishments Based on Specific Goals and Plans from Last Month: Wins - Opportunities - Loses - Specific Goals for Coming Month: Specific Plans to Achieve Those Stated Goals: The purpose of this initiative is to improve SCC communications and create a synergy of Committees, and stir up activity among our State. I'm personally hopeful that each of the LPL Committee Officers, and LPL SCC Executive Officers, along with our Executive Director, will make an unwavering commitment to being present for the monthly SPS meeting currently being hosted for our benefit, and to sending in their respective Committee updates. The next scheduled teleconference meeting is on Wednesday, May 29th, 2013 and starts at 7:00 PM, if you haven't received an invitation with all the call details let me know and I'll resend it to you, otherwise you will find the call details for the next two months listed below. ******************************************************************* Subject: Libertarian Party of Louisiana Strategic Planning Meeting Comments/Agenda: Invited are all State Central Committee Chairs, their respective committee members, and all PEC Committee Chairs, and their members. Date: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 Start Time: 07:00 PM Central Daylight Time End Time: 10:55 PM Central Daylight Time Dial-in Number: 1-857-232-0300 (East Coast) Participant Access Code: 4113171 ******************************************************************** Subject: Libertarian Party of Louisiana Strategic Planning Meeting Comments/Agenda: Invited are all State Central Committee Chairs, their respective committee members, and all PEC Committee Chairs, and their members. Date: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 Start Time: 07:00 PM Central Daylight Time End Time: 10:55 PM Central Daylight Time Dial-in Number: 1-857-232-0300 (East Coast) Participant Access Code: 4113171 I'm looking forward to seeing the first monthly updates/reports from all our Committees, and hearing from each of you on our next call. The all the talk about 2nd Amendment rights, and so on, there's lots of low hanging fruit for the LPL to recruit, and the many possibilities and opportunities we have in front of us are invigorating. Your brother in liberty, James Madison State Vice Chairman Email: Vice-Chairman at LPLouisiana.org Phone: 985.640.0718 Libertarian Party of Louisiana Platform http://louisianalibertarian.net/issues/platform.php -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 8297 bytes Desc: not available URL: From media at lplouisiana.org Tue May 28 15:11:46 2013 From: media at lplouisiana.org (Keith Thompson) Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 15:11:46 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Monthly Updates and Teleconferences In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <24a7c551f75c81612798d2fb057f86e8@lplouisiana.org> I'll be attending as well. Also, attached is my report for tomorrow's meeting. Sorry - my brain was off for memorial day and thought that yesterday was Sunday. KEITH THOMPSON _Communications Officer_ Libertarian Party of Louisiana media at lplouisiana.org LPLouisiana.org [4] On 2013-05-28 11:59, James Madison wrote: > Just a reminder, we have a call tomorrow at 7:00 PM, and reports should have already been sent in. > > Please RSVP so we know who is going to be on the call. > > JAMES MADISON > > STATE VICE CHAIRMAN > > Email: Vice-Chairman at LPLouisiana.org > > PHONE: 985.640.0718 > > LIBERTARIAN PARTY OF LOUISIANA PLATFORM http://louisianalibertarian.net/issues/platform.php [2] > > [3] > > FROM: James Madison [mailto:vice-chairman at lplouisiana.org] > SENT: Thursday, May 16, 2013 3:05 PM > TO: LPL State Central Committee (SCC at LPLouisiana.org) > CC: Scott A. Lewis III (paladinforthepeople at gmail.com); Wendy Adams (Wendyaadams at gmail.com); Daniel Hayes (Lordgreystoke422 at aol.com) > SUBJECT: RE: Monthly Updates and Teleconferences > > Sorry about the email address mess up. > > JAMES MADISON > > STATE VICE CHAIRMAN > > Email: Vice-Chairman at LPLouisiana.org > > PHONE: 985.640.0718 > > LIBERTARIAN PARTY OF LOUISIANA PLATFORM http://louisianalibertarian.net/issues/platform.php [2] > > [3] > > FROM: James Madison [mailto:vice-chairman at lplouisiana.org] > SENT: Thursday, May 16, 2013 12:27 PM > TO: State Central Committee SCC at Louisiana.org > CC: Scott A. Lewis III (paladinforthepeople at gmail.com); Wendy Adams (Wendyaadams at gmail.com); Daniel Hayes (Lordgreystoke422 at aol.com) > SUBJECT: Monthly Updates and Teleconferences > > Dear SCC Committee Chairpersons > > Just as any association, we, the LPL SCC, will benefit greatly by continually performing self-examinations regarding all operational functions, and adopting best practices when gaps are identified. Along that line of thought, I've done some self-analysis regarding my own responsibilities and put together a communications protocol, based on the "By-laws" and "Special Rules of Order?" that I've included for your reading below, that I truly believe will improve our internal communications, and at the same time satisfy the Committee reporting needs. > > BY-LAWS OF THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY OF LOUISIANA > > ARTICLE 9: SUPPORTING COMMITTEES > > _6. THERE IS HEREBY CREATED A STRATEGIC PLANNING SUBCOMMITTEE. IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THIS COMMITTEE TO PREPARE ACTION PLANS WITH ASSIGNED RESPONSIBILITIES AND FIRM DATES OF ACTION AND COMPLETION DESIGNED TO CARRY OUT THE PURPOSES OF THE PARTY AS OUTLINED IN ARTICLE 4 OF THESE BY-LAWS. THEY SHALL BE COMPOSED OF: A. THE PARTY VICE-CHAIRMAN, WHO SHALL SERVE AS CHAIRMAN OF THIS SUBCOMMITTEE AND PRESIDE AT ALL OF ITS MEETINGS; AND B. THE AT LARGE STATE CENTRAL COMMITTEE MEMBERS WHO SERVE AS CHAIRMEN OF THE VARIOUS OTHER SUPPORTING COMMITTEES._ > > SPECIAL RULES OF ORDER OF THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY OF > > LOUISIANA > > RULE 7: STATE CENTRAL COMMITTEE > > _7. REPORTS FROM STATE CENTRAL COMMITTEE MEMBERS SHALL BE SUBMITTED IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING AS THE CHAIR OF THE MEETING SHALL SO REQUEST._ > > What I'm proposing is that we combine the monthly Committee Chairperson reporting needs with the monthly SPS (Strategic Planning Subcommittee) telephone conference meetings. With Committee Chairpersons geographically spread out across our great State, I believe this monthly vehicle of exchange would more effectively and accurately facilitate the dissemination of SCC business communications. > > Prior to, on the Monday before, the monthly SPS conference call, each of the respective At Large Chairpersons of every SCC Committee (Communications Officer, Finance Officer, Membership Officer, Elections Officer, Economic Development Officer) would email a brief written update of their individual Committees activities to the Vice Chairman, who will in turn combine into a monthly communications report and deliver, prior to the SPS meeting, to all SCC Officers, Parish Representatives, and At Large Committee members. > > To simplify reporting, and create uniformity in format, I'm suggesting we utilize the format provided below, although I'm not opposed to anyone offering something better. > > DATE: > > COMMITTEE NAME: > > CHAIRPERSON NAME: > > COMMITTEE MEMBERS NAMES: > > ACCOUNT OF DEVELOPMENTS: > > ACCOMPLISHMENTS BASED ON SPECIFIC GOALS AND PLANS FROM LAST MONTH: > > ??????????? WINS ? > > ??????????? OPPORTUNITIES ? > > ??????????? LOSES ? > > ? > > SPECIFIC GOALS FOR COMING MONTH: > > SPECIFIC PLANS TO ACHIEVE THOSE STATED GOALS: > > ? > > The purpose of this initiative is to improve SCC communications and create a synergy of Committees, and stir up activity among our State. I'm personally hopeful that each of the LPL Committee Officers, and LPL SCC Executive Officers, along with our Executive Director, will make an unwavering commitment to being present for the monthly SPS meeting currently being hosted for our benefit, and to sending in their respective Committee updates. > > The next scheduled teleconference meeting is on Wednesday, May 29th, 2013 and starts at 7:00 PM, if you haven't received an invitation with all the call details let me know and I'll resend it to you, otherwise you will find the call details for the next two months listed below. > > ******************************************************************* > > SUBJECT: > > Libertarian Party of Louisiana Strategic Planning Meeting > > COMMENTS/AGENDA: > > Invited are all State Central Committee Chairs, their respective committee members, and all PEC Committee Chairs, and their members. > > DATE: > > Wednesday, May 29, 2013 > > START TIME: > > 07:00 PM Central Daylight Time > > END TIME: > > 10:55 PM Central Daylight Time > > DIAL-IN NUMBER: > > 1-857-232-0300 (East Coast) > > PARTICIPANT ACCESS CODE: > > 4113171 > > ******************************************************************** > > SUBJECT: > > Libertarian Party of Louisiana Strategic Planning Meeting > > COMMENTS/AGENDA: > > Invited are all State Central Committee Chairs, their respective committee members, and all PEC Committee Chairs, and their members. > > DATE: > > Wednesday, June 19, 2013 > > START TIME: > > 07:00 PM Central Daylight Time > > END TIME: > > 10:55 PM Central Daylight Time > > DIAL-IN NUMBER: > > 1-857-232-0300 (East Coast) > > PARTICIPANT ACCESS CODE: > > 4113171 > > I'm looking forward to seeing the first monthly updates/reports from all our Committees, and hearing from each of you on our next call. The all the talk about 2nd Amendment rights, and so on, there's lots of low hanging fruit for the LPL to recruit, and the many possibilities and opportunities we have in front of us are invigorating. > > Your brother in liberty, > > JAMES MADISON > > STATE VICE CHAIRMAN > > Email: Vice-Chairman at LPLouisiana.org > > PHONE: 985.640.0718 > > LIBERTARIAN PARTY OF LOUISIANA PLATFORM http://louisianalibertarian.net/issues/platform.php [2] > > [3] > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] -- ? Links: ------ [1] http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [2] http://louisianalibertarian.net/issues/platform.php [3] http://louisianalibertarian.net/ [4] http://www.lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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So related to this question, what kind of report were we thinking was needed? --------------------------- Howard Kearney Membership From: SCC [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of James Madison Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 11:59 AM To: LPL State Central Committee Cc: Scott A. Lewis III; Wendy Adams; Daniel Hayes Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Monthly Updates and Teleconferences Importance: High Just a reminder, we have a call tomorrow at 7:00 PM, and reports should have already been sent in. Please RSVP so we know who is going to be on the call. James Madison State Vice Chairman Email: Vice-Chairman at LPLouisiana.org Phone: 985.640.0718 Libertarian Party of Louisiana Platform http://louisianalibertarian.net/issues/platform.php From: James Madison [mailto:vice-chairman at lplouisiana.org] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 3:05 PM To: LPL State Central Committee (SCC at LPLouisiana.org) Cc: Scott A. Lewis III (paladinforthepeople at gmail.com); Wendy Adams (Wendyaadams at gmail.com); Daniel Hayes (Lordgreystoke422 at aol.com) Subject: RE: Monthly Updates and Teleconferences Sorry about the email address mess up. James Madison State Vice Chairman Email: Vice-Chairman at LPLouisiana.org Phone: 985.640.0718 Libertarian Party of Louisiana Platform http://louisianalibertarian.net/issues/platform.php From: James Madison [mailto:vice-chairman at lplouisiana.org] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 12:27 PM To: State Central Committee SCC at Louisiana.org Cc: Scott A. Lewis III (paladinforthepeople at gmail.com); Wendy Adams (Wendyaadams at gmail.com); Daniel Hayes (Lordgreystoke422 at aol.com) Subject: Monthly Updates and Teleconferences Dear SCC Committee Chairpersons Just as any association, we, the LPL SCC, will benefit greatly by continually performing self-examinations regarding all operational functions, and adopting best practices when gaps are identified. Along that line of thought, I've done some self-analysis regarding my own responsibilities and put together a communications protocol, based on the "By-laws" and "Special Rules of Order." that I've included for your reading below, that I truly believe will improve our internal communications, and at the same time satisfy the Committee reporting needs. By-laws of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana ARTICLE 9: SUPPORTING COMMITTEES 6. There is hereby created a Strategic Planning Subcommittee. It is the responsibility of this committee to prepare Action Plans with assigned responsibilities and firm dates of action and completion designed to carry out the Purposes of the Party as outlined in Article 4 of these By-Laws. They shall be composed of: a. The Party Vice-Chairman, who shall serve as chairman of this subcommittee and preside at all of its meetings; and b. The At Large State Central Committee Members who serve as Chairmen of the various other Supporting Committees. Special Rules of Order of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana RULE 7: STATE CENTRAL COMMITTEE 7. Reports from State Central Committee members shall be submitted in advance of the meeting as the chair of the meeting shall so request. What I'm proposing is that we combine the monthly Committee Chairperson reporting needs with the monthly SPS (Strategic Planning Subcommittee) telephone conference meetings. With Committee Chairpersons geographically spread out across our great State, I believe this monthly vehicle of exchange would more effectively and accurately facilitate the dissemination of SCC business communications. Prior to, on the Monday before, the monthly SPS conference call, each of the respective At Large Chairpersons of every SCC Committee (Communications Officer, Finance Officer, Membership Officer, Elections Officer, Economic Development Officer) would email a brief written update of their individual Committees activities to the Vice Chairman, who will in turn combine into a monthly communications report and deliver, prior to the SPS meeting, to all SCC Officers, Parish Representatives, and At Large Committee members. To simplify reporting, and create uniformity in format, I'm suggesting we utilize the format provided below, although I'm not opposed to anyone offering something better. Date: Committee Name: Chairperson Name: Committee Members Names: Account of Developments: Accomplishments Based on Specific Goals and Plans from Last Month: Wins - Opportunities - Loses - Specific Goals for Coming Month: Specific Plans to Achieve Those Stated Goals: The purpose of this initiative is to improve SCC communications and create a synergy of Committees, and stir up activity among our State. I'm personally hopeful that each of the LPL Committee Officers, and LPL SCC Executive Officers, along with our Executive Director, will make an unwavering commitment to being present for the monthly SPS meeting currently being hosted for our benefit, and to sending in their respective Committee updates. The next scheduled teleconference meeting is on Wednesday, May 29th, 2013 and starts at 7:00 PM, if you haven't received an invitation with all the call details let me know and I'll resend it to you, otherwise you will find the call details for the next two months listed below. ******************************************************************* Subject: Libertarian Party of Louisiana Strategic Planning Meeting Comments/Agenda: Invited are all State Central Committee Chairs, their respective committee members, and all PEC Committee Chairs, and their members. Date: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 Start Time: 07:00 PM Central Daylight Time End Time: 10:55 PM Central Daylight Time Dial-in Number: 1-857-232-0300 (East Coast) Participant Access Code: 4113171 ******************************************************************** Subject: Libertarian Party of Louisiana Strategic Planning Meeting Comments/Agenda: Invited are all State Central Committee Chairs, their respective committee members, and all PEC Committee Chairs, and their members. Date: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 Start Time: 07:00 PM Central Daylight Time End Time: 10:55 PM Central Daylight Time Dial-in Number: 1-857-232-0300 (East Coast) Participant Access Code: 4113171 I'm looking forward to seeing the first monthly updates/reports from all our Committees, and hearing from each of you on our next call. The all the talk about 2nd Amendment rights, and so on, there's lots of low hanging fruit for the LPL to recruit, and the many possibilities and opportunities we have in front of us are invigorating. Your brother in liberty, James Madison State Vice Chairman Email: Vice-Chairman at LPLouisiana.org Phone: 985.640.0718 Libertarian Party of Louisiana Platform http://louisianalibertarian.net/issues/platform.php -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 8297 bytes Desc: not available URL: From vice-chairman at lplouisiana.org Tue May 28 18:00:53 2013 From: vice-chairman at lplouisiana.org (James Madison) Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 18:00:53 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Monthly Updates and Teleconferences In-Reply-To: <004401ce5be6$15cb1700$41614500$@org> References: <004401ce5be6$15cb1700$41614500$@org> Message-ID: <008b01ce5bf7$34b7bef0$9e273cd0$@lplouisiana.org> It is the Strategic Planning meeting, and the reports are just a brief outline, as indicated in the original email. This reporting is meant to assist us in keeping up with each other, and allowing us to offer help to those that would need it. Date: Committee Name: Chairperson Name: Committee Members Names: Account of Developments: Accomplishments Based on Specific Goals and Plans from Last Month: Wins - Opportunities - Loses - Specific Goals for Coming Month: Specific Plans to Achieve Those Stated Goals: James Madison State Vice Chairman Email: Vice-Chairman at LPLouisiana.org Phone: 985.640.0718 Libertarian Party of Louisiana Platform http://louisianalibertarian.net/issues/platform.php From: SCC [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of Howard Kearney Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 3:58 PM To: 'Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors' Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Monthly Updates and Teleconferences James; has this meeting morphed into a Monthly SCC meeting or is it still a Strategy meeting. So related to this question, what kind of report were we thinking was needed? --------------------------- Howard Kearney Membership From: SCC [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of James Madison Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 11:59 AM To: LPL State Central Committee Cc: Scott A. Lewis III; Wendy Adams; Daniel Hayes Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Monthly Updates and Teleconferences Importance: High Just a reminder, we have a call tomorrow at 7:00 PM, and reports should have already been sent in. Please RSVP so we know who is going to be on the call. James Madison State Vice Chairman Email: Vice-Chairman at LPLouisiana.org Phone: 985.640.0718 Libertarian Party of Louisiana Platform http://louisianalibertarian.net/issues/platform.php From: James Madison [mailto:vice-chairman at lplouisiana.org] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 3:05 PM To: LPL State Central Committee (SCC at LPLouisiana.org) Cc: Scott A. Lewis III (paladinforthepeople at gmail.com); Wendy Adams (Wendyaadams at gmail.com); Daniel Hayes (Lordgreystoke422 at aol.com) Subject: RE: Monthly Updates and Teleconferences Sorry about the email address mess up. James Madison State Vice Chairman Email: Vice-Chairman at LPLouisiana.org Phone: 985.640.0718 Libertarian Party of Louisiana Platform http://louisianalibertarian.net/issues/platform.php From: James Madison [mailto:vice-chairman at lplouisiana.org] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 12:27 PM To: State Central Committee SCC at Louisiana.org Cc: Scott A. Lewis III (paladinforthepeople at gmail.com); Wendy Adams (Wendyaadams at gmail.com); Daniel Hayes (Lordgreystoke422 at aol.com) Subject: Monthly Updates and Teleconferences Dear SCC Committee Chairpersons Just as any association, we, the LPL SCC, will benefit greatly by continually performing self-examinations regarding all operational functions, and adopting best practices when gaps are identified. Along that line of thought, I've done some self-analysis regarding my own responsibilities and put together a communications protocol, based on the "By-laws" and "Special Rules of Order." that I've included for your reading below, that I truly believe will improve our internal communications, and at the same time satisfy the Committee reporting needs. By-laws of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana ARTICLE 9: SUPPORTING COMMITTEES 6. There is hereby created a Strategic Planning Subcommittee. It is the responsibility of this committee to prepare Action Plans with assigned responsibilities and firm dates of action and completion designed to carry out the Purposes of the Party as outlined in Article 4 of these By-Laws. They shall be composed of: a. The Party Vice-Chairman, who shall serve as chairman of this subcommittee and preside at all of its meetings; and b. The At Large State Central Committee Members who serve as Chairmen of the various other Supporting Committees. Special Rules of Order of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana RULE 7: STATE CENTRAL COMMITTEE 7. Reports from State Central Committee members shall be submitted in advance of the meeting as the chair of the meeting shall so request. What I'm proposing is that we combine the monthly Committee Chairperson reporting needs with the monthly SPS (Strategic Planning Subcommittee) telephone conference meetings. With Committee Chairpersons geographically spread out across our great State, I believe this monthly vehicle of exchange would more effectively and accurately facilitate the dissemination of SCC business communications. Prior to, on the Monday before, the monthly SPS conference call, each of the respective At Large Chairpersons of every SCC Committee (Communications Officer, Finance Officer, Membership Officer, Elections Officer, Economic Development Officer) would email a brief written update of their individual Committees activities to the Vice Chairman, who will in turn combine into a monthly communications report and deliver, prior to the SPS meeting, to all SCC Officers, Parish Representatives, and At Large Committee members. To simplify reporting, and create uniformity in format, I'm suggesting we utilize the format provided below, although I'm not opposed to anyone offering something better. Date: Committee Name: Chairperson Name: Committee Members Names: Account of Developments: Accomplishments Based on Specific Goals and Plans from Last Month: Wins - Opportunities - Loses - Specific Goals for Coming Month: Specific Plans to Achieve Those Stated Goals: The purpose of this initiative is to improve SCC communications and create a synergy of Committees, and stir up activity among our State. I'm personally hopeful that each of the LPL Committee Officers, and LPL SCC Executive Officers, along with our Executive Director, will make an unwavering commitment to being present for the monthly SPS meeting currently being hosted for our benefit, and to sending in their respective Committee updates. The next scheduled teleconference meeting is on Wednesday, May 29th, 2013 and starts at 7:00 PM, if you haven't received an invitation with all the call details let me know and I'll resend it to you, otherwise you will find the call details for the next two months listed below. ******************************************************************* Subject: Libertarian Party of Louisiana Strategic Planning Meeting Comments/Agenda: Invited are all State Central Committee Chairs, their respective committee members, and all PEC Committee Chairs, and their members. Date: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 Start Time: 07:00 PM Central Daylight Time End Time: 10:55 PM Central Daylight Time Dial-in Number: 1-857-232-0300 (East Coast) Participant Access Code: 4113171 ******************************************************************** Subject: Libertarian Party of Louisiana Strategic Planning Meeting Comments/Agenda: Invited are all State Central Committee Chairs, their respective committee members, and all PEC Committee Chairs, and their members. Date: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 Start Time: 07:00 PM Central Daylight Time End Time: 10:55 PM Central Daylight Time Dial-in Number: 1-857-232-0300 (East Coast) Participant Access Code: 4113171 I'm looking forward to seeing the first monthly updates/reports from all our Committees, and hearing from each of you on our next call. The all the talk about 2nd Amendment rights, and so on, there's lots of low hanging fruit for the LPL to recruit, and the many possibilities and opportunities we have in front of us are invigorating. Your brother in liberty, James Madison State Vice Chairman Email: Vice-Chairman at LPLouisiana.org Phone: 985.640.0718 Libertarian Party of Louisiana Platform http://louisianalibertarian.net/issues/platform.php -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 8297 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 8303 bytes Desc: not available URL: From boydw.smith at yahoo.com Tue May 28 18:59:57 2013 From: boydw.smith at yahoo.com (Boyd Smith) Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 16:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Monthly Updates and Teleconferences In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1369785597.71065.YahooMailNeo@web161905.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> From: James Madison To: LPL State Central Committee Cc: Scott A. Lewis III ; Wendy Adams ; Daniel Hayes Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 11:59 AM Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Monthly Updates and Teleconferences Just a reminder, we have a call tomorrow at 7:00 PM, and reports should have already been sent in. ? Please RSVP so we know who is going to be on the call. ? James Madison State Vice Chairman Email: Vice-Chairman at LPLouisiana.org Phone: 985.640.0718 ? Libertarian Party of Louisiana Platformhttp://louisianalibertarian.net/issues/platform.php ? ? From:James Madison [mailto:vice-chairman at lplouisiana.org] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 3:05 PM To: LPL State Central Committee (SCC at LPLouisiana.org) Cc: Scott A. Lewis III (paladinforthepeople at gmail.com); Wendy Adams (Wendyaadams at gmail.com); Daniel Hayes (Lordgreystoke422 at aol.com) Subject: RE: Monthly Updates and Teleconferences ? Sorry about the email address mess up. ? James Madison State Vice Chairman Email: Vice-Chairman at LPLouisiana.org Phone: 985.640.0718 ? Libertarian Party of Louisiana Platformhttp://louisianalibertarian.net/issues/platform.php ? ? From:James Madison [mailto:vice-chairman at lplouisiana.org] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 12:27 PM To: State Central Committee SCC at Louisiana.org Cc: Scott A. Lewis III (paladinforthepeople at gmail.com); Wendy Adams (Wendyaadams at gmail.com); Daniel Hayes (Lordgreystoke422 at aol.com) Subject: Monthly Updates and Teleconferences ? Dear SCC Committee Chairpersons ? Just as any association, we, the LPL SCC, will benefit greatly by continually performing self-examinations regarding all operational functions, and adopting best practices when gaps are identified.? Along that line of thought, I?ve done some self-analysis regarding my own responsibilities and put together a communications protocol, based on the ?By-laws? and ?Special Rules of Order?? that I?ve included for your reading below, that I truly believe will improve our internal communications, and at the same time satisfy the Committee reporting needs. ? By-laws of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana ARTICLE 9: SUPPORTING COMMITTEES 6. There is hereby created a Strategic Planning Subcommittee. It is the responsibility of this committee to prepare Action Plans with assigned responsibilities and firm dates of action and completion designed to carry out the Purposes of the Party as outlined in Article 4 of these By-Laws. They shall be composed of: a. The Party Vice-Chairman, who shall serve as chairman of this subcommittee and preside at all of its meetings; and b. The At Large State Central Committee Members who serve as Chairmen of the various other Supporting Committees. ? Special Rules of Order of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana RULE 7: STATE CENTRAL COMMITTEE 7. Reports from State Central Committee members shall be submitted in advance of the meeting as the chair of the meeting shall so request. ? What I?m proposing is that we combine the monthly Committee Chairperson reporting needs with the monthly SPS (Strategic Planning Subcommittee) telephone conference meetings. With Committee Chairpersons geographically spread out across our great State, I believe this monthly vehicle of exchange would more effectively and accurately facilitate the dissemination of SCC business communications. ? Prior to, on the Monday before, the monthly SPS conference call, each of the respective At Large Chairpersons of every SCC Committee (Communications Officer, Finance Officer, Membership Officer, Elections Officer, Economic Development Officer) would email a brief written update of their individual Committees activities to the Vice Chairman, who will in turn combine into a monthly communications report and deliver, prior to the SPS meeting, to all SCC Officers, Parish Representatives, and At Large Committee members. ? To simplify reporting, and create uniformity in format, I?m suggesting we utilize the format provided below, although I?m not opposed to anyone offering something better. ? Date: Committee Name: Chairperson Name: Committee Members Names: Account of Developments: Accomplishments Based on Specific Goals and Plans from Last Month: ??????????? Wins ? ??????????? Opportunities ? ??????????? Loses ? ? Specific Goals for Coming Month: Specific Plans to Achieve Those Stated Goals: ? The purpose of this initiative is to improve SCC communications and create a synergy of Committees, and stir up activity among our State.? I?m personally hopeful that each of the LPL Committee Officers, and LPL SCC Executive Officers, along with our Executive Director, will make an unwavering commitment to being present for the monthly SPS meeting currently being hosted for our benefit, and to sending in their respective Committee updates.? ? The next scheduled teleconference meeting is on Wednesday, May 29th, 2013 and starts at 7:00 PM, if you haven?t received an invitation with all the call details let me know and I?ll resend it to you, otherwise you will find the call details for the next two months listed below. ? ******************************************************************* ? Subject: Libertarian Party of Louisiana Strategic Planning Meeting Comments/Agenda: Invited are all State Central Committee Chairs, their respective committee members, and all PEC Committee Chairs, and their members. Date: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 Start Time: 07:00 PM?Central Daylight Time End Time: 10:55 PM?Central Daylight Time Dial-in Number: 1-857-232-0300?(East Coast) Participant Access Code: 4113171 ******************************************************************** ? Subject: Libertarian Party of Louisiana Strategic Planning Meeting Comments/Agenda: Invited are all State Central Committee Chairs, their respective committee members, and all PEC Committee Chairs, and their members. Date: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 Start Time: 07:00 PM?Central Daylight Time End Time: 10:55 PM?Central Daylight Time Dial-in Number: 1-857-232-0300?(East Coast) Participant Access Code: 4113171 I?m looking forward to seeing the first monthly updates/reports from all our Committees, and hearing from each of you on our next call.? The all the talk about 2nd Amendment rights, and so on, there?s lots of low hanging fruit for the LPL to recruit, and the many possibilities and opportunities we have in front of us are invigorating. ? Your brother in liberty, ? ? James Madison State Vice Chairman Email: Vice-Chairman at LPLouisiana.org Phone: 985.640.0718 ? Libertarian Party of Louisiana Platformhttp://louisianalibertarian.net/issues/platform.php ? ?_______________________________________________SCC mailing listSCC at lplouisiana.orghttp://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Lewis III; Wendy Adams; Daniel Hayes Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Monthly Updates and Teleconferences From: James Madison To: LPL State Central Committee Cc: Scott A. Lewis III ; Wendy Adams ; Daniel Hayes Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 11:59 AM Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Monthly Updates and Teleconferences Just a reminder, we have a call tomorrow at 7:00 PM, and reports should have already been sent in. Please RSVP so we know who is going to be on the call. James Madison State Vice Chairman Email: Vice-Chairman at LPLouisiana.org Phone: 985.640.0718 Libertarian Party of Louisiana Platform http://louisianalibertarian.net/issues/platform.php From: James Madison [mailto:vice-chairman at lplouisiana.org] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 3:05 PM To: LPL State Central Committee (SCC at LPLouisiana.org) Cc: Scott A. Lewis III (paladinforthepeople at gmail.com); Wendy Adams (Wendyaadams at gmail.com); Daniel Hayes (Lordgreystoke422 at aol.com) Subject: RE: Monthly Updates and Teleconferences Sorry about the email address mess up. James Madison State Vice Chairman Email: Vice-Chairman at LPLouisiana.org Phone: 985.640.0718 Libertarian Party of Louisiana Platform http://louisianalibertarian.net/issues/platform.php From: James Madison [mailto:vice-chairman at lplouisiana.org] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 12:27 PM To: State Central Committee SCC at Louisiana.org Cc: Scott A. Lewis III (paladinforthepeople at gmail.com); Wendy Adams (Wendyaadams at gmail.com); Daniel Hayes (Lordgreystoke422 at aol.com) Subject: Monthly Updates and Teleconferences Dear SCC Committee Chairpersons Just as any association, we, the LPL SCC, will benefit greatly by continually performing self-examinations regarding all operational functions, and adopting best practices when gaps are identified. Along that line of thought, I?ve done some self-analysis regarding my own responsibilities and put together a communications protocol, based on the ?By-laws? and ?Special Rules of Order?? that I?ve included for your reading below, that I truly believe will improve our internal communications, and at the same time satisfy the Committee reporting needs. By-laws of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana ARTICLE 9: SUPPORTING COMMITTEES 6. There is hereby created a Strategic Planning Subcommittee. It is the responsibility of this committee to prepare Action Plans with assigned responsibilities and firm dates of action and completion designed to carry out the Purposes of the Party as outlined in Article 4 of these By-Laws. They shall be composed of: a. The Party Vice-Chairman, who shall serve as chairman of this subcommittee and preside at all of its meetings; and b. The At Large State Central Committee Members who serve as Chairmen of the various other Supporting Committees. Special Rules of Order of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana RULE 7: STATE CENTRAL COMMITTEE 7. Reports from State Central Committee members shall be submitted in advance of the meeting as the chair of the meeting shall so request. What I?m proposing is that we combine the monthly Committee Chairperson reporting needs with the monthly SPS (Strategic Planning Subcommittee) telephone conference meetings. With Committee Chairpersons geographically spread out across our great State, I believe this monthly vehicle of exchange would more effectively and accurately facilitate the dissemination of SCC business communications. Prior to, on the Monday before, the monthly SPS conference call, each of the respective At Large Chairpersons of every SCC Committee (Communications Officer, Finance Officer, Membership Officer, Elections Officer, Economic Development Officer) would email a brief written update of their individual Committees activities to the Vice Chairman, who will in turn combine into a monthly communications report and deliver, prior to the SPS meeting, to all SCC Officers, Parish Representatives, and At Large Committee members. To simplify reporting, and create uniformity in format, I?m suggesting we utilize the format provided below, although I?m not opposed to anyone offering something better. Date: Committee Name: Chairperson Name: Committee Members Names: Account of Developments: Accomplishments Based on Specific Goals and Plans from Last Month: Wins ? Opportunities ? Loses ? Specific Goals for Coming Month: Specific Plans to Achieve Those Stated Goals: The purpose of this initiative is to improve SCC communications and create a synergy of Committees, and stir up activity among our State. I?m personally hopeful that each of the LPL Committee Officers, and LPL SCC Executive Officers, along with our Executive Director, will make an unwavering commitment to being present for the monthly SPS meeting currently being hosted for our benefit, and to sending in their respective Committee updates. The next scheduled teleconference meeting is on Wednesday, May 29th, 2013 and starts at 7:00 PM, if you haven?t received an invitation with all the call details let me know and I?ll resend it to you, otherwise you will find the call details for the next two months listed below. ******************************************************************* Subject: Libertarian Party of Louisiana Strategic Planning Meeting Comments/Agenda: Invited are all State Central Committee Chairs, their respective committee members, and all PEC Committee Chairs, and their members. Date: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 Start Time: 07:00 PM Central Daylight Time End Time: 10:55 PM Central Daylight Time Dial-in Number: 1-857-232-0300 (East Coast) Participant Access Code: 4113171 ******************************************************************** Subject: Libertarian Party of Louisiana Strategic Planning Meeting Comments/Agenda: Invited are all State Central Committee Chairs, their respective committee members, and all PEC Committee Chairs, and their members. Date: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 Start Time: 07:00 PM Central Daylight Time End Time: 10:55 PM Central Daylight Time Dial-in Number: 1-857-232-0300 (East Coast) Participant Access Code: 4113171 I?m looking forward to seeing the first monthly updates/reports from all our Committees, and hearing from each of you on our next call. The all the talk about 2nd Amendment rights, and so on, there?s lots of low hanging fruit for the LPL to recruit, and the many possibilities and opportunities we have in front of us are invigorating. Your brother in liberty, James Madison State Vice Chairman Email: Vice-Chairman at LPLouisiana.org Phone: 985.640.0718 Libertarian Party of Louisiana Platform http://louisianalibertarian.net/issues/platform.php _______________________________________________SCC mailing listSCC at lplouisiana.orghttp://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 8297 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I have the following information as the current teleconference call in number and conference code: Dial-in Number: 1-857-232-0300 (East Coast) Participant Access Code:4113171 T Lee Horne, III Organizer of NAACP Unit 6080, Saint Joseph, LA President of Brumby Enterprises, Inc. 800-746-1705 Former Chairman of Libertarian Party of Louisiana 2009-2012 Former Candidate for Governor of Louisiana ran a 4 year campaign 2003-2007 tleehorneiii at gmail.com 318-542-4445 google voice tleehorneiii skype http://bit.ly/12zAQMS From: SCC [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of James Madison Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 12:59 PM To: LPL State Central Committee Cc: Scott A. Lewis III; Wendy Adams; Daniel Hayes Subject: Re: [LPL Board of Directors] Monthly Updates and Teleconferences Importance: High Just a reminder, we have a call tomorrow at 7:00 PM, and reports should have already been sent in. Please RSVP so we know who is going to be on the call. James Madison State Vice Chairman Email: Vice-Chairman at LPLouisiana.org Phone: 985.640.0718 Libertarian Party of Louisiana Platform http://louisianalibertarian.net/issues/platform.php From: James Madison [mailto:vice-chairman at lplouisiana.org] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 3:05 PM To: LPL State Central Committee (SCC at LPLouisiana.org) Cc: Scott A. Lewis III (paladinforthepeople at gmail.com); Wendy Adams (Wendyaadams at gmail.com); Daniel Hayes (Lordgreystoke422 at aol.com) Subject: RE: Monthly Updates and Teleconferences Sorry about the email address mess up. James Madison State Vice Chairman Email: Vice-Chairman at LPLouisiana.org Phone: 985.640.0718 Libertarian Party of Louisiana Platform http://louisianalibertarian.net/issues/platform.php From: James Madison [mailto:vice-chairman at lplouisiana.org] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 12:27 PM To: State Central Committee SCC at Louisiana.org Cc: Scott A. Lewis III (paladinforthepeople at gmail.com); Wendy Adams (Wendyaadams at gmail.com); Daniel Hayes (Lordgreystoke422 at aol.com) Subject: Monthly Updates and Teleconferences Dear SCC Committee Chairpersons Just as any association, we, the LPL SCC, will benefit greatly by continually performing self-examinations regarding all operational functions, and adopting best practices when gaps are identified. Along that line of thought, I've done some self-analysis regarding my own responsibilities and put together a communications protocol, based on the "By-laws" and "Special Rules of Order." that I've included for your reading below, that I truly believe will improve our internal communications, and at the same time satisfy the Committee reporting needs. By-laws of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana ARTICLE 9: SUPPORTING COMMITTEES 6. There is hereby created a Strategic Planning Subcommittee. It is the responsibility of this committee to prepare Action Plans with assigned responsibilities and firm dates of action and completion designed to carry out the Purposes of the Party as outlined in Article 4 of these By-Laws. They shall be composed of: a. The Party Vice-Chairman, who shall serve as chairman of this subcommittee and preside at all of its meetings; and b. The At Large State Central Committee Members who serve as Chairmen of the various other Supporting Committees. Special Rules of Order of the Libertarian Party of Louisiana RULE 7: STATE CENTRAL COMMITTEE 7. Reports from State Central Committee members shall be submitted in advance of the meeting as the chair of the meeting shall so request. What I'm proposing is that we combine the monthly Committee Chairperson reporting needs with the monthly SPS (Strategic Planning Subcommittee) telephone conference meetings. With Committee Chairpersons geographically spread out across our great State, I believe this monthly vehicle of exchange would more effectively and accurately facilitate the dissemination of SCC business communications. Prior to, on the Monday before, the monthly SPS conference call, each of the respective At Large Chairpersons of every SCC Committee (Communications Officer, Finance Officer, Membership Officer, Elections Officer, Economic Development Officer) would email a brief written update of their individual Committees activities to the Vice Chairman, who will in turn combine into a monthly communications report and deliver, prior to the SPS meeting, to all SCC Officers, Parish Representatives, and At Large Committee members. To simplify reporting, and create uniformity in format, I'm suggesting we utilize the format provided below, although I'm not opposed to anyone offering something better. Date: Committee Name: Chairperson Name: Committee Members Names: Account of Developments: Accomplishments Based on Specific Goals and Plans from Last Month: Wins - Opportunities - Loses - Specific Goals for Coming Month: Specific Plans to Achieve Those Stated Goals: The purpose of this initiative is to improve SCC communications and create a synergy of Committees, and stir up activity among our State. I'm personally hopeful that each of the LPL Committee Officers, and LPL SCC Executive Officers, along with our Executive Director, will make an unwavering commitment to being present for the monthly SPS meeting currently being hosted for our benefit, and to sending in their respective Committee updates. The next scheduled teleconference meeting is on Wednesday, May 29th, 2013 and starts at 7:00 PM, if you haven't received an invitation with all the call details let me know and I'll resend it to you, otherwise you will find the call details for the next two months listed below. ******************************************************************* Subject: Libertarian Party of Louisiana Strategic Planning Meeting Comments/Agenda: Invited are all State Central Committee Chairs, their respective committee members, and all PEC Committee Chairs, and their members. Date: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 Start Time: 07:00 PM Central Daylight Time End Time: 10:55 PM Central Daylight Time Dial-in Number: 1-857-232-0300 (East Coast) Participant Access Code: 4113171 ******************************************************************** Subject: Libertarian Party of Louisiana Strategic Planning Meeting Comments/Agenda: Invited are all State Central Committee Chairs, their respective committee members, and all PEC Committee Chairs, and their members. Date: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 Start Time: 07:00 PM Central Daylight Time End Time: 10:55 PM Central Daylight Time Dial-in Number: 1-857-232-0300 (East Coast) Participant Access Code: 4113171 I'm looking forward to seeing the first monthly updates/reports from all our Committees, and hearing from each of you on our next call. The all the talk about 2nd Amendment rights, and so on, there's lots of low hanging fruit for the LPL to recruit, and the many possibilities and opportunities we have in front of us are invigorating. Your brother in liberty, James Madison State Vice Chairman Email: Vice-Chairman at LPLouisiana.org Phone: 985.640.0718 Libertarian Party of Louisiana Platform http://louisianalibertarian.net/issues/platform.php -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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After his run for Mayor, he wanted to support one of his opponents in the runoff and so, as required by the rules, resigned from the office he held in the party and from the party. I want to encourage him and will be supporting his bid for office. The party rules are clear both at the state and national level. no party officer may hold office and support a candidate who is not a Libertarian. Accordingly, I am resigning my position on the State Central Committee. Sincerely, T Lee Horne, III -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vice-chairman at lplouisiana.org Tue Jun 18 18:22:15 2013 From: vice-chairman at lplouisiana.org (James Madison) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 18:22:15 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Resignation In-Reply-To: <002a01ce6c72$37295410$a57bfc30$@org> References: <1369785597.71065.YahooMailNeo@web161905.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <00a301ce5c01$56667140$033353c0$@lplouisiana.org> <002a01ce6c72$37295410$a57bfc30$@org> Message-ID: <000f01ce6c7a$abd95500$038bff00$@lplouisiana.org> T Lee, While as a Libertarian, and Vice Chairman of the LPL, I accept and respect your decision, that acceptance does not come without some reflection and gratitude for all you?ve done in the past to keep the light of liberty burning in the LPL. Your many years of dedication to the cause have earned you both respect and admiration among so many of us. Best of luck in your future endeavors, and I look forward to our paths crossing again. Live free my friend, James Madison State Vice Chairman Email: Vice-Chairman at LPLouisiana.org Phone: 985.640.0718 Libertarian Party of Louisiana Platform http://louisianalibertarian.net/issues/platform.php From: SCC [mailto:scc-bounces at lplouisiana.org] On Behalf Of T Lee Horne III Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:22 PM To: 'Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors' Cc: 'Scott A. Lewis III'; 'Wendy Adams'; 'Daniel Hayes' Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Resignation There is a candidate for office in Louisiana, Parker Ward. He ran as a Libertarian for mayor of Shreveport several years ago. He is now running for Public Service Commission under another party affiliation. I respect Parker Ward. He has always been upfront with me and played by the rules of the Libertarian Party when he was affiliated with the party. After his run for Mayor, he wanted to support one of his opponents in the runoff and so, as required by the rules, resigned from the office he held in the party and from the party. I want to encourage him and will be supporting his bid for office. The party rules are clear both at the state and national level. no party officer may hold office and support a candidate who is not a Libertarian. Accordingly, I am resigning my position on the State Central Committee. Sincerely, T Lee Horne, III -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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He ran as > a Libertarian for mayor of Shreveport several years ago. He is now > running for Public Service Commission under another party affiliation. > > > > I respect Parker Ward. He has always been upfront with me and played > by the rules of the Libertarian Party when he was affiliated with > the party. After his run for Mayor, he wanted to support one of his > opponents in the runoff and so, as required by the rules, resigned > from the office he held in the party and from the party. I want to > encourage him and will be supporting his bid for office. > > > > The party rules are clear both at the state and national level. no > party officer may hold office and support a candidate who is not a > Libertarian. > > > > Accordingly, I am resigning my position on the State Central Committee. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > T Lee Horne, III > > > > From vice-chairman at lplouisiana.org Wed Jun 19 06:15:54 2013 From: vice-chairman at lplouisiana.org (James Madison) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 06:15:54 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Strategic Planning Meeting for June 2013 Message-ID: <001b01ce6cde$5e09e790$1a1db6b0$@lplouisiana.org> Ladies and Gentleman, Tonight is the Strategic Planning Meeting call at 7:00 PM, please join us on that call and if possible we would greatly appreciate your committee reports being submitted. Live Free, James Madison State Vice Chairman Email: Vice-Chairman at LPLouisiana.org Phone: 985.640.0718 Libertarian Party of Louisiana Platform http://louisianalibertarian.net/issues/platform.php -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 8297 bytes Desc: not available URL: From vice-chairman at lplouisiana.org Wed Jun 19 06:37:11 2013 From: vice-chairman at lplouisiana.org (James Madison) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 06:37:11 -0500 Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Notice of LPL SCC Meeting and Call for Agenda Items Message-ID: <003b01ce6ce1$56d2f3b0$0478db10$@lplouisiana.org> Member of the LPL SCC, We have an LPL SCC quarterly meeting planned for July 13th, 2013 in Lake Charles, LA. We are requesting that any members of the LPL SCC that wish to have an item, especially "new business", placed on the agenda for this meeting submit said items via responding to this email no later than Friday, June 28th, 2013 at 5:00 PM. Committee Chairs please submit your Committee Reports within the same time frame, and be prepared to formally present said reports in person at the LPL SCC meeting. Your cooperation in adhering to this request is appreciated, and will allow us to provide each SCC member with an Agenda containing supporting documents prior to July 13, 2013. James Madison State Vice Chairman Email: Vice-Chairman at LPLouisiana.org Phone: 985.640.0718 Libertarian Party of Louisiana Platform http://louisianalibertarian.net/issues/platform.php -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 8297 bytes Desc: not available URL: From boydw.smith at yahoo.com Wed Jun 19 07:17:19 2013 From: boydw.smith at yahoo.com (Boyd Smith) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 05:17:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Resignation In-Reply-To: <002a01ce6c72$37295410$a57bfc30$@org> References: <1369785597.71065.YahooMailNeo@web161905.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <00a301ce5c01$56667140$033353c0$@lplouisiana.org> <002a01ce6c72$37295410$a57bfc30$@org> Message-ID: <1371644239.86407.YahooMailNeo@web161904.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Did he not concider running as a Libertarian?? That would be something I would like to talk to him about. ? Boyd From: T Lee Horne III To: 'Mailing list for LPL Board of Directors' Cc: 'Scott A. Lewis III' ; 'Wendy Adams' ; 'Daniel Hayes' Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:21 PM Subject: [LPL Board of Directors] Resignation There is a candidate for office in Louisiana, Parker Ward. He ran as a Libertarian for mayor of Shreveport several years ago. He is now running for Public Service Commission under another party affiliation. ? I respect Parker Ward. He has always been upfront with me and played by the rules of the Libertarian Party when he was affiliated with the party. After his run for Mayor, he wanted to support one of his opponents in the runoff and so, as required by the rules, resigned from the office he held in the party and from the party. I want to encourage him and will be supporting his bid for office. ? The party rules are clear both at the state and national level. no party officer may hold office and support a candidate who is not a Libertarian. ? Accordingly, I am resigning my position on the State Central Committee. ? Sincerely, ? 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KEITH THOMPSON _Communications Officer_ Libertarian Party of Louisiana media at lplouisiana.org LPLouisiana.org [4] On 2013-06-19 06:15, James Madison wrote: > Ladies and Gentleman, > > Tonight is the Strategic Planning Meeting call at 7:00 PM, please join us on that call and if possible we would greatly appreciate your committee reports being submitted. > > Live Free, > > JAMES MADISON > > STATE VICE CHAIRMAN > > Email: Vice-Chairman at LPLouisiana.org > > PHONE: 985.640.0718 > > LIBERTARIAN PARTY OF LOUISIANA PLATFORM http://louisianalibertarian.net/issues/platform.php [2] > > [3] > > _______________________________________________ > SCC mailing list > SCC at lplouisiana.org > http://lplouisiana.org/mailman/listinfo/scc_lplouisiana.org [1] -- ? 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